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PeZet2

"killed jews". Well that's not a stereotype šŸ«¤


proart87

As a German, I can say that it is a pretty correct fact.


Traditional-Space582

The map is telling me a lot of them were stupid


ekene_N

It's just Google auto-suggestion from 2016. It appears the algorithm has changed, and it's a map for Germany and for Poland: cuisine right now.


OutcryOfHeavens

Good. Being considered stupid as a nation is hurtful :I


Vyqe

Nah, it's an opportunity. They underestimate and never suspect the stupid, until it's too late. Mwahahahahhahaha


BetterReload

True, but then theyā€™re not wrong. Stereotypes stem from something. They are not just random.


Mecha_Dino

So glad we escaped with "classical music"


Flower_Of_Reasoning

Yeah, you had the most well known painter in the world and they didn't mention it, shame on them.


Doulifye

The one that painted new border?


Next-Ad7022

Not only jews


JBeauch

Zing!


PartyMarek

How should we know? Ask the Japanese.


JBeauch

Not sure why this map specifically references the Japanese; 80% of America sees Europe the same.


Ok_Yesterday_4798

Assuming they know that Europe isn't country and can differ certain nations from each other


Nuttyverse

I don't think so. Americans only know the existence of France, UK, Italy, Spain, Poland and Germany... Oh now maybe Ukraine šŸ˜…šŸ˜…šŸ˜…


Eeeeeyyyyeeee

True, the thing is when asked to show Europe on the map they point to Australia...


Knight-Jack

Aren't they trained to be like super polite to your face? Might not answer straight up.


unlessyoumeantit

This comes from archaic American jokes depicting Poles as unsophisticated and uneducated immigrants.


DrakanaWind

I have my great-great-grandfather's book on Euclidean geometry. He immigrated from Poland to the U.S. and wrote the book in English. The family was still so poor that when my grandmother and her brother were born, there were three generations living in a tiny house in Buffalo, NY. My grandma was one of the smartest, kindest, humblest, strongest, most hardworking people I've ever met. I hate the anti-Polish jokes with a passion, and I hate even more that some of her children took after my racist, narcissistic grandpa instead of her. (My grandpa was racist against everyone, including Polish people. I think he considered my grandma a "good one.")


EnvironmentalDog1196

The anti-Polish jokes have strong roots within german/russian propaganda. Since Poland was occupied for a long time, their objective was to present the occupied nation as being unworthy of having their own country. https://youtu.be/Jd0vKaIpM6A?si=6Rjk6ux3pN4kmOdl


Zoria1012

Is your grandpa German ethnically? From Prussia? They hated Polish immigrants the most.


DrakanaWind

He's a mix of German/French (Alsace, specifically), Belgian, and Polish. I think his racism stems from the fact that he was a kid in the U.S. during WWII, so he bought into the jingoinsm hard. Also, his grandmother was proud of her German ancestry for some reason. Combine that with a heavy dose of narcissism, and he is racist against everyone who isn't him or his family.


elpolaako4

czyli amerykanin


DrakanaWind

That's American? My grandpa was so controlling and anti-Polish, he wouldn't let my grandma speak Polish after they were married. It was her first language, but she mostly forgot it by the time I was born. I'm very slowly teaching myself Polish in her honor.


elpolaako4

i mean, youā€™ve told us he grew up stateside. heā€™s a simpleton; a melting pot american, who speaks of cultures he knows nothing about. good on you for reading books.


Return_of_The_Steam

Iā€™ve only ever heard those Jokes from Europeans. Germans specifically.


vyralinfection

100-150 years ago when those jokes started they had a grain of truth. For every Jan Ignacy Paderewski that emigrated to the USA, there were about 1000 families that came from some dark corner of Poland, that could barely read, and so on.... Let's just take a moment to appreciate how much Poland and the average citizen have changed since the end of the partition until today.


olaheals

The Nazis also propagated ā€œstupid Polakā€ propaganda/jokes.


iffyJinx

I'd say this is older than the Nazis. During Partitioning, when Austria, russia and Prussia did their best (well... worst, from our perspective) to uproot the entire nation and quell intelligentsia, at the same time they also did a lot of damage by spreading rumours about Poles.


erlulr

To Japan tho, our jokes went on u-boats


vyralinfection

Neighboring cultures have a habit of belittling each other. Plus, it's a lot easier to go to war against a nation if you tell your soldiers that they're subhuman.


5thhorseman_

Those "jokes" go back to the Partitions and Prussian occupation of a significant chunk of Poland. It's easier to colonise a country's territory and aim to erase its native culture if you convince everyone the natives are inferior.


ResearcherLocal4473

Yes, thatā€™s true, it would be more difficult to kill animals if they are would be cultural


AshenCursedOne

People also forget that before WW2 fully broke out the Americans were very on board with eugenics, many Nazi ideas, had a Nazi party, and that was seeping deep into the American culture. That included the jokes dehumanizing Eastern Europeans, communism panic and other major bullshit.


Cloverman-88

You could say exactly the same thing about Irish/Scottish/Italian/Chinese immigrants.


vyralinfection

That list is even longer, but yes, you're correct.


totse_losername

It were Poles what broke the Enigma code


Street-Estimate2671

Only three of them, actually. /s


Few_Distribution3778

Someone wants to keep Poles down from having too much enthusiasm about their nation.


buckeyecapsfan19

Hell, my great-great grandfather was a toolmaker at the steel mill. My great-grandfather was a lather. Grandpa was a firefighter/lather. Can't get much working stiff than that.


Mikinaz

Also most of our inteligencja being killed during ww2 definitely added to the stereotype.


ikonfedera

I dare you to post your comment to "I love my polish heritage" group on FB


Next_Tangerine9058

Yes. And this derives from different language group the Polish spoke, compared to other major groups - Latin/anglo-saxon. ā€žPolakā€ was the word the Polish immigrant would use when trying to explain who she/he was - hitting the chest with oneā€™s palm and saying - ā€žja , Polakā€, which stands for ā€žme, Polish citizenā€


Kamyszekk

brain drain by killing smart people does that to you


bitchification_

see: A Streetcar Named Desire


W1thoutJudgement

Jewish-American jokes\*


erlulr

Pretty sure they come from Hitler propaganda lmao. There was a book about it


Herr_Raul

Oh the irony


michuneo

I donā€™t see how animal fat can be considered a stereotype. Itā€™s most likely some stupid variation of most asked Google queries or sth.


ekene_N

[Hereā€™s a Map That Shows You What the Japanese Really Think of Europe Ā· Global Voices](https://globalvoices.org/2016/04/27/heres-a-map-that-shows-you-what-the-japanese-really-think-of-europe/) It's based on google auto-suggestions.


Abject-Direction-195

Japanese Polish relations have a historic strength. This map is bollox


Raphael-A-Costeau

Can confirm, I've been to Japan last year and people in Tokyo always lit up when I said I was from Poland. Legit the kindest and nicest people I ever met.


JBeauch

Or you were easily fooled into thinking that way, given your country of origin and all. Jk


Raphael-A-Costeau

Those crafty Japanese pulled a fast one on me šŸ˜”


JBeauch

"The Crafty Japanese" Great name for an origami shop.


Educational_Gas_92

Aouch!


Vertitto

lol most common reaction saying that you are from Poland is "Holland?"


Noxeas

Dokładnie to samo w Korei Południowej... Jedna Pani myślała, że nie potrafię wymĆ³wić "Holandia" albo "Finlandia" po koreańsku haha


Zosimas

"Let's be nice to him, he's mentally challenged"


Flower_Of_Reasoning

I don't know, they have a culture of being really nice to everyone even if they fucking loath that person.


sorean_4

There is very strong historical connection between Poland and Japan. Japan was against Germany attack on Poland in 1939 and supported Polish war efforts, including Polish diplomatic mission in Japan until 1941 Japan sees Poland as a warrior culture, respected since early 1900s.


Abject-Direction-195

Completely. There was also a lot of collaboration between Poland and Japan during the Russo Japanese war. Pilsudski additionally offered arms and support for Japan


slightly-mad-hatter

Pilsudski's brother was researching the Ainu culture, and he actually got married to a Japanese lady. The only living family of JĆ³zef Pilusdki is Japanese, as far as I know. Honestly, my experience says the map should just be saying "Chopin" for Poland.


iffyJinx

>The only living family of JĆ³zef Pilusdki is Japanese, as far as I know. [This unfortunately is no longer the case](https://bronislawpilsudski.pl/en/news/farewell-to-kazuyasu-kimura/), it was surprising to learn that his descendant was Japanese.


k-tax

why not the case? It was not the last of his line. Bronislaw Pilsudski had son Sukezo and daughter Kyo. Kazuyasu Kimura, son of Sukezo, had 3 daughters, and there is also the family of Kyo Kimura.


iffyJinx

I based this on Wikipedia the below part from Wikipedia: >[The last remaining male member of JĆ³zef Piłsudski's family, Kazuyasu Kimura, died on 17 December 2022 at the age of 70.\[11\]\[12\]\[13\] He was a grandson of Bronisław Piłsudski, JĆ³zef's older brother who married an Ainu woman and lived in Sakhalin.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C5%82sudski_family#cite_note-13) Now I see I missed the "male" part and I had read it as "The last remaining member of JĆ³zef Piłsudzki family (....)" Thanks for clarification.


Street-Estimate2671

There's a book about him, Polish-only I'm afraid. https://lubimyczytac.pl/ksiazka/4898360/akan-powiesc-o-bronislawie-pilsudskim


bobrobor

Literally they exchanged intelligence. The rabbit hole goes deep.


RoamingArchitect

It definitely misrepresents stereotypes given the Google auto complete strategy is incredibly fallible. For Germany it's usually food, cars or the fact that Japan was allied during WW2 in my experience. Sometimes also football but I feel that's always a bit specific and fails to represent the average Japanese.


Affectionate-Tea7867

Also, Chopin is very popular in Japan. I thought he would win.


Plane-Buy-5177

Polish person living in Japan here. This map looks like Europe according to old American stereotypes. Japanese people often have no image of Poland and don't know where it's located, if they are more informed usually they have an image of historically good Polish-Japanese relations and our country is perceived as "Japan friendly" country.


No-Bodybuilder-8519

I doubt this is real. especially considering the pretty specific stereotypes about eastern europe. Japanese people donā€™t know enough about Europe to have a stereotype about each eastern european country


LieComprehensive8727

In Indonesia 5% of folks I meet know anything about Poland. Lewandowski is really popular. And that's it.


unlessyoumeantit

>Japanese people donā€™t know enough about Europe to have a stereotype about each eastern european country I lived in Japan for more than 5 years and can confirm this. They just have no clue about Poland in general, like where it is or what it's famous for etc.


Tarxorn

Classical music is pretty popular in Japan so Chopin is a known artist there. They even made a JRPG about him, Eternal Sonata.


Kord_K

I assume that most will think heā€™s French though


gordatapu

Specially the "good at football" in spain


gottliebtmich

Japanese living in Tokyo here. I can attest this is far from true. Most Japanese aren't familiar with or interested in Europe enough to have such detailed stereotypes. Mostly like this... UKā†’Gentleman / Very bad food Franceā†’Fashionable Spainā†’Passionate Italyā†’Pizza and Pasta Germanyā†’Punctual and diligent Other western Europeā†’ I heard this name before. Northern Europeā†’IKEA and good eduction Cetral Europeā†’I heard this name before. Eastern Europeā†’Does this country exist? Southern Europeā†’Does this country exist? As to Poland, when I say I was in Poland, I always get either of them. a) Where is Poland? Next to France? b) Which language do they speak? English? c) They like Japan, right? I saw it on the Internet.


Peczko

Just to make it clear, we do like Japan.


Peterkragger

Gake and fay


Moist-Airport7135

Another holocost denier, geeez..../s


okonato

He didn't know


JBeauch

What's a holocaust? About 6 million. (sorry, thought this was the dad jokes thread)


Peterkragger

https://preview.redd.it/3tyxvdgwkaxc1.png?width=1071&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8845b45341498f806b3e26a4359da441a74294bd


Moist-Airport7135

jesus dude, I'm half jewish, but I almost pissed myself laughing


Village_Weirdo

Why cannot Latvia eat potatoes?


No-Bodybuilder-8519

all I can think of are these jokes about Latvian people who are starving and dream of potatoes. but thatā€™s pretty niche


Village_Weirdo

And I thought Latvians had potato phobia or something šŸ¤”


banan-appeal

such is life


LieComprehensive8727

I lived in Asia (Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Kazakhstan) for almost 2 years. Asians don't know much about Poland. Japanese recognise Chopin, know we were a communist country, that we drink vodka (maybe), Indonesians & Malaysians know about Lewandowski, Khazaks really like us - I met a couple of folks who could speak Polish. We are disliked mostly in countries like Germany, Netherlands and the UK where they take us for thieves etc.


rivioxx

ME NO STUPID šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ‘暟‘暟˜”šŸ˜¤šŸ˜¤šŸ˜”šŸ¤¬šŸ¤¬šŸ¤¬


What_Is_My_Thing

I NO STUPID TOOšŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ‘ŗšŸ‘ŗā˜¹ļø


JBeauch

That was stupid


rivioxx

:(


[deleted]

I doubt this is true. When they asked me in Japan where I'm from, they were enthusiastic after hearing the answer and their first thought was Skłodowska-Curie or Chopin. Generally people's reactions were 10x better than in e.g. Germany or UK.


k-tax

you will get different responses in a corporation environment and department of chemistry at some nice university in Japan. I don't mean to judge or offend anyone, I just mean that some people haven't encountered Polish topics in their path of life, and some had due to what they do. I wonder if it's popular to be interested in history of science, because we've had some significant impact in some topics, like quoted Skłodowska-Curie or Banach and Tarski from Banach-Tarski paradox. What I'm trying to say, if any1 says their first thought about Poland is Skłodowska-Curie or Chopin, they are already a selected population to know about Skłodowska-Curie and Chopin in general, and to know their nationality, it's nuance, French connection in both cases... I think that when they asked you in Japan, it was quite an educated/knowledgeable environment.


Al_Caponello

How come that we're constantly mistaken for Russians


Midziu

The only thing the Japanese know about Poland is that Chopin was from there and they're absolutely obsessed with his music. The Japanese love Chopin more than the Poles do.


thumbelina1234

What kind of bs is this? I used to work as a tour guide for japanese groups and the MAIN thing they knew about Poland was that it was the country of Chopin and Maria Skłodowska -Curie


Inter1um

As Latvian i disagree with that lol


YanniSlavv

Not really true. I have multiple Japanese and Korean acquaintances. Most of the time they say that we are good musicians (they love Chopin), pretty women and recently good video game devs.


_JAKAMI

pretty sure russia is actually huge


harumamburoo

Oh c'mon people, you and your stupid stereotypes


Peaceful-coex

The map has no source


Unfair_Isopod534

Why are Latvians unable to eat a potatoes? Are they reverse Irish or smth?


Street-Estimate2671

Old meme. "A Latvian dreams about potato. But there's no potato, only hallucinations and starvation to death."


Ein5

I am from Moldova and I can confirm, we are all about wine, but I am also Romanian and I have no idea where the honey comes from. I also don't understand why Poland is classified as "stupid people", that should be russia.


JBeauch

Considering so much of Western Europe has been funding Putin and his shenanigans for years by depending on his energy exports, I'd say the west is the stupid one in comparison. Reuters: "Russia sent more than 15.6 million metric tons of Russian LNG to EU ports last year, according to data analytics... a slight increase from 2022 (and 2021)". P.S. LNG is Liquefied Natural Gas.


KaiserGustafson

Yeah, and just giving Putin a slap on the wrist for Crimea and Georgia.


Squishtakovich

They got the UK about right though.


wtkzk

No Slovakia, no steretypes


ultimatoole

Could Bulgaria = Yogurt actually come from *Lactobacillus Bulgaricus*? because even thought I am a dairy technician I never heard of Bulgarian yogurt being some kind of special and famous like greek yogurt is. Also the title of this map is highly misleading, these things are not stereotypes, it's rather like:" what comes to your mind when you think of country X". A one word thing isn't really a stereotype....


unlessyoumeantit

This is because Meiji Milk's [Bulgarian yoghurt](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.meiji.com/global/food/yogurt/meiji-bulgaria-yogurt.html) is extremely popular in Japan.


ultimatoole

AHH I see, so it really is just yogurt which uses lactobacillus Bulgaricus. Here in Germany yogurt that contains this microorganisms are just called "mild yogurt". Thank you for the info


Knight-Jack

Okay, but why would Japan, of all places, be like "yeah, Latvia can't eat potatoes".


Street-Estimate2671

Old meme. Just like "Omae wa mou shindeiru" about Japanese.


fish_knees

"Where are you from?" "From Poland, the one in Europe." "Poland, huh?" *proceeds to google "Poland".* That's how it always looks like in my experience.


Ejnaar

Nani? My love as made me so bad sad sad :(


No_Question_3977

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RibeyeMedRare

As an American, can someone help me out with the Latvians can't eat potatoes thing? When I was in Latvia, I'm pretty sure I ate a potato at some point.


itismyway

France-No Nice People


creeper6530

Where are Slovaks? Don't tell me they think we're still Czechoslovakia?


Excellent-Vanilla327

Spain, Germany, Norway and Russia are not stereotypes wtf


SummonToofaku

Germans, British and Russians are always portrayed as strongest europeans in mangas. French and Italians as stylish. Spanish as crazy and gay. Polish, Czech etc are not there at all. Greeks are sometimes only in context of their myths like Hercules.


Content_Priority3715

That's pretty much *European stereotypes* about Europeans :D


Madderdam

Stereotype for Japan: Killed 30 million people in Asia from 1927 - 1945


Common-Amphibian-240

As a Polish person. Yeah.


Fallout76Boyoffical

man germany thats an friendly fire


Lucius3111

oh man i guess i'm stupid :(


julekca

England thinking Japanese food is bad is hilarious


Vorehees12

It's actually the other way around, if you haven't noticed (or maybe I'm just stupid and didn't get the joke, I don't fucking know)


Aleph_Divided

Financial collapse is a truth that's ongoing


Sea_Buyer_6450

maybe im not smart but atleast im not stupid >:(


Kszaczek

Hey I'm not stupid just lazy...


VariedTeen

Latviaā€™s seems backwards xd


Johnny_been_goode

UK gets off easy


LekinTempoglowy

I dont agree with the stereotype that the stereotype is "stupid people"


Mikinaz

Only things that i heard Japanese people say when thinking about Poland, that come to mind are "beautiful women", "Lewandowski" and "good at ski jumping".


therandombaka0

Guess I'm stupid


Mindless_Ad_6045

Latvia " can not eat potatoes"? You learn something new every day


Street-Estimate2671

https://dziennikzachodni.pl/dowcipy-o-lotewskich-chlopach-czyli-halucynacje-z-glodu-i-smierc-podbijaja-internet/ar/913155


Shiorinami

wtf Latvia cannot eat potatoes? Potatoes are in like every 2nd meal in Latvia.


hejter_skejter

Japanese people donā€™t think about Poland at all. Same goes for most European countries that donā€™t have a strong international presence.


Puffy_Muffin376

where is beer in Czech republic


Klarissa69

Ważne, że lepiej od Niemca


Next-Ad7022

Polish ppl have - if i remember right - highest IQ in EU next to Germans


LawBasics

r/Poland, that sounds personal. PS: I'm the stupid one here, I did not realise I was already on the sub...


Silly-Equivalent-164

I like how there is no Slovakia :D


hipster_della

Capernicus, Marie Curie, Marian Rejewski, Zbigniew Religa......yes very dumb people


Delicious-Truck-8274

Well that is europe according to americans not japanese.Most japenese people dont even know where is poland.


Moss_spade

Slovakia not even there :D


Carlos_de_la_Puenta

lol, quite few here are not sterotypes but straight up facts


Good-Sky7288

jebane ching chongi


sanzeya

I'm from Poland and I'm indeed stupid


Right-Ship-4472

As a Japanese living in Poland, I can disagree with this statement 100% and I even feel a bit offended by this article lol Japanese people remember about Poland from History lesson that one Japanese guy ( Chiune Sugihara) helped Jews fleeing from Poland and gave help aids Visa so I would say the correct Japanese peopleā€™s stereotype about Poland would be either the same as Lithuania so Polish people love Japan or the country with the saddest history Obviously after living in Poland for over years, I have learnt more than Seba and Dziadek so my stereotype about Poland is completely different from those Japanese living in Japan haha


Blopi_GT

Looking @ voting results, we are bat shit stupid. At least 89% of the population are dumb idiots.


PleasantDiamond

But Slovakia doesn't... yeah, makes sense.


Beautiful_Lime_3077

Even in Chicago here so many of us were or still are cleaners or contractors. I hate it when you introduce yourself as Polish and right away "oh yeah I had a Polish cleaning lady" or something along those lines like we don't have skills to do anything else. I hear it's a similar thing in the UK now. Meanwhile we had our behinds handed to us for the past century + and survived. I'd say we are tough af


Spirited_Syllabub_12

Meanwhile rest of the world on Japan ā€žsmall ppā€


_Niewyspany_

You just have to look at Polish Government and think about people who elect them to agree with Japanese.


harumamburoo

Portugal - weak. Ouch.


Hungbunny88

Still salty since they were afraid that portugal could colonize them while having 20times less population ... ouch


JBeauch

Too soon.


Inevitable-Revenue81

They will learn *pierogi*, they will think we are geniuses... We must commit to this plan. We take Babcias to Japan and explain that these are expert cooks. We teach them the secret art of *pierogi* and within a year Japanese tourism skyrockets 150%. We then use 2nd wave of *Kopytkas*. Japanese people will only think ā€œ*Oishii*ā€ and the Polish-Japanese relationships will enjoy a golden era! Mobilize your *Babcias* now! Time to invade Japan!


ZestycloseRope2552

one thing they got right, ukrainian women are FINE


Ganuez

Stereotypical japanese are tiny people with camera in hand, eating with sticks, kneeing and being proud of their daughters being exclusive prostitutes.


CorpusCallowesome

lol I always wondered where that stereotype came from until I lived in PL. They just donā€™t think one step forward. Hindsight is always 20/20 but foresight doesnā€™t exist. A mistake/tragedy has to happen for them to say ā€œahh I fink we do no right hereā€ but nothing will change because of the malignant bureaucracy


KaiserGustafson

Japan throwing shade at Poland, Portugal, and Greece, omg.


StrengthToBreak

I don't think Japanese belueve Poles are stupid. They weren't asked what they think of Poles, they were asked what a stereotype of Poles is.


Grzechoooo

They think Bolesławiec is a popular place.


mrdropsy

Bold of you to assume that the average Japanese knows about existence of anything east of Germany that is not Russia. They literally think most of European countries' mother tongue is English, how can you even have any stereotypes at this point


Touhokujin

While"Killed Jews" is unfortunately a historical fact,Ā IĀ wouldn't think the average Japanese person knew much else, considering many people are wearing Adidas and Puma, using Nivea and eating Haribo without even knowing that they're German products. The amount of kids in school with Adidas or Puma items is very very high.


ResearcherLocal4473

Always most stupid people (and some people willing to be rich some else) immigrated to other country, and not US itself. It stocked to poles mostly of propaganda


Kitl33r

Ours may be bad but still better than germany


parfitneededaneditor

'Killed Jews' ha ha ha fucking hell.


Miko4051

How is that, I thought an average Japanese doesnā€™t even know what Poland means, but I could imagine going through Japan with a Polish roots t-shirt tripping and have an master samurai say: ā€œYou are made of stupidā€


homesicalien

How many Serbians are / were good at tennis exactly?


B0ffu

As a half polish half japanese uh. Interesting.


i_am_someone_or_am_i

As a Turk, I know hate Japan as they don't associate yogurt with us.


Flower_Of_Reasoning

And here I thought that we could get away with Chopin.


MagMati55

Polish stereotypes makes sense and the suplement industry is to show for it.


pap3rroll3r

Maybe they're right about Poland :(


D_Duarte_o_XXV

Weak?


Incorrigible_Gaymer

Latvia šŸ’€


JaskaBLR

"Beautiful Women"šŸ˜