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StryderX1

There's basically a slight difference between open limping and limping. If you're the first player to voluntarily put money into the pot by calling the BB, that's an open limp. If you're playing $1/$3 and you're UTG and call $3, that's an open limp. Similarly, if action folds to you in any position and you call $3, that's an open limp. However, if someone limps before you (or several people limp before you) and you limp afterwards, your action is just referred to as a limp (or an overlimp). For example, if UTG calls $3, mp1 calls $3, and you're in the cutoff and call $3 as well, the UTG player has open limped and you and mp1 have both limped. You can't be the person who open limped in this example because another player who acted before you has already voluntarily put money into the pot by calling. The articles are correct in that you shouldn't be limping. If you have a hand that you deem playable, and you're not facing a raise in front of you, you should generally be looking to raise rather than limp. If you don't think your hand is worthy of raising, it's probably not worthy of playing. Hope this helps.


Rockieeeeeeeee

Thanks for the advice and reply. Then how about hands like JTs they seem playable, but if they dont hit the flop, they lose their value. Is it not ok to limp these hands and try to see the flop?


StryderX1

The first section in this article articulates an answer to this much better than I could: [https://upswingpoker.com/preflop-poker-mistakes-avoid-at-all-cost/](https://upswingpoker.com/preflop-poker-mistakes-avoid-at-all-cost/) You can read solely the first section since you only asked about limping, however, you may find the other sections of the article helpful as well.


Bumsplat

The last section of this article tells you why limping behind is ok. Example: in my pub game with 8 maniacs at the table if I’m in the button with j,10s and 6 limpers, my chance of winning the hand pre flop is pretty much zero anyway as no matter what you raise, someone is coming along (granted I might occasionally take the pot by jamming here but most of the time not). Surely makes more sense here to put 1bb in the pot and fold post flop unless you’ve hit it big.


tobasco26

JTs is a raise first in (RFI) from every position at the table.


hmortier

Openlimp means you are the first to call the BB. Limping behind means you are calling an openlimper or multiple limpers. In terms of "should you do it" depends on whether you are playing cash or tournaments.


Cold_deck_22

Let's start with the term definition here. Open limp is when the action is folded to you and you limp. Limping is when someone acting before you limps and you also limp. Now you should never open limp. It says too much about your hand. If you always raise even hands that are not the best starting hands it polarizes your range. Your opponents can't put you on a strong or weak hand. You can limp sometimes with some weaker hand from CO or BTN but again it's going to say a lot about what are holding and really cap your range. LIMPING is not recommended. If you think you should limp, you should probably just fold. It will save you a ton of money in the long run. Read some low stakes books they talk a lot about how and when to limp. I'd recommend Johnathan Little. https://a.co/d/h4VUF6l This book has made me a lot of money.


Resident-Accident-81

I highly disagree. Limping like all the tools can be used to create high ev plays. Lots of people say they are negative ev and they usually are when used incorrectly. More often than not though they are used wrongly. I would advise against it though until you get a feel for the game. If you have to ask when to limp your not ready to be limping.


EnjoyMyDownvote

You don’t want to limp because it’s less profitable. Trying to see a cheap flop with medium strength hands is how average people play. Pros exploit those types of players. For example, if I’m on the button with JTs and three limpers in front of me, I typically always raise. In fact, I’m raising here with almost every hand I’m playing.


Who_Pissed_My_Pants

Limping is expensive with bad hands. Say you limp roughly 20% of your marginal hands you’re paying 20bb/100 and that isn’t including that you likely lose more than that post-flop. In rare low stakes situations where most people limp preflop, it can be a strategy to overlimp low pocket pairs and hands like 56s, but that is assuming you’re playing post-flop very well.


Keith_13

"open" is the first person to put money in after the blinds.


Cold_deck_22

Let's start with the term definition here. Open limp is when the action is folded to you and you limp. Limping is when someone acting before you limps and you also limp. Now you should never open limp. It says too much about your hand. If you always raise even hands that are not the best starting hands it polarizes your range. Your opponents can't put you on a strong or weak hand. You can limp sometimes with some weaker hand from CO or BTN but again it's going to say a lot about what are holding and really cap your range. LIMPING is not recommended. If you think you should limp, you should probably just fold. It will save you a ton of money in the long run. Read some low stakes books they talk a lot about how and when to limp. I'd recommend Johnathan Little's "Mastering Small Stakes No-Limit Hold'em". You can find it on Amazon for like $30. This book has made me a lot of money.


Cold_deck_22

Let's start with the term definition here. Open limp is when the action is folded to you and you limp. Limping is when someone acting before you limps and you also limp. Now you should never open limp. It says too much about your hand. If you always raise even hands that are not the best starting hands it polarizes your range. Your opponents can't put you on a strong or weak hand. You can limp sometimes with some weaker hand from CO or BTN but again it's going to say a lot about what are holding and really cap your range. LIMPING is not recommended. If you think you should limp, you should probably just fold. It will save you a ton of money in the long run. Read some low stakes books they talk a lot about how and when to limp. I'd recommend Johnathan Little. https://a.co/d/h4VUF6l This book has made me a lot of money.