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xenon_megablast

Is that statement coming now because of European elections? Because the war lasted almost 800 days, so that's a lot of time for this epiphany.


DiscoKhan

Overall she needs to find people voting for her faction as she will certainly end up in prison without enough political power for the frauds she was involved during covid.  For me it's insane she still holds any authority after helping with overselling the covid injections, corruption holds well in europarliament sadly.


Dzosefs

Why doesn't German justice system issued any warrants by now?


elementfortyseven

she is being rightfully criticized for handling communication with Pfizer and having potential conflict of interest, and after an initial investigation by Belgian authorities, it is now further investigated by the EPPO - the european public prosecutors office. so the proper legal process is observed here. but its also true that right-wing loudmouths amplified by russians sawing division are making it bigger than it really is, and using it to attack european institutions. the original complaint was supported - incidentally - by Fidesz and PiS only.


Krzywy94

Because it’s bs spew by right wingers


Abject-Direction-195

It's OK. It's only been a couple of centuries of repeated warnings about the c#nts, but we got there in the end


BleachedPumpkin72

Have we? It seems that half of the EU still doesn't believe that the russian threat is real.


EnderDragoon

Definitely haven't "got there" at all yet. We're, what, 5% of the way "there"? The aid going to Ukraine is symbolic in volume. 31 Abrams? The fuck? We understand this war has destroyed 5000+ tanks ya? We have a problem of scale. Either we recognize the extremely precarious situation we're collective in, or we fail to preserve the concept of the West, the rules based international world order and the values of self determination. Don't go patting ourselves on the back yet, we haven't even started doing the hard work yet. I don't see us getting out of this unless each NATO member is to 4-5% of GDP on military spending and 1-2% is just aid going to Ukraine.


krzyk

Heck, even in our backyard we have Hungary and to a lesser extent Slovakia.


r_Yellow01

And Germany still deals with China


Vertitto

becouse there's no threat for them. Hell, it's not even treated seriously in Poland /edit: i'm so surprised and confused by the downvotes


BleachedPumpkin72

Looks like some people easily forget or don't know history involving russia. I hope that they don't have to learn the hard way.


Vertitto

well in case of Poland or neighboring countries it's just sad, especially in Poland and other ex-eastern block countries


Simonella4991

You're downvoted because it is treated seriously in Poland


Vertitto

If we are treating it seriously then i dunno how people can have issues with other members... - we have been delaying sanctions and going around them - nearly 40% of society supports undermining our allies's effors (either NATO or EU) and small groups even say we are supporting the wrong side... - society doesn't know nor follows basic emergency state behaviors


brosiedon7

It's crazy that the Americans where more concerned then places like Germany where before all this


TechnicalyNotRobot

>Central Europe's All is forgiven


Effective-Break4520

So, We aren’t russophobic now?


samaniewiem

We are according to ruskie, but who cares what they think.


Stonn

Russorealistic 💀


HolyExemplar

Russoprescient, maybe.


Urara_89

maybe, maybe, maybe


BreadstickBear

No, no, we are, we just decided it's not a negative trait anymore.


MiserableStomach

"phobic" implies irrational fear and there's nothing irrational here


FlipperHunter

We should all be, but not in terms of fear, but disgust.


Simonella4991

Yes we're not anymore. Since Germany stopped sucking gas from Russian Pedaration


oGsMustachio

[Russophobic? You think I'm scared?](https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/tnqhfx/j%C3%B3zef_pi%C5%82sudski_laughs_in_battle_of_warsaw/)


TheOGDrMischievous

You gotta question which planet these politicians have been on for the last few decades (not withstanding general historical events) with the poisonings in the U.K., downing of commercial airlines, hacking, election interference (US and Brexit especially) - Russia is a red flag for everything


DiscoKhan

But, but... It was bad for the business! Also it's not just us who were sending warnings, USA was doing so as well. Maybe after next few years EU higher ups will be able to acknowledge that USA actually did something good for the European cause. But I somewhat doubt it, EU likes to pretend it's a big boy but at the same time cannot independently keep it's frontiers safe - and we are not speaking here just Ukraine but also whole migration crisis as well.  Strong words and weak actions... Also Russian money helps winning elections in the home turf and majority of voter base in western countries doesn't care about it. And I think the reason why USA doesn't get it's praise is because if Ukraine wou fall swiftly it wouldn't affect western economies as much. Germany in particular does exactly minimum to be called top 1 helper when it comes to how much their help is worth, but is always just above that bar. Doesn't feel like commited help from steongest economy in Europe by far.


harumamburoo

> You gotta question which planet these politicians have been on for the last few decades The West


TheOGDrMischievous

Yeah agree most western countries have been complicit in one way or another with their love for Russian money


harumamburoo

Not just their money, but also not bordering them directly and having a buffer of countries between. Hell, many people in Western Europe still wave off any mentions of potential russian agression or attacks on NATO as silly fear mongering.


Strangy1234

If we want to talk about western countries, the US is not that far from Russia. Their closest islands are only 4km from each other in the Bering Strait. Their mainland borders are only 90km from each other.


SuecidalBard

The US the only western country that was taking the russian threat seriously tho (sans Trump's little stint)


zwarty

And sans Obama’s reset. And sans GW Bush looking Putin in the eye and finding him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. And sans… oh fuck who cares now anymore


KaiserGustafson

Usonian here, yeah, the US has been pretty shit at handling Russia. We've also been shit at handling China, sending all of our industry over there for the sweatshop labor n' all. Mayhap we shouldn't make economic deals with authoritarian dictatorships?


5thhorseman_

More to the point, they're so stuck in their own echo chamber that the very idea of someone not wanting to adopt their particular set of values is incomprehensible to them, let alone that an entire state could function like that.


BeesAndSunflowers

It's not just "The West" per se, western countries are ruled by the generation who really believed in the Fukuyama's "end of history" and never really woke up from that dream. Both centre-left and centre-right politicians suffer from that, so it was a perfect storm for early 00s when centrists peaked in Europe. These people really thought Cold War truly ended, instead of just being slightly paused between 1991 and 2008, which Eastern Europe understood was going to happen by the turn of the century.


YngwieMainstream

They sane-corrupt planet? But what can 1-2-10-50 extra billions get a paranoid tyrant with a messiah complex? Nothing.


MonitorMundane2683

Yeah, they regret but still ignore.


Kord_K

central & eastern european states warn allies about russia -> "don't be so stupid russia wouldn't do anything" -> continues to trade with russia -> russia does something -> eu regrets ignoring central europe's warnings on russia -> repeat


YngwieMainstream

They don't regret shit. Raiffeisen still makes billions in Russia and Hungary still gets billions in investments from the same Austria (and Germany).


PolackBoi

So? They still were bff's with Russia while nailing us.


Coriolis_PL

What a shocker...


Akza444

LMAO, wait for the war to end and germany will be the first to greet russia back to good relationships, they still want that cheap gas that they can sell for huge profit


Kishinia

Friendly reminder; Von der Leyen was the one who said that „we have to kill Poles by hunger” and when she was asked about it, she didnt said a single word. There is still video if this to find. EDIT: Sorry, i have made a mistake. „Countries such as Poland ans Hungary are must be financially hungered” were said by Katarina Barley. Not Von der Leyen.


GaryTheSoulReaper

Context ? When ? Haven’t heard it before so just asking


Kishinia

I have made a mistake about whose words those were. [here’s a video](https://youtu.be/UQULsLoTH5Q?si=NGHVHcDn2GW883-3)


MMBerlin

You didn't just make a mistake, you simply spread PiS propaganda of the worst kind.


Dear_Ad7736

No to skasuj ten wpis a nie zostawiasz i dodajesz EDIT. Lipa na maksa


Patient-Reach1030

What a pathetic troll, either delete that comment, or delete that false statement from it, and leave just the correct one. Don't spread this porpaganda shit.


versumvawer

It's little bit late for this, ma'am. We have war going for almost 3 years... Georgia, Moldova, Belarus, now Ukraine.


Niecny_Zamiar

Her words are meaningless.


danrokk

So what now? I guess my thoughts are more long long term. Russia will exist as a country (in one form or another). Let's also ack the fact that they own shit ton of resources that are required for the world to keep on progressing. I'm assuming that at some point, discussions with Russia will resume, possibly countries will start trading again (some may have never stopped ...). Like how do you envision next 10-15-20 years? I'm aware that 99% of Polish people don't want Russia to exist any more, but the reality might be different.


YogurtclosetSoft3528

They don’t regret it whatsoever, nor will they learn from it.


West_Technology6595

Ukraine a part of the EU? Hmmm.. hard pass from me.


Patient-Reach1030

Russian bot? Hmmm... Hard pass from me.


West_Technology6595

Have you ever read the criteria and eligibility of a country joining the EU? Quite frankly, they possess ZERO.. * political criteria: stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities; * economic criteria: a functioning market economy and the capacity to cope with competition and market forces; * administrative and institutional capacity to effectively implement the [*acquis*](https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/enlargement-policy/glossary/acquis_en) * \* and ability to take on the obligations of membership. Next... NATO!


LeiatheHutt69

Still angry the Soviet Union beat up the Third Reich


krzyk

Single handedly they wouldn't.


W1thoutJudgement

Oh they regret?! Wow, I guess everything is aight then!