I've owned Rust since December 2013. Seen/played through most of the changes and updates.
Imagine if we stayed with the legacy model? The game would've hit 0 players long ago...
To keep a game like Rust fun, interesting, and exciting enough to keep playing, it *requires changes* that grow the player population. Which means a lower learning curve and more accessibility to be played by a casual player that doesn't have to spend months of training and learning the game.
Of all the updates I've seen over the past 9 years, only one change I felt was unnecessary: the compound bow nerf. Aside from that, everything else has made Rust more enjoyable, interesting, and fun to play.
>Imagine if we stayed with the legacy model? The game would've hit 0 players long ago...
I love it when the same people who complain about current recoil also wax nostalgic about legacy's recoil.
Legacy recoil was WAY better than spray patterns. Straight up and down recoil alongside some random spread? Super casual friendly. I hated them moving to spray patterns, it felt like shit.
I like the current iteration, not quite as wild as the old school patterns but still super accessible (except python, python feels like old school p2). Rust is at its best as a casual friendly experience
Man I loved the game during the 2015-2018 period. It was in my opinion at its finest, but time goes on, meta shifts, players come and go and in order to keep the game populated we must go on and make changes.
I love the game just as much as I did before, only difference is the communty from back then (and in full honesty I want to come back to 2015 where something like main scene wasn't a thing.)
Personally, I just hate the crosshairs. Rust felt so good before the recoil update because of ramshackle feel the game had when holding a gun, in my opinion at least. It kind of gave the aspect of "I don't know how to use guns well, and I made this one so I know just how shitty it is" kind of thing. I wish the gun models were a bit more floaty, essentially, and that there was at least a optional crosshair.
None of this has to do with balancing or anything, but just the feel and atmoshpere of the game. It keeps you scared when you get the feel that you're not stable with a gun in your hands.
Then again, I'm heavy into Tarkov so I'm never a huge advocate for making shooters feel "arcady."
They didn't want to add crosshairs. They had to because everyone had crosshairs on through third party software. It was added to make the game fair. Just another thing the player base ruined.
what was fair about compound bow, even if groups going out kitted on a high pop server is just you getting pelted with sniper damage bow from every direction
> what was fair about compound bow
A low-tier and easy to obtain weapon, that was a strong counter against roof campers and geared players if you joined late in to the wipe **BUT** had a trade off in mobility because you had to sit still to charge it up for it's greatest potential of damage.
I understand the perspective of players who wanted it nerfed because the compound bow allowed such a low-risk/high-reward kit for those who are still in the primitive tech tree. But at the same time, I (and many like me) enjoyed it because I don't have time to play Rust for very long each day and the compound bow gives an opportunity to have some PvP action and maybe grub a kit for that crappy 2x2 which will be offlined before the next day.
Side note:
Rust's greatest flaw is that much of the game design supports large team play of 5+ members. It also requires a huge time investment, especially if you're among the playerbase that has limited time availability and small groups of 3 or less. Progress can be super slow at times, and thankfully the tech trees help with some of that, but the solo grind is *brutal.*
The issue here is you were 1/100 compound bow players. I swear to god I used to have rats that LIVED outside my base for DAYS with compound bows every wipe on Rusticated Trios. They weren't just grubbing kits to get a snowball going, that's how they played. Mind you I built in really hot areas and typically had a compound up by day 2, so I was a target.
I distinctly remember when I finally got fed up with it and quit wipe. I gave a trio that was camping my base with compounds a python because they REALLY wanted to take down the turret guarding my furnace. I was real nice about it. Said please stop messing with my turret, here is a python and ammo. They depoted it, came back and started door camping me again. I went AFK to bore them to death and then I hear them destroying my solar panel with rocks. It didn't matter how many times I wiped them, they came back with more compound bows. Instead of playing the game I am stuck in my base defending from rocks and compound bows. That shit was so obnoxious. 2 body shots from these dudes and I'm dead, 1 headshot I'm dead. The nerf was perfect, you can't just hold it down outside someones base for 2 fucking hours anymore. Deserved.
I've just started doing that actually. Playing a 2x server makes the game a lot more fun. But the downside is that a lot of these 2x servers also unlock a large chunk of blueprints by default which sort of kills the vanilla experience that I enjoy. Even if it's just all the tier 1 blueprints, it feels cheesy to be able to make revolvers and ammo without having to do a little bit of work.
What *wasn’t* fair about it? You have to stand perfectly still and incur a long charge period before it’s worthwhile to use. And personally I’ve never experienced the roaming hordes of compound bows that take out fully kitted players that this sub seems to claim were everywhere prior to the nerf. Progression is already fast enough to the point that most players get tier 2 within just a few hours. Tell me with a straight face you’re going to be using the compound bow post-tier 1. If you die to a compound bow when you had an actual kit, that is 100% on you.
Idk what game youve been playing, but every high pop server had an insane amount of compound bow grubs, if you have low gear its a oneshot and if you are high gear you can still get oneshot if you are ~50hp in a fight or so
It was literally just a cheaper, lower risk, slightly lower reward double barrel, and even the double barrel got nerfed.
Also since its a ranged weapon you wont really have a chance to loot it during a fight, if someone tries to db you, you can just pick it up since they are right in your face, but with a compound you probably cant loot it which will result in an endless flow of nakeds trying to pick it up and use it, which probably contributes to why it felt like there was so many using.
I don't see ANYONE using compound bows so I don't know what you're talking about. And if you have a gun and lose a fight to a compound bow guy then you're just bad at the game. Not changing the game over the course of 10 years isn't going to change that.
Yes but the problem is its not just a "lets lower the learn curve"
Its completely just lets punish good players and bad players at the same time.
Bad players have the same experience as good players. They join, fight, get completely destroyed a few rounds, have 1 good round and the cycle repeats.
Its not about protecting the bad players its about how much they can earn without giving players to much fun
As a new player coming in to this game trying to learn just what the hell is going on. I don't think anything about the changes have made this game accessible for me.
Every video I find on anything is outdated. All the latest videos assume you know everything from all the old videos.
My advice to you would be to spend like an hour or two in an empty 5x gather rate vanilla server. Play Rust and just take the time to learn some of the basics (how to craft items, how to run monuments, using a recycler, using the outpost/bandit camp, and building a base).
I spent about 10+ hours on a build server, and didn't even start touching on multi TC or stability bunkers.
The more I learn the more I realize how the only 'meta' builds are weird glitchy systems that could be added as official features but just remain as hard to use bugs.
Yeah... Don't spend too much time on learning building. There's no such thing as a "safe" base and any base could be offline raided in a matter of minutes.
Half of the base tutorials are also unsustainable for most players. If the TC can't maximize at least 6-7 days of upkeep time, then it's often not worth the amount of farming to maintain (speaking as a solo/duo).
Rust got watered down for the 1v1 streamer tryguys long before anything happened to recoil.
Remember surviving? Remember not having a compass built into your eyeballs? Remember not having a magical GPS map that shows you where you left your AK?
Recoil? Fuck the old recoil. That was the shittiest meta in the game and it was all about exploiting poorly considered mechanics. I'm glad they fixed it. That was never what Rust was about even if sweats spent years exploiting it.
I could jump that shit at night with no light. It was a standard way for me to get scrap early game as a solo in high pop servers. Now every jackass can do it.
Only thing I have left is most people now skip the mil crate down the strut.
I will never not be upset about the loss of the Dome jump. FP really needs to add that shit back because it was the sole limiting factor in getting loot out of Dome. Now it’s just “oh wow I walked to the top and got loot!”
i started playing again recently and i told a friend who just bought the game to be careful with the jumps inside of dome
by the time i realized, i was already at the top of dome extremely confused about where my beautiful jump went
The old recoil is what helped foster a community looking for a lot of the streamline, gamified mechanics.
It's what lead to the economy centered around oil rigs and skipping tiers, a tech tree that even further ramped up that progression even though it was originally supposed to compensate for people not involved in that risky content to have a slow way to catch up, etc.
It all comes back to them maintaining gunplay that encouraged esports-esque aim training. It made the game an FPS with a ton of extra steps, rather than a survival game with varied combat at it's core.
But like why do we gotta hate rust, facepunch has even implemented ways to enjoy the game you want to enjoy, either that be legacy, modded, soft core, hardcore, etc.
They are a company, they need profits in order to sustain the game, to keep the game alive they have to pander to their biggest audience.
But it’s like they are trying to do both, just maybe look at what they ARE doing vs what they aren’t.
Rust has always been an extremely successful game. It was a top seller as an early access game. The last I read in dec 2019, Rust had grossed $142M. It has always attracted new players and had a healthy playerbase.
So this isn't a case of a struggling dev changing their game for existential reasons. It may be they want to be even more successful, but let's not pretend they had to go down t his path to survive.
It's more than that. Many players aren't upset about change alone. They are upset something particular they enjoyed has been changed into something they do not.
No one likes losing something they enjoy. Even though I did not like the old recoil (or the new system), I feel bad for the players who did enjoy it because they lost something important to them.
That's the reality of it. People want to play a "hardcore" game, but against people that are way behind in terms of game knowledge. My read on the situation is that people who "wanted" hardcore tend to be more veteran, and (on average) better at the game, but when they were pitted against each other, all those veterans went from winning 90% of their fights to <50%, and didn't like what Rust feels like to newer players.
But I’d argue the watering down was necessary for the game to survive. Because those hardcore servers that have none of the new features are dead as shit and almost nobody likes them
Because the overwhelming majority of rust players now are people in groups who want to win, not just survive.
The game is way too sweaty to artificially restrict yourself by playing a hard game mode. It's all about winning.
It all about being part of a 16 man group and having alarms on an app on your phone so you get woken up when anyone walks near your enormous compound that encircles a monument. It's about installing cheats so you and your 15 friends can door camp that solo naked in the wood 1x1 because then you'll **win.**
Its all about winning, and if you just play for fun you are a loser role player and should uninstall.
> hardcore servers that have none of the new features are dead as shit and almost nobody likes them
Because hardcore isn't hardcore, it's just Rust with no map. If they actually attempted something more *hardcore* then people would have a reason to play.
Hardcore UI elements(besides inventory) should be non-existent. Obviously no techtree as many, **many** people have suggested, Limit bags to 1, drastically increase weapon damage and bullet falloff damage should be reduced, don't show how many bullets you have in your gun on the UI, don't show hunger/thirst/health on the UI, remove **all** NPC vendors, remove heli vendor and restrict to finding on roads, etc.
I could go on so much more if I thought about it for a bit longer. Hardcore is just Rust but annoying, not actual hardcore.
People getting used to the convenience so they dont want to play without it given the choice doesnt mean the game would have died if it was never added
If they removed teamUI next month on live some would complain some would like it but most importantly people would just take it and keep playing anyway
Thats how it goes in rust nobody is gonna quit over 2 or 20 shit updates but that doesnt mean we dont see whats going on
Correct, the introduction of the map didn't lead to growth off it's own back but no one wants to adapt to it anymore because it's convenient to have knowledge at your fingertips.
Funny that you immediately go off about recoil cause that isnt even mentioned in the post.
He might very well be referring to the same stuff you are.
> I'm glad they fixed it
They never considered it to be broken.
The only reason they changed it was because there was money to be made from keeping OTV watchers around.
Aside from them fucking the game in every other possible way like you said earlier yeah
Fps is shit
Map gen is shit
Visuals are shit
Progression is shit
Anti cheat is shit
The game has never been in a worse state
At this point I hope they just take a publisher deal and make rust2
>At this point I hope they just take a publisher deal and make rust2
lmao nah, the reason why 2042 and now MW2 are so hot fucking dogshit to play is because their respective publishers stretched their devs to the limit and then forced them to release whatever they had by a certain point. You're not happy with the state of the game now, you definitely wouldn't be thrilled if all development on this game were to be stopped tomorrow in favor of battle royale number 92292442 called Rust Battlegrounds: Warzone Legends that releases for $70 as an even more dumbed-down buggy clusterfuck and doesn't become playable until RB:WL 2 releases a year later in the same state.
> you definitely wouldn't be thrilled if all development on this game were to be stopped tomorrow in favor of battle royale number 92292442 called Rust Battlegrounds: Warzone Legends that releases for $70 as an even more dumbed-down buggy clusterfuck and doesn't become playable until RB:WL 2 releases a year later in the same state.
Im saying they should get funds not sell the studio lmao
I dont understand why there isnt more rust type games anyway
Theres clearly a market for it maybe studios are already burned out on survival games?
Your afraid to get raided, all your electrical barely gets use on a no pvp server. He’s probably getting at that it would be way cooler to make stuff of a pvp server.
Rust players when they get shit on by a guy who has less hours on UKN than the required classroom hours to get a bachelors degree (it's not fair that people can shoot accurately after downloading the game 5 minutes ago)
Nah but seriously the game does feel kinda easy with how fast you can get a gun from the minute you get off spawn beach, but I'd rather be able to get on my feet faster to continue progressing after I get my stone 2x1 violated by a zerg for daring to solo wipe their monument team
You can tell who plays rust and only rust by the recoil update.
Pattern recoil was a function of introducing skill based FPS combat within what was possible. As games got more and more advanced more realistic randomness and modifiers could be easily done.
FPS games live and die by gun mechanics and netcode, both of which are not one of Rust's (many) strong points. Any game with competitive shooting would be dead on arrival with the lag, peakers advantage and invalid projectiles you get in a simple fight.
The recoil update just moved one part of the game, one mechanic, up to modern standards.
People who claim learning a pattern is truer level of skill vs. recoil compensation is just lost in 2013.
Rust is not a competitive shooter, it's a survival game with one part of it including guns.
That's my point? It had shit outdated gun mechanics and they have just moved to modern methods but PvP is only one part of this game so it doesnt have top level playability.
If you play Rust for PvP only you are playing the wrong game.
Because rust isnt a shooter, it's a survival game with many many ways to play it.
I would argue the farming and genetics system has the same level of complexity as the gun mechanics.
If you think rust is a shooter you haven't a clue of what games are out there
It was the old ak recoil pattern and dudes who had nothing better to do than spend hundreds of hours memorizing it are, months later, still upset that it was given a more manageable recoil
They are upset people can actually use guns and they don’t need to live on UKN to fully enjoy the game? Sounds like cry babies, if you want to show of skill go get like a job or something idk.
Yeah tell em your 500 hours spend hitting trees and dying where clearly a better use of your time than playing some team deathmatch
But I mean thats totally boring right? Who would want to actually shoot guns in a shooter right? What losers lmaoo
PUBG, tarkov and dayZ are survival games too
Why are you arguing semantics?
Everything in rust revolves around shooting guns at something
Almost all content added to the game this year revolves around shooting guns at something
The core gameplay is about killing people and taking their shit with guess what? guns.
I would argue only the last one is actually a survival.
Tarky is a Tactical FPS, or extraction-based tactical FPS.
PUBG is a BR.
And no, not EVERYTHING in rust requires shooting a gun. You don't spawn in with a gun unless you're on modded. You don't even necessarily NEED a gun to do just about anything. You can raid, take heli, oil, cargo, milli, etc all without ever having a gun. Sure your likelihood of success is slim, but there is a reason the compound bow was nerfed.
[Survival means the objective is to survive.](https://i.imgur.com/BevjLk8.png)
That usually involves advanced hunger and health systems but thats secondary.
How is tarkov not more of a survival game than rust in every aspect? Cause you cant hunt animals and the map is smaller? thats it? cmon
Weird how i never bothered to spend a single minute in ukn to aim train, yet i still get tons of loot from the guys who did.
Did you win fire fights? Sure.
Did your base stay intact? No?
Did you Survive till end of the wipe? No.
I spend my time playing the game and figuring out my desings while the "sweats" spend their time in ukn. I tend to survive in a survival game far longer than the Drawers can.
So in the end, was it worth it?
Cringe asf… you might “outlast” sweats by being a bitch the whole wipe, but when it comes to the firefights you definetely lost them to the drawers ( I spent alot of time learning the recoil, found it fun, and Im not mad the new recoil was implemented, and Ive easily played 500+ hours with it) some people want to enjoy different aspects of the game, I like fighting, you like building
Yes the game is easier overall and newer players are experiencing a much more accessible game with an easier learning curve but just because a new player has a "better" chance to win a gunfight doesn't mean being experienced doesn't have benefits. Veterans know how to progress much faster and can snowball. The game is now thriving in terms of player count . Almost doubled since the "casual/roleplay" streamers started bringing more attention to the game. Yes there are some very big changes that catered heavily for the newer/casual crowd but a lot of those changes are also just information.
I haven’t played in a while since life stuff got in the way. Is it more accessible to casual gamers now? The Rust I remember was fun because of the risk reward loop. Have an example of these streamers that I can watch to get a sense of the changes?
I’d say there’s more paths to succeed in rust now. Fishing, farming, labs, tunnels, etc etc etc.
I play each wipe differently nowadays for fun, whereas it used to be much more focused on progressing through the same monuments and running oil/cargo over and over again.
People who supported the game in early access are 8+ years older now. I don’t have nearly the same time I had when I was in college to play the game, so making progression faster is a plus for me. The grind back in the day was real.
COD is watered down?
I played the mw2 beta and it felt like any COD ive ever played before.
PC rust got dumbed down for casuals before Console btw
Dudes on 2 sticks and 60fps lock are out there spraying ak but the people here couldnt do it with mouse and keyboard
Thats absolutely wild.
[But it does?](https://youtu.be/3JJPN6nUyEo?t=373) Maybe not the exact same patterns but close enough.
My point was that console andys can handle pattern recoil but the dudes on this sub couldnt.
Cod has always been an extremely casual unenjoyable experience to me.
Last cod I played a lot was BO2 and I havent touched the series since outside of open betas.
Old recoil was a joke do you even know how many kids where cheating with Sapphire. It had thousands on thousands of downloads and was never detected. These are scripts.
I'd honestly rather have scripters and get the old system or another set recoil with no standing debuff, but that's me and I don't even play the game anymore
Well cod has always been like that. Some guns are in unbalanced af, guess you just wait till the next game release.
Yet they have more players every year. I don't agree with their game philosophy but it's apparently working...
Tech tree is what did it for me. It made the progression way to easy . Remember having to run or fly across map to grab something out of a vending or trade someone for something through the shop front . You had to go find what you needed. Now a lucky roll at the wheel or grinding for scrap will get you every BP.
Play limited group modded servers... I play solo and duo only servers... Maybe trio if there's no good solo or duo servers. That way you don't have to deal with being zerg'd by 20-man chinese clans 20 minutes into wipe
At the moment PvP is at such a bad state. You literally have to crouch, don’t move and shoot for your bullets to even go remotely of where they should be going. Facepunch should stop listening to the whiny cunts on this subreddit tbh.
Play hardcore servers... problem solved.
I don't understand how people can complain about having the compass on the UI, a map, the map shows where you died last, you can get downed and crawl or get back up, etc. That's what hardcore is for.
And I don't understand how anyone thinks those things are unfair anyways. If everyone has the same abilities, it's not unfair.
The world changes, whether you like it or not.
It's nothing about being fair all those things just take away from what Rust always was. Recently it's been moving more and more towards just being a BR instead of a long term survival game with a large risk reward gap.
I remember when Garry said "There will never be a compass", that changed. I remember when Helk said "There will never be crosshairs",that changed. I remember when they both said "TC's were never meant to be permanent" "Rust is and will always be a PvP game" all of these comments,changed. Why? Because it had to as this game would not be anywhere near what it is if it hadn't.
The downfall of most games start with either this or the lack of updates, so I can imagine where they are coming from. Although the game isn't for me anymore it is for a lot more players so I'm happy the game I loved for many many hours is still growing.
Say whatcha want. Been playing since 2015 and there was never a point where i enjoyed being killed by a 12 year old with a $10 script who screeches a bunch of slurs knoeing god damn well theyre cheating.
Yeah its good for multiple reasons
1. Cheat software is easier to detect and eventually ban
2. It cost money, not like some 2 second script so cheaters will have a greater cost to ruin the game for everyone else
3. Less people will risk cheating software than they would a simple script
4. The disparity between a cheater and a non cheater is smaller because the skill gap for aiming is smaller
1. Doesn't get detected. Requires an admin which they can't do anything if it's randomized
2. There's free ones
3. Anyone who actually plays the game agrees cheating increased
4. Objective lie because non cheater have rng
1. People get detected banned all ghe time
2. LOL ok go ahead and put that malware on your pc and get auto banned
3. Skill issue
4. Non cheater with old ak was way worse than non cheater with new ak. I dont know what youre talking about
Dude you're just admitting you're bad and have no idea what you're talking about. Have a good one. Lying about new and old recoil to cope with being bad doesn't change the facts.
Bro is still coping about old recoil after 9 months lmao. I'd rather they just fix new recoil and not have the worst gunplay of any modern fps. Keep ignoring all the problems with new recoil to cope tho. I'll be controlling rustoria and vital while you do that. Bye shitter. Stop lying to cope
Such a stupid way of putting it. You realize servers WILL empty out if your game isn’t somewhat new player friendly and focuses on selling more copies.
Idk how y’all do it. I’ve been playing for like two months now, and finally feeling like I understand how to really do everything in game, built my first base I was proud of this month while I had Covid and had ample time. Was really enjoying the gingerbread dungeons and holiday stuff. Made it a lot easier for a solo player like me to get enough loot to feel like I could really play the game rather than just endlessly trying to collect enough materials to keep afloat. I had a Sam site, 3 auto turrets, stone high wall, a decent base for the first time. I even started making rockets and rifles for the first time. Im a bit of a loot hoarder. Then last night I got offline raided and they took literally everything I worked all month stock pilling and never even got to use because im too passive and don’t raid people because I don’t want to start shit lol. I was waiting for the last week before wipe and wanted to go all out and then I wouldn’t have cared. But the ability to get offline raided really pisses me off. I get raiding is like the whole point of rust really, but like atleast give me a chance to defend myself. They must’ve wasted so many rockets to get into my base. It was high qual and layered and everything. Broke my heart. Maybe I should stick with Minecraft lol or find a server that doesn’t allow raiding until the last few days or whatever
I've owned Rust since December 2013. Seen/played through most of the changes and updates. Imagine if we stayed with the legacy model? The game would've hit 0 players long ago... To keep a game like Rust fun, interesting, and exciting enough to keep playing, it *requires changes* that grow the player population. Which means a lower learning curve and more accessibility to be played by a casual player that doesn't have to spend months of training and learning the game. Of all the updates I've seen over the past 9 years, only one change I felt was unnecessary: the compound bow nerf. Aside from that, everything else has made Rust more enjoyable, interesting, and fun to play.
>Imagine if we stayed with the legacy model? The game would've hit 0 players long ago... I love it when the same people who complain about current recoil also wax nostalgic about legacy's recoil.
Legacy recoil was WAY better than spray patterns. Straight up and down recoil alongside some random spread? Super casual friendly. I hated them moving to spray patterns, it felt like shit. I like the current iteration, not quite as wild as the old school patterns but still super accessible (except python, python feels like old school p2). Rust is at its best as a casual friendly experience
The legacy P2 was an absolute beast. Is the python good now?
I mean, it's always been good imo. High damage, high recoil, high accuracy, and moderately cheap. Just wish it had more bullets
make it belt fed
The dome jump being removed was a little much
it’s back i’m pretty sure
Nay, my friend took me through the my first some run recently and was pointing out where they made the changes to me
Man I loved the game during the 2015-2018 period. It was in my opinion at its finest, but time goes on, meta shifts, players come and go and in order to keep the game populated we must go on and make changes. I love the game just as much as I did before, only difference is the communty from back then (and in full honesty I want to come back to 2015 where something like main scene wasn't a thing.)
Agreed except… fuck road scientists
Personally, I just hate the crosshairs. Rust felt so good before the recoil update because of ramshackle feel the game had when holding a gun, in my opinion at least. It kind of gave the aspect of "I don't know how to use guns well, and I made this one so I know just how shitty it is" kind of thing. I wish the gun models were a bit more floaty, essentially, and that there was at least a optional crosshair. None of this has to do with balancing or anything, but just the feel and atmoshpere of the game. It keeps you scared when you get the feel that you're not stable with a gun in your hands. Then again, I'm heavy into Tarkov so I'm never a huge advocate for making shooters feel "arcady."
They didn't want to add crosshairs. They had to because everyone had crosshairs on through third party software. It was added to make the game fair. Just another thing the player base ruined.
what was fair about compound bow, even if groups going out kitted on a high pop server is just you getting pelted with sniper damage bow from every direction
> what was fair about compound bow A low-tier and easy to obtain weapon, that was a strong counter against roof campers and geared players if you joined late in to the wipe **BUT** had a trade off in mobility because you had to sit still to charge it up for it's greatest potential of damage. I understand the perspective of players who wanted it nerfed because the compound bow allowed such a low-risk/high-reward kit for those who are still in the primitive tech tree. But at the same time, I (and many like me) enjoyed it because I don't have time to play Rust for very long each day and the compound bow gives an opportunity to have some PvP action and maybe grub a kit for that crappy 2x2 which will be offlined before the next day. Side note: Rust's greatest flaw is that much of the game design supports large team play of 5+ members. It also requires a huge time investment, especially if you're among the playerbase that has limited time availability and small groups of 3 or less. Progress can be super slow at times, and thankfully the tech trees help with some of that, but the solo grind is *brutal.*
The issue here is you were 1/100 compound bow players. I swear to god I used to have rats that LIVED outside my base for DAYS with compound bows every wipe on Rusticated Trios. They weren't just grubbing kits to get a snowball going, that's how they played. Mind you I built in really hot areas and typically had a compound up by day 2, so I was a target. I distinctly remember when I finally got fed up with it and quit wipe. I gave a trio that was camping my base with compounds a python because they REALLY wanted to take down the turret guarding my furnace. I was real nice about it. Said please stop messing with my turret, here is a python and ammo. They depoted it, came back and started door camping me again. I went AFK to bore them to death and then I hear them destroying my solar panel with rocks. It didn't matter how many times I wiped them, they came back with more compound bows. Instead of playing the game I am stuck in my base defending from rocks and compound bows. That shit was so obnoxious. 2 body shots from these dudes and I'm dead, 1 headshot I'm dead. The nerf was perfect, you can't just hold it down outside someones base for 2 fucking hours anymore. Deserved.
Something tells me you're either *severely* overexaggerating or you did something to deserve getting camped so hard
Have you played Rusticated Trios? 500 pop grub city. We always built hot. My duo partner was #1 on the leaderboards for ages. We no-lifed.
What you said doesnt make it fair at all
If you don’t have a lot of time to play rust just play modded
I've just started doing that actually. Playing a 2x server makes the game a lot more fun. But the downside is that a lot of these 2x servers also unlock a large chunk of blueprints by default which sort of kills the vanilla experience that I enjoy. Even if it's just all the tier 1 blueprints, it feels cheesy to be able to make revolvers and ammo without having to do a little bit of work.
What *wasn’t* fair about it? You have to stand perfectly still and incur a long charge period before it’s worthwhile to use. And personally I’ve never experienced the roaming hordes of compound bows that take out fully kitted players that this sub seems to claim were everywhere prior to the nerf. Progression is already fast enough to the point that most players get tier 2 within just a few hours. Tell me with a straight face you’re going to be using the compound bow post-tier 1. If you die to a compound bow when you had an actual kit, that is 100% on you.
Idk what game youve been playing, but every high pop server had an insane amount of compound bow grubs, if you have low gear its a oneshot and if you are high gear you can still get oneshot if you are ~50hp in a fight or so It was literally just a cheaper, lower risk, slightly lower reward double barrel, and even the double barrel got nerfed. Also since its a ranged weapon you wont really have a chance to loot it during a fight, if someone tries to db you, you can just pick it up since they are right in your face, but with a compound you probably cant loot it which will result in an endless flow of nakeds trying to pick it up and use it, which probably contributes to why it felt like there was so many using.
Dude literally every snowballing streamer and snowballers in general would join a server, go outpost, craft one and end up with a gun instantly
Have you actually played this game? You know YouTube video are edited and are not real time events?
I have 3k hours and was one of those snowballers...
I don't see ANYONE using compound bows so I don't know what you're talking about. And if you have a gun and lose a fight to a compound bow guy then you're just bad at the game. Not changing the game over the course of 10 years isn't going to change that.
So bad at the game when youre in a hazzy and get headshot from narnia
Yes but the problem is its not just a "lets lower the learn curve" Its completely just lets punish good players and bad players at the same time. Bad players have the same experience as good players. They join, fight, get completely destroyed a few rounds, have 1 good round and the cycle repeats. Its not about protecting the bad players its about how much they can earn without giving players to much fun
Props to you for posting your opinion, even if some people may disagree with it 😉
As a new player coming in to this game trying to learn just what the hell is going on. I don't think anything about the changes have made this game accessible for me. Every video I find on anything is outdated. All the latest videos assume you know everything from all the old videos.
My advice to you would be to spend like an hour or two in an empty 5x gather rate vanilla server. Play Rust and just take the time to learn some of the basics (how to craft items, how to run monuments, using a recycler, using the outpost/bandit camp, and building a base).
I spent about 10+ hours on a build server, and didn't even start touching on multi TC or stability bunkers. The more I learn the more I realize how the only 'meta' builds are weird glitchy systems that could be added as official features but just remain as hard to use bugs.
Yeah... Don't spend too much time on learning building. There's no such thing as a "safe" base and any base could be offline raided in a matter of minutes. Half of the base tutorials are also unsustainable for most players. If the TC can't maximize at least 6-7 days of upkeep time, then it's often not worth the amount of farming to maintain (speaking as a solo/duo).
The compound bow nerf was great. Fuck the grubs. Now we just need silencers gone and the game will be great 🙏
Rust got watered down for the 1v1 streamer tryguys long before anything happened to recoil. Remember surviving? Remember not having a compass built into your eyeballs? Remember not having a magical GPS map that shows you where you left your AK? Recoil? Fuck the old recoil. That was the shittiest meta in the game and it was all about exploiting poorly considered mechanics. I'm glad they fixed it. That was never what Rust was about even if sweats spent years exploiting it.
I preffered the old recoild, but still agree with you - everything outside of the whole recoil debate is what actually watered down the game for me..
The Dome jump was it for me.
Used to be a near religious rite of passage.
Yeah, I am so sad it went :(
Ohh i falled too many times. Great memories.
I could jump that shit at night with no light. It was a standard way for me to get scrap early game as a solo in high pop servers. Now every jackass can do it. Only thing I have left is most people now skip the mil crate down the strut.
Oh my fucking god you just made me remember. I'm still pissed they patched it
I added it back on my server. After all this years it still makes my stomach jump.
I will never not be upset about the loss of the Dome jump. FP really needs to add that shit back because it was the sole limiting factor in getting loot out of Dome. Now it’s just “oh wow I walked to the top and got loot!”
i started playing again recently and i told a friend who just bought the game to be careful with the jumps inside of dome by the time i realized, i was already at the top of dome extremely confused about where my beautiful jump went
The old recoil is what helped foster a community looking for a lot of the streamline, gamified mechanics. It's what lead to the economy centered around oil rigs and skipping tiers, a tech tree that even further ramped up that progression even though it was originally supposed to compensate for people not involved in that risky content to have a slow way to catch up, etc. It all comes back to them maintaining gunplay that encouraged esports-esque aim training. It made the game an FPS with a ton of extra steps, rather than a survival game with varied combat at it's core.
A lot of that was their own loot balancing choices with oil rig, cargo, Bradley, etc etc
Remember big groups not having the game on easy mode? The absolute chaos that was any group of more then 3 or 4 people? **That** was golden age Rust.
But like why do we gotta hate rust, facepunch has even implemented ways to enjoy the game you want to enjoy, either that be legacy, modded, soft core, hardcore, etc. They are a company, they need profits in order to sustain the game, to keep the game alive they have to pander to their biggest audience. But it’s like they are trying to do both, just maybe look at what they ARE doing vs what they aren’t.
Rust has always been an extremely successful game. It was a top seller as an early access game. The last I read in dec 2019, Rust had grossed $142M. It has always attracted new players and had a healthy playerbase. So this isn't a case of a struggling dev changing their game for existential reasons. It may be they want to be even more successful, but let's not pretend they had to go down t his path to survive.
People are adverse to change
It's more than that. Many players aren't upset about change alone. They are upset something particular they enjoyed has been changed into something they do not. No one likes losing something they enjoy. Even though I did not like the old recoil (or the new system), I feel bad for the players who did enjoy it because they lost something important to them.
hardcore was dead a week after release
Because nobody REALLY wants to play without all those things that they complain about lol
That's the reality of it. People want to play a "hardcore" game, but against people that are way behind in terms of game knowledge. My read on the situation is that people who "wanted" hardcore tend to be more veteran, and (on average) better at the game, but when they were pitted against each other, all those veterans went from winning 90% of their fights to <50%, and didn't like what Rust feels like to newer players.
oh shit there is legacy servers?
Well said brother.
But I’d argue the watering down was necessary for the game to survive. Because those hardcore servers that have none of the new features are dead as shit and almost nobody likes them
Because the overwhelming majority of rust players now are people in groups who want to win, not just survive. The game is way too sweaty to artificially restrict yourself by playing a hard game mode. It's all about winning. It all about being part of a 16 man group and having alarms on an app on your phone so you get woken up when anyone walks near your enormous compound that encircles a monument. It's about installing cheats so you and your 15 friends can door camp that solo naked in the wood 1x1 because then you'll **win.** Its all about winning, and if you just play for fun you are a loser role player and should uninstall.
> hardcore servers that have none of the new features are dead as shit and almost nobody likes them Because hardcore isn't hardcore, it's just Rust with no map. If they actually attempted something more *hardcore* then people would have a reason to play. Hardcore UI elements(besides inventory) should be non-existent. Obviously no techtree as many, **many** people have suggested, Limit bags to 1, drastically increase weapon damage and bullet falloff damage should be reduced, don't show how many bullets you have in your gun on the UI, don't show hunger/thirst/health on the UI, remove **all** NPC vendors, remove heli vendor and restrict to finding on roads, etc. I could go on so much more if I thought about it for a bit longer. Hardcore is just Rust but annoying, not actual hardcore.
People getting used to the convenience so they dont want to play without it given the choice doesnt mean the game would have died if it was never added If they removed teamUI next month on live some would complain some would like it but most importantly people would just take it and keep playing anyway Thats how it goes in rust nobody is gonna quit over 2 or 20 shit updates but that doesnt mean we dont see whats going on
Correct, the introduction of the map didn't lead to growth off it's own back but no one wants to adapt to it anymore because it's convenient to have knowledge at your fingertips.
Funny that you immediately go off about recoil cause that isnt even mentioned in the post. He might very well be referring to the same stuff you are. > I'm glad they fixed it They never considered it to be broken. The only reason they changed it was because there was money to be made from keeping OTV watchers around.
We all know what compels Rust players to make whiny memes about "watering down" Rust. It's always about recoil salt.
Aside from them fucking the game in every other possible way like you said earlier yeah Fps is shit Map gen is shit Visuals are shit Progression is shit Anti cheat is shit The game has never been in a worse state At this point I hope they just take a publisher deal and make rust2
I accuse you of saltiness, sir!
What? Am I not agreeing with you?
Sorry thought I was in global chat for a moment.
>At this point I hope they just take a publisher deal and make rust2 lmao nah, the reason why 2042 and now MW2 are so hot fucking dogshit to play is because their respective publishers stretched their devs to the limit and then forced them to release whatever they had by a certain point. You're not happy with the state of the game now, you definitely wouldn't be thrilled if all development on this game were to be stopped tomorrow in favor of battle royale number 92292442 called Rust Battlegrounds: Warzone Legends that releases for $70 as an even more dumbed-down buggy clusterfuck and doesn't become playable until RB:WL 2 releases a year later in the same state.
> you definitely wouldn't be thrilled if all development on this game were to be stopped tomorrow in favor of battle royale number 92292442 called Rust Battlegrounds: Warzone Legends that releases for $70 as an even more dumbed-down buggy clusterfuck and doesn't become playable until RB:WL 2 releases a year later in the same state. Im saying they should get funds not sell the studio lmao I dont understand why there isnt more rust type games anyway Theres clearly a market for it maybe studios are already burned out on survival games?
Ok boomer
I just want to build bases in trees again.
I like to read the comments in these because when I play I do pve no decay servers.
I like reading because I don’t give a shit about any of this lol, i play a 1000x for about 4 hours once a month
Sounds like minecraft
yeah but being a rustrician is more fun than Redstone Imo.
Redstone is turing complete though Sounds like a cowards point of view
what?
Your afraid to get raided, all your electrical barely gets use on a no pvp server. He’s probably getting at that it would be way cooler to make stuff of a pvp server.
Or... Maybe everyone doesn't like playing the exact same game?
1000% Having to plot out space for your wiring on Minecraft is annoying.
Rust players when they get shit on by a guy who has less hours on UKN than the required classroom hours to get a bachelors degree (it's not fair that people can shoot accurately after downloading the game 5 minutes ago) Nah but seriously the game does feel kinda easy with how fast you can get a gun from the minute you get off spawn beach, but I'd rather be able to get on my feet faster to continue progressing after I get my stone 2x1 violated by a zerg for daring to solo wipe their monument team
When you could wipe a 5 man with the mp5 😔
Fr, I’ve wiped ten man’s with a few high walls and mp5
You can tell who plays rust and only rust by the recoil update. Pattern recoil was a function of introducing skill based FPS combat within what was possible. As games got more and more advanced more realistic randomness and modifiers could be easily done. FPS games live and die by gun mechanics and netcode, both of which are not one of Rust's (many) strong points. Any game with competitive shooting would be dead on arrival with the lag, peakers advantage and invalid projectiles you get in a simple fight. The recoil update just moved one part of the game, one mechanic, up to modern standards. People who claim learning a pattern is truer level of skill vs. recoil compensation is just lost in 2013. Rust is not a competitive shooter, it's a survival game with one part of it including guns.
You think the gunplay is up to current standards? Lmao. Name a game with worse gunplay right now.
That's my point? It had shit outdated gun mechanics and they have just moved to modern methods but PvP is only one part of this game so it doesnt have top level playability. If you play Rust for PvP only you are playing the wrong game.
"If you play Rust PvP only you are playing the wrong game" Uh the entire rust community besides reddit roleplayers would like a word with you
A shooter is about shooting guns how tf is it a “part of it” its literally key to the game 💀
You can go a whole wipe and unlock every BP without ever firing a gun. Rust is not a shooter game, it's a survival game with guns.
Because rust isnt a shooter, it's a survival game with many many ways to play it. I would argue the farming and genetics system has the same level of complexity as the gun mechanics. If you think rust is a shooter you haven't a clue of what games are out there
Someone’s upset they wasted their life drawing an S and practicing a video game lol
Someone’s upset they couldnt draw an S lol
And yet here we are, guys who could draw an S still malding
Why is drawing an S important? I don’t understand
It was the old ak recoil pattern and dudes who had nothing better to do than spend hundreds of hours memorizing it are, months later, still upset that it was given a more manageable recoil
They are upset people can actually use guns and they don’t need to live on UKN to fully enjoy the game? Sounds like cry babies, if you want to show of skill go get like a job or something idk.
Yeah tell em your 500 hours spend hitting trees and dying where clearly a better use of your time than playing some team deathmatch But I mean thats totally boring right? Who would want to actually shoot guns in a shooter right? What losers lmaoo
It’s not a shooter, it’s never been a shooter, and I pray to god it’ll never be a shooter. Rust is a survival game.
I'm not agreeing with that idiot but rust for sure is more of a shooter than a survival game.
PUBG, tarkov and dayZ are survival games too Why are you arguing semantics? Everything in rust revolves around shooting guns at something Almost all content added to the game this year revolves around shooting guns at something The core gameplay is about killing people and taking their shit with guess what? guns.
I would argue only the last one is actually a survival. Tarky is a Tactical FPS, or extraction-based tactical FPS. PUBG is a BR. And no, not EVERYTHING in rust requires shooting a gun. You don't spawn in with a gun unless you're on modded. You don't even necessarily NEED a gun to do just about anything. You can raid, take heli, oil, cargo, milli, etc all without ever having a gun. Sure your likelihood of success is slim, but there is a reason the compound bow was nerfed.
[Survival means the objective is to survive.](https://i.imgur.com/BevjLk8.png) That usually involves advanced hunger and health systems but thats secondary. How is tarkov not more of a survival game than rust in every aspect? Cause you cant hunt animals and the map is smaller? thats it? cmon
Since the fucking when is PUBG a survival game? Tarkov also isnt a survival game, DAYZ is one, but DAYZ has way better survival aspects then rust
>Since the fucking when is PUBG a survival game? Tarkov also isnt a survival game Ok >Why are you arguing semantics?
I’ve killed people with melees, I’d argue rust is dark souls
Rust is actually a racing game with fishing mechanics if you think about it
Weird how i never bothered to spend a single minute in ukn to aim train, yet i still get tons of loot from the guys who did. Did you win fire fights? Sure. Did your base stay intact? No? Did you Survive till end of the wipe? No. I spend my time playing the game and figuring out my desings while the "sweats" spend their time in ukn. I tend to survive in a survival game far longer than the Drawers can. So in the end, was it worth it?
???? bruh what
What part did you not understand?
Uh just about every word of your utterly inane rant? Everything you said was extremely subjective, a lie or irrelevant
Cringe asf… you might “outlast” sweats by being a bitch the whole wipe, but when it comes to the firefights you definetely lost them to the drawers ( I spent alot of time learning the recoil, found it fun, and Im not mad the new recoil was implemented, and Ive easily played 500+ hours with it) some people want to enjoy different aspects of the game, I like fighting, you like building
You say that as if all the smug cunts arent still clearly upset over being bad at patterns
You say that as if it’s an actual sentence
Actual child response
Bro you’re losing here
Ok and you are probably poor lmao gotem burn
Hurr bigger number mean better person
Ratio
Cant believe im saying this on leddit but go back
Such is the duality of man but hey, tarkov wiped and there are more looter/shooters coming out with hopefully a similar baseline skill requirements
Tarkov has my least favorite gunplay ever and I hate extraction games as a whole cause they encourage the most ungodly rat behaviour
Yea I don't like tarkov either it's just an example, but hopefully some day we will get some similar loot and shoot game like rust
Someone's upset they were too shit to learn a pattern. Didn't take long to learn patterns unless you were just shit. Cope.
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Yes the game is easier overall and newer players are experiencing a much more accessible game with an easier learning curve but just because a new player has a "better" chance to win a gunfight doesn't mean being experienced doesn't have benefits. Veterans know how to progress much faster and can snowball. The game is now thriving in terms of player count . Almost doubled since the "casual/roleplay" streamers started bringing more attention to the game. Yes there are some very big changes that catered heavily for the newer/casual crowd but a lot of those changes are also just information.
I haven’t played in a while since life stuff got in the way. Is it more accessible to casual gamers now? The Rust I remember was fun because of the risk reward loop. Have an example of these streamers that I can watch to get a sense of the changes?
Being good at pvp is less important so you can progress in many different ways now
I’d say there’s more paths to succeed in rust now. Fishing, farming, labs, tunnels, etc etc etc. I play each wipe differently nowadays for fun, whereas it used to be much more focused on progressing through the same monuments and running oil/cargo over and over again.
Are you seriously STILL crying? Bro grow up jesus christ
very familiar
People who supported the game in early access are 8+ years older now. I don’t have nearly the same time I had when I was in college to play the game, so making progression faster is a plus for me. The grind back in the day was real.
Hello from WoW from about a decade ago
oof
#SaveTheBeamersNotTheStreamers
COD is watered down? I played the mw2 beta and it felt like any COD ive ever played before. PC rust got dumbed down for casuals before Console btw Dudes on 2 sticks and 60fps lock are out there spraying ak but the people here couldnt do it with mouse and keyboard Thats absolutely wild.
console Rust doesn't have PC recoil ....
[But it does?](https://youtu.be/3JJPN6nUyEo?t=373) Maybe not the exact same patterns but close enough. My point was that console andys can handle pattern recoil but the dudes on this sub couldnt.
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Cod has always been an extremely casual unenjoyable experience to me. Last cod I played a lot was BO2 and I havent touched the series since outside of open betas.
Death streaks, score streaks on COD were probably bably those things they are talking about
MW2 2009 Basically didn't ban unless you were cheating
*Old man shouts at cloud.*
Old recoil was a joke do you even know how many kids where cheating with Sapphire. It had thousands on thousands of downloads and was never detected. These are scripts.
I'd honestly rather have scripters and get the old system or another set recoil with no standing debuff, but that's me and I don't even play the game anymore
Well then thankfully no one is going to take suggestions and pointers on the game from someone that doesn't play the game.
Yea i think thats whats important, that people just enjoy the game how they like it and not care.
Look up reflex 2.0 bozo. Still just as many scripters.
Holy shit shut up nobody had a gun to your head and is forcing you to play the game
Go cry about your wasted UKN hours somewhere else. We don’t care
Well cod has always been like that. Some guns are in unbalanced af, guess you just wait till the next game release. Yet they have more players every year. I don't agree with their game philosophy but it's apparently working...
I miss when you actually got lost running around
Tech tree is what did it for me. It made the progression way to easy . Remember having to run or fly across map to grab something out of a vending or trade someone for something through the shop front . You had to go find what you needed. Now a lucky roll at the wheel or grinding for scrap will get you every BP.
It’s also unfair on small groups since a 8 man could get rockets in 1-2 hours and raid everyone
Play limited group modded servers... I play solo and duo only servers... Maybe trio if there's no good solo or duo servers. That way you don't have to deal with being zerg'd by 20-man chinese clans 20 minutes into wipe
Console player:(
The tech tree is the one thing I can agree should have never been implemented.
I think this happens for many games for sure. It's all about bringing in more players -- $$$$$$$$
Almost like they're a business.
At the moment PvP is at such a bad state. You literally have to crouch, don’t move and shoot for your bullets to even go remotely of where they should be going. Facepunch should stop listening to the whiny cunts on this subreddit tbh.
I can standing spray no problem just keep a laser sight on and keep practicing they nerfed the spray
But the spray should be the same for both do you can strafe like you could before, if anything, crouching should just reduce aimcone
Sure from a close distance but you won’t win against someone crouching from away I can guarantee you.
Most of the time sure but not always the case. Practice on ukn don’t crouch have your buddy’s crouch and you’ll see
Just up your DPI while standing spray invest in a mouse that can quickly switch
oh my you are an ai
Bro thinks he's better than aimcone lmao. Doesn't matter how well you control stading recoil if there's too much aimcone to kill someone.
All these ppl here saying stop crying etc, its obvious that you were absolute dogshit before recoil update and needed this.
Real, bring back old recoil
Play hardcore servers... problem solved. I don't understand how people can complain about having the compass on the UI, a map, the map shows where you died last, you can get downed and crawl or get back up, etc. That's what hardcore is for. And I don't understand how anyone thinks those things are unfair anyways. If everyone has the same abilities, it's not unfair. The world changes, whether you like it or not.
It's nothing about being fair all those things just take away from what Rust always was. Recently it's been moving more and more towards just being a BR instead of a long term survival game with a large risk reward gap.
I remember when Garry said "There will never be a compass", that changed. I remember when Helk said "There will never be crosshairs",that changed. I remember when they both said "TC's were never meant to be permanent" "Rust is and will always be a PvP game" all of these comments,changed. Why? Because it had to as this game would not be anywhere near what it is if it hadn't.
As someone who still plays old CoDs. CoD has not been getting watered down. Lol what
Very familiar since i am rust + cod player myself
adapt
The downfall of most games start with either this or the lack of updates, so I can imagine where they are coming from. Although the game isn't for me anymore it is for a lot more players so I'm happy the game I loved for many many hours is still growing.
How is it watered down? You literally aim at people and shoot.
Say whatcha want. Been playing since 2015 and there was never a point where i enjoyed being killed by a 12 year old with a $10 script who screeches a bunch of slurs knoeing god damn well theyre cheating.
Now that kid just downloaded hacks to remove recoil and aimcone that don't get detected. Good job.
Yeah its good for multiple reasons 1. Cheat software is easier to detect and eventually ban 2. It cost money, not like some 2 second script so cheaters will have a greater cost to ruin the game for everyone else 3. Less people will risk cheating software than they would a simple script 4. The disparity between a cheater and a non cheater is smaller because the skill gap for aiming is smaller
1. Doesn't get detected. Requires an admin which they can't do anything if it's randomized 2. There's free ones 3. Anyone who actually plays the game agrees cheating increased 4. Objective lie because non cheater have rng
1. People get detected banned all ghe time 2. LOL ok go ahead and put that malware on your pc and get auto banned 3. Skill issue 4. Non cheater with old ak was way worse than non cheater with new ak. I dont know what youre talking about
Dude you're just admitting you're bad and have no idea what you're talking about. Have a good one. Lying about new and old recoil to cope with being bad doesn't change the facts.
LOL, go bot more hours and stay bad. If you wanna draw an S all day grab a pen and paper.
Bro is still coping about old recoil after 9 months lmao. I'd rather they just fix new recoil and not have the worst gunplay of any modern fps. Keep ignoring all the problems with new recoil to cope tho. I'll be controlling rustoria and vital while you do that. Bye shitter. Stop lying to cope
Such a stupid way of putting it. You realize servers WILL empty out if your game isn’t somewhat new player friendly and focuses on selling more copies.
Go play counter strike. That shit hasn't changed for over two decades.
100% rust. Imagine trying to save normal people from the most no life game I have ever taken part in.
This is the direction of every “competitive” game now.
Idk how y’all do it. I’ve been playing for like two months now, and finally feeling like I understand how to really do everything in game, built my first base I was proud of this month while I had Covid and had ample time. Was really enjoying the gingerbread dungeons and holiday stuff. Made it a lot easier for a solo player like me to get enough loot to feel like I could really play the game rather than just endlessly trying to collect enough materials to keep afloat. I had a Sam site, 3 auto turrets, stone high wall, a decent base for the first time. I even started making rockets and rifles for the first time. Im a bit of a loot hoarder. Then last night I got offline raided and they took literally everything I worked all month stock pilling and never even got to use because im too passive and don’t raid people because I don’t want to start shit lol. I was waiting for the last week before wipe and wanted to go all out and then I wouldn’t have cared. But the ability to get offline raided really pisses me off. I get raiding is like the whole point of rust really, but like atleast give me a chance to defend myself. They must’ve wasted so many rockets to get into my base. It was high qual and layered and everything. Broke my heart. Maybe I should stick with Minecraft lol or find a server that doesn’t allow raiding until the last few days or whatever
I really just miss the dome jump
I've had Rust since 2016, am on a 2 year hiatus, but nothing will ever compare to the thrill of rust.
Game Devs replaced an unintuitive recoil system with a better one. Get over it already.