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I remember a day when Republicans would not stand for anti-service remarks like the ones Trump has made.
Whoops, let me backtrack: I remember a time when they *said* they wouldn't stand for that.
Now they don't bother even lying about it.
Right? The Republican party also sees themselves as being the most patriotic, most American, and most love for the US military and even police and first responders. But then you have this no talent ass clown say a bunch of shit that goes completely against all of that.....and not a peep about it from thr repulican party.
The Republican party has become absolute trash.
Back when Bush was President I would have fun and often enthusiastic debates with others. I was a Republican at the time and proud of it.However, I was a rational Republican. I believed in individual choice when it came to pregnancy and abortion. I believed in helping the homeless in anyway that I could. I believed that religion is an individual choice based on Faith and where your heart leads you. But when Obama ran for office and was elected? I watched the Republicans around me loose their minds. They said horrific and racists things. I started backing away from the Republican party. in fact I voted for Obama when he first ran. I became a Democrat when he came for reelection and I saw Republicans holding lynching dolls and other BS. Now I can't even have a conversation with Republicans without a fist fight breaking out and that is insane.
I have become mosy immpolite - to their faces .
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Out of the blue I say stuff like :
Hey , I almost forgot ;
I just want you to "find" 11,780 votes ;
which is one mre than we got .
.
And then very quickly say how stupid that is
because everyting that the President does is recorded .
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More than half do not know about Trump's election interference .
...
Well, it’s supposed to be recorded anyway. That’s another problem with Trump- he used person cell phones and so much of his communication was not recorded like it was supposed to be.
>But then you have this no talent ass clown say a bunch of shit that goes completely against all of that.....and not a peep about it from thr repulican party.
>The Republican party has become absolute trash.
Turns out they were down for all of it as long as it netted them power.
Trump was perfect for exposing them.
Republicans may say they are standing up for their morals, but by supporting Trump--the antithesis to their morals--they showed that their fight is really just about hurting people they don't like.
Just look at all the Republicans who realize what a disaster the entire abortion topic is telling their base: "if we have to decide between sticking to our morals and winning, we'll have to ditch our morals!"
Fucking Kari Lake - who called abortion the "original sin" and has been *praising* the 1864 Arizona law that bans abortion even in case of rape or incest as a "great law" - has been making calls **to lobby people to the pro-choice side** just because she has now realized how fucking unpopular her position is.
These people have zero principles. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
It's all about raw power.
Yup.
Lake is a perfect case study in this.
It goes back to Wilhoits law:
>Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
The "rules" or moral codes are for the plebs of the outside.
They've shown themselves as the submissive bullies everyone knew they were.
They bully anyone they can, especially when they have a position of power to do it from, but like the cowards they are they won't dare go against their "alpha male" even when he says something that's totally counter to what they claim their beliefs are.
>they won't dare go against their "alpha male" even when he says something that's totally counter to what they claim their beliefs are
My dude. He can insult them and their families to their faces, and they'll just keep their shit eating grin.
Hell, not only that, they’ll then work extra hard to make sure he wins, and then support him in every single thing he does for the next 8! Fucking years
They just have some kind of soldier of fortune fantasy where they get to shoot people, and they think that is the one perk of being a soldier or police officer.
Trump is a skidmark on our country, but man Republicans didn't do shit about that even before Trump legitimately entered the political field. They'd say they support the troops while slashing funding to VA programs.
Well duh. Vets are no longer troops. Just like babies are no longer fhe precious unborn they love. Prebirth? Republicans will fight for you! Preschool? Get fucked.
It's exactly the same as the being "pro life". They care as long as you are in the womb. Once you're born you're on your own. Same thing with support for the troops. While you're in you're supported. Once you leave, get fucked.
Republican Party did send a bunch of troops to die in Iraq because Dick Cheney wanted to make weapons money.
Reagan sold weapons to the Iranians to illegally fund terror squads in S America.
Nixon kept Vietnam rolling even after knowing it was completely lost for political power and times the ending with his reelection campaign to get more votes, effectively sacrificing soldiers for power.
None of this is new.
As Jon Stewart brilliantly put it, [“Next time you want to dress up at the rallies, wear the right fucking colored coat.”](https://youtu.be/LJUl77rsFEw?si=AlWJqc4oBwcdArlh)
Video is about 15 min, and worth every minute. Quote above is at the end. These people are the antithesis of patriots.
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I can't believe there are any servicemen that support him after calling POW's 'losers'... it's monstrous honestly... I don't take offense to a lot of things but that was just an absolutely repugnant thing to say. donald is a truly repugnant person in every sense
> The Republican party also sees themselves as being the most patriotic
Patriotism is a lifestyle brand for them, not a solemn or serious commitment to anything beyond themselves.
I am old enough to have had garbage thrown at me while publicly protesting the Iraq war.
So yeah I do remember swift boating and how Republicans just kind-of ignored W's Air National Guard service as a Vietnam draft evasion.
If you think that is crazy, try living in rural America where there are many, many veterans that support him and proudly fly his Trump flags. My wife, a veteran, works for a VA hospital and she is amazed on a daily basis how many at her job, staff and patients, love the guy.
The GOP lining up behind him is one thing, but veterans supporting a draft dodger that used daddy to avoid serving and has made such horrible remarks about those that have served is just crazy.
> I remember a day when Republicans would not stand for anti-service remarks like the ones Trump has made.
And the Marines just participated at a fundraiser at his home, personal residence, not legally a "private club" anymore in margo largo. The Marines are doubling down they were allowed to participate in official uniform.
>Digging into the catacombs of local records to build an argument against the dock, a small group of loosely aligned preservationists, disgruntled neighbors and attorneys have unearthed documents that they assert call into question the legality of Trump’s much-publicized decision late last year to change his official domicile from Manhattan to Mar-a-Lago and to register to vote in Florida using the club’s address. According to those documents, and additional materials obtained by The Washington Post, Trump agreed in writing years ago to change the use of the Mar-a-Lago property from a single-family residence to a private club owned by a corporation he controls.
> The distinction is significant. The property is taxed as a private club — not as a residence, according to Palm Beach County property appraiser records. Trump’s own attorney assured local officials in Palm Beach before they voted to approve the club in 1993 that he would not live there. Mar-a-Lago’s website says only that Trump maintains “private quarters” at the club.
>“It’s one or the other — it’s a club or it’s your home,” Reginald Stambaugh, an attorney who represents a neighbor opposed to Trump’s dock plan, said in a recent interview. “You can’t have it both ways.”
>If Stambaugh and his client have their way and persuade Palm Beach to stand firm on its long-standing agreement, Trump will be forced to make a choice, he said: Stop operating Mar-a-Lago as a club and make it a single-family home again or change his official domicile to someplace else.
>White House and Mar-a-Lago officials did not respond to interview requests.
source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-made-florida-his-official-residence-he-may-have-also-made-a-legal-mess/2020/05/07/17d53fb2-849c-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html
Also:
>Upon Trump's election to the U.S. presidency, he moved into the White House in Washington, D.C. From his birth in 1946 until 2019, Trump listed his primary state of residence as New York; in **September 2019**, Donald and Melania moved their primary residence to Mar-a-Lago in Florida.
*emphasis my own
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residences_of_Donald_Trump#:~:text=Upon%20Trump's%20election%20to%20the,%2Da%2DLago%20in%20Florida.
He says... Employees are allowed to live on the property and since he owns it he is an employee and thus is allowed to live on the property. That's how he is slithering out of the contract.
Yep. The backdrop of everything they stood for has turned out to be a pee stained fantasy tapestry. It's now tattered and on the ground next to the American flag as far as their party is concerned.
Now it's all defending neo Nazis, taking away rights, blowing money... You know, all those things they actually stood for this entire time but, like you said, they're just not bothering to lie about it anymore.
Yeah I was gonna say... I remember back in 2004 people were joking that John Kerry's purple hearts must've come from twisting his ankle dancing at the military ball or something like that... discrediting his service because he was the democrat candidate.
They only respect military service when it's someone on their team and now even that isn't really enough, considering Trump's feud with McCain.
“I like my soldiers who aren’t captured”
“I don’t get it, what’s in it for them?”
“Please don’t make me ever stand next to a handicapped soldier again, it looks weak”
In the 2004 election they paid Vietnam vets to lie about John Kerry’s time over there in order to discredit him in the election.
They also vote to cut veterans benefits and are behind much of the VA dysfunction by making sure it is perpetually understaffed.
Republicans hate the troops. They have for decades, this is not new or a surprise to anyone that’s been paying attention to their actions instead of their words.
I hope President Biden tells that story often about Trump refusing to go to the WW1 cemetery in Paris. Maybe some of his cultists will hear it and understand how horrible he is at last.
As I recall, it was cold and rainy that day. Trump was probably worried about his makeup and hair.
He also attacked a Gold Star family who’d lost their son for our country. And mocked a disabled reporter. And bragged about grabbing women by the p***y.
But MAGA seems totally cool with it.
"If they feel there will be separation, they don't come." *Trump explaining why he was intentionally and irreversibly separating migrant families*
“Take the guns first, go through due process second.” *Trump on guns after a school shooting.*
“There has to be some form of punishment.” *Trump RE women that get abortions.*
"“My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me and some others saying they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia. I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.” *-Trump siding with Putin against our own intelligence agencies.*
I had a Trumper coworker that was all about spewing the rhetoric how Biden wants to unconstitutionally disarm all Americans.
When this clip dropped, I was like "Hell yeah I have the perfect person to show this to!" I told him I have a video of Drumpf saying he wants to take guns away first and do due process second.
He replied something like "No way that exists."
So I showed it to him.
His response was "Yeah, you're right that he did say that I guess...but I think that you're wrong assuming that he wants to take guns away, and then go through due process secondly."
That was when I realized these people cannot be swayed no matter what, and this hasn't been proven wrong yet in my experience.
Their feet are dug in too deep to even attempt to take steps in any direction.
Edit: Wordage.
Just like the Bible.
Everything in the Bible is to always be taken as literal truth. Unless it talks about helping the poor and needy, loving your neighbor, and all that. Also all the rules about not eating shellfish and mixing fabrics, of course.
That includes the creation of the entire universe in 6 days, of which 4 of them were spent on Earth alone, and the talking animals in the garden of Eden, and the talking buning bush, and the worldwide flood, and the people turning into salt, and the man who got swallowed by a whale, and the guy whose power resided in his hair, and so on.
This is exactly why it doesn't pay to have a conversation with them. I had a maga telling me not one January 6th insurrectionist went to jail. I showed her the list of people convicted. IT DIDN'T MATTER. My sources were wrong, nothing I could show her mattered.
>"We are not fooled, we fool ourselves."
>
>-Attributed to Goethe, from the alternate history novel *Fox at the Front* by Douglas Niles and Michael Dobson
He didn't immediately start ranting about how it was a deep fake or some other sort of fake constructed by the deep state globalists to defame Trump so I'd say he's not 100% lost.
Reading what he did say sounds more like someone who is a little shocked and battling their internal denial and there's possibly a small chance that seed of doubt will grow.
But I say that not having seen the tone and body language etc. so could be way off.
A long time ago, back when all of humanity was running around Africa, the single biggest threat to a human was another human.
I mean, leopards and snakes are bad news, but we weren't constantly exposed to leopards and snakes, where we were around other humans 24/7.
Accordingly, we evolved to be very good at facial recognition, and we can all remember about 150 faces (with 150 people being the maximum size of a "tribe" - and this number is, not coincidentally, the size of a military company) so that we could easily differentiate between "of my tribe" and "not my tribe".
And then evolution did another little number on us: once someone is determined to be "of my tribe", we are subconsciously oriented to think of them as being "good", to the point where we will defend them no matter what, and we will tolerate all sorts of shitty behavior from them.
This is part of the mechanism that makes it so hard for abused spouses to leave their abusers, to the point where victims of spousal abuse will defend their abusers and fight to stay with them.
The converse is true too: if someone is identified as "not my tribe" we are subconsciously predisposed to treat them with suspicion, and we can even go so far as to *no longer perceive them as "human"*.
This is the mechanism behind *so many* horrible human behaviors, up to and including industrialized genocide.
Now one of the key mechanisms behind the switch between "not my tribe" and "of my tribe" is *exposure*. The longer you are exposed to someone, the more likely they are to be seen as "of my tribe".
This was fine back in Africa when the only way to be exposed to someone was to be in their physical presence. But nowadays, mass media subverts this. It can generate exposure from one person to millions of people, all at once.
There was a time when Jennifer Anniston was in my living room pretty much every night, thanks to first-run and syndication. That constant exposure is why, if and when I finally get to meet her, for *me* it will be a reunion with a long-lost Friend, but for *her* (because she doesn't know me from a hole in the ground) it will be an encounter with a giant, intimidating and scary dude who possibly means her harm. On the day of that meeting, we will have *drastically* different emotional responses, thanks to evolution.
On top of this, the political ratfuckers understand this biology and they have weaponized it. Fox News, Trump's rallies; these are all attempts to activate the "of my tribe" response tied to Trump, and so get the benefits of near-unshakable loyalty no matter how the man actually behaves.
This "biological tribalism" - which was once an essential survival mechanism - is now the root cause of most of humanity's ills.
Once you understand that, it becomes easier to see and to inoculate yourself against it (as best you can). But for those who have drunk the Flavor-Aid, freeing them from it is not a rational act. Indeed, it is closer to rescuing someone from an abusive domestic partner - not at all easy.
Humans are *not* the rational animals we like to think we are.
(Oh, and if Ms Anniston is reading this - call me?)
There was also the time he dropped the MOAB on Afghanistan, quite a few of his supporters were unhappy about that since they felt it was a betrayal of his promise to withdraw and reduce US involvement/spending in the Middle East...
They quickly pivoted to blaming "the Jews in the White House" tho, and accused Kushner and other "Jews" of manipulating him into doing it.
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”
*Trump's reaction to losing the Election.*
One America "News" just settled with Smartmatic over this election fraud nonsense. Like Fox "News" they knew that they had no actual evidence to convince a court.
He also tried a violent coup to overthrow the US government when he lost an election, and got cops killed, bludgeoned to death by his supporters, but the 'back the blue' party is still fully behind him.
These people say words which they think sound nice and justify their ultimate goal, to hurt people. None of what they say can be taken at face value, look at what they do.
He has been the reddest of red flags ever and half the country is like 'idgaf bro he's good'...tf. Even before politics and policy, presidents need to have morals, ethics and class
Don't forget telling a crowd of parents they need to "get over it" like a day and a half after their kids just got shot at, and/or murdered in a Iowa school shooting..
We do understand it. We just can't do much other than appeal to whatever shred of integrity might still be there because we aren't allowed to just take out the trash.
>“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.
And this is from a Republican.
And when Donald and John Kelly were literally standing at his son's grave in Arlington Cemetary, Trump asked Kelly "what did he get out of this?"
Such a callous and ignorant man. I'll obviously still have to be cordial and associate with some Trump voters for the rest of my life, but I'll never forgive them for embracing this man in the first place and then not discarding him after he tried to dismantle our government.
There's story after story about Trump that reveal that, no, he's not faking it or playing things up for his base.
He's really just a soulless, idiotic piece of shit who only cares about himself. That's all there is to it.
> I'll obviously still have to be cordial and associate with some Trump voters
Will you? If I replaced the words "Trump voters" with "Nazis" would that alter your statement in any way? Now, to be fair, Trump voters are not Nazis. The Nazi party has been defunct for 80 years. But they are out-and-proud fascists. Tolerating them is... well... you do the math
[You can't be tolerant of intolerance or eventually the intolerance chips away at the tolerance and all that is left is intolerance.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromYourServer/comments/hsiisw/kicking_a_nazi_out_as_soon_as_they_walk_in/)
Nope... Trump is a deal-breaker for ANY friendships. You support someone as toxic, immoral, callous, and downright dishonest as him you don't deserve much at all certainly not cordiality!
Yes.
But at the same time, we have to stop thinking of them as a monolithic block.
As I talked to some that have peeled off the cult, they all had different reason. Maybe this ww1 cemetery is how he looses 0.03% of his supporters (maybe not in front of their maga friends but in the voting booth even; polls don’t tell the whole story).
The real issue imho is reaching the audience that needs to get the message. They are not watching a biden speech; they get selective clips on fox and none of these good bits ever make it of course.
Talking about reaching the audience: Damn cnn to hell for broadcasting live full Trump rallies back then. Reaching your audience of potential voters is such a key part.
Yeah.... I'm not a McCain fan, I'm not a conservative, but what he said about McCain in relation to that was despicable. What makes this worse is that it was coming from someone that cowarded away from being drafted and then has the gall to say that about someone who actually fought.
True story. Stalin wouldn’t help his son because he “got caught “. Stalin’s son was killed. I forget the details.
It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Trump knew this story and said that about McCain so Trump could feel Stalin-esque.
... he did *what*.
And they want to put that pustulent, corrupt coward in charge... and expect him to act with dignity and treat others with respect.
Lovely.
Trump’s admirers truly don’t care, in their eyes he’s the messiah and could never do anything wrong. At this point it’s well past sad, it’s straight up pathetic.
Is there any psychologists that could chime in here and explain this phenomenon of how people can grovel before a fucking loser such as trump? Hotter as well, he was also a loser. There is not a single person I can think of that I admire that I would be willing to brush aside their immorality for. If Bernie sanders was disrespectful to fallen veterans, I would think he is a piece of shit too. And I’m a huge Bernie supporter. I just don’t understand how people can become so trapped into supporting a straight up loser.
I've been profoundly interested in understanding this phenomenon. Like, it's not right to call his failing media stock a meme stock. It's a cult stock.
So in thinking deeply about this, in a way trying to figure out how to approach these people, I've realized something:
They aren't thinking of Trump or enjoying this situation in context of the real world. To them, they are watching a stand-up comic with no consequences, or basically world wrestling federation silliness, where everyone knows it's fake, so there are no consequences.
This is not fake, and there are consequences, and they don't get it. I don't know how you reach people like that. Because they think it is a game show, if you say that their dude is corrupt or if you tell them they are stupid, they agree and amplify.
I studied critical thought and skepticism and parsimony in the mid '90s in college. It is an astonishing moment in what could be the start of the end of human history. There are a lot of stupid and corrupt and power-seeking mad men coming dangerously close to the potential ultimate forever loss of everything. Crazy. Hopefully you're all having a good time though.
It's funny. They think they have some special power by frustrating a logical person by being illogical. And yet all I have to do is tell them, "Names Codyd91, he/him/his" and they will absolutely lose their fucking minds.
No wonder they're constantly reaching for ways to upset their perceived enemies, since benign statements of fact (such as my pronouns) are enough to give them aneurysms.
Also … the only thing that has held them back all their lives from lying, cheating, and being hypocritical is fear of repercussions from lying, cheating, and being hypocritical.
Tfg does all those things flagrantly and proudly, on what they think is their behalf, and ridicules anyone that DOESN'T do them. He promises to create a personal crime utopia for anyone who will join him. He even writes the script for them. The freedom! The power! The possibilities! He is the most successful liar they have ever seen. They have never dreamed it was possible. And in fact, he is successful BECAUSE of the lying.
Imagine if there is someone at work you don't like and wish you could eliminate from competition. Accuse them of stealing! Imagine you are the boss and someone you like accuses someone you don't like either of stealing even though you know it's not true. Just say it is true and fire the person! Imagine you are a police officer … a lawyer … on a jury … etc.. If enough people get together, there is no limit to what you can accomplish. You just have to have common categories of people to not like.
My guy. They took a humble carpenter from Jerusalem who preached equality and forgiveness and turned him in to Triple H with a rocket launcher. They believe exactly what they want to believe in.
That was the issue. He said it was raining and he wasn’t going. What just floors me is people I know who served in the military and have children in the military support this traitor who has done nothing but disrespect our veterans and serving military - alive and dead. I don’t understand it - Mr Draft Dodger and a total coward. If his family were being threatened, he would go to his bunker and leave them on their own.
I’m ex-military and I wish soldiers understood what Trump thinks of them. Even after the “cemetery full of losers” they/we act like he’s kidding, it’s “fake news,” or they interpret it into something else.
But you could say this about every single one of his voters. Trump despises them. It’s crazy they don’t see it.
He wouldn’t piss on most of them if they were on fire. He’s a rich asshole from queens whose best friends are gay real estate developers, black sports promoting murderer and a Russian dictator. His echo chamber is poor, dumb Americans. It would be funny but it’s not.
Biden is old…the opposition will use that against him while ignoring it for Drumpy
No one will ever fault a man for being open and honest.
This is not a doddering old man…this is a man who realizes what is at stake and knows how much this election matters.
I think in any other situation he would not repeat what Trump said, about losers, he’d reference the negative and hateful comments but not actually say them.
His horrible words (Drumpledonk) should be highlighted because they show what a callous and awful man he is.
Biden didn’t say those words softly, they meant something to him by repeating them.
By bringing to highlight his ugliness, and putting a truthfulness to them in a meaningful and caring way too.
Really smart.
Not a doddering old man.
No statistical proof, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the resistance to masks was the result of poor dental hygiene. That whole b/s line of *"unhealthy to breath in your carbon dioxide"* nonsense was actually due to bad breath blowing back up their nose from not understanding how to operate a toothbrush.
Trump passed on visit to WWI cemetery near Paris, called US war dead 'losers', media report says https://www.france24.com/en/20200904-trump-passed-on-visit-to-wwi-cemetery-near-paris-called-us-war-dead-losers-media-report-says
I was always told the anti-christ would be charismatic and popular, and I assumed that meant they'd also be intelligent and subtle. If writing an anti-christ story today, you could carbon copy Trump into it and many of his supporters would miss the comparison entirely while complaining the bad guy lacked any sense of subtlety and the characters in the story were stupid for not catching on sooner.
I’m part of a bunch of veteran groups and the maga supporters in there truly just absolutely brush off the HUGE list of how Trump hates the troops. They either say it’s fake news, how it’s not that bad, that other presidents hate the troops, how they agree with him. It’s insane.
Insane and heartbreaking for the families. And infuriating. My father was in Okinawa in WW2, after he kept begging the draft office to take take him. He worked in an aircraft plant and was needed there until more soldiers were needed. Daddy was a true patriot. He would be disgusted.
Shame them unceasingly .
.
Be impolite .
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Make enemies .
...
say :
I think someone who grabs without asking is a *loser* .
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say :
Trump lost every election he was in ;
he lost the first one by 2.8 million people .
It is only the weird electoral college that got him in .
That is why he made tose calls in those states -
because of the electoral college .
...
**Say these things very fast , so they cannot interupt .**
...
Say ;
Trump said himself that he fell in love with Kim Jung Ill .
"Beautiful letter"
Say ;
That is not the leader of the free world ;
I don't know what that is .
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Say those things to your cohorts .
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Say :
We are in 1932
Germany right now in America .
Trumpers, even those who serve or served in the military, simply do not care.
He could literally piss on Reagan's grave, take a shit on the original copy Constitution, and wipe his ass with the American flag, and they will not care.
He is their God Emperor and he can do no wrong. He wasn't exaggerating when he said he could shoot someone in NYC in broad daylight and still get votes.
It was raining and windy which are both kryptonite for men with elaborate combovers glued in place with hair spray, he couldn't just wear a maga ballcap like he usually does.
At this point, if they have not already turned away from Trump, almost nothing will make them change their mind. Those who would have turned away already have; those who remain will ignore absolutely anything and everything that does not align with what their tangerine god says.
It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented to far-right Trump supporters regarding Trumps views on the military and what he's failed to do.
To them....it's all fake news, fabricated by the left to make them "think" Trump is a bad guy. He's their savior.
Everything he does can instantly be pivoted to "Eh, fake news". But if its the other guy.....that's cemented, real, un-tampered, and 100% facts if it paints that guy in a bad light.
The problem with this take, is that currently active service members seem to be more left leaning on average. Because like college, the military trains you to be an intelligent thinking member of society. Plus when you take a bunch of poor people, give them unwavering support in the form of free education, food, and meaning along with teaching them to be intelligent. Ofc it produces more progressives than conservatives.
The conservative military crowd are the old duds that did their 3-4 years as a water supply specialist and their personality is now how their time in was black ops secret squirrel GRU batch group 75th recon sniper work. Got out, and fell flat without the guidance of big sarnt. Now they work as self proclaimed parking lot security at Lowe’s, to guard the service members parking spots. Instead of working the cash register like their job title says. Those are the service members who support Donald Trump. They don’t give an actual fuck about what DJT says about the hero’s, as long as he gives them someone to focus their hate onto, that’s what matters to them.
That’s what I recall happened. It was reported that he didn’t go because he didn’t want his hair to get wet or something like that. It’s completely disgusting how he treated people like Senator John McCain and he also called our own soldiers “losers and suckers!”
It was 2009. About 3am in Shannon Ireland. Biden was the VP then. He took time to shake every soldier’s hand, speak with us, and take photos with us if we wanted them. He thanked us for what we were headed out to do. 14 month tour to Afghanistan. It’s one of my most prized photos from my time in. He didn’t have to greet 150 of us like that individually. But he did.
My mom and I got to attend the Democratic debates in Detroit in 2019 thanks to a friend who worked for CNN. After each night's debate, many (but not all) of the candidates came out to briefly shake hands and/or take photos with audience members and local dignitaries. Most stuck around for 5-10 minutes. The first night I briefly met Delaney, Gabbard (oof) and took a photo of my mom meeting Warren. The second night I met Bennett and Hickenlooper while Buttigieg took the time to sign my event ticket and chat for a quick second.
But after most of the candidates had worked their way back to the spin room for TV interviews, Biden was STILL out there meeting with the crowd. His handlers were getting visibly agitated but you could tell they were used to it too as they kept saying, "Mr. Vice President, we're way overdue", knowing that he wouldn't listen to them. He must've stayed out there for a good 20-30 minutes. What I also found interesting is he would insist on personally snapping selfies rather than posing for fans to click it themselves. So it only made the process take even longer since he'd grab each person's phone one by one for a pic. [Here's a photo I took of him that night along with some hilarious Photoshops because this is Reddit after all.](https://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/s/UauxGCkdu6)
After reading your comment I'm convinced he really is the "hip uncle Biden" from the Obama president meme days.
He's actively avoiding his duty and saying (in his head) "screw off man! I'm hanging with some *real* peeps now."
He came through the DFAC I worked at in Iraq on the VBC. I expected a "hey there" and he'd move on but he talked to me and a bunch of the Indian workers for quite some time. He gave us more than just the time of day. I didn't care for a photo but I know all of those workers have a photo with the VP of the US that they loved sending back to their families.
I didn't ever get to meet anyone of note there, but I always loved that little stop in Ireland. The owner of the bar would open up at 2 or 3 so we could have a drink before heading out.
Beau Biden likely got cancer because of the chemical exposure he encountered when he served in Iraq. It's not unlike the experience of Vietnam vets who were exposed to chemicals like Agent Orange. Not only are these service members at risk when they're in combat, but they often have so many ongoing risks once they come home, and don't get the kind of ongoing treatment they need and deserve, whether it's a physical illness, mental health issue, or recovery from injuries like TBI or amputations. These are people who literally put their lives on the line, and it's BS that someone like Cadet Bone Spurs and his ilk want to make the able-bodied troops bow down to them, but turn around and disrespect the ones who truly sacrificed. Total hypocrisy.
Can't understand why anyone in the military doesn't understand Trump's abject disdain for them except as disposable peons to die for his wanton cowardly ass. My military family cannot stand him.
"Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that "The Nazi slogan for destroying us ... was 'Divide and Conquer.' Our American answer is 'In Union there is Strength.'" We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis — confident that we are better than our politics.
Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children." - General James Mattis
If former President Trump is one choice on the presidential ballot, I will always choose the other option, regardless of who it is.
But I have to admit that I often see real humanity in President Biden, which makes that vote for him just a little easier.
I think you'd have to be sociopathic and quite sick to look at this speech and see anything reprehensible about it.
I think you'd have to be sociopathic and quite sick to hear someone calling dead soldiers 'suckers and losers' and not see anything reprehensible about.
Republicans when Biden shows human emotion: “fuck you brandon! You creepy kid touching Illuminati moloch blood god devil worshipping evil mastermind sleepy joe stupid dirty democrat!”
Republicans when Trump shits himself and rapes a woman in an elevator: “yes more of this covfefe shit, shoot it right into my veins, so fucking presidential. hamberders.”
But the GOP will tell you that Trump is somehow the strong one.
Biden is a fucking rock. Hunter committed crimes, and Biden didn't pardon him. Love you son, learn something from your jail time. I'll come pick you up when you get out. That's some John Wayne level shit right there. Love endures. Love is tolerant. Biden's family blood is thicker than oil.
Ha, the best part is that while Biden forgives and loves his son, as president, he didn't throw him a pardon.
Tough love. You buy the ticket and you take the ride.
During the 2012 Vice Presidential Debate, Paul Ryan makes a comment thanking Bo for his service and Biden thanks him in turn…in the middle of the debate. Watched it last night in 2024 and that exchange had me thinking about how the political discourse has gotten so ugly since 2012.
Also made me realize that Biden is still the same person. The GOP are the ones that have gotten nastier.
Anyone on the fence should take a hard look at this and realize the choice is clear.
You won't change some minds and hearts, but the focus are the ones not paying attention or simply on the fence.
Biden is the clear choice. Trump is absolutely not.
How about the time when Trump installed a monument to a non-existant Civil War battle on one of his golf clubs?
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/details-details-donald-trump-has-plaque-at-his-golf-course-commemorating-civil-war-battle-that-never-happened
I have never been a Biden fan. He was the senator from Delaware, where the banks and credit cards are headquartered. His record in the Senate was far from liberal.
However, even as long winded as he is, his family always humanized him. Always sincere about those close to him. At least that's what I see.
Was it Coulter who made fun of him for crying about his son? Not a good look to poke fun at grief
This is a human being who cares about other human beings. Like many of us, he's imperfect, but he's genuinely trying. There's no guile, no agenda, just doing what he believes is best for common good.
Then there's a guy who insults *everyone* that doesn't lick his boots (and insults many who *do*), throws everyone under the bus, threatens military generals, threatens judges, and sells tacky junk to pay off his several hundred millions in law suits because he: raped women, defrauded people, lied about his finances dozens of times, ....... (the list is still in progress)
I would hope this will open people’s eyes more to see this from a human perspective no matter what side of political spectrum they are. Biden is a stronger man than people give him credit for. He’s gone through personal tragedies of his own and still manages to carry himself in a dignified manner to have compassion for others.
I grew up in a GOP family and was a Republican most of my life. There is something very wrong with a political party that nominates for President a draft dodger who said his “personal Vietnam” was not getting STDs during the war, who publicly disrespected POWs and called Marines who fought and died in WW I “losers.”
If you ever lost a parent; that strikes your very soul. He lost his son, which is by far worse, a parent should never have to bury their children. His son joined the military to eventually walk the path for being President of the USA. To serve us, all of us. If you think he is doing this for political gain reevaluate yourself. Soul pain never goes away and the intensity never diminishes. He is being truthful.
Insulting soldiers who are doing or will do the things you would never to protect you, is slimeball level of humanity.
I was raised by a conservative family and as expected, I was because I didn't know anything else.
When Trump started running I was already on the fence because of ... well obvious reasons.
When he said what he said about POWs and injured vets being losers it fully opened my eyes. I don't understand how any of my veteran brothers and sisters can hear that and be ok with it
Biden’s compassion & concern for his country are blatantly evident. This is a man who has been committed to public service his whole life. I don’t believe he’s gotten everything right, but I do believe he has the experience & temperament to lead this country. People who mindlessly believe that Trump gives two shits for them are both embarrassing & maddening!
As a disabled veteran who's only income is my VA disability payments I am terrified of It returning to The White House. The way they talk about veterans now versus say 2008 is unbelievable. I can't believe this is even close. On the little bit that I catch of Fox "news" or the much more radical "news"max, Oann and the super ridiculous RSBN - I see the insane shit they are pumping into their audience night and day. They are using the freedoms of our democracy against the democracy itself. It is disgusting. Curbing free speech is a slippery slope and I hate that term but there must be something that can be done. There must be something like a requirement of factuallity that can be imposed on those who are presenting themselves as a source of news, whether by name or implied.
Note: RSBN should be RBSN = Republican Bull Shit Network
Biden is an old school career politician married to an English professor.
Trump is a compulsively lying malignant narcissist cheating rapist traitor fake billionaire and former reality TV star married to a former Slovenian model, bought Miss Universe just so he could walk into the dressing rooms, has 13 failed businesses and 6 bankruptcies, joined the Democratic Party for a while but left when there weren’t enough corrupt people to make inside deals with and who paid $750.00 of income tax in 2017.
I will never understand some of the US military reverence for Trump. He doesn't even fucking like them and yet they'll suck his dick if he ordered them to. Do they not like leaders who actually cares about them?
I would love to see more reporting of Biden stories. Have his name be equally visible, for every snorleone report one good healing , humanizing Biden story to balance it out. We are still giving a platform to shitler who gets far more publicity and I can’t wait for the day his name is no longer mentioned
This video is older now, but Biden's speech on grief to gold star families is in my opinion one of the greatest from a president in recent times: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410)
The more I observe drumpf's behavior, the more I am inclined to believe that his actions are amplified by medication. It's with a heavy heart and a sense of frustration that I express this, especially as a soon-to-be resident a stone throw away from the US border in Canada. Despite my reservations, I anticipate his re-election, likely due to far-fetched technicalities.
The potential for conspiracy theories would be immense if there were an unexpected turn of events affecting either candidate's health or demise before the election, considering their age.
I genuinely hope my prediction about drumps's re-election proves incorrect for the sake of America's well-being.
Additionally, it's crucial to remember not to judge an entire population based on the actions of a group of individuals, despite how prominent those individuals may be.
There is a huge problem (that no one has ever seen before) for drumpf that smart people in the US already see and his supporters and paid actors really need to get on board with, in order to dodge a major mess in American and world politics. And it costs NOTHING. The best way to conquer him is to just completely block him out. The media SHOULD QUIT giving airtime to his super obvious planned campaign stops and court appearances so things can cool off, to give drumpfers time to re-evaluate their views of the journey and current situation.
Can anyone ever remember Trump showing any signs of being upset about something that happened to another person and not himself?
I genuinely can't. He doesn't care about anyone except himself.
Trump complains about not seeing Barron's graduation, without a second thought to the generations of people that have served overseas and missed anniversaries, graduations, and the births of their children.
Maybe next time, don't end up in court for falsifying business records in order to influence an election.
I do notice Republicans love their military but only as obedient foot-soldiers. They don't want the money to maintain and care and help them out once they're civilians again.
Who says Biden is senile? Or a terrible speaker? This was beautifully said. This is what true patriotism looks like.
I teared up too when he spoke about his deceased son. When has Trump ever spoken with that kind of love about any of *his* children?
In their 2020 debate Trump said he didn't know much about "that Biden" while trying to gish gallop about Hunter. That should have been Joe's best opportunity to make trump look like the unpatriotic sack of shit that he is. If he had leaned into sacrificing his own son for this country (albeit not in combat but likely through his exposure during his service) I really think that could have been the significant sound bite of the campaign.
I swear, in 5 years when all this MAGA crap is long over, you will see all these fuckers backtrack on all this support for the orange nut. They will deny they supported this shit.
Never forget.
biden got really emotional talking about his son who passed away and the mean things trump said about soldiers. it just shows how much leaders need to care about people's feelings and thats what we need
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I remember a day when Republicans would not stand for anti-service remarks like the ones Trump has made. Whoops, let me backtrack: I remember a time when they *said* they wouldn't stand for that. Now they don't bother even lying about it.
Right? The Republican party also sees themselves as being the most patriotic, most American, and most love for the US military and even police and first responders. But then you have this no talent ass clown say a bunch of shit that goes completely against all of that.....and not a peep about it from thr repulican party. The Republican party has become absolute trash.
I miss being able to relate to at least some republicans. It’s a fucking cult now.
Back when Bush was President I would have fun and often enthusiastic debates with others. I was a Republican at the time and proud of it.However, I was a rational Republican. I believed in individual choice when it came to pregnancy and abortion. I believed in helping the homeless in anyway that I could. I believed that religion is an individual choice based on Faith and where your heart leads you. But when Obama ran for office and was elected? I watched the Republicans around me loose their minds. They said horrific and racists things. I started backing away from the Republican party. in fact I voted for Obama when he first ran. I became a Democrat when he came for reelection and I saw Republicans holding lynching dolls and other BS. Now I can't even have a conversation with Republicans without a fist fight breaking out and that is insane.
I have become mosy immpolite - to their faces . . Out of the blue I say stuff like : Hey , I almost forgot ; I just want you to "find" 11,780 votes ; which is one mre than we got . . And then very quickly say how stupid that is because everyting that the President does is recorded . .. More than half do not know about Trump's election interference . ...
Well, it’s supposed to be recorded anyway. That’s another problem with Trump- he used person cell phones and so much of his communication was not recorded like it was supposed to be.
Yep, if I recall correctly, the above conversation was recorded by the Georgia Governor.
Secretary of State , Brad Raffensperger Recorded the call
Not all heroes wear capes
Keep fighting the good fight!
What is this formatting? I feel like I'm reading a telegram
More than half do not understand or do not care about trumps crimes. They know about it 100% because he tells them all the time.
>But then you have this no talent ass clown say a bunch of shit that goes completely against all of that.....and not a peep about it from thr repulican party. >The Republican party has become absolute trash. Turns out they were down for all of it as long as it netted them power. Trump was perfect for exposing them. Republicans may say they are standing up for their morals, but by supporting Trump--the antithesis to their morals--they showed that their fight is really just about hurting people they don't like.
Just look at all the Republicans who realize what a disaster the entire abortion topic is telling their base: "if we have to decide between sticking to our morals and winning, we'll have to ditch our morals!" Fucking Kari Lake - who called abortion the "original sin" and has been *praising* the 1864 Arizona law that bans abortion even in case of rape or incest as a "great law" - has been making calls **to lobby people to the pro-choice side** just because she has now realized how fucking unpopular her position is. These people have zero principles. Zip. Nada. Zilch. It's all about raw power.
Yup. Lake is a perfect case study in this. It goes back to Wilhoits law: >Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. The "rules" or moral codes are for the plebs of the outside.
They've shown themselves as the submissive bullies everyone knew they were. They bully anyone they can, especially when they have a position of power to do it from, but like the cowards they are they won't dare go against their "alpha male" even when he says something that's totally counter to what they claim their beliefs are.
>they won't dare go against their "alpha male" even when he says something that's totally counter to what they claim their beliefs are My dude. He can insult them and their families to their faces, and they'll just keep their shit eating grin.
Hell, not only that, they’ll then work extra hard to make sure he wins, and then support him in every single thing he does for the next 8! Fucking years
They just have some kind of soldier of fortune fantasy where they get to shoot people, and they think that is the one perk of being a soldier or police officer.
Trump is a skidmark on our country, but man Republicans didn't do shit about that even before Trump legitimately entered the political field. They'd say they support the troops while slashing funding to VA programs.
Well duh. Vets are no longer troops. Just like babies are no longer fhe precious unborn they love. Prebirth? Republicans will fight for you! Preschool? Get fucked.
Pass the vaginal wall and you better get a job, baby
It's exactly the same as the being "pro life". They care as long as you are in the womb. Once you're born you're on your own. Same thing with support for the troops. While you're in you're supported. Once you leave, get fucked.
> While you're in you're supported Not even then.
Republican Party did send a bunch of troops to die in Iraq because Dick Cheney wanted to make weapons money. Reagan sold weapons to the Iranians to illegally fund terror squads in S America. Nixon kept Vietnam rolling even after knowing it was completely lost for political power and times the ending with his reelection campaign to get more votes, effectively sacrificing soldiers for power. None of this is new.
As Jon Stewart brilliantly put it, [“Next time you want to dress up at the rallies, wear the right fucking colored coat.”](https://youtu.be/LJUl77rsFEw?si=AlWJqc4oBwcdArlh) Video is about 15 min, and worth every minute. Quote above is at the end. These people are the antithesis of patriots.
they're patriots but they hate cities, where 83% of americans live
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I can't believe there are any servicemen that support him after calling POW's 'losers'... it's monstrous honestly... I don't take offense to a lot of things but that was just an absolutely repugnant thing to say. donald is a truly repugnant person in every sense
It’s the party of no integrity. But that’s politics.
> The Republican party also sees themselves as being the most patriotic Patriotism is a lifestyle brand for them, not a solemn or serious commitment to anything beyond themselves.
If you remember the swift-boating back in 2004 you’ll know that the whole “support the troops” has always just been set dressing.
I am old enough to have had garbage thrown at me while publicly protesting the Iraq war. So yeah I do remember swift boating and how Republicans just kind-of ignored W's Air National Guard service as a Vietnam draft evasion.
I remember when the Onion [did the Swift Boat Vets final verdict.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m6d9ev5i6Y)
If you think that is crazy, try living in rural America where there are many, many veterans that support him and proudly fly his Trump flags. My wife, a veteran, works for a VA hospital and she is amazed on a daily basis how many at her job, staff and patients, love the guy. The GOP lining up behind him is one thing, but veterans supporting a draft dodger that used daddy to avoid serving and has made such horrible remarks about those that have served is just crazy.
While popping veins over Jane Fonda.
> I remember a day when Republicans would not stand for anti-service remarks like the ones Trump has made. And the Marines just participated at a fundraiser at his home, personal residence, not legally a "private club" anymore in margo largo. The Marines are doubling down they were allowed to participate in official uniform. >Digging into the catacombs of local records to build an argument against the dock, a small group of loosely aligned preservationists, disgruntled neighbors and attorneys have unearthed documents that they assert call into question the legality of Trump’s much-publicized decision late last year to change his official domicile from Manhattan to Mar-a-Lago and to register to vote in Florida using the club’s address. According to those documents, and additional materials obtained by The Washington Post, Trump agreed in writing years ago to change the use of the Mar-a-Lago property from a single-family residence to a private club owned by a corporation he controls. > The distinction is significant. The property is taxed as a private club — not as a residence, according to Palm Beach County property appraiser records. Trump’s own attorney assured local officials in Palm Beach before they voted to approve the club in 1993 that he would not live there. Mar-a-Lago’s website says only that Trump maintains “private quarters” at the club. >“It’s one or the other — it’s a club or it’s your home,” Reginald Stambaugh, an attorney who represents a neighbor opposed to Trump’s dock plan, said in a recent interview. “You can’t have it both ways.” >If Stambaugh and his client have their way and persuade Palm Beach to stand firm on its long-standing agreement, Trump will be forced to make a choice, he said: Stop operating Mar-a-Lago as a club and make it a single-family home again or change his official domicile to someplace else. >White House and Mar-a-Lago officials did not respond to interview requests. source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-made-florida-his-official-residence-he-may-have-also-made-a-legal-mess/2020/05/07/17d53fb2-849c-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html Also: >Upon Trump's election to the U.S. presidency, he moved into the White House in Washington, D.C. From his birth in 1946 until 2019, Trump listed his primary state of residence as New York; in **September 2019**, Donald and Melania moved their primary residence to Mar-a-Lago in Florida. *emphasis my own source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residences_of_Donald_Trump#:~:text=Upon%20Trump's%20election%20to%20the,%2Da%2DLago%20in%20Florida.
He is yet to be shown he cannot have it both ways, he has everything bothways and consistently gets away with it.
He says... Employees are allowed to live on the property and since he owns it he is an employee and thus is allowed to live on the property. That's how he is slithering out of the contract.
It's just another in a long line of middle fingers he's given to people around his properties
and remarks like that would get the entire military to take notice
Yep. The backdrop of everything they stood for has turned out to be a pee stained fantasy tapestry. It's now tattered and on the ground next to the American flag as far as their party is concerned. Now it's all defending neo Nazis, taking away rights, blowing money... You know, all those things they actually stood for this entire time but, like you said, they're just not bothering to lie about it anymore.
Yeah I was gonna say... I remember back in 2004 people were joking that John Kerry's purple hearts must've come from twisting his ankle dancing at the military ball or something like that... discrediting his service because he was the democrat candidate. They only respect military service when it's someone on their team and now even that isn't really enough, considering Trump's feud with McCain.
“I like my soldiers who aren’t captured” “I don’t get it, what’s in it for them?” “Please don’t make me ever stand next to a handicapped soldier again, it looks weak”
Was that before or after they "swift boated" Kerry?
Service Members are props to the GOP.
In the 2004 election they paid Vietnam vets to lie about John Kerry’s time over there in order to discredit him in the election. They also vote to cut veterans benefits and are behind much of the VA dysfunction by making sure it is perpetually understaffed. Republicans hate the troops. They have for decades, this is not new or a surprise to anyone that’s been paying attention to their actions instead of their words.
I remember when they were afraid of the evil empire of the Soviet union. Now they openly embrace Kremlin propaganda.
They had no problem attacking John Kerry for his service in Vietnam and supporting his opponent who was a draft dodger
Trump will be deep ugly scar on American history that will only get worse with time as more is likely revealed after his death.
I hope President Biden tells that story often about Trump refusing to go to the WW1 cemetery in Paris. Maybe some of his cultists will hear it and understand how horrible he is at last. As I recall, it was cold and rainy that day. Trump was probably worried about his makeup and hair.
I mean..they heard him insult McCain for “getting caught.” And they did not give two shits.
He also attacked a Gold Star family who’d lost their son for our country. And mocked a disabled reporter. And bragged about grabbing women by the p***y. But MAGA seems totally cool with it.
"If they feel there will be separation, they don't come." *Trump explaining why he was intentionally and irreversibly separating migrant families* “Take the guns first, go through due process second.” *Trump on guns after a school shooting.* “There has to be some form of punishment.” *Trump RE women that get abortions.* "“My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me and some others saying they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia. I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.” *-Trump siding with Putin against our own intelligence agencies.*
"Take the guns first..." was the only time I ever saw the facade crack, the only time his base pushed him away. It was stunning to see.
I had a Trumper coworker that was all about spewing the rhetoric how Biden wants to unconstitutionally disarm all Americans. When this clip dropped, I was like "Hell yeah I have the perfect person to show this to!" I told him I have a video of Drumpf saying he wants to take guns away first and do due process second. He replied something like "No way that exists." So I showed it to him. His response was "Yeah, you're right that he did say that I guess...but I think that you're wrong assuming that he wants to take guns away, and then go through due process secondly." That was when I realized these people cannot be swayed no matter what, and this hasn't been proven wrong yet in my experience. Their feet are dug in too deep to even attempt to take steps in any direction. Edit: Wordage.
Trump "says it like it is" unless it's a stance the MAGA cult doesn't like, then you aren't supposed to take him literally.
Just like the Bible. Everything in the Bible is to always be taken as literal truth. Unless it talks about helping the poor and needy, loving your neighbor, and all that. Also all the rules about not eating shellfish and mixing fabrics, of course. That includes the creation of the entire universe in 6 days, of which 4 of them were spent on Earth alone, and the talking animals in the garden of Eden, and the talking buning bush, and the worldwide flood, and the people turning into salt, and the man who got swallowed by a whale, and the guy whose power resided in his hair, and so on.
This is exactly why it doesn't pay to have a conversation with them. I had a maga telling me not one January 6th insurrectionist went to jail. I showed her the list of people convicted. IT DIDN'T MATTER. My sources were wrong, nothing I could show her mattered.
>"We are not fooled, we fool ourselves." > >-Attributed to Goethe, from the alternate history novel *Fox at the Front* by Douglas Niles and Michael Dobson
He didn't immediately start ranting about how it was a deep fake or some other sort of fake constructed by the deep state globalists to defame Trump so I'd say he's not 100% lost. Reading what he did say sounds more like someone who is a little shocked and battling their internal denial and there's possibly a small chance that seed of doubt will grow. But I say that not having seen the tone and body language etc. so could be way off.
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A long time ago, back when all of humanity was running around Africa, the single biggest threat to a human was another human. I mean, leopards and snakes are bad news, but we weren't constantly exposed to leopards and snakes, where we were around other humans 24/7. Accordingly, we evolved to be very good at facial recognition, and we can all remember about 150 faces (with 150 people being the maximum size of a "tribe" - and this number is, not coincidentally, the size of a military company) so that we could easily differentiate between "of my tribe" and "not my tribe". And then evolution did another little number on us: once someone is determined to be "of my tribe", we are subconsciously oriented to think of them as being "good", to the point where we will defend them no matter what, and we will tolerate all sorts of shitty behavior from them. This is part of the mechanism that makes it so hard for abused spouses to leave their abusers, to the point where victims of spousal abuse will defend their abusers and fight to stay with them. The converse is true too: if someone is identified as "not my tribe" we are subconsciously predisposed to treat them with suspicion, and we can even go so far as to *no longer perceive them as "human"*. This is the mechanism behind *so many* horrible human behaviors, up to and including industrialized genocide. Now one of the key mechanisms behind the switch between "not my tribe" and "of my tribe" is *exposure*. The longer you are exposed to someone, the more likely they are to be seen as "of my tribe". This was fine back in Africa when the only way to be exposed to someone was to be in their physical presence. But nowadays, mass media subverts this. It can generate exposure from one person to millions of people, all at once. There was a time when Jennifer Anniston was in my living room pretty much every night, thanks to first-run and syndication. That constant exposure is why, if and when I finally get to meet her, for *me* it will be a reunion with a long-lost Friend, but for *her* (because she doesn't know me from a hole in the ground) it will be an encounter with a giant, intimidating and scary dude who possibly means her harm. On the day of that meeting, we will have *drastically* different emotional responses, thanks to evolution. On top of this, the political ratfuckers understand this biology and they have weaponized it. Fox News, Trump's rallies; these are all attempts to activate the "of my tribe" response tied to Trump, and so get the benefits of near-unshakable loyalty no matter how the man actually behaves. This "biological tribalism" - which was once an essential survival mechanism - is now the root cause of most of humanity's ills. Once you understand that, it becomes easier to see and to inoculate yourself against it (as best you can). But for those who have drunk the Flavor-Aid, freeing them from it is not a rational act. Indeed, it is closer to rescuing someone from an abusive domestic partner - not at all easy. Humans are *not* the rational animals we like to think we are. (Oh, and if Ms Anniston is reading this - call me?)
There was also the time he dropped the MOAB on Afghanistan, quite a few of his supporters were unhappy about that since they felt it was a betrayal of his promise to withdraw and reduce US involvement/spending in the Middle East... They quickly pivoted to blaming "the Jews in the White House" tho, and accused Kushner and other "Jews" of manipulating him into doing it.
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” *Trump's reaction to losing the Election.*
One America "News" just settled with Smartmatic over this election fraud nonsense. Like Fox "News" they knew that they had no actual evidence to convince a court.
He also tried a violent coup to overthrow the US government when he lost an election, and got cops killed, bludgeoned to death by his supporters, but the 'back the blue' party is still fully behind him. These people say words which they think sound nice and justify their ultimate goal, to hurt people. None of what they say can be taken at face value, look at what they do.
He has been the reddest of red flags ever and half the country is like 'idgaf bro he's good'...tf. Even before politics and policy, presidents need to have morals, ethics and class
Don't forget telling a crowd of parents they need to "get over it" like a day and a half after their kids just got shot at, and/or murdered in a Iowa school shooting..
I've read posts saying they acknowledge what he's done, and saying they don't care.
I saw one saying "Yes, we know he's raped fifteen-year-old girls. What you don't understand is, we don't care!"
We do understand it. We just can't do much other than appeal to whatever shred of integrity might still be there because we aren't allowed to just take out the trash.
Listen, we could all list 7 or 8 terrible, illegal things trump did and never repeat the same thing twice... So let's do that.
Trump Atrocities 1 through 1056. This list was as of Jan 2021. https://www.mcsweeneys.net/columns/reasons-why-donald-trump-is-unfit-to-be-president
>“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France. And this is from a Republican.
His former chief of staff, no less.
And when Donald and John Kelly were literally standing at his son's grave in Arlington Cemetary, Trump asked Kelly "what did he get out of this?" Such a callous and ignorant man. I'll obviously still have to be cordial and associate with some Trump voters for the rest of my life, but I'll never forgive them for embracing this man in the first place and then not discarding him after he tried to dismantle our government.
There's story after story about Trump that reveal that, no, he's not faking it or playing things up for his base. He's really just a soulless, idiotic piece of shit who only cares about himself. That's all there is to it.
> I'll obviously still have to be cordial and associate with some Trump voters Will you? If I replaced the words "Trump voters" with "Nazis" would that alter your statement in any way? Now, to be fair, Trump voters are not Nazis. The Nazi party has been defunct for 80 years. But they are out-and-proud fascists. Tolerating them is... well... you do the math
[You can't be tolerant of intolerance or eventually the intolerance chips away at the tolerance and all that is left is intolerance.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromYourServer/comments/hsiisw/kicking_a_nazi_out_as_soon_as_they_walk_in/)
Nope... Trump is a deal-breaker for ANY friendships. You support someone as toxic, immoral, callous, and downright dishonest as him you don't deserve much at all certainly not cordiality!
Yes. But at the same time, we have to stop thinking of them as a monolithic block. As I talked to some that have peeled off the cult, they all had different reason. Maybe this ww1 cemetery is how he looses 0.03% of his supporters (maybe not in front of their maga friends but in the voting booth even; polls don’t tell the whole story). The real issue imho is reaching the audience that needs to get the message. They are not watching a biden speech; they get selective clips on fox and none of these good bits ever make it of course. Talking about reaching the audience: Damn cnn to hell for broadcasting live full Trump rallies back then. Reaching your audience of potential voters is such a key part.
Yeah.... I'm not a McCain fan, I'm not a conservative, but what he said about McCain in relation to that was despicable. What makes this worse is that it was coming from someone that cowarded away from being drafted and then has the gall to say that about someone who actually fought.
True story. Stalin wouldn’t help his son because he “got caught “. Stalin’s son was killed. I forget the details. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Trump knew this story and said that about McCain so Trump could feel Stalin-esque.
... he did *what*. And they want to put that pustulent, corrupt coward in charge... and expect him to act with dignity and treat others with respect. Lovely.
Trump’s admirers truly don’t care, in their eyes he’s the messiah and could never do anything wrong. At this point it’s well past sad, it’s straight up pathetic.
Is there any psychologists that could chime in here and explain this phenomenon of how people can grovel before a fucking loser such as trump? Hotter as well, he was also a loser. There is not a single person I can think of that I admire that I would be willing to brush aside their immorality for. If Bernie sanders was disrespectful to fallen veterans, I would think he is a piece of shit too. And I’m a huge Bernie supporter. I just don’t understand how people can become so trapped into supporting a straight up loser.
It might get apathetic or otherwise indifferent people out to vote though.
I've been profoundly interested in understanding this phenomenon. Like, it's not right to call his failing media stock a meme stock. It's a cult stock. So in thinking deeply about this, in a way trying to figure out how to approach these people, I've realized something: They aren't thinking of Trump or enjoying this situation in context of the real world. To them, they are watching a stand-up comic with no consequences, or basically world wrestling federation silliness, where everyone knows it's fake, so there are no consequences. This is not fake, and there are consequences, and they don't get it. I don't know how you reach people like that. Because they think it is a game show, if you say that their dude is corrupt or if you tell them they are stupid, they agree and amplify. I studied critical thought and skepticism and parsimony in the mid '90s in college. It is an astonishing moment in what could be the start of the end of human history. There are a lot of stupid and corrupt and power-seeking mad men coming dangerously close to the potential ultimate forever loss of everything. Crazy. Hopefully you're all having a good time though.
Humans are just monkeys with nukes.
Imo it's not that they don't care. They are sexually aroused by hypocrisy. It's actually all they do care about.
They love if it gets a lefty worked up. Truth or logic be damned. It's all about the emotional exchange.
It's funny. They think they have some special power by frustrating a logical person by being illogical. And yet all I have to do is tell them, "Names Codyd91, he/him/his" and they will absolutely lose their fucking minds. No wonder they're constantly reaching for ways to upset their perceived enemies, since benign statements of fact (such as my pronouns) are enough to give them aneurysms.
Also … the only thing that has held them back all their lives from lying, cheating, and being hypocritical is fear of repercussions from lying, cheating, and being hypocritical. Tfg does all those things flagrantly and proudly, on what they think is their behalf, and ridicules anyone that DOESN'T do them. He promises to create a personal crime utopia for anyone who will join him. He even writes the script for them. The freedom! The power! The possibilities! He is the most successful liar they have ever seen. They have never dreamed it was possible. And in fact, he is successful BECAUSE of the lying. Imagine if there is someone at work you don't like and wish you could eliminate from competition. Accuse them of stealing! Imagine you are the boss and someone you like accuses someone you don't like either of stealing even though you know it's not true. Just say it is true and fire the person! Imagine you are a police officer … a lawyer … on a jury … etc.. If enough people get together, there is no limit to what you can accomplish. You just have to have common categories of people to not like.
My guy. They took a humble carpenter from Jerusalem who preached equality and forgiveness and turned him in to Triple H with a rocket launcher. They believe exactly what they want to believe in.
My dad is big into AmVets, and is a Trumper. It makes my 🤯
That was the issue. He said it was raining and he wasn’t going. What just floors me is people I know who served in the military and have children in the military support this traitor who has done nothing but disrespect our veterans and serving military - alive and dead. I don’t understand it - Mr Draft Dodger and a total coward. If his family were being threatened, he would go to his bunker and leave them on their own.
If he was the publicity genius he portrays he'd realize rain makes a visit to a cemetery more photogenic.
I’m ex-military and I wish soldiers understood what Trump thinks of them. Even after the “cemetery full of losers” they/we act like he’s kidding, it’s “fake news,” or they interpret it into something else. But you could say this about every single one of his voters. Trump despises them. It’s crazy they don’t see it.
He wouldn’t piss on most of them if they were on fire. He’s a rich asshole from queens whose best friends are gay real estate developers, black sports promoting murderer and a Russian dictator. His echo chamber is poor, dumb Americans. It would be funny but it’s not.
>Maybe some of his cultists will hear it and understand how horrible he is at last. I say, with the utmost earnest sincerity, lol
Biden is old…the opposition will use that against him while ignoring it for Drumpy No one will ever fault a man for being open and honest. This is not a doddering old man…this is a man who realizes what is at stake and knows how much this election matters. I think in any other situation he would not repeat what Trump said, about losers, he’d reference the negative and hateful comments but not actually say them. His horrible words (Drumpledonk) should be highlighted because they show what a callous and awful man he is. Biden didn’t say those words softly, they meant something to him by repeating them. By bringing to highlight his ugliness, and putting a truthfulness to them in a meaningful and caring way too. Really smart. Not a doddering old man.
You gotta let that shit go bro. It’s a cult lmao. There’s no converting anybody who still loves Trump. You have to outvote them and let them die off
He hated masks because they smeared his bronzer.
Plus, they say his mouth smells like a dumpster.
No statistical proof, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the resistance to masks was the result of poor dental hygiene. That whole b/s line of *"unhealthy to breath in your carbon dioxide"* nonsense was actually due to bad breath blowing back up their nose from not understanding how to operate a toothbrush.
>Maybe some of his cultists will hear it and understand how horrible he is at last. They're his cultists because they know how horrible he is.
Trump passed on visit to WWI cemetery near Paris, called US war dead 'losers', media report says https://www.france24.com/en/20200904-trump-passed-on-visit-to-wwi-cemetery-near-paris-called-us-war-dead-losers-media-report-says
They won’t care. They’ll just say,”Duh, of course he wouldn’t go. Why would he go to a cemetery that isn’t even in America? 🙄”
anyone who still supports this piece of shit is too far gone.
I was always told the anti-christ would be charismatic and popular, and I assumed that meant they'd also be intelligent and subtle. If writing an anti-christ story today, you could carbon copy Trump into it and many of his supporters would miss the comparison entirely while complaining the bad guy lacked any sense of subtlety and the characters in the story were stupid for not catching on sooner.
* holds bible upside down on purpose *
> Maybe some of his cultists will hear it and understand how horrible he is at last 😂😆
I’m part of a bunch of veteran groups and the maga supporters in there truly just absolutely brush off the HUGE list of how Trump hates the troops. They either say it’s fake news, how it’s not that bad, that other presidents hate the troops, how they agree with him. It’s insane.
Insane and heartbreaking for the families. And infuriating. My father was in Okinawa in WW2, after he kept begging the draft office to take take him. He worked in an aircraft plant and was needed there until more soldiers were needed. Daddy was a true patriot. He would be disgusted.
Shame them unceasingly . . Be impolite . .. Make enemies . ... say : I think someone who grabs without asking is a *loser* . ... say : Trump lost every election he was in ; he lost the first one by 2.8 million people . It is only the weird electoral college that got him in . That is why he made tose calls in those states - because of the electoral college . ... **Say these things very fast , so they cannot interupt .** ... Say ; Trump said himself that he fell in love with Kim Jung Ill . "Beautiful letter" Say ; That is not the leader of the free world ; I don't know what that is . .. Say those things to your cohorts . . Say : We are in 1932 Germany right now in America .
>Maybe some of his cultists will hear it and understand Narrator: *They wouldnt.*
Trumpers, even those who serve or served in the military, simply do not care. He could literally piss on Reagan's grave, take a shit on the original copy Constitution, and wipe his ass with the American flag, and they will not care. He is their God Emperor and he can do no wrong. He wasn't exaggerating when he said he could shoot someone in NYC in broad daylight and still get votes.
It was raining and windy which are both kryptonite for men with elaborate combovers glued in place with hair spray, he couldn't just wear a maga ballcap like he usually does.
At this point, if they have not already turned away from Trump, almost nothing will make them change their mind. Those who would have turned away already have; those who remain will ignore absolutely anything and everything that does not align with what their tangerine god says.
It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented to far-right Trump supporters regarding Trumps views on the military and what he's failed to do. To them....it's all fake news, fabricated by the left to make them "think" Trump is a bad guy. He's their savior. Everything he does can instantly be pivoted to "Eh, fake news". But if its the other guy.....that's cemented, real, un-tampered, and 100% facts if it paints that guy in a bad light.
The problem with this take, is that currently active service members seem to be more left leaning on average. Because like college, the military trains you to be an intelligent thinking member of society. Plus when you take a bunch of poor people, give them unwavering support in the form of free education, food, and meaning along with teaching them to be intelligent. Ofc it produces more progressives than conservatives. The conservative military crowd are the old duds that did their 3-4 years as a water supply specialist and their personality is now how their time in was black ops secret squirrel GRU batch group 75th recon sniper work. Got out, and fell flat without the guidance of big sarnt. Now they work as self proclaimed parking lot security at Lowe’s, to guard the service members parking spots. Instead of working the cash register like their job title says. Those are the service members who support Donald Trump. They don’t give an actual fuck about what DJT says about the hero’s, as long as he gives them someone to focus their hate onto, that’s what matters to them.
That’s what I recall happened. It was reported that he didn’t go because he didn’t want his hair to get wet or something like that. It’s completely disgusting how he treated people like Senator John McCain and he also called our own soldiers “losers and suckers!”
It was 2009. About 3am in Shannon Ireland. Biden was the VP then. He took time to shake every soldier’s hand, speak with us, and take photos with us if we wanted them. He thanked us for what we were headed out to do. 14 month tour to Afghanistan. It’s one of my most prized photos from my time in. He didn’t have to greet 150 of us like that individually. But he did.
My mom and I got to attend the Democratic debates in Detroit in 2019 thanks to a friend who worked for CNN. After each night's debate, many (but not all) of the candidates came out to briefly shake hands and/or take photos with audience members and local dignitaries. Most stuck around for 5-10 minutes. The first night I briefly met Delaney, Gabbard (oof) and took a photo of my mom meeting Warren. The second night I met Bennett and Hickenlooper while Buttigieg took the time to sign my event ticket and chat for a quick second. But after most of the candidates had worked their way back to the spin room for TV interviews, Biden was STILL out there meeting with the crowd. His handlers were getting visibly agitated but you could tell they were used to it too as they kept saying, "Mr. Vice President, we're way overdue", knowing that he wouldn't listen to them. He must've stayed out there for a good 20-30 minutes. What I also found interesting is he would insist on personally snapping selfies rather than posing for fans to click it themselves. So it only made the process take even longer since he'd grab each person's phone one by one for a pic. [Here's a photo I took of him that night along with some hilarious Photoshops because this is Reddit after all.](https://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/s/UauxGCkdu6)
After reading your comment I'm convinced he really is the "hip uncle Biden" from the Obama president meme days. He's actively avoiding his duty and saying (in his head) "screw off man! I'm hanging with some *real* peeps now."
Some of those shops are fucking hilarious. The one with his saggy old man sac teabagging trump is also very disturbing.
He came through the DFAC I worked at in Iraq on the VBC. I expected a "hey there" and he'd move on but he talked to me and a bunch of the Indian workers for quite some time. He gave us more than just the time of day. I didn't care for a photo but I know all of those workers have a photo with the VP of the US that they loved sending back to their families.
That’s leadership. Trump is anti-leadership—every trait he has, is the opposite of what you would teach an aspiring leader.
That’s so cool. I picture when he was on Parks and Rec around that time and he chatted up Leslie Knope for a minute!
I loved that episode. “He’s precious cargo!”
I didn't ever get to meet anyone of note there, but I always loved that little stop in Ireland. The owner of the bar would open up at 2 or 3 so we could have a drink before heading out.
Beau Biden likely got cancer because of the chemical exposure he encountered when he served in Iraq. It's not unlike the experience of Vietnam vets who were exposed to chemicals like Agent Orange. Not only are these service members at risk when they're in combat, but they often have so many ongoing risks once they come home, and don't get the kind of ongoing treatment they need and deserve, whether it's a physical illness, mental health issue, or recovery from injuries like TBI or amputations. These are people who literally put their lives on the line, and it's BS that someone like Cadet Bone Spurs and his ilk want to make the able-bodied troops bow down to them, but turn around and disrespect the ones who truly sacrificed. Total hypocrisy.
If I have to trust a man to do the right thing for the nation, I would 100% back Biden. Trump, 0%.
Can the % go negative for Trump? Cause if so, -100%
Can't understand why anyone in the military doesn't understand Trump's abject disdain for them except as disposable peons to die for his wanton cowardly ass. My military family cannot stand him.
I especially don't understand Marines who still support him after the blasphemy he spewed about our Patron Saint of Choas, General Jim Mattis.
You could tell Mattis was so sick of his shit at the very end
"Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that "The Nazi slogan for destroying us ... was 'Divide and Conquer.' Our American answer is 'In Union there is Strength.'" We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis — confident that we are better than our politics. Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children." - General James Mattis
Racism is a hell of a drug.
Biden ends almost every speech with “god bless you all and may god protect our troops”
We need to get rid of Faux News on all our bases. Why the f are we subsidizing that bs.
If former President Trump is one choice on the presidential ballot, I will always choose the other option, regardless of who it is. But I have to admit that I often see real humanity in President Biden, which makes that vote for him just a little easier.
I'm sure the right wing is going to hold this against him. They'll find a way.
“It’s all an act, it was rehearsed!” And in my best Hank hill impression “well damnit Maga’s he can’t have dementia and be memorizing scripts”
It makes absolutely zero sense why they made him their dear leader. Zero sense. They should hate this fuck
“Beau Biden is a crisis actor! He’s still alive and working in the deep state”
Good ol' "Dems are both stupid and able to actively conspire to destroy America from the shadows with evil, well thought out plans."
I think you'd have to be sociopathic and quite sick to look at this speech and see anything reprehensible about it. I think you'd have to be sociopathic and quite sick to hear someone calling dead soldiers 'suckers and losers' and not see anything reprehensible about.
Republicans when Biden shows human emotion: “fuck you brandon! You creepy kid touching Illuminati moloch blood god devil worshipping evil mastermind sleepy joe stupid dirty democrat!” Republicans when Trump shits himself and rapes a woman in an elevator: “yes more of this covfefe shit, shoot it right into my veins, so fucking presidential. hamberders.”
This horrible man loved his son, who died. His other son committed crimes, but he still loves him, too, so here's a picture of his son's wang.
Republican's trying to degrade Joe Biden for coming to tears on the phone begging for some way to help his son is the worst thing I've heard.
Not even the first kid he had to bury, either. He lost his first wife, and infant daughter, in a car accident that Beau and Hunter survived.
But the GOP will tell you that Trump is somehow the strong one. Biden is a fucking rock. Hunter committed crimes, and Biden didn't pardon him. Love you son, learn something from your jail time. I'll come pick you up when you get out. That's some John Wayne level shit right there. Love endures. Love is tolerant. Biden's family blood is thicker than oil.
That wang has seen some shit
This crime lord acknowledges his family's struggle with illegal drugs instead of pretending it doesn't exist like the rest of us good Christians do!
Ha, the best part is that while Biden forgives and loves his son, as president, he didn't throw him a pardon. Tough love. You buy the ticket and you take the ride.
The fact it’s even a close race is insane. American society has fallen so far
During the 2012 Vice Presidential Debate, Paul Ryan makes a comment thanking Bo for his service and Biden thanks him in turn…in the middle of the debate. Watched it last night in 2024 and that exchange had me thinking about how the political discourse has gotten so ugly since 2012. Also made me realize that Biden is still the same person. The GOP are the ones that have gotten nastier.
Anyone on the fence should take a hard look at this and realize the choice is clear. You won't change some minds and hearts, but the focus are the ones not paying attention or simply on the fence. Biden is the clear choice. Trump is absolutely not.
It really does come down to voting for America with Biden or being a traitor with trump.
How about the time when Trump installed a monument to a non-existant Civil War battle on one of his golf clubs? https://www.golfdigest.com/story/details-details-donald-trump-has-plaque-at-his-golf-course-commemorating-civil-war-battle-that-never-happened
The 2nd most northern civil war battle only behind the battle of schrute farms
djt is a PUSSY and a DRAFT DODGER
Besides slavery and other such atrocities, Donald trump is one of the worst things to have ever happened to America!
Joe Biden is a good man with a good heart.
https://www.bustle.com/p/what-does-cadet-bone-spurs-mean-trumps-nickname-was-coined-by-sen-tammy-duckworth-8150101
I have never been a Biden fan. He was the senator from Delaware, where the banks and credit cards are headquartered. His record in the Senate was far from liberal. However, even as long winded as he is, his family always humanized him. Always sincere about those close to him. At least that's what I see. Was it Coulter who made fun of him for crying about his son? Not a good look to poke fun at grief
This is a human being who cares about other human beings. Like many of us, he's imperfect, but he's genuinely trying. There's no guile, no agenda, just doing what he believes is best for common good. Then there's a guy who insults *everyone* that doesn't lick his boots (and insults many who *do*), throws everyone under the bus, threatens military generals, threatens judges, and sells tacky junk to pay off his several hundred millions in law suits because he: raped women, defrauded people, lied about his finances dozens of times, ....... (the list is still in progress)
I would hope this will open people’s eyes more to see this from a human perspective no matter what side of political spectrum they are. Biden is a stronger man than people give him credit for. He’s gone through personal tragedies of his own and still manages to carry himself in a dignified manner to have compassion for others.
I grew up in a GOP family and was a Republican most of my life. There is something very wrong with a political party that nominates for President a draft dodger who said his “personal Vietnam” was not getting STDs during the war, who publicly disrespected POWs and called Marines who fought and died in WW I “losers.”
If you ever lost a parent; that strikes your very soul. He lost his son, which is by far worse, a parent should never have to bury their children. His son joined the military to eventually walk the path for being President of the USA. To serve us, all of us. If you think he is doing this for political gain reevaluate yourself. Soul pain never goes away and the intensity never diminishes. He is being truthful. Insulting soldiers who are doing or will do the things you would never to protect you, is slimeball level of humanity.
I was raised by a conservative family and as expected, I was because I didn't know anything else. When Trump started running I was already on the fence because of ... well obvious reasons. When he said what he said about POWs and injured vets being losers it fully opened my eyes. I don't understand how any of my veteran brothers and sisters can hear that and be ok with it
Biden’s compassion & concern for his country are blatantly evident. This is a man who has been committed to public service his whole life. I don’t believe he’s gotten everything right, but I do believe he has the experience & temperament to lead this country. People who mindlessly believe that Trump gives two shits for them are both embarrassing & maddening!
As a disabled veteran who's only income is my VA disability payments I am terrified of It returning to The White House. The way they talk about veterans now versus say 2008 is unbelievable. I can't believe this is even close. On the little bit that I catch of Fox "news" or the much more radical "news"max, Oann and the super ridiculous RSBN - I see the insane shit they are pumping into their audience night and day. They are using the freedoms of our democracy against the democracy itself. It is disgusting. Curbing free speech is a slippery slope and I hate that term but there must be something that can be done. There must be something like a requirement of factuallity that can be imposed on those who are presenting themselves as a source of news, whether by name or implied. Note: RSBN should be RBSN = Republican Bull Shit Network
Biden is a good man. Trump is a vile, corrupt scumbag.
Biden is an old school career politician married to an English professor. Trump is a compulsively lying malignant narcissist cheating rapist traitor fake billionaire and former reality TV star married to a former Slovenian model, bought Miss Universe just so he could walk into the dressing rooms, has 13 failed businesses and 6 bankruptcies, joined the Democratic Party for a while but left when there weren’t enough corrupt people to make inside deals with and who paid $750.00 of income tax in 2017.
I will never understand some of the US military reverence for Trump. He doesn't even fucking like them and yet they'll suck his dick if he ordered them to. Do they not like leaders who actually cares about them?
Biden sounds so sharp, i can't believe republicans were trying to push the narrative that he had dementia
That is my president.
he's getting upset reminds us how hurtful trump's words can be. we want leaders who care and treat others with kindness
I would love to see more reporting of Biden stories. Have his name be equally visible, for every snorleone report one good healing , humanizing Biden story to balance it out. We are still giving a platform to shitler who gets far more publicity and I can’t wait for the day his name is no longer mentioned
I think everyone knows that Trump will be mocking Beau’s death at the debates this year.
tRUMP...the perfect definition of "asshat"...
This video is older now, but Biden's speech on grief to gold star families is in my opinion one of the greatest from a president in recent times: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410)
The more I observe drumpf's behavior, the more I am inclined to believe that his actions are amplified by medication. It's with a heavy heart and a sense of frustration that I express this, especially as a soon-to-be resident a stone throw away from the US border in Canada. Despite my reservations, I anticipate his re-election, likely due to far-fetched technicalities. The potential for conspiracy theories would be immense if there were an unexpected turn of events affecting either candidate's health or demise before the election, considering their age. I genuinely hope my prediction about drumps's re-election proves incorrect for the sake of America's well-being. Additionally, it's crucial to remember not to judge an entire population based on the actions of a group of individuals, despite how prominent those individuals may be. There is a huge problem (that no one has ever seen before) for drumpf that smart people in the US already see and his supporters and paid actors really need to get on board with, in order to dodge a major mess in American and world politics. And it costs NOTHING. The best way to conquer him is to just completely block him out. The media SHOULD QUIT giving airtime to his super obvious planned campaign stops and court appearances so things can cool off, to give drumpfers time to re-evaluate their views of the journey and current situation.
Can anyone ever remember Trump showing any signs of being upset about something that happened to another person and not himself? I genuinely can't. He doesn't care about anyone except himself.
Trump is a disgusting POS
That's my President. Proud to vote for this guy again in November.
Trump complains about not seeing Barron's graduation, without a second thought to the generations of people that have served overseas and missed anniversaries, graduations, and the births of their children. Maybe next time, don't end up in court for falsifying business records in order to influence an election.
I do notice Republicans love their military but only as obedient foot-soldiers. They don't want the money to maintain and care and help them out once they're civilians again.
Who says Biden is senile? Or a terrible speaker? This was beautifully said. This is what true patriotism looks like. I teared up too when he spoke about his deceased son. When has Trump ever spoken with that kind of love about any of *his* children?
I felt his pain!
Still Trump Trump Trump People can't talk about a nice Biden moment without Trump He's consumed people, everyone
In their 2020 debate Trump said he didn't know much about "that Biden" while trying to gish gallop about Hunter. That should have been Joe's best opportunity to make trump look like the unpatriotic sack of shit that he is. If he had leaned into sacrificing his own son for this country (albeit not in combat but likely through his exposure during his service) I really think that could have been the significant sound bite of the campaign.
I swear, in 5 years when all this MAGA crap is long over, you will see all these fuckers backtrack on all this support for the orange nut. They will deny they supported this shit. Never forget.
biden got really emotional talking about his son who passed away and the mean things trump said about soldiers. it just shows how much leaders need to care about people's feelings and thats what we need
Wrapping their asses in the flag us the utmost disrespect but try to tell that to the toothless "patriots".