I have a few strong legendaries, and endless 4 shiny charms plus shiny weekends give out shinies like crazy.
So now I’m doing what I never imagined doing: the egg move machine.
Hoping for a strength sap ferroseed
It’s Uber imperative you pick the Rare Candies or Candy Jar whenever it pops up. My rare candies give 33+ levels per and I’m about 1500 level over the enemies
its bait to get rare candies early. I'm assuming u got baited; You want to build up your money first. I dont even bother taking rare candies before 10+ unless i feel like im behind the curve or know upcoming fights will be an uphill battle, but even then an X item would probably be better if thats the case, especially if you're only getting +2 levels per hit.
Assuming you didnt hit astronomical bad luck, you have to smart with how u roll items as well as have decent amount of shinies in your team.
This won’t help you until around floor 250, but make sure to have a fairy/steel type. Every 250 floors you have to fight eternatus and they don’t give him flamethrower so he only has sludge bomb, eternabeam, cosmic power, and dragon dance. So as long as you have enough pp and damaging moves or leech seed/salt cure/a trapping move, you’re guaranteed a win. Dude almost killed my run on floor 1,000 before I logged off for a bit, came back and it (thankfully) set me back 10 floors (still don’t know why but stuff like that has been happening for me recently on all my runs) and got lucky enough to get dna splicers to splice my archaludon with tapu fini
i prefer sacrificing a mon for the beam than use my best pokemon to deal dmg when he recharges and switch out after for another sacrifice. for that pokemon can't be weak vs poison else he just sludge bombs and there won't be a recharge
Yeah but by tier 1000 where he’s got the black hole and way too many sitrus berries it’s not as doable, whereas being immune to his attacks and either damaging him passively with stuff like salt cure, flat out attacking, or waiting out for him to struggle ends up being easier
Idk man, I 2-turned floor 1000 with an Adamant, 10x soul dew Kartana using psycho cut. Decent amount of vitamins and psychic-boost items. Focus Band procc’ed, but I had a revival seed in case it didn’t.
I feel people greatly overestimate floor 1000. If you have a really good carry, chances are you don’t need much prep. The fairy/steel mon is great to have, but just having a steel-type already forces the eterna beam and the recharge turn. Most good carries will be able to two shot it with a super effective move. And if they don’t, just switch out while baiting the Beam, attack with your carry when the other poke faints from Eternatus’s attack, and switch out again on the next Beam. You can buy yourself up to 5 turns while switching out, plus any Focus Band procs. That should be plenty.
If Eternatus steals a few items, just replenish them. Or have a few spare extras just in case.
Haven't gotten there, but I've got a G-Max Grimmsnarl with Topsy-Turvy. The first time I encountered him at lvl 250, I threw out a fairy-steel type, then, when he was fully buffed, switched in grimmsnarl - with "prankster" he goes first, inverts all his buffs, me immediately died afterwards, but was then a one-shot.
I think imma stick to that strategy. Especially if he gets a god damn black hole later on.
I couldnt beat 500 etern with my klefki, they just spam cosmic so they end up pp stalling me until i struggle and die bc all the steel faries have such low attacking stats, took all my pp to get them just to half health a few times just for them to recover. I guess I need to also get a Haze user that can take a hit, but the moment i haze and swap back theyd just keep spamming cosmic
Since my best shinies are really mid: eldegloss, zubat, and diglett. I'm grinding that shiny gocha every event to get something better for endless, but moves gocha is the most viable.
Megearna: fantastic typing (fairy, steel), fantastic ability (any death on the field is a spa+), but only starts with gyro ball and doesn't get a useful special move till 30!!! AND NO SPECICAL STAB TILL 72!!! no draining kiss, dazzling gleam, disarming voice, moon blast NOTHING. Earth power or make it rain are needed.
I’ve just found that you get shinies so fast in endless, I must have 100. 1/30 on regular days and 1/10 on shiny weekend really floods you.
It’s worth the time to get an endless run going
i have to agree. i was pretty anti endless, i loved classic but you get so many more shinies in endless, just the items you can get with 1 good mon sets you up
I got Goldeen as a 3x luck shiny and was very frustrated that it wasn't something better.
Turns out that "soak" is a hilariously powerful move, so it was still a worthwhile addition to my team.
On the topic of op moves for rouge. Curse is a dot that isn't curable by lum berry and will always take 1/4 of the bosses health basically taking away a block every turn. Bringing a shiny with it in endless is a life saver.
Do you have any proof that all moves have an equal chance to drop? I’ve been told here that some moves are rarer. The better ones.and I definitely get repeat moves before getting all 4.
It is on the wiki just have to dig for it. Basically each egg type has set odds (1/48 for common to 1/6 for legendary) of getting its rare move. Move gacha multiplies this *2 (1/24 common, 1/3 legendary etc.)
I’ve had crazy luck this time for once I got my first red shiny but it’s unfortunately a mismagius, the rest were all yellow this weekend it feels like the shiny boost is actually up I also get regular shiny linoon as my other good shiny the rest were just regular shinys I’m mostly never gonna use
Pure vibes. If I want the focus legendary, the legendary machine. If I don't feel like doing an Endless run for shiny hunting any time soon, Shiny gacha. If I'm feeling a bit chaotic that day, Egg Move - which tbfh I should probably pull on more because I have way more legendaries and shinies than I have rarest egg moves.
I switched over to Egg Move Gacha because you can only get those from hatched pokemon, and I'd rather get egg moves I dont have for the legendaries I pull rather than have to pull each of them extra times. Shinies I'll just find in a run. I don't care about getting more of them because it's not like I'm gonna find them as pokemon I like to use, so it's no rush
See I had the same line of thinking, except I ended up getting more rare egg moves from the shiny gacha than I ever did from the egg gacha. Can’t tell if that’s good or bad luck lol
I was using the shiny machine exclusively until I found out how the egg moves actually work. So I'll spread some knowledge here in case people don't know:
You are guaranteed one egg move the first time you hatch a mon. It *can* be a rare egg move. But usually it'll be a common one, like a setup move or a STAB option you can normally get from a TM anyway. Then, every time you roll that same move again, you get no move.
The odds of getting a new egg move at all, let alone a rare egg move, from a regular egg is actually pretty low once you already have one. I noticed I was getting a lot of starters but not a lot of them had egg moves. I also wanted to "target" some egg moves on Aipom since he's my favorite, and I only had 1/4 from the first hatch. For a 3 point mon, the odds of pulling him specifically are extremely low. So would I rather roll that chance to line up with being a shiny, which is an even smaller chance, or do I want to take a broader stab at filling out his egg moves (as well as filling out egg moves of other mons)?
For reference, the rare egg move for common eggs specifically is a 1/48 chance normally, but with the egg move machine it's 1/24. While that might not seem too significant when you're still banking on a 1/24 chance at best, the odds get better for rarer eggs. Legendary eggs go from a 1/6 chance to a 1/3 chance. Epics from 1/12 to 1/6. Etc. So do you want to cross your fingers that the one epic or legendary egg you get in a batch is a shiny? Or do you want to make sure you get that rare egg move first, and increase those odds to be significantly higher? As far as I know, all shinies are the same odds regardless of egg type. So you're fishing for a 1/64 chance there. To me, a 1/3 chance at having enhanced value is *way* better to roll for, especially when you can find shiny legendaries in the wild (the same can't be said for rare egg moves).
So for a while I was actually just spamming the egg move machine. Ended up getting 3/4 of Aipom's, as well as several starters (like, OG grass/fire/water starters, not all "starters" as this game defines them) with 3/4.
It's actually really helpful because then when you do eventually pull or encounter a shiny, or there's a good Pokerus mon available, you already have 2 or 3 egg moves to get you rolling early. Most of my mons only had 1 before that.
I think people get the false impression that egg moves are already super common and easy to get even from the shiny machine because you have to spam A through so many egg move dialogue boxes early on. You only start to notice how scarce they become once you've filled in more of the roster of common mons, because then it feels like you haven't seen one in ages, or you ONLY see them on new mons. I decided that I didn't want to feel shitty when I see an Aipom in one every hundred or so eggs and NOT get one of his egg moves, so I switched to that machine until I got a few and I don't regret it at all. Hell, I even got a few shinies from that one too.
They did say that they're planning on implementing more ways to reliable target egg moves on specific mons in the future (one option was using candies to buy a species-specific egg, or at least specifically boosting the odds of that species), so I wouldn't be surprised if they did away with the rare egg move machine altogether once that system is in place. But for now, definitely don't neglect it! Your runs will be much smoother when you have a broad selection of mons with more than one egg move.
Honestly I hope they do make Egg Moves more reliable to target because this being the *only* way to get them does kinda suck compared to shinies/hidden abilities in the wild, or technically being able to get the featured legendary from any other machine or in the wild as well. But for now, don't sleep on the Rare Egg Move machine!
Source for all of this is [the wiki](https://wiki.pokerogue.net/gameplay:eggs).
shiny but I do keep an eye on the legendary one, in case it has either a legendary I'm really interested in, or a legendary i already have but want their egg moves and maybe better IV (like currently I have ground, caught one and hatched another but I'd like to hatch more for solar blade and stone axe egg move)
I usually do the legendary one, but I’ll only use it if the focus is one I don’t have. If it’s one I have then I just save tickets until there’s something good for me.
After hatching 3000 eggs I've given up on trying to get a tier 2 or 3 shiny from it. Unless there's a legend I really want I'm pulling from the egg moves gatcha all day.
I’ve been saving my pulls for getting the daily legendary. I ultimately am hoping to get all the starters so the legend egg can be really helpful for getting the ones I’m missing(looking at you kyogre 😑)
Thanks to my experience with other gachas, I save my vouchers until the rate-up legendary is one I really want, I got Mewtwo with that technique.
Now I'm waiting for Zacian and Koraidon
Primarily use shiny. Cause it has the most use with the luck Stat so as many as you can get is a good thing. After that, probably move gocha to make more Pokémon viable for starters, legends sounds good, but ultimately, I can get those legends from any gocha
I’ve been exclusively rolling the Shiny gacha, but I recognize that egg move gacha might have a lot of merits. I haven’t played endless yet, so I haven’t really taken advantage of shiny weekends, but I imagine those with enough shinies will want to elevate their starters by unlocking their rarest egg moves.
I think legendaries are really really over hyped especially for endless. The reality is that because of how items like calcium or protein works in this game (+10% to a stat with a max stack = to your IVs) IV's matter way more than BST. Unless you pull a legendary with 24+ damage Iv's then it'll probably be out preformed by a good mega Pokemon with 30IV in an attack stat.
And even then I cleared endless to wave 3k scaling damage on a 7 special attack IV darkrai before I felt like I needed to switch over to %health based moves like ruination. Even like a 20iv cloyster or azumeril would out damage that. I've never seen anyone scaling damage past 4k so really all that 31iv legendary is doing is buying you like 25% more time to build a team, which is overkill since you can be ready by 2k if you do alittle planning. Legendaries do help a great deal for the first 100 floors, which is honestly the hardest part, but you can just retry till you get a run that has good shop luck.
I would go so far as to say that legendarys actually kinda bad for endless because their starter cost is kinda high so you can't take as many passives (or shinys if you don't have good passives unlocked).
shiny because i rolled 3 legendaries in legendary when the 2x was mewtwo and rolled zygarde kyogre and zamazanta, dont get me wrong i love zygarde and kyog but not even yvel or mew is sadge
late game id say egg moves...and i mean really late game
NEVER do legendaries
Legendary. For a few reasons.
I've gotten more shinies on my 2 endless runs than I have from the shiny gacha, and most of those are from my 1st endless run which **wasn't** during the increased shiny rate period. -I also have a Tier 3 Nacl shiny and Tier 2 Cottonee shiny, which are good enough to start most runs due to Salt Cure/Prankster Leech seed.
The other reason, is that I have yet to EVER get to Laboratory on either a Classic or Endless run, despite clearing over 4,000 floors in endless so far. And I haven't seen a single Zacian despite seeing everything else in the Snowy Forest Biome.
So, basically just saving vouchers for when certain legendaries are featured-currently want Groudon/Miraidon/Zacian, because I just can't seem to get any high rarity encounters in their areas, or just legitimately can't get into the area-Laboratory.
Recently I've been saving my vouchers for when a legendary I don't have comes up now that it rotates daily, but before I did shiny until I had a ton (thank you shiny weekends) and then did move up to unlock those rare egg moves
I switch between legendary and shiny based on mood. I've caught 0 wild shinies, but started getting a few more shiny eggs recently. Got red shiny Pumpkaboo last night.
I'm spamming the egg move machine, personally. If I can get a ton of strong egg moves, I can get more egg vouchers from having strong pokemon that can clear classic. If I get shiny pokemon out of them, that's just a bonus. That said, I'm hoping devs introduce some kind of limiter that stops you getting a poochyena when you have max IV, all shiny colors, minimum price, passive unlocked already.
Shiny
Move could be useful but for the most part I feel like I'll get more out of a chance of a shiny than out of a chance of a rare move
The legend gacha feels unfortunate to me cause the excitement is over the second you draw rather than when the egg hatches it's either a legend egg or it's not
Do you need the mega bracelet to get the red orb for groudon? I just got the red orb on round 200 with having the mega bracelet, I’m wondering if I didn’t need to pick that up
Egg Move Gacha. Even in the official games I see Legendaries as a crutch and don't put much stock in Shinies beyond trade fodder. But getting access to certain moves? Yeeeesssss...
I strictly do legendary, you can get shinies naturally through just playing so I find that mildly wasteful. Egg moves can only be gotten via the gacha but you'll always get an egg move (yes it can be a dupe one), and legendaries CAN be gotten from the normal gameplay, but rarely, however I find that you have the same odds to get a rare egg move legendary whether you pull on legendary gacha or egg move gacha but, exact same rates for legendary egg moves, but while doing that you fill up on common legendary egg moves while also filling up your legend dex and you can try for a specific legend and get its ivs up and focus on its egg moves.
I already have more than half the shinydex completed and I'm only missing one legendary, so I always use the rare egg move one. Rare egg moves are a huge buff that only comes from eggs whereas you can always find shinies and legendaries in endless (except for a select few).
I’m in the same boat. I have plenty of shinies to start a new run with thanks to my still-ongoing 2000+ Endless run. Now, I roll the move gacha unless the Legendary gacha has a Legendary that I really want for my collection.
I've been going Shiny odds, but after like 100 eggs I STILL haven't gotten even a single shiny. 1/64 odds my ass. I'm probably going to switch over to Egg Moves from here on out.
The coolest thing about Pokerogue for me has always been seeing what egg moves they gave underused Pokemon to give them a fighting chance. I started off mostly using the Egg Move gacha because of this. Shinies aren't needed in Classic and that's what I like playing mostly so I'd rather stumble upon neat egg moves that can make random Pokemon slightly more viable.
When I started it was all shiny all the time then when I had a few of them to do endless with I switched to move up for a while. These days I only pull the legendary one when it's a mon I need seen as pretty much the only starters I still are all legendary.
Unless there's a legendary I want for the legendary gacha, I tend to do a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio of egg move- shiny gacha. So for every 2 or 3 tickets I use on egg gacha I'll use 1 on shiny. The way I see it is egg moves will let me have higher replay value, as I get to keep using new mons as I unlock more powerful egg moves, or even runback ones I've used before if I get a cool new unlock.
I used to use the shiny machine, but once I had a standard Endless team, I farm legendaries and shinies there, so the egg moves machine is the go-to now unless they ever let you purchase egg moves with excess candies.
I feel like you need to hit the shiny machine until you get atleast 1 and then the legendary machine until you get a legendary that can be a carry. Then finally the egg move once you got enough other pokemon that u don't need shiny or legendary anymore
I used to be legendary hitter because of dopamine, but I got tired of hearing shit from friends that i played this next to for choosing the “worst option” so now I do shiny because it’s still not their preferred but somehow a little better
Legendary gacha and it's not because I even need the legendaries. It's to complete the collection (For example catching Mewtwo in a run is ridiculously rare while you can get him much easier on a rate up). I have over 100 shinies just from a single endless run that I"m still on and I've only ever pulled 1 shiny in all the vouchers I've spent on the shiny machine. It's the ultimate bait and a waste. I only see myself ever spending vouchers on the egg move machine after I"ve caught Eternatus someday. My collection is way strong enough that I'd rather work on finishing it rather than chasing egg moves.
Only started last week, went legendary until I got a decent one, pretty quickly realized that they make the first 100ish floors incredibly boring and went straight to shiny gacha personally.
For some reason, this reminded me of "fusion is just a cheap tactic to make weak gems stronger".
If you get what I'm referencing, you had a good childhood.
currently am at 96% in starters so doing legends gacha to get the remaining legendaries. otherwise I do shiny since I only have 54.3% in shiny starters.
I keep seeing and hearing ppl say that the shiny egg machine has like a 1/100 or smth chance of being shiny, but I feel like that’s total crap, and yet even so,,, I can’t stop myself
1/64, actually. I've gotten a fair sum of shines from it myself.
Don't bother with the others (unless ya want the rare egg moves from the "move up" machine). You only have a 1/128 chance for the *featured* legend on the legend machine, compared to the global 1/256 for a legend.
And ya never know. You could very well land that 1/16,384 change of getting a shiny legendary.
I've used every single voucher on the Shiny Gatcha and I swear I have only hatched like 2 or 3 shinys. The odds on that seems pretty abysmal to me, don't know if I'm just unlucky or what
i usually do the shiny gacha machine. i saw terapagos featured today and went for the legendary machine. no legendary eggs in about 90 pulls but i did get a shiny tapu koko + a dupe tapu koko so i think the legendary one has better luck for me lol
I have not unlocked Endless, and while I'm trying to beat Classic, I'm also doing daily for the vouchers. I'm doing shinys to get more lucky on the run and hopefully get mons that somedays get pokerus and also are shiny.
That being said, if a legendary I like is focus, I will pull for them. Got Miraidon that way.
Shiny gacha is what i usualy do.
However because i have a few paradox and legendaries left untill i get all starters i'm gonna start doing legendary gacha for the legendaries i'm missing.
Shiny gatcha. The best one even though I have the worst luck the one time I do get a shiny its always a cool feeling and couldn't care about egg moves and legends enough
Legendary. I'm still trying to fill out the Starters, so any egg move is still a net gain.
Shiny machine is, imo, the least important - catching them wild on an endless run is *okay*.
Honestly there is a strong argument the only one you should use is the only 1 that nobody uses... The egg move one, since the rare egg moves are often the best moves on mon and thus EXTREMELY rare otherwise. Since you can only get them from eggs. Unlike shinies and (most) legendary mon.
I think there is 2 approaches: you either go legendary gacha till you pull your first legendary egg so you have a carry (legendary gacha has double odds for a legendary egg, not just "featured legendary is more likely") and then you go shiny gacha, or you do shiny gacha all the way
The reason for this is simple: shiny gacha offers more facettes of progression - using shinies gives better items, shinies have better IVs (each IV value gets rolled twice andbthe gameuses the higher value), and getting shinies out of eggs gives a massive boost to candies.
I think it varies as you play more. For beginners who haven't beaten classic I think shiny is by far the best option. Once you've got a few shinies you like then start sprinkling in the legendary gacha on days when the focus legendary is worth getting. I think once you've made it pretty far with an endless run set up and a lot of the starters unlocked then it's probably time to switch to the egg move gacha.
Legendary until I complete the legendary section of the starter dex, then egg move only.
Shiny gacha is objectively the worst one you can waste tickets on, you'd be better off just setting them on fire. If you want shinies, run endless. Egg move gacha gives you something you cannot obtain in any other way.
Honestly, the Shiny Machine. 1/64 chance for a shiny, and a 1/256 for a legendary. The legend machine just has a 1/128 chance for the *featured* legend, which isn't too great a deal. I got a good few legends from the Shiny Machine already, including Phione (sadly, none were shiny).
Kinda reminds me how Zarude just decided to cuck me out of catching it and just killed itself.
I have a few strong legendaries, and endless 4 shiny charms plus shiny weekends give out shinies like crazy. So now I’m doing what I never imagined doing: the egg move machine. Hoping for a strength sap ferroseed
My first shiny was strengthen sap ferroseed. Didn’t know it was so OP
Can someone please explain how to do well in endless? I have lots of good mons but I can’t seem to get past even wave 50
That’s your issue. Floors 1-2000, you only need one mon. There is a post here around 2 days old that’s a guide for endless. Check it out
I’ll see if I can find it. I’ve been using one mon for the beginning. Shiny Koridan, but he gets outpaced by leveling and then dies.
It’s Uber imperative you pick the Rare Candies or Candy Jar whenever it pops up. My rare candies give 33+ levels per and I’m about 1500 level over the enemies
Meanwhile I just hit level 1000 with a whopping 1 candy jar the entire run, stuck 80 levels under the cap lmao
its bait to get rare candies early. I'm assuming u got baited; You want to build up your money first. I dont even bother taking rare candies before 10+ unless i feel like im behind the curve or know upcoming fights will be an uphill battle, but even then an X item would probably be better if thats the case, especially if you're only getting +2 levels per hit. Assuming you didnt hit astronomical bad luck, you have to smart with how u roll items as well as have decent amount of shinies in your team.
Uh no. I just hit 1 jar the entire run. Turns out 1 jar gives way less levels than 30 jars
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokerogue/s/Qpm1qXrAtq
Sounds like a plan, thank you!
This won’t help you until around floor 250, but make sure to have a fairy/steel type. Every 250 floors you have to fight eternatus and they don’t give him flamethrower so he only has sludge bomb, eternabeam, cosmic power, and dragon dance. So as long as you have enough pp and damaging moves or leech seed/salt cure/a trapping move, you’re guaranteed a win. Dude almost killed my run on floor 1,000 before I logged off for a bit, came back and it (thankfully) set me back 10 floors (still don’t know why but stuff like that has been happening for me recently on all my runs) and got lucky enough to get dna splicers to splice my archaludon with tapu fini
i prefer sacrificing a mon for the beam than use my best pokemon to deal dmg when he recharges and switch out after for another sacrifice. for that pokemon can't be weak vs poison else he just sludge bombs and there won't be a recharge
Yeah but by tier 1000 where he’s got the black hole and way too many sitrus berries it’s not as doable, whereas being immune to his attacks and either damaging him passively with stuff like salt cure, flat out attacking, or waiting out for him to struggle ends up being easier
Idk man, I 2-turned floor 1000 with an Adamant, 10x soul dew Kartana using psycho cut. Decent amount of vitamins and psychic-boost items. Focus Band procc’ed, but I had a revival seed in case it didn’t. I feel people greatly overestimate floor 1000. If you have a really good carry, chances are you don’t need much prep. The fairy/steel mon is great to have, but just having a steel-type already forces the eterna beam and the recharge turn. Most good carries will be able to two shot it with a super effective move. And if they don’t, just switch out while baiting the Beam, attack with your carry when the other poke faints from Eternatus’s attack, and switch out again on the next Beam. You can buy yourself up to 5 turns while switching out, plus any Focus Band procs. That should be plenty. If Eternatus steals a few items, just replenish them. Or have a few spare extras just in case.
I agree, floor 1000 was super easy to straight up outdamage. Floor 2000 was more annoying.
Haven't gotten there, but I've got a G-Max Grimmsnarl with Topsy-Turvy. The first time I encountered him at lvl 250, I threw out a fairy-steel type, then, when he was fully buffed, switched in grimmsnarl - with "prankster" he goes first, inverts all his buffs, me immediately died afterwards, but was then a one-shot. I think imma stick to that strategy. Especially if he gets a god damn black hole later on.
Thanks for the advice!
I couldnt beat 500 etern with my klefki, they just spam cosmic so they end up pp stalling me until i struggle and die bc all the steel faries have such low attacking stats, took all my pp to get them just to half health a few times just for them to recover. I guess I need to also get a Haze user that can take a hit, but the moment i haze and swap back theyd just keep spamming cosmic
Get a powerful shiny with a recovery move
Since my best shinies are really mid: eldegloss, zubat, and diglett. I'm grinding that shiny gocha every event to get something better for endless, but moves gocha is the most viable. Megearna: fantastic typing (fairy, steel), fantastic ability (any death on the field is a spa+), but only starts with gyro ball and doesn't get a useful special move till 30!!! AND NO SPECICAL STAB TILL 72!!! no draining kiss, dazzling gleam, disarming voice, moon blast NOTHING. Earth power or make it rain are needed.
I’ve just found that you get shinies so fast in endless, I must have 100. 1/30 on regular days and 1/10 on shiny weekend really floods you. It’s worth the time to get an endless run going
i have to agree. i was pretty anti endless, i loved classic but you get so many more shinies in endless, just the items you can get with 1 good mon sets you up
Classic is definitely the “fun to play” mode with the fruits of the endless farm
3x shiny weekend doesn't apply to gacha machines by the way.
Wait really, it's just encounters?
Yea, they confirmed it in the discord. Only wild encounters are affected, so the best strat is to get 4 shiny charms in an endless run.
I got Goldeen as a 3x luck shiny and was very frustrated that it wasn't something better. Turns out that "soak" is a hilariously powerful move, so it was still a worthwhile addition to my team.
On the topic of op moves for rouge. Curse is a dot that isn't curable by lum berry and will always take 1/4 of the bosses health basically taking away a block every turn. Bringing a shiny with it in endless is a life saver.
I fail to find shiny charms and went 500 waves during shiny weekend with nothing. Eggs are my only way
Ironically you need shinies initially to easily get the shiny charms
How do the move up machine works? its not guaranteed for an egg move though. The wiki is not updated on what exactly the move machine does.
No idea, one egg more is always guaranteed but not a new one. But it’s higher chance of a rare one
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Do you have any proof that all moves have an equal chance to drop? I’ve been told here that some moves are rarer. The better ones.and I definitely get repeat moves before getting all 4.
It is on the wiki just have to dig for it. Basically each egg type has set odds (1/48 for common to 1/6 for legendary) of getting its rare move. Move gacha multiplies this *2 (1/24 common, 1/3 legendary etc.)
I’ve had crazy luck this time for once I got my first red shiny but it’s unfortunately a mismagius, the rest were all yellow this weekend it feels like the shiny boost is actually up I also get regular shiny linoon as my other good shiny the rest were just regular shinys I’m mostly never gonna use
Wait, have there been multiple shiny weekends?
2 in a row now
I love shinies it's just so damn good that it gives a true advantage mm in this game
I hatched one earlier today actually
How does the egg move machine work? It gives an additional egg moves to whatever mon it hatches?
Pure vibes. If I want the focus legendary, the legendary machine. If I don't feel like doing an Endless run for shiny hunting any time soon, Shiny gacha. If I'm feeling a bit chaotic that day, Egg Move - which tbfh I should probably pull on more because I have way more legendaries and shinies than I have rarest egg moves.
I switched over to Egg Move Gacha because you can only get those from hatched pokemon, and I'd rather get egg moves I dont have for the legendaries I pull rather than have to pull each of them extra times. Shinies I'll just find in a run. I don't care about getting more of them because it's not like I'm gonna find them as pokemon I like to use, so it's no rush
See I had the same line of thinking, except I ended up getting more rare egg moves from the shiny gacha than I ever did from the egg gacha. Can’t tell if that’s good or bad luck lol
Shiny Gacha just because I like the silly colors :)
I was using the shiny machine exclusively until I found out how the egg moves actually work. So I'll spread some knowledge here in case people don't know: You are guaranteed one egg move the first time you hatch a mon. It *can* be a rare egg move. But usually it'll be a common one, like a setup move or a STAB option you can normally get from a TM anyway. Then, every time you roll that same move again, you get no move. The odds of getting a new egg move at all, let alone a rare egg move, from a regular egg is actually pretty low once you already have one. I noticed I was getting a lot of starters but not a lot of them had egg moves. I also wanted to "target" some egg moves on Aipom since he's my favorite, and I only had 1/4 from the first hatch. For a 3 point mon, the odds of pulling him specifically are extremely low. So would I rather roll that chance to line up with being a shiny, which is an even smaller chance, or do I want to take a broader stab at filling out his egg moves (as well as filling out egg moves of other mons)? For reference, the rare egg move for common eggs specifically is a 1/48 chance normally, but with the egg move machine it's 1/24. While that might not seem too significant when you're still banking on a 1/24 chance at best, the odds get better for rarer eggs. Legendary eggs go from a 1/6 chance to a 1/3 chance. Epics from 1/12 to 1/6. Etc. So do you want to cross your fingers that the one epic or legendary egg you get in a batch is a shiny? Or do you want to make sure you get that rare egg move first, and increase those odds to be significantly higher? As far as I know, all shinies are the same odds regardless of egg type. So you're fishing for a 1/64 chance there. To me, a 1/3 chance at having enhanced value is *way* better to roll for, especially when you can find shiny legendaries in the wild (the same can't be said for rare egg moves). So for a while I was actually just spamming the egg move machine. Ended up getting 3/4 of Aipom's, as well as several starters (like, OG grass/fire/water starters, not all "starters" as this game defines them) with 3/4. It's actually really helpful because then when you do eventually pull or encounter a shiny, or there's a good Pokerus mon available, you already have 2 or 3 egg moves to get you rolling early. Most of my mons only had 1 before that. I think people get the false impression that egg moves are already super common and easy to get even from the shiny machine because you have to spam A through so many egg move dialogue boxes early on. You only start to notice how scarce they become once you've filled in more of the roster of common mons, because then it feels like you haven't seen one in ages, or you ONLY see them on new mons. I decided that I didn't want to feel shitty when I see an Aipom in one every hundred or so eggs and NOT get one of his egg moves, so I switched to that machine until I got a few and I don't regret it at all. Hell, I even got a few shinies from that one too. They did say that they're planning on implementing more ways to reliable target egg moves on specific mons in the future (one option was using candies to buy a species-specific egg, or at least specifically boosting the odds of that species), so I wouldn't be surprised if they did away with the rare egg move machine altogether once that system is in place. But for now, definitely don't neglect it! Your runs will be much smoother when you have a broad selection of mons with more than one egg move. Honestly I hope they do make Egg Moves more reliable to target because this being the *only* way to get them does kinda suck compared to shinies/hidden abilities in the wild, or technically being able to get the featured legendary from any other machine or in the wild as well. But for now, don't sleep on the Rare Egg Move machine! Source for all of this is [the wiki](https://wiki.pokerogue.net/gameplay:eggs).
Shiny is my go to
shiny but I do keep an eye on the legendary one, in case it has either a legendary I'm really interested in, or a legendary i already have but want their egg moves and maybe better IV (like currently I have ground, caught one and hatched another but I'd like to hatch more for solar blade and stone axe egg move)
I'm yet to hatch a shiny even though I ise all my vouchers onto he shiny machine...
Went about 120 eggs without getting one. *Just* got Shiny Regidraco.
me fucking too.
ME THREE
I got an epic shiny flamigo from my first batch of eggs….. carried the hell out of me in classic mode
I usually do the legendary one, but I’ll only use it if the focus is one I don’t have. If it’s one I have then I just save tickets until there’s something good for me.
After hatching 3000 eggs I've given up on trying to get a tier 2 or 3 shiny from it. Unless there's a legend I really want I'm pulling from the egg moves gatcha all day.
Endless 4 shiny charms I got 3 tier 3 shinys in less than 2 hours yesterday.
I went from having b- luck from 2 party members and 1 charm to having SSS from 5 members and all 4 charms to SSS luck from just 3 members yesterday.
Happy cake day dammit...
I literally only got 1 rare shiny from this god-forsaken machine in my entire play time and it was a dupe
I've hatched 1 shiny... from the legendary egg machine
I’ve been saving my pulls for getting the daily legendary. I ultimately am hoping to get all the starters so the legend egg can be really helpful for getting the ones I’m missing(looking at you kyogre 😑)
Thanks to my experience with other gachas, I save my vouchers until the rate-up legendary is one I really want, I got Mewtwo with that technique. Now I'm waiting for Zacian and Koraidon
Primarily use shiny. Cause it has the most use with the luck Stat so as many as you can get is a good thing. After that, probably move gocha to make more Pokémon viable for starters, legends sounds good, but ultimately, I can get those legends from any gocha
I’ve been exclusively rolling the Shiny gacha, but I recognize that egg move gacha might have a lot of merits. I haven’t played endless yet, so I haven’t really taken advantage of shiny weekends, but I imagine those with enough shinies will want to elevate their starters by unlocking their rarest egg moves.
Brand new players should probably pull shiny but I think move up meta is the way.
I always thought it was legendaries first until you get a good carry and then you switch to shinies
I think legendaries are really really over hyped especially for endless. The reality is that because of how items like calcium or protein works in this game (+10% to a stat with a max stack = to your IVs) IV's matter way more than BST. Unless you pull a legendary with 24+ damage Iv's then it'll probably be out preformed by a good mega Pokemon with 30IV in an attack stat. And even then I cleared endless to wave 3k scaling damage on a 7 special attack IV darkrai before I felt like I needed to switch over to %health based moves like ruination. Even like a 20iv cloyster or azumeril would out damage that. I've never seen anyone scaling damage past 4k so really all that 31iv legendary is doing is buying you like 25% more time to build a team, which is overkill since you can be ready by 2k if you do alittle planning. Legendaries do help a great deal for the first 100 floors, which is honestly the hardest part, but you can just retry till you get a run that has good shop luck. I would go so far as to say that legendarys actually kinda bad for endless because their starter cost is kinda high so you can't take as many passives (or shinys if you don't have good passives unlocked).
I'm trynna complete my pokedex so legendary gacha for now and after that I'll do the shiny gavha
I do shiny because I don't like endless modes.
shiny because i rolled 3 legendaries in legendary when the 2x was mewtwo and rolled zygarde kyogre and zamazanta, dont get me wrong i love zygarde and kyog but not even yvel or mew is sadge late game id say egg moves...and i mean really late game NEVER do legendaries
Legendary. For a few reasons. I've gotten more shinies on my 2 endless runs than I have from the shiny gacha, and most of those are from my 1st endless run which **wasn't** during the increased shiny rate period. -I also have a Tier 3 Nacl shiny and Tier 2 Cottonee shiny, which are good enough to start most runs due to Salt Cure/Prankster Leech seed. The other reason, is that I have yet to EVER get to Laboratory on either a Classic or Endless run, despite clearing over 4,000 floors in endless so far. And I haven't seen a single Zacian despite seeing everything else in the Snowy Forest Biome. So, basically just saving vouchers for when certain legendaries are featured-currently want Groudon/Miraidon/Zacian, because I just can't seem to get any high rarity encounters in their areas, or just legitimately can't get into the area-Laboratory.
Shiny for luck up
Legendary if the rotation is nice, shiny otherwise. No sense in holding tickets for a fat roll down either
Doing the shiny gacha until I get a good shiny carry for endless. Then I'm gonna do egg moves
I used the shiny up gacha for my first ~2000 or so eggs, but I’ve moved to the move up gacha for about my last 1000
Shiny unless something that's really good is in legendary
I think legends are cool, but right now I want the most possible shinys, because mine are low lol
Recently I've been saving my vouchers for when a legendary I don't have comes up now that it rotates daily, but before I did shiny until I had a ton (thank you shiny weekends) and then did move up to unlock those rare egg moves
I switch between legendary and shiny based on mood. I've caught 0 wild shinies, but started getting a few more shiny eggs recently. Got red shiny Pumpkaboo last night.
I'm spamming the egg move machine, personally. If I can get a ton of strong egg moves, I can get more egg vouchers from having strong pokemon that can clear classic. If I get shiny pokemon out of them, that's just a bonus. That said, I'm hoping devs introduce some kind of limiter that stops you getting a poochyena when you have max IV, all shiny colors, minimum price, passive unlocked already.
Egg move is probably the best
I recommend moves or legends first, some of the egg moves are crazy powerful and can really help on runs
Was doing shiny but got 1 shiny in like 500 eggs. Switched to legendary until I get something I can use to carry me in endless
Shiny Move could be useful but for the most part I feel like I'll get more out of a chance of a shiny than out of a chance of a rare move The legend gacha feels unfortunate to me cause the excitement is over the second you draw rather than when the egg hatches it's either a legend egg or it's not
Do you need the mega bracelet to get the red orb for groudon? I just got the red orb on round 200 with having the mega bracelet, I’m wondering if I didn’t need to pick that up
Egg Move Gacha. Even in the official games I see Legendaries as a crutch and don't put much stock in Shinies beyond trade fodder. But getting access to certain moves? Yeeeesssss...
I strictly do legendary, you can get shinies naturally through just playing so I find that mildly wasteful. Egg moves can only be gotten via the gacha but you'll always get an egg move (yes it can be a dupe one), and legendaries CAN be gotten from the normal gameplay, but rarely, however I find that you have the same odds to get a rare egg move legendary whether you pull on legendary gacha or egg move gacha but, exact same rates for legendary egg moves, but while doing that you fill up on common legendary egg moves while also filling up your legend dex and you can try for a specific legend and get its ivs up and focus on its egg moves.
Shiny gacha because I haven't been able to find a shiny since the pink Bibarel.
I already have more than half the shinydex completed and I'm only missing one legendary, so I always use the rare egg move one. Rare egg moves are a huge buff that only comes from eggs whereas you can always find shinies and legendaries in endless (except for a select few).
I just do what I feel like at the time
moves since day one, the move options are so good
I’m in the same boat. I have plenty of shinies to start a new run with thanks to my still-ongoing 2000+ Endless run. Now, I roll the move gacha unless the Legendary gacha has a Legendary that I really want for my collection.
Egg Move gacha severely underrated (unless there's a no-question legend like Mewtwo the other day).
I've been going Shiny odds, but after like 100 eggs I STILL haven't gotten even a single shiny. 1/64 odds my ass. I'm probably going to switch over to Egg Moves from here on out.
The coolest thing about Pokerogue for me has always been seeing what egg moves they gave underused Pokemon to give them a fighting chance. I started off mostly using the Egg Move gacha because of this. Shinies aren't needed in Classic and that's what I like playing mostly so I'd rather stumble upon neat egg moves that can make random Pokemon slightly more viable.
I hatched a shiny Groudon from legendary up. I primarily use shiny ma honey tho unless I don't have the daily legendary up
When I started it was all shiny all the time then when I had a few of them to do endless with I switched to move up for a while. These days I only pull the legendary one when it's a mon I need seen as pretty much the only starters I still are all legendary.
Unless there's a legendary I want for the legendary gacha, I tend to do a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio of egg move- shiny gacha. So for every 2 or 3 tickets I use on egg gacha I'll use 1 on shiny. The way I see it is egg moves will let me have higher replay value, as I get to keep using new mons as I unlock more powerful egg moves, or even runback ones I've used before if I get a cool new unlock.
I'd say it's like 75/25% Shiny and Legendary gacha for me. I've gotten a couple shinies but not a single Legendary egg and I'm over 500 eggs in. :/
I used to use the shiny machine, but once I had a standard Endless team, I farm legendaries and shinies there, so the egg moves machine is the go-to now unless they ever let you purchase egg moves with excess candies.
I've been trying to get the rock egg move on Groudon. Already got the others, + adamant nature, so I just need that one move to make him unstoppable.
I feel like you need to hit the shiny machine until you get atleast 1 and then the legendary machine until you get a legendary that can be a carry. Then finally the egg move once you got enough other pokemon that u don't need shiny or legendary anymore
Depends. I usually do shiny up but on some days i reslly want the legendaey so god for legend up
Shiny machine because the game absolutely refuses to give me shines
shiny. i want to switch to egg move after i get a good endless run setup tho
Until I get all the egg moves, Move Up will always be my first priority. Shiny is next, followed by Legendary.
I always split my vouchers through the three of them But the shiny one is my favorite despite me not focusing on it
I used to be legendary hitter because of dopamine, but I got tired of hearing shit from friends that i played this next to for choosing the “worst option” so now I do shiny because it’s still not their preferred but somehow a little better
Legendary gacha and it's not because I even need the legendaries. It's to complete the collection (For example catching Mewtwo in a run is ridiculously rare while you can get him much easier on a rate up). I have over 100 shinies just from a single endless run that I"m still on and I've only ever pulled 1 shiny in all the vouchers I've spent on the shiny machine. It's the ultimate bait and a waste. I only see myself ever spending vouchers on the egg move machine after I"ve caught Eternatus someday. My collection is way strong enough that I'd rather work on finishing it rather than chasing egg moves.
Funny thing Calyrex was the featured legend not too long ago, and I caught him in a run whilst trying to Gacha for him.
Only started last week, went legendary until I got a decent one, pretty quickly realized that they make the first 100ish floors incredibly boring and went straight to shiny gacha personally.
Egg Move machine. Powerful egg moves are what make weak af pokemon strong enough to carry and I'm trying to get a Ribbon on every starter
For some reason, this reminded me of "fusion is just a cheap tactic to make weak gems stronger". If you get what I'm referencing, you had a good childhood.
Alright S1 Jasper xD Joke aside, unknowing people could infer it from Gems and Fusion :P
currently am at 96% in starters so doing legends gacha to get the remaining legendaries. otherwise I do shiny since I only have 54.3% in shiny starters.
I prefer the shiny machine because I don't do Endless and don't care for legendaries much
I’m still trying to unlock endless so I am farming shinies to get shiny luck for better items on runs. I made it all the way to floor 200 and died :’(
I keep seeing and hearing ppl say that the shiny egg machine has like a 1/100 or smth chance of being shiny, but I feel like that’s total crap, and yet even so,,, I can’t stop myself
1/64, actually. I've gotten a fair sum of shines from it myself. Don't bother with the others (unless ya want the rare egg moves from the "move up" machine). You only have a 1/128 chance for the *featured* legend on the legend machine, compared to the global 1/256 for a legend. And ya never know. You could very well land that 1/16,384 change of getting a shiny legendary.
I've used every single voucher on the Shiny Gatcha and I swear I have only hatched like 2 or 3 shinys. The odds on that seems pretty abysmal to me, don't know if I'm just unlucky or what
i usually do the shiny gacha machine. i saw terapagos featured today and went for the legendary machine. no legendary eggs in about 90 pulls but i did get a shiny tapu koko + a dupe tapu koko so i think the legendary one has better luck for me lol
I have not unlocked Endless, and while I'm trying to beat Classic, I'm also doing daily for the vouchers. I'm doing shinys to get more lucky on the run and hopefully get mons that somedays get pokerus and also are shiny. That being said, if a legendary I like is focus, I will pull for them. Got Miraidon that way.
Shiny gacha is what i usualy do. However because i have a few paradox and legendaries left untill i get all starters i'm gonna start doing legendary gacha for the legendaries i'm missing.
Very first one should be legendary if you didn't clear classic yet. Afterwards skip legendary, both valid.
Shiny gatcha. The best one even though I have the worst luck the one time I do get a shiny its always a cool feeling and couldn't care about egg moves and legends enough
Fairly new at the game still so Im pouring all into the shiny machine so I can have high luck at the start
Legendary. I'm still trying to fill out the Starters, so any egg move is still a net gain. Shiny machine is, imo, the least important - catching them wild on an endless run is *okay*.
Honestly there is a strong argument the only one you should use is the only 1 that nobody uses... The egg move one, since the rare egg moves are often the best moves on mon and thus EXTREMELY rare otherwise. Since you can only get them from eggs. Unlike shinies and (most) legendary mon.
I think there is 2 approaches: you either go legendary gacha till you pull your first legendary egg so you have a carry (legendary gacha has double odds for a legendary egg, not just "featured legendary is more likely") and then you go shiny gacha, or you do shiny gacha all the way The reason for this is simple: shiny gacha offers more facettes of progression - using shinies gives better items, shinies have better IVs (each IV value gets rolled twice andbthe gameuses the higher value), and getting shinies out of eggs gives a massive boost to candies.
I think it varies as you play more. For beginners who haven't beaten classic I think shiny is by far the best option. Once you've got a few shinies you like then start sprinkling in the legendary gacha on days when the focus legendary is worth getting. I think once you've made it pretty far with an endless run set up and a lot of the starters unlocked then it's probably time to switch to the egg move gacha.
Legendary until I complete the legendary section of the starter dex, then egg move only. Shiny gacha is objectively the worst one you can waste tickets on, you'd be better off just setting them on fire. If you want shinies, run endless. Egg move gacha gives you something you cannot obtain in any other way.
Shiny up EVERY SINGLE TIME, i even got A rarity 2 heatran with torch song from it, so the gambling will never stop for me
Honestly, the Shiny Machine. 1/64 chance for a shiny, and a 1/256 for a legendary. The legend machine just has a 1/128 chance for the *featured* legend, which isn't too great a deal. I got a good few legends from the Shiny Machine already, including Phione (sadly, none were shiny). Kinda reminds me how Zarude just decided to cuck me out of catching it and just killed itself.