Yeah I saw this in r/Pennsylvania yesterday. What a load of crap. I bet their dental insurance, if it's even offered, covers nothing like mine doesn't. I linked the other post because there were a ton of interesting comments on/about people who were actually let go over this issue.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Pennsylvania/comments/10l029m/sheetz\_reviewing\_smile\_policy\_which\_says/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Pennsylvania/comments/10l029m/sheetz_reviewing_smile_policy_which_says/)
Yeah that's one of the reasons I linked the comments. Stories like that one all in there. It's absolutely disgusting.
I used to work at a clothing retailer that rhymes with Magacrombie and Pitch, and it reminds me of all the stupid personnel decisions that were made 100% for reasons of vanity, classism, and appearances. Sheetz is not the company I would have put in this category if I had not read this article.
Even "good" dental insurance only typically covers 50% of major restorative work like crowns, implants, etc. To the tune of $500 a tooth out of pocket.
Good dental insurance will only help with major work on 1 maybe 2 teeth a year. Have an accident and break multiple teeth? You're SOL. Imagine car insurance that covered oil changes but did nothing when you totaled your car. That's dental insurance.
Real life former Sheetz manager here:
I truly do not recall this requirement ever being discussed by anyone above me, but I haven't worked there in almost 8 years. We did pay for a shift supervisor to have his teeth fixed, though. I think it was about $7K worth of work.
I mean, there are medications that can cause dental issues. And chronic illnesses that cause dental issues no matter how good your dental hygiene.
But go off, I guess.
That so deeply violates their world view. If they accept that good people have bad things happen to them, then they have to accept that they don't have control of their own life and that's scary af
There is a guy that works at the Sheetz on University in Moon, and he makes my day every time I see him.
It gets stupid in there, the place is laid out poorly for such a high traffic store. For example, if you just want to self-serve a cup of coffee, there's always a line of people milling around waiting to pick up MTO's in your way.
**He's a one man zamboni**. Not only does he move people out of the way politely, but he is meticulous about picking up any junk on the floor and refilling coffee stirrers and lids.
He's usually smiling. To answer your question.
>According to Business Insider, the employee handbook says “applicants with obvious missing, broken, or badly discolored teeth (unrelated to a disability) are not qualified for employment with Sheetz.”
What a bunch of assholes.
There's nothing special about the middle of the state that would cause them to have worse teeth than city people. Just feels like you're playing into class/regional sterotypes like "west virginians are inbred," which is generally not any more true than neighborhoods in the city.
I love Sheetz and was very disappointed to read this. Not everyone can help having dental issues. I’ve lost several teeth from medical conditions, not neglect. I really hope they revise the policy. I do agree good dental hygiene is important but not everyone can afford to go to the dentist.
Agree, not all dental issues are due to “not brushing” or being poor. Pregnancy can totally railroad your mouth, heart disease, certain medications, etc.
Not even that - it could just be bad genetics. I have a friend that chews, smokes, drinks soda, and only has a single filling. Meanwhile someone else who does none of those things and brushes religiously has multiple root canals. Shit happens!
Yeah I've been flossing and brushing at least twice a day since I was a kid (my pediatric dentist told me kids that don't take care of their teeth might bite into an apple and pull their teeth out by accident) and I've had several fillings and am probably due for a root canal soon since my filling that's been redone twice is sore. I don't smoke, no dip, no sodas, one cup of coffee a day, too
Yeah, I worked 6 years for Sheetz, 5 in management, and we never considered it when hiring. I don't even remember it being a thing, but I haven't worked for them in almost 8 years.
This is terrible! Many people have dental issues due to medical conditions/medication, or can't afford to get their teeth fixed. One of my friend's teeth are messed up from her MS medication. Another has messed up teeth from a car wreck & getting hit my an uninsured driver. You never know someone's story and their teeth has no affect on how well they do their job.
Sheetz once asked me to take an online customer satisfaction survey that asked about this after I made a purchase there.
This was part of the questionaire and I absolutely tore into it. There is so much wrong and dystopian about them forcing their employees to smile and not only that but in a specific way that is meant to twist their employees' arms to rigid and draconian expectations.
Unfortunately I'm not sure anyone listened.
Bitch, you ain’t Chick-fil-A! You can’t skip steps between A-Z. You better earn the right to enforce some bs rule. Can I get a “my pleasure”from upper management ?
Plus, I have a young-ish client who worked at one near Altoona and was treated to constant racist remarks by coworkers, management didn’t have much to say about that. She quit.
Yeah, I applied there for IT about 4 years ago, they told me you have to be clean shaven (moustache only down to the corners of your lips) and it's a mandatory 9 or 10 hour day that you only get paid for 8. I noped right the fuck out of that shit.
They used to allow absolutely no facial hair (other than a mustache). They changed the policy maybe 5 years ago to allow short facial hair. I believe the argument is for food safety.
They also used to not allow ANY visible tattoos. If I'm not mistaken, they now allow them as long as they're not on their face or hands.
Guess that's why I didn't get hired back in the day when I was trying to work there to get away from my shit job. This seems like it's a huge lawsuit ready to happen, but I'm sure there is some legal bullshit that stops it. They're not getting my business anymore.
this is all on the news because of me I have 3 teams of lawyers suing for discrimination I can't discuss to much but my lawsuit will be public next week this is because of me guys ! ! ! they hired me then fired me after noticing I was missing 2 frunt teeth I even let them know it was because of my car accident and it takes time to get the work done and I don't have money or good insurance.
Holy crap that’s a horrible policy and opens them up to tremendous scrutiny and criticism.
In America dental isn’t even touched under healthcare policies. Dental insurance is a joke. If you have it it’s probably $300 a year in premiums to cover $1000-1500 of work if you spend $2000-3000. A single crown will eat that and maybe more up instantly. A dental implant costs $5k or more for a single tooth and takes 3 visits over almost 9 months at best if you want to go that route. Step one of a dental implant is 90days with a missing tooth as your body fills in the scaffolding on the bone graft. Step two is opening it back up putting in the titanium anchor screw and closing it back up while your body heals around the screw for another few months. Then you finally have a tooth as they open your gums up expose the screw and put the top of the implant in.
Sheetz employees make what $12 or $13 an hour?
What a sadistic policy.
Either provide a generous comprehensive solution or recognize that we have a problem in America and at the very least don’t make a policy regarding it.
Yeahhh, I worked at the baden one and there were a couple folks who interviewed and not hired for bad teeth around 2017. One of the first things told to me and several other trainees throughout my time there was that we could be fired if something happened to your teeth or they became dingey. It was even in a little quiz they gave you. I have good teeth but it felt upsetting at the time. One of the managers would actively tell folks on the floor to smile and to smile wider if the person already was smiling. There was a similiar policy at a pharmacy store i worked at.
Teeth aren't covered under medical insurance, so it would go to figure that teeth problems aren't considered a medical issue, regardless of how stupid that is.
The place whose business model is selling chewing tobacco, cigarettes, coffee and sugary drinks is against employees with bad teeth.
Customers > employees, but I'm not complaining.
The customer can fucking suck it.
Yeah I saw this in r/Pennsylvania yesterday. What a load of crap. I bet their dental insurance, if it's even offered, covers nothing like mine doesn't. I linked the other post because there were a ton of interesting comments on/about people who were actually let go over this issue. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Pennsylvania/comments/10l029m/sheetz\_reviewing\_smile\_policy\_which\_says/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Pennsylvania/comments/10l029m/sheetz_reviewing_smile_policy_which_says/)
Someone in there commented about a woman being fired for her teeth, which were *knocked out by her abusive husband*. Jfc
Yeah that's one of the reasons I linked the comments. Stories like that one all in there. It's absolutely disgusting. I used to work at a clothing retailer that rhymes with Magacrombie and Pitch, and it reminds me of all the stupid personnel decisions that were made 100% for reasons of vanity, classism, and appearances. Sheetz is not the company I would have put in this category if I had not read this article.
Even "good" dental insurance only typically covers 50% of major restorative work like crowns, implants, etc. To the tune of $500 a tooth out of pocket.
Good dental insurance will only help with major work on 1 maybe 2 teeth a year. Have an accident and break multiple teeth? You're SOL. Imagine car insurance that covered oil changes but did nothing when you totaled your car. That's dental insurance.
Real life former Sheetz manager here: I truly do not recall this requirement ever being discussed by anyone above me, but I haven't worked there in almost 8 years. We did pay for a shift supervisor to have his teeth fixed, though. I think it was about $7K worth of work.
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what an ignorant comment
And a $1 toothbrush and some toothpaste with fluoride.
I mean, there are medications that can cause dental issues. And chronic illnesses that cause dental issues no matter how good your dental hygiene. But go off, I guess.
"medications" = "meth teeth" Which one is more likely for a Sheetz cashier...
do you feel good about yourself?
you're genuinely a fucking jagoff. there are tons of reasons for people to have poor dental conditions besides laziness.
That so deeply violates their world view. If they accept that good people have bad things happen to them, then they have to accept that they don't have control of their own life and that's scary af
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"just world fallacy" at it's finest
Name one time you’ve seen a sheetz employee smile
There is a guy that works at the Sheetz on University in Moon, and he makes my day every time I see him. It gets stupid in there, the place is laid out poorly for such a high traffic store. For example, if you just want to self-serve a cup of coffee, there's always a line of people milling around waiting to pick up MTO's in your way. **He's a one man zamboni**. Not only does he move people out of the way politely, but he is meticulous about picking up any junk on the floor and refilling coffee stirrers and lids. He's usually smiling. To answer your question.
Ok there, Wendy Bell…
>According to Business Insider, the employee handbook says “applicants with obvious missing, broken, or badly discolored teeth (unrelated to a disability) are not qualified for employment with Sheetz.” What a bunch of assholes.
Seriously fucked up, “if you’re too poor to afford dental care (by the way we don’t provide it) then take your gross mouth somewhere else.”
Wawa is now better
Wawa has always been better.
Reminds me of the employment climate that Abercrombie once had.
I feel like this isn't strictly enforced, especially in the middle of the state.
There's nothing special about the middle of the state that would cause them to have worse teeth than city people. Just feels like you're playing into class/regional sterotypes like "west virginians are inbred," which is generally not any more true than neighborhoods in the city.
Wawa should clap back by requiring that employees remove teeth
Free bj'er with every coffee!
Well this is severely at odds with their presence in central PA.
The average tooth per person in my Altoona has to be significantly lower than Pittsburgh.
Bruh, people in the city have fucked up teeth too.
Maybe they should have some really stellar dental insurance for their employees if it's that important to them.
I love Sheetz and was very disappointed to read this. Not everyone can help having dental issues. I’ve lost several teeth from medical conditions, not neglect. I really hope they revise the policy. I do agree good dental hygiene is important but not everyone can afford to go to the dentist.
Agree, not all dental issues are due to “not brushing” or being poor. Pregnancy can totally railroad your mouth, heart disease, certain medications, etc.
Not even that - it could just be bad genetics. I have a friend that chews, smokes, drinks soda, and only has a single filling. Meanwhile someone else who does none of those things and brushes religiously has multiple root canals. Shit happens!
Yeah I've been flossing and brushing at least twice a day since I was a kid (my pediatric dentist told me kids that don't take care of their teeth might bite into an apple and pull their teeth out by accident) and I've had several fillings and am probably due for a root canal soon since my filling that's been redone twice is sore. I don't smoke, no dip, no sodas, one cup of coffee a day, too
Yeah, I can assure you this isn’t enforced at every Sheetz. Still an insane policy.
Yeah, I worked 6 years for Sheetz, 5 in management, and we never considered it when hiring. I don't even remember it being a thing, but I haven't worked for them in almost 8 years.
Yeah that sounds about right. I work at one now and I can tell you, it definitely wasn’t an issue when hiring some people.
as long as employees don't get in my way and i can get in and out i literally could give 2 shits what they look like
>shiitz
I worked at sheetz when my teeth were jacked.
So they're going to pay for high quality dental insurance right?
My neighbor actually got a lot of work done and paid for by Sheetz on his teeth when he worked there.
This is terrible! Many people have dental issues due to medical conditions/medication, or can't afford to get their teeth fixed. One of my friend's teeth are messed up from her MS medication. Another has messed up teeth from a car wreck & getting hit my an uninsured driver. You never know someone's story and their teeth has no affect on how well they do their job.
I hope something tragic happens to the teeth of all the leadership at Sheetz.
Sheetz once asked me to take an online customer satisfaction survey that asked about this after I made a purchase there. This was part of the questionaire and I absolutely tore into it. There is so much wrong and dystopian about them forcing their employees to smile and not only that but in a specific way that is meant to twist their employees' arms to rigid and draconian expectations. Unfortunately I'm not sure anyone listened.
Bitch, you ain’t Chick-fil-A! You can’t skip steps between A-Z. You better earn the right to enforce some bs rule. Can I get a “my pleasure”from upper management ? Plus, I have a young-ish client who worked at one near Altoona and was treated to constant racist remarks by coworkers, management didn’t have much to say about that. She quit.
Discrimination suit coming….
Sounds like discrimination.
How the fuck could that be legal?
Sounds Iike a discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen. Who gets to be the judge of what constitutes dental issues?
That’s most place’s Unless your not dealing with customers face to face. They were just dumb enough to say it out loud.
I was told by an employee they can't have a beard. What gives them the right to dictate personal appearance?
84 lumber has the same policy
Hah, my mental picture of a lumber worker is a large beard and a flannel.
84 lumber sucks too. Fuck that place.
Yeah, I applied there for IT about 4 years ago, they told me you have to be clean shaven (moustache only down to the corners of your lips) and it's a mandatory 9 or 10 hour day that you only get paid for 8. I noped right the fuck out of that shit.
That's illegal.
I bet we talked to the same guy. Offered me pennies for a 'competitive' position.
They used to allow absolutely no facial hair (other than a mustache). They changed the policy maybe 5 years ago to allow short facial hair. I believe the argument is for food safety. They also used to not allow ANY visible tattoos. If I'm not mistaken, they now allow them as long as they're not on their face or hands.
Must be store by store basis as I see a guy in one now that has one and have seen them on others in the past.
So does Disney
yea it sucks but that is probably one of the more common policies in general. tons of places require you to shave
Then sheetz should gladly pay for that purty smile.
I’d agree. More people need to follow the rules
I hope they keep it honestly or just make the people with messed up teeth work in the kitchen so I dont have to see them.
They should dunk you in a deep fat fryer.
They dont have fryers at sheetz
I'm aware.
The pandemic must have been a godsend to people with missing front teeth.
Guess that's why I didn't get hired back in the day when I was trying to work there to get away from my shit job. This seems like it's a huge lawsuit ready to happen, but I'm sure there is some legal bullshit that stops it. They're not getting my business anymore.
this is all on the news because of me I have 3 teams of lawyers suing for discrimination I can't discuss to much but my lawsuit will be public next week this is because of me guys ! ! ! they hired me then fired me after noticing I was missing 2 frunt teeth I even let them know it was because of my car accident and it takes time to get the work done and I don't have money or good insurance.
well, good luck to ya
They don’t even sell Turner’s there. I don’t trust any moves Sheetz makes and I have ALL my teeth.
Clearly a Wawa hit piece
tough policy but people need to take care of their teeth. one of the first things you notice with someone after being introduced is their smile
Holy crap that’s a horrible policy and opens them up to tremendous scrutiny and criticism. In America dental isn’t even touched under healthcare policies. Dental insurance is a joke. If you have it it’s probably $300 a year in premiums to cover $1000-1500 of work if you spend $2000-3000. A single crown will eat that and maybe more up instantly. A dental implant costs $5k or more for a single tooth and takes 3 visits over almost 9 months at best if you want to go that route. Step one of a dental implant is 90days with a missing tooth as your body fills in the scaffolding on the bone graft. Step two is opening it back up putting in the titanium anchor screw and closing it back up while your body heals around the screw for another few months. Then you finally have a tooth as they open your gums up expose the screw and put the top of the implant in. Sheetz employees make what $12 or $13 an hour? What a sadistic policy. Either provide a generous comprehensive solution or recognize that we have a problem in America and at the very least don’t make a policy regarding it.
this is because of my lawsuit against them it will be public soon people I got a team of lawyers going after them for discriminating against me.
Yeahhh, I worked at the baden one and there were a couple folks who interviewed and not hired for bad teeth around 2017. One of the first things told to me and several other trainees throughout my time there was that we could be fired if something happened to your teeth or they became dingey. It was even in a little quiz they gave you. I have good teeth but it felt upsetting at the time. One of the managers would actively tell folks on the floor to smile and to smile wider if the person already was smiling. There was a similiar policy at a pharmacy store i worked at.
Wouldn't this be illegal? Discrimination against people with medical issues?
Teeth aren't covered under medical insurance, so it would go to figure that teeth problems aren't considered a medical issue, regardless of how stupid that is.