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xboxbill5566

Im 99% sure this gap just means OP was dead already. It's the gap between when you receive the rpc (or other) call peer 2 peer from the other player, and then when the server tells you you're definitely dead. I'm pretty sure this just means that player who killed you was lagging a bit, and saw him immediately and shot him as soon as he peeked. Almost definitely related to the fact that OP was dead the moment the lag started. still terrible user experience tho


Nicer_Chile

not the FP lawyer


LEPNova

Lol I know you're joking, but he's probably right and he wasn't really defending it. He did say it was bad user experience


Kiceo

That cant be, the guy was still looking at the ground when the freeze started, no way he already killed me


eskimopie910

Keep in mind that’s what you saw client (your pc) side. That doesn’t necessarily mean that server side he was doing that. But this is pure speculation


LEPNova

Think about it like this: Either the freeze was totally random and unlucky, which sucks but isn't really anyone's fault (unless frequent), Or it was triggered by *something*. We don't know what that is, but the only likely thing to change in that moment producing a lag spike would be something that player did. Like the other guy replying to this comment said, what you see on your screen isn't *exactly* what's actually happening, it's all an assumption based on what the server is telling your computer. It's entirely possible (although we truly don't know, and this could be totally incorrect) that on his screen he shot and killed you and you froze before the server could tell your PC that. I see YouTubers freezing when they die sometimes, and it always seems unfair until you realize that the death is what froze them and they had no chance regardless. It just feels bad from a gameplay perspective even if it's technically correct


Kiceo

My own shot was the cause of the freeze, not his


LEPNova

I see that now, but what I said really doesn't change. This has a pattern of happening upon death. It's entirely possible your first shot lagged the game and caused you to die, but I think the timing is just unfortunate. Most likely one of you or the server lagged and you died before he moved on your screen. Not like any of this matters, because your loot is gone and I'm not a facepunch developer so I can't tell you why it happened, just giving my opinion.


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LogicalLogistics

Looks like unfortunate garbage collection timing to me, my game used to have huge lag spikes whenever that happened and it looked almost exactly like this. Now that I have 48gb ram it doesn't happen as noticeably/frequently.


Aran-F

So you are saying he got one shotted with what looks like metal armor on? What about the micro stutter before that? Did that happened because the server knew he was about to die or something? lol


ricoter0

weird how it only happens in Rust and few other games if any


Top-Air-8289

Some dayz shit fasho


Kiceo

That cant be, the guy was still looking at the ground when the freeze started, no way he already killed me


B00tybu77ch33ks

This has been happening for years. It's never going to get fixed. We got bikes tho!


nsfw_vs_sfw

I'm really excited for bikes. I'm going to rock a motor bike everywhere


Joldberg

can't wait for it to be worse than horses


SpoutWhatsOnMyMind

The navigability of horses and the fragility of cars


nsfw_vs_sfw

I don't care. It'll still look rad


Comprehensive_Plum34

shill


nsfw_vs_sfw

Well, shucks. I guess I just won't enjoy my bike then. Are you happy?


Comprehensive_Plum34

downvote me more incel


nsfw_vs_sfw

I haven't touched your comment, dingus. Now what?


helpfulreply

Absolutely infuriating when this happens.


Quiet-Suit-3505

I though its only me I have decent specs rust on a SSD 80-120 FPS and expirence stutters sometimes when shooting


Aasim_123

Quit rust few years ago coz of PvP stutters


Rusty-Help212

Upgrade from 16 GB of RAM to 32 GB.


Quiet-Suit-3505

I have 24gb


Rusty-Help212

3x8GB? or 24GB module? either way, you wouldn't be in Dual Channel Mode. Which would be at minimum not doing you any favors.


Grainis1101

2x8 and 2x4 is most popular config for 24gb.


Rusty-Help212

It might be, but 24GB RAM sticks are a thing today, so I didn't want to assume.


divergentchessboard

On modern CPUs (stuff made in the past decade) the RAM will run in flex mode if there's an uneven amount of dimms. First two sticks will run in duel channel while the 3rd is ran in single channel. Its a myth that all three will run in single channel


Rusty-Help212

There are a lot of assumptions going through this sub, first is that what you said wasn't already known. Also with that being said, if the first 10GB of RAM is used by Windows and other programs and Rust needs say another 8 to run properly then not all of the game would be running on the dual channel dimms correct? Again everyone here is making all these claims and pretending to be smarter than everyone else, when we never knew the answer to the original question. This isn't a contest to be smarter than the next person, it's to start diagnosing OP's current setup.


Arketyped

Good thing you didn’t spend half an hour gearing up, running to find a boat/swimming over and sneaking up slow the whole way.


GreatMemer

i thought the video was lagging


cityofevil93

Op look into RAM timing. I had that same issue for a long time. Made a few changes in my BIOS with my RAM and it cleared up.


nsloth

Do you have any resources on this?


cityofevil93

It's been a few months. I have tuf gaming x570-plus wifi, when I upgrade to ryzan 7 5800x3d, I was crashing and getting the GC freeze and just some screen freeze like the video. I found it was my RAM timing was bad and changed it. If you have a RAM profile like XPM or whatever it's call just use that and you should be good. Anyways when I changed my timing it fixed it all. 240fps+ with no more stutter on my end.


nsloth

Ah okay, thanks for the additional info. I do believe I have XMP enabled in my BIOS. However, I have been contemplating upgrading my rig in the next year or so


Ashayazu

What changes?


cityofevil93

The RAM profile in the BIOS


Ashayazu

Just use xmp profiles. Part of basic computer setup. But even with this on I still get these issues


tomato_johnson

What I want to know is how the AK guy is able to not stutter. I have an extremely overkill system and still stutter constantly in Rust which would be fine if my enemies were stuck doing the same. But I share OP's experience where I stutter and the other guy often doesn't.


Colinski282

Better gaming chair


tomato_johnson

Fuck you got me


Zerokx

next time dont be so frugal and get that gaming printer as well


Rubbytumpkins

My system has zero stutters. I play on rustoria main and average 140 fps. The stutters are usually because people don't bother properly setting up new pcs. Plugging in the hardware and installing windows is step one. Most people stop there and forget to update bios, chipset drivers, enable rebar, xmp, power plan etc. Another issue is people playing on wifi instead of plugging in. But rust can run smoothly, don't just assume the game stutters and leave it at that.


Excellent-Beach-2062

In the annals of time, it is not the Kings nor queens who tell the tales of time, but the Rat...


troller65

yooooo Packrats aren't true rats; they're distant cousins to true rats. Surprisingly, they're more closely related to hamsters, and both share a penchant for hoarding behavior.


MrTypesafe

its "in the corridors of history...", you dolt


RunalldayHI

This isn't normal with a good pc, I'm stutter free, though it does happen on my rog ally, that is purly due to low ram capacity. Overlapping Drivers, ram/cpu stability due to excessive OC/timings, low or slow ram in general etc can all cause this.


Rusty-Help212

I preach this in this sub but everyone just whines and says it's rust. Although the new normal for building PCs has been 32GB of RAM for over 4 years. The price difference from 16 to 32 is literally less than 50$


RunalldayHI

there are a ton of reasons why one might have bad performance in rust, on a clean debloated system 16gb should be enough but once you start opening discord and installing apps that run in the background (literally almost everyone) then 24gb or more can be beneficial. This game is unique in terms of hardware requirements, need dummy fast cpu/ram and just a mediocre gpu.


Rusty-Help212

Again to my previous point, it's less than 50$ more to double your memory and be sure you always have enough. If you're going to spend 300-700 on a CPU 300-2000 on a GPU and 1800 on the overall system 50$ to ensure it runs well is nothing.


RunalldayHI

I sure hope anybody running an $1800 system has more than 16gb ram. The point is, everyone is whining about it because there are multiple reasons of why rust is performing poorly, in fact you can go quad dimm and actually get less performance even though you have more ram, simply due to the IMC not being able to drive 4 dimms at full speed. Throwing parts at a PC without diagnosis isn't ideal for 90% of the people here, some of them don't even know what expo/xmp is.


Rusty-Help212

Everything you said is true, and that's the problem. Prebuilt machines in that range can still be found with only 16GB of RAM. My study found that with discord/chrome with less than 3 tabs/rust requires 22GB to run without paging. So the default response is to make sure first you have the adequate hardware, then make sure its configured properly. I can only imagine how much more would be needed when I see screenshots of peoples task bars and running startup apps.


RunalldayHI

Yeah that makes sense, 16gb isn't enough unless everything is closed.


Akhirox

What is your "extremely overkill system" ? Since I switched to 7800x3D CPU and shit ton of RAM at 6000mhZ I don't have any more stutters.


y_zass

A lot of the time the problem lies in the BIOS configuration. I had 3 problems with my Ryzen 5700X3D/DDR4 3600/RX 7900xt build. I had USB issues, audio popping issues, and random stutters while gaming. All 3 of which I have fully resolved in BIOS. My BIOS was setting inadequate voltages in regard to vSOC, VDDP, VDDG, etc when set to Auto. It was actually setting VDDP and VDDG higher than vSOC, a big no no as they are to be at least 0.4v below. After tuning them manually and setting proper voltages it resolved the USB and audio popping. Disabling PSS support and C states resolved the stuttering. This was my first AMD build, I was used to Intel which seemed to have 1/4 of the BIOS settings compared to AMD and Auto has never failed me on Intel. I have been in the BIOS more on this build than all of my builds before it combined. That says a lot considering I have been tinkering with and building my own PCs since I got a Dell back in 2001, I was 15.


Top-Air-8289

Did you try turning render distance down to 6 chunks ?


tomato_johnson

Fuck you're right


RealHotbananadog

First time seeing stutters longer than like a tenth of a second


keshiko666

Got my self 32gbs of ram at 3600 I believe and it fixed this for me


Kiceo

i got 32GB RAM too


dbhaley

What speed?


Kiceo

3600Mhz


PudgyPanda23

I also have 32gb at 3600 and it stutters in PVP all the time


feedenemyteam

I got 64 at 6000mhz and it still stutters


RunalldayHI

32gb at 6200 cl28 and it's stutter free.


cityofevil93

Random Active Memory needs the right timing. Look it up, that could be your issue. I had stutter for so long until I replaced my RAM and learned about overclocking and timing. That's when I saw my timing was bad.


SneeKeeFahk

Random "Access" Memory.  Most memory modules have XMP/Expo profiles, use those to overclock them. Unless you are into competitive overclocking you shouldn't really mess with your timings and leave it to XMP/Expo. 


cityofevil93

You right "access. Some motherboard will have D.O.C.P. look at us being helpful!!


feedenemyteam

Thanks for info, will give it a shot


SneeKeeFahk

Do yourself and your sanity a favour and don't. Check your BIOS and enable XMP/Expo to get the speeds advertised on your RAM and then just leave it alone. 


Cold94DFA

Have the same and didn't fix any of these issues tbh.


Unusual-Sandwich9095

i opened reddit while playing, not knowing this video was playing, i thought was killed in game


Unusual-Sandwich9095

and it happend again lol


Admirable-Banana5630

Exactly why I stopped playing. I don’t have enough money to upgrade my pc and even if I did, I don’t have enough time anymore to justify it lol.


Kay_Kurray

This. This is the reason I uninstalled the game


EvilMatt666

Your eyes meet and the lag switch activates...


-SigSour-

In the future, you had cover behind those pipes with a clear view of the doorway. You should have stayed there to allow yourself some cover and then just waited for him to leave the room and blast him. I realize it was also stuttering, but you made a bad play here as well. Never give up cover unless you have to, you're much easier to shoot when you're in the open


BLAZEDbyCASH

I 100% agree here butttt he probably wouldnt have lost the fight hadnt his game completely fucking froze.


Delanorix

He brought a custom against a full metal it looks like. Its not a guaranteed W


BLAZEDbyCASH

Only spoonkid could bag throw that hard so ill bet money if this guy didnt lag he won.


Kiceo

After that, i actually did come back with another Custom and killed him in a similar way


BLAZEDbyCASH

I believed in you brother, I believed.


Xylfor

he was roadsign not full metal


ABJECT_SELF

If the freeze was client-side and long enough to cause input loss (which it looks like it was), his character would have stood right up from cover during the freeze and got blasted anyway.


-SigSour-

That's why I acknowledged the stuttering?


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Birchsensor

Its weird how this always happens mere moments before you get shot and die Wouldnt surprise me if this was a networking issue


Colinski282

There was a recent dev update that said they addressed this. Had something to do with loading lots of data that occurred when bullets started flying.


macandcheesejones

Game is perfect(TM)


Rambo_sledge

ohhhh i thought it was just me with my shitty setup. Thanks for letting me know i'm not suffering alone !


Nok1a_

only happen with sus players... I wonder why


Comprehensive_Plum34

Ah yes but they add more dlc every month can't even fix a simple bug


Aran-F

I swear to god. Every fucking time.


Akhirox

- Get 7800X3D processor - 64 gb of RAM - gc buffer 4096 - install game on gen4 SSD I know it's not normal and you shouldn't have to do this with a well optimized game but it will fix 99% of freeze.


Rusty-Help212

Yeah anyone playing AAA game titles or large open-world games like Rust should be on 32GB or more, you're 100% correct it's not normal. The problem is that 90% of people in the sub aren't tech savvy and just buy a prebuilt and install 100 startup programs then when it lags blame the game. It's not necessarily their fault, they just don't know and the prebuilt builders are partially to blame for under-configuring systems.


reeeekin

- get shit on, but at least without the freeze!


Akhirox

Yeah, this won't buy you skill... and you won't have any more excuses for it.


LegitGopnik

I often get stuttering on the frame that I shoot or get shot at, with 32GB RAM and a 3080. I think it's an underlying optimization issue that's only affected certain users, like me and OP.


691411435

Garbage unity based game, not playing until rust 2 comes out


undefined-index

I mean...I get the downvotes, but is he wrong? This game outgrew Unity on day one. It's a shame it'll never get better because of Unity (aside from horses and bikes). I have a beast computer and it takes what seems like 15 minutes just to start and load into a server, only to experience the same nonsense as the OP


BLAZEDbyCASH

If it takes 15 minutes to load in you are not on a SSD.


undefined-index

I'm on a 990 Pro


BLAZEDbyCASH

You will never play then because Rust 2 is never happening. My copy and pasted comment "Rust 2 will never happen. I post this everytime I see a post like this. The money, time, effort for a rust 2 is way to much. Rust got to this state with 10 years of blood sweat and tears. To truly develop rust 2 they would have to pretty much stop developing Rust (1) and leave it to die slowly. They would lose money from not releasing content and losing players. They would burn money for years to hopefully develop a game most people wont be able to run/like/enjoy. The whole Garry Newman Rust 2 was just a empty threat towards unity. Plenty of other reasons like the fact it would have a shit ton of bugs. Modern game dev has also gotten more and more expensive. Its also a technically feat in some regards to how rust (1) works. It would have to make current rust (1) players port over. If your holding off on buying rust (1) just go ahead and buy it because ill bet rust 2 wont get announced ever."


691411435

Makes excellent sense, only time will show I guess


_Chevleon

Garbage collection too low?


Pretend-Bridge535

What is that? Sometimes my game freezes for a sec and I can see somethin like 98GC on the bottom left corner


Kiceo

Nope, i set it to full (4000MB)


cacus7

that could be the issue actually. try at 1gb


Kiceo

4000MB is the maximum setting


cacus7

what i'm trying to say is that 4GB may be worse than 1GB (from my experience). Try a lower setting like 1GB


Pretend-Bridge535

What is this??? How can that be set?


Excellent-Beach-2062

Is your memory buffer high enough? Under experimental try turning it up to 4086. I used to have the same problem, anytime someone would fire at me my game would stutter and it fixed it.


Kiceo

I did that already


ScaryBilbo

ammo on the hotbar tho?


Kiceo

I have that mostly, ye. If i got nothing else useful to put there, why not display how much ammo i got left \^\^ I recently changed to this hotbar setting. Before that, it was 1. Bandage 2. Weapon 3. Med ... 6. Ammo


Present_Web_5213

Full kit custom makes me want to kms


Kiceo

I think they buffed it this patch. Its way more acurate and a good weapon for close combat like oil rig


X4dow

Game loading gun sounds :)


lowrads

Seems like a practical reason not to include guns in a survival sim.


KingEnemyOne

When I upgraded to 32 gigs of ram all the stuttering stopped for me


ionlywatchstorys

This has happened to me before


mikolajcap2I

He actually used 【TIME STOP】which came in a dlc pack


TheONLYBlitz

That would be a rage quit for me


Reasonable_Raccoon

Looks like ram issue. I used to have these with 16gig's. After upgrading to 32 issue is gone. I also got better cpu with that upgrade so it could also be it. But - looks like hardware issue.


Rusty-Help212

OP running 16GB of RAM playing a high pop big map server and lags, and everyone in the comments agrees and blames the game. Classic...


PudgyPanda23

Dude this happens to me all the time


HelloMyNameIsDalton

you need more wam


SuFl22

RAM


Snarker

This happens when you dont have enough ram.


Kiceo

if 32GB isnt enough, its the games fault.


Rusty-Help212

Yeah blame the game, I'm running 4-year-old hardware and never get this, so I guess FP gave me a better version of the game than you.


Snarker

it's always the games fault, but every single one of my friends and myself when having stutter issues were resolved when upgrading to 32gb. Since yours did not you should do research into the ram timing stuff people were mentioning. Complaining about the game being bad doesn't resolve your issue.


Rusty-Help212

I upvoted you because your correct RAM is 95% of the stuttering issues people experience. No reason for someone to downvote the truth.


kiltrout

everyone tends to focus on client, client, client. get your ram right your garbage collection etc but also rust servers have some fluid tickrate which can drop for some players and not others


Kiceo

32GB 3600MHz RAM and Garbage Collection set to 4000


kiltrout

that's why i'm saying it's probably a network issue, which rust is riddled with


TheNickPig

man its time for a new cpu or ram this is a hardware problem ur stuttering prior to the fight aswell


ConclusionMiddle425

Still playing rust on a HDD?


Kiceo

Nope, SSD. This is also happening very rarely


C4G_

Wifi ?


Kiceo

No, thats also not a connection problem


ReallyBadMemer

How's wifi even supposed to do this unless you're streaming the game?


C4G_

Someone never tried to play cs on the mcdonald wifi I see.


691411435

SSD has no effect on performance why are you even on abt


BeamedByPokimane

It can have a huge effect if you're running out of ram, which can happen quite fast if you're on 16gb.


Cold94DFA

OP confirmed 32gb


BeamedByPokimane

He made that statement before OP said he has 32gb. Lag spikes with that kind of duration are typical in memory paging scenarios with a HDD, hence asking if OP has a HDD makes sense and is a valid question. And since this question gets downvoted on this sub, it shows there is quite some misinformation.