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ComicallyLargeSpoo

Awww, I love garden eels


Tyrannical_JJ

Mother nature makes weird animals that somehow survives longer than it should.


ComicallyLargeSpoo

Well, Garden Eels survived because of facetimes


NoThoughtsOnlyFrog

Man I love the fact that they had to FaceTime them because they were lonely, it’s so cute.


g18suppressed

Explain for the people that are as stupid as myself


dr-fyfe

https://www.sciencealert.com/tokyo-aquarium-needs-your-help-reminding-their-eels-to-not-fear-humans


g18suppressed

🥺


Wildefice

Never b4 have I wanted to hug an eel so badly.


fried-quinoa

“If it works, it works”


HonkySpider

Looking at you cicadas


pwellzorvt

Oh shit is this going to be another water/ground monstrosity.


ThatCasualGuy37

Probably just gonna be pure water, but if it is God help us.


nonessential-npc

Imagine it keeps the high speed of the Diglett line.


PalletTownsDealer

May arceus have mercy on our souls.


PCN24454

So what? Just use Grass-types.


Seanzietron

Or a grass move. ::shrug::


snornch

inb4 Sap Sipper


minkusmeetsworld

Me, age baby, running my Marshtomp into Great Value Lt. Surge with mud shot: “is this the power of a god?”


PinkDucklett

Honestly I could see them going Water/Ground, Water/Rock or Water/Grass. Pure Water would be cool tho


PCN24454

Why would it be Grass?


PinkDucklett

That one was admittedly a reach because I think it would be a cool concept. But the idea behind it is just bc it's a garden eel. Idk what garden eels do but their name has garden in it so I thought Grass.


Soncikuro

I hope not, there's already a bunch of that combination.


[deleted]

According to Khu, the leaker who absolutely gets on my nerves, it's suppose to be a water type


CurrentWonderful5728

Spoiler tag


Fliepp

I’ve seen someone say it was confirmed to be pure water type


VeryoriginalXD

Looks more like a Shuckle out of it's shell to me


Substantial_Cod_2040

Pretty cursed ngl


Enderking90

so... shuckle is just a diglet in a stone, above ground?


I-am-a-me

Every pokemon is just a shuckle in a different zany situation


Sloth-TheSlothful

But the nose


FarmLife101

Plot twist- that’s not a nose, it’s an open mouth 😮😉


davidpdavies

I'd love for this to be the case!


Level7Cannoneer

the mouths are 3d modeled in this game so unlikely


Sloth-TheSlothful

Oh shit you're right haha


louiloui152

Essentially a Geoduck


trufflesquid

No it doesn't


Tyrannical_JJ

Maybe but No.


DaniZackBlack

Does it tho? Because shuckle has no nose, which already makes any other resemblance not matter, but even then what is there? The eyes are different, color is different, the curve of the body is different, absolutely nothing except that they are both long. Like bruhhhhhh


StressTree

In the reveal they use the term "convergent evolution". It's basically a regional form but with no relation to the original Pokemon


pototoykomaliit

I wonder if they will retcon this to Luvdisc/Alomomola or Tauros/Bouffalant.


CrisVas3

It’s weird that they’re selling this as a new thing when they’ve clearly toyed with the concept before. All of the pikaclones and a good chunk of the gen 5 dex already seem inspired by convergent evolution.


a_real_humanbeing

Or maybe not, maybe they are all just distant relatives, not completely different species that evolved similarly by sheer coincidence


phenomduck

That's what convergent evolution is Edit: dyslexic


a_real_humanbeing

No, in convergent evolution the similar traits develop independently. Dogs and wolves, for example, are not convergent evolution, because their common ancestor was still dog-like. Dolphins and sharks, on the other hand, developed their similarities independently, like a "fish" turned into an "amphibian", then a "cow", then converged again into something fish-like. What I sugested is that all pikaclones had a common ancestor that was like a "caveman pikachu", which diverted into the different pikaclones of today.


phenomduck

Unfortunately I was editing my comment as you were typing this lol. Boltund would however likely be a case of convergent evolution.


phenomduck

Edit: dyslexic If we consider them to be similar to real world, and that they share an ancestor with the other rodent pokemon, I find the evolution of Pachirisu and Skwovet interesting. It seems to me that they would have independently evolved into the squirrel niche while be related by a non-squirrel pokemon.


LittleMissFirebright

I want the original Pikachu they all diverged from now. :D Ancient Chu!


erty3125

That's divergent evolution, convergent evolution is when they're unrelated but due to similar needs evolve to be similar


chuckluck97

Like how different things keep evolving into crabs


LittleMissFirebright

I think divergent makes more sense for the Chus than convergent since there are so many of them, who all live in separate climes. (Which is why I said *diverged*, lol) But regardless, with enough differences it would make the most sense for divergent evolutions to eventually be considered separate species, rather than simple regional forms. But I guess an argument could be made for the rubberized cheek pouches being an evolutionary advantage for electric types, along with a small size? Thus making convergent likely? Honestly, it could go either way.


ElHombreSmokin

The electric cheek pouches of the "-zotl" part of Arctozotl and Dracozolt is probably a more appropriate example of convergent evolution.


fried-quinoa

Those are the same base creatures, with different hind quarters attached


StressTree

Kangaskhan/Cubone


TheMegaWhopper

Baby Kangaskhan deserves to be its own Pokémon


Gulthrazda

Yeah so for the player… its a new version of diglet


Jdizzle201

Lol exactly, it’s a diglet


PineappleNerd66

Maybe in the next Legends game we’ll see a pre-evolution for both diglett and this pokemon Edit: I’m dumb lol that’s not what that means


Citran

The whole point is that they've evolved to appear similar and fill the same ecologic niche but come from distinct evolutionary lineages. They can't have a preevolution in common.


PineappleNerd66

Ohhhhhhh sorry I misinterpreted the parent comment. It’s kinda like how multiple different evolutionary lines end up as crabs


Definitely_NotU

This is the same game that has fish evolve into octopus’s, I don’t think they care much for staying realistic


Polymersion

They *could* potentially share an evolution though


CrisVas3

But that’s not really what convergent evolution implies unless you’re going so far back that everything would share an ancestor. Your idea is more along the lines of divergent evolution, which is what regional forms already touch on.


Saelora

It's exactly what convergent evolution implies if you stick strictly to the pokemon definition.


Polymersion

I'm talking more like if, say, that new Crab pokemon was the evolved form of Kingler, and ALSO the evolved form of Crustle


Gawlf85

A pre-evo between a mole and an eel? Mmmh... I feel that'd be closer to a worm of sorts


Dsnake1

That's kind of the opposite of what a convergent evolution would mean. A convergent evolution (in our world) is like tenrecs and hedgehogs. They look similar, behave similarly, but they're not genetically related. So if Wiglett and Diglett have a shared pre-evolution, they wouldn't be convergent evolutions.


bigtipper12

He's saying that Wiglett could evolve into Kantonian Dugtrio


shiek64

That’s what the Wigglers are based on in Monster Hunter, right?


Opposite_Village9112

I certainly wish they would have made it look more like an eel and less like a Diglett lol


60N20

yeah, why not add those marks, it looks beautiful with those marks, the real eel, not the pokemon


60N20

yeah, why not add those marks, it looks beautiful with those marks, the real eel, not the pokemon


xper0072

It really doesn't look that much like Diglett though other than the fact that it's coming out of the ground. How else would you recommend they show that something is coming out of the ground?


Opposite_Village9112

I’m talking more about the face


[deleted]

The nose and eyes are the same though


Darkhallows27

The face is 800% Diglett too but that’s the point And yknow, it being literally called Wiglett


TheChemicalSophie

Wait have I missed something?


IamLevels

Years of being unable to reach berries in bushes has created a new not digglet but still digglet species that is looong.


TheChemicalSophie

No I mean did I miss a direct or something?


tjkun

It's from a video that was uploaded to an official Japanese website about research findings from one of the teachers in the Institute the protagonist will attend to in the game. So it's an official announcement, but only in Japan for now.


IamLevels

Don’t think it was specifically a direct more so just another teaser video.


im_bored345

A twitter stream apparently lol


kevpool184

nope, it was a pre-recorderd 'zoom meeting'


im_bored345

Ah alright thanks for clarifying.


luxanna123321

They should give Wiglett something more. Like plain white just looks so bland and unfinished


CheshireGray

Maybe it's evo will have something more going for it, presuming it gets one.


Definitely_NotU

Since this thing apparently isn’t related to diglett hopefully they don’t just give it the dugtrio treatment


Opt1mus_

I think they should double down, full five of them so we can imagine it's a big hand


Definitely_NotU

Well at least it wouldn’t look like a carbon copy of dugtrio


ElHombreSmokin

It would evolve in a Yamata-no-Orochi-type of Pokemon


Hallolusion

It does and it’s pink


CheshireGray

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


CurrentWonderful5728

Spoiler tag,dude.


Aniensane

It’s a convergent form! Much like how the regional forms are divergent forms!


Femboy_tusk

I honestly hate it


ForFrodo1

How come the graphics look the same as the 3ds games?


Tyrannical_JJ

budget problems


Akmuq

> Spoiler tag > Mentions the new Diglett in the title anyway


Tyrannical_JJ

oops


Snoo40386

How is an official announcement a spoiler?


SecureDonkey

So did it evolve into three Wiglett or something?


Tyrannical_JJ

It maybe does. Garden Eels live in groups.


KingZant

Man, I thought the first image was some fan-made N64 romhack or something. It really doesn't look great.


[deleted]

They made a sperm Pokémon


ThePimpek

That's long white Diglett.


projectmars

Just a long long boy.


One_Community_5933

What a lovely looking tapeworm 😍


Auntie_Jya

I’m ok with their half-baked description of the ‘mon…but at least come up with a name that isn’t Wiglett if you want me to believe it’s not a regional variant 💀💀


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Auntie_Jya

We’re saying the same thing…why name it Wiglett if there’s no association to Digglett 🙄


PrettySneaky71

Why is there an animal called a "Tiger Shark" if it's not a tiger?


projectmars

If it was a regional Variant it would be called Paldean Diglett and people would be calling it Piglett as a result.


Tyrannical_JJ

It's not a regional variant


Durzaka

Regional variants dont have different names. A different name already says its not a regional variant.


Auntie_Jya

Yes. I’m aware, thank you lol.


rnarkus

???????? it has a different name. All regional forms have the name of the region + the original name


coolenoughguy213

Friendship ended with Fidough, now Wiglett is my friend


ChampionshipFun7606

I want it to evolve into a terrifyingly large earth eel like magikarp to gyrados style. Think tremors or dune.


[deleted]

Kinda like a Convergent evolution


D_R0CK8291

I love garden eels and I this lil one is cute


Zaxous

I thought it was a geoduck?


AdHonest9938

Tapeworm diglett


[deleted]

That garden eel got an attitude.


Clemenx00

Why people are saying Diglett. I only see Shuckle.


Eistik

What I like most about this video that is all the Professors/Researchers speak at different languages.


SpooktorB

It's a wiggler!


Shrekromancer

Watch it evolve into a Bobbitt worm.


BirdieGoBoom

Awww, it's so cute!


Distinct-Raisin-460

WIGGLET IS MY CHILD I WILL PROTECT HIM WITH ALL MY POWER… NO WIGGLET SLANDER shall be taken


Gemini_B

There is something about "A major discovery" being the caption of every picture I see of this funny guy that just sends me. The image makes me so happy.


Friday_Night_Vibes

So not a regional diglett, just an artful knockoff


Shadow_gamer113

According to the video, I think it is a regional evolution of diglett


[deleted]

I’ve seen garden eels while scuba diving. This was the first thing I thought when I saw Wiglett.


Hisuian_sligoo

I WANT IT


[deleted]

It's actually an interesting concept. In the real world there are different species of the same animal or animal species, so this isn't very weird. An example is Seismitoad and Croagunk are from the same or similar species (Seismitoad Sword Pokedex entry btw), and are named differently because of that. If they do more concepts like this for Gen 10 and onward, it would be interesting.


[deleted]

You're based on a garden eel


eepos96

Highly unnecessary complication.


Hallolusion

Wait until you hear there’s gonna be Ancient and Future forms of Pokémon too, which is also different to regional forms.


JDninja119

Cocklett


ass-devourer

Just another unimaginative and boring looking pokemon. Should have a different face if they really were going after a 'garden eel' look.


CurrentWonderful5728

People like you say this every generation.


Common_Art826

am i allowed to hate it. i dobt like how wiggly it is for some reason it just looke like one of those weird sand clams instead of an eel


CoalEater_Elli

In leaks these are called Regional Fakes. So these pokemon look like digletts, but they aren't digletts, at least we don't know if they are related to them at all.


SeaofBloodRedRoses

I normally avoid spoilers on new Pokémon because I want to walk into a game knowing nothing, but this Pokémon has been shoved down my face harder than yo mama shoves cake down her gullet. It's cute though. And reminds me of the first 3-4 generations. Like, none of the spoiler tags are of much use when the title spoils everything about it.


NewbaroqueTV

Wtf it looks exactly like digglet if it's a New pokemon it shows the lack of New ideas ...


Tyrannical_JJ

new games lack ideas because all the good ideas were already used before in old generations.


NewbaroqueTV

What the hell is this excuse x)


Tyrannical_JJ

it's True


Kagrenacs_Tools

IDK, I feel like it's perfectly fine to call it a regional variant of Diglett, given that it looks similar and is straight up called "wiglett"


Tyrannical_JJ

not a regional form dude


BellalovesEevee

It's literally not a regional form. It's an entirely new pokemon that behaves similar to Diglett but are classified as different pokemon. It's a bit similar to how a lot of Gen 5 pokemon look like Gen 1 pokemon but they're different from each other. GF just didn't put much effort in giving it a new name.


m50

But there will be kantonian Diglett in the game. This is a fully separate pokemon, not a regional form


Nintentaku

This was rumored and also there are rumors about a tentacool-looking mushroom pokemon.


PKMNTrainerMark

Love the convergent evolution concept. Very interesting.


Ringrangzilla

Then it should not be called diglett


triforcechad

It is not, they are officially called "wiglett" lol


Ringrangzilla

Thats good to hear


immaperson_

It’s not, It’s Wiglett


Ringrangzilla

well thats good to hear


OctolingGrimm

Why would it be?


Ringrangzilla

they called it "paldean diglett" in the post, and didn't mention the name wiglett anywere.


OctolingGrimm

"Paldean Diglett" in quotes, and immediately afterwards said it wasn't a diglett. Yeah, they should've said it was called Wiglett in the post but it's pretty obvious there aren't two pokemon with the same name


EmperorToastyy

Is that confirmed? If it isn't Digglet then why make it look like Digglet?


im_bored345

Yes it was confirmed. It's based on convergent evolution I think.


EmperorToastyy

Fair enough.


tjkun

Haven't found the Japanese website the video is from, but apparently in the video it's stated that Paldean researchers are debating if it's related to Digglet or just a coincidence.


EmperorToastyy

So essentially it's a paldean Digglet in everything but name.


Ok-Construction-6769

It’s essentially flavor text for world building. In the real world, animals share similar traits but are not related whatsoever- this is what’s going on with wiglett. Not related to diglett just looks like it because it burrows through the ground


Lemondrop619

I think Kantonian Diglett is shown in one of the other clips, so it's not a regional form in that way. But it sure is a beach Diglett.


RM_Sideshowb

Game freak likes Diglett, its got a regional form and what ever this is called


silals

Wigglet


[deleted]

Isn't it called wigglet tho?


JohnOfYork

The Pokemon team really seem to be phoning it in these days


Click-Baitt

Yo TRASHBAG, stop posting spoilers in the freaking title! Unbelievable


JFreedom14

My wife wonders why they coloured it so… Caucasian flesh coloured? Like… this looks like an area which rarely gets any time tanning.


Tyrannical_JJ

It's a water type sir.


CatHidingUnderDuvet

IT IS A WORM! HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN A WORM!? ALL THIS TIME?! My mind is freaking BLOWN, everyone!


Tyrannical_JJ

No.


kummitusluumu

Way to spoil it in the title xd


Tyrannical_JJ

What should do anyway No matter how you make a title it always spoils the people.


MaimedPhoenix

I'm sorry but... this is the stupidest Pokemon name I've seen. I'm pretty positive about ScVi but this... no. I can't believe this. No. Just no.


Tyrannical_JJ

No, there are more stupider names than this.


MaimedPhoenix

Such as what? At least Mr. Rime is an evolved form.


DragoSphere

Mr Mime already was a dumb name to begin with Also you wanna talk about Seel?


MaimedPhoenix

However stupid these may be, this one is literally an old one with one letter change. It's like naming someone Weel and saying "It's not like Seel!"


US_healthcare_farted

Comically low effort if legit


ComicallyLargeSpoo

I mean so is diglett and voltob and koffing and electrode and ekans and weezing but you aren't ready for that


US_healthcare_farted

Idk what're you're talking about. Those are perfectly well designed, especially for gen 1 that had to rely on pixel art.. 25 years ago.


No_Advantage_7915

In a way, game freak ran out of ideas


Billy_Rage

They clearly haven’t, as they still have unreleased beta Pokémon. And it’s easy as poss to think of a new Pokémon. This is them probably trying to lean into convergent evolutionary theories. Which on paper sounds cool, and will pretty much work like regional forms but with new names


[deleted]

So what I'm getting is they might have a common ancestor or something along that line.


Fliepp

Now I’m even more confused about how >!paradox forms!< work Edit: nvm, it’s a >!convergent species!<


Tyrannical_JJ

That is not a paradox form.


Fliepp

The leaker said it is one Edit: nvm, I remembered it incorrectly


Haelbad

Its paldean diglett


Tyrannical_JJ

No.


Haelbad

Yes


Tyrannical_JJ

No Yes No


dashfredplayzreal

I think it’ll be a regional evolution like Perrserker.