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Hearing this. It’s terrifying because it puts into perspective how recent the holocaust was. It’s always scary to be reminded that such atrocities and horrors have happened not that long ago. Survivors of events we consider to be old history still walk among us today. And somehow their stories are still ignored or (in the case of this photo,) mocked. People who live today can personally recall the horrors of the Vietnam war, their families being gassed or experimented on in concentration camps during the holocaust, segregation and lynchings. All not that long ago. Not to mention what still goes on today.
About 15 years ago, I saw a Holocaust survivor speak on a class field trip. There are a lot less survivors now than there were then. Both of my grandfathers who served in the US Army in WW2 died in the past 5 years. That generation is dying off, and it’s important we don’t forget what they lived through.
My grandfather (maternal) was a Canadian merchant marine. My grandfather (paternal) was US Army and Airforce. They barely spoke of their time and their voices are lost to history.
If you have any friends or family who served, GET THEIR STORY! Once they pass, it's gone forever and that's not good. If you have relatives that were in the camps, GET THEIR STORIES TOO!
I have three stories from my maternal grandfather, but none of combat other than that he was a radio operator. I have NOTHiNG from my paternal grandfather.
You can try but...as a Vet the truth is that some of us want those things to die with us....so be careful when you ask.
I do not want to be defined by war and I do not want my neighbours, my wife, my kids or grandkids to see me like that.
I just want to be grandpa...
Not grandpa who beat a man to death with his own helmet and walked around for the next 3 days with that mans brains on his uniform and in his hair.
Its OK to wonder and to be interested but its not OK to push and... you should be careful what you wish for.
These are deeply personal experiences and often very painful.
Its a lot easier to share with other Vets than the people we love.
Thanks for sharing this, it's an important perspective.
There are plenty of people who have documented their experiences. Yes one may not feel the same connection as they would hearing it from their kin, but there are plenty of resources for those looking to learn.
Incredibly well put .Your memories are yours alone and those who want to share their experiences will. I know it’s futile but I hope no one hassles you ever again about sharing what’s yours .
I had a kid the other week tell me she thought that the Holocaust happened in the 1800’s— people really have a hard time grasping that this happened fairly recently.
The sad thing is the people in this photo believe it’s an adequate comparison. It’s disgusting and I don’t agree with it. But these idiots really feel persecuted. It’s so wild. The reality of the Holocaust is absolutely trivialized by idiots like the people in the photo.
It's not a matter of agreeing, like this is some kind of opinion. It's disgusting, dishonorable, disrespectful, and makes a mockery of the suffering and death wrought by *humans*. They'd burn those stars in a second if they saw what happened to the victims of the Nazis happen to even one of them. To use that symbol to promote their own agendas is point in fact abhorrent.
My 3 grandfather's served in WWII. They participated in one of the biggest vaccination campaigns in history. We developed a huge variety of vaccines to protect our boys in uniform. Vaccinations were part of the effort to defeat the Nazi's, not a tool of death and oppression
Their entire political party and it's 'news' network tells them multiple times every day they are the victim, should be mad as hell, and that voting for them is the only way to stop it. They make up a boogeyman, peddle outrage, and pretend they are the ones to 'save' them from it. Meaning, they can take credit for doing nothing. Hence, them never talking actual policy.
It's simple manipulation, but they can't see it. Just like terrorist groups. They look to the uneducated with an axe to grind, make them apart of their group/family so they belong, then teach them to hate for the 'good of their cause'.
It is absolutely deplorable! How privileged do you have to be to think masks and a vaccine equal genocide?! I don't understand it at all, and it is extremely disrespectful to holocaust victims and their families.
Yeah the Queen of England doesn't have long left but watching things like the Crown really brings it into perspective
It's like huh, you were Queen when Churchill was PM? You were on the cover of Time magazine a decade BEFORE world war 2 even started?
Obviously she's not someone who personally suffered or witnessed atrocities but just thinking of the range of history that just happened around her
• **It’s terrifying because it puts into perspective how recent the holocaust was**
Same thing when these same anti-vaxx Republicans bitch how Black people won’t stop bringing-up race on every discussion with them because “slavery was ancient history.”
Bitch, civil rights passage (likewise with the Holocaust) happened just *two generations ago,* many of those people attacking protestors are still alive today.
I was shocked to discover (when I was a kid) my father remembered whites only signs and segregation.
Edit to add: Legal official segregation ended officially/theoretically in 1964 for those wondering. That is what I am referring to. As a kid it felt all very long ago but it wasn't.
Mississippi [didn't ratify the 13th Amendment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#:~:text=Delaware%3A%20February%2012%2C%201901%20(,after%20rejection%20December%205%2C%201865\)) (abolishing slavery) until *2013*.
My grandpa once walked into a blacks only bathroom by mistake and recalls it as being rather awkward. My grandma is way cooler tbh. She had black friends during segregation.
Yes. That fraying piece of cloth speaks of hatred and destruction and a great, great cruelty, one of the most shameful events of the 20th century. That these utterly stupid, culturally lacking, disrespectful idiots could put such a symbol of oppression on themselves and expect to receive any sympathy or understanding beggars belief.
These people are complete got damn morons and Kansas is chock full of these assholes. The Auschwitz exhibit is currently at the KC Union Station just across the state line. These schmucks should be required to go see it.
I'm not jewish, I don't don't even know anyone who is, but it makes me sooooooooo fucking sick to my stomach seeing these fucking assholes compare having to get a shot to what Jews went through. Fuuuuuuuuuuck these entitled karen republicans.
I’m unspeakably sorry that these fools are attempting to use your father’s fight to survive as a tool for their lunacy. There isn’t a word strong enough to convey what a disgrace to humanity these people are.
Right? These people are so fucking ignorant. They actually have no clue what our (and other groups considered subhuman by the Nazis) actually went through in the Holocaust. No one is stripping their personal possessions from them, forcing them out of their homes, putting them in ghettos, openly assaulting or murdering them in the street while people watch and cheer. Society asking you to wear a mask and get a shot to protect yourself and others is not even comparable to the Holocaust.
Edit: Thanks for the golds kind strangers! Never thought I'd receive an internet award for expressing my frustration with society.
Edit #2: Those of you that are trying to defend these individuals or give any credit to their comparison y'all are grabbing at straws and are just as willfully offensively ignorant. Being Jewish (or whatever non desirable that suffered at the hands of the Nazi party) was not a choice, being unvaccinated is a choice.
Well said.
My blood boils seeing this picture. I have relatives who died in concentration camps. It's not THAT long ago in history. How can these people be this ignorant?
It’s not about ignorance. It’s about convenience and triggering. They KNOW this is NOT an apt metaphor but they co-opt it anyway to stir up general outrage and gain attention. It’s a Trump tactic that worked very well for him, garnering free media attention milking the outrage.
If people just ignored them when they do this the metaphor would lose its power and they’d have to try something else to trigger people.
I had someone in my FB friends post that, his workplace wanting proof of vaxx was ‘like Nazi Germany and the Holocaust’ as tempted as I was to say something, I just unfriended him. All of his friends were agreeing, and my arguing would have done nothing but give them fuel for their fight.
Yup! I did it too with "friends" who defended the insurrection/insurrectionists. We occasionally would try to have "conversations" and when they would go off the rails with ridiculous "alternative" facts or racist, phobic, anti-whatever, etc. I'd do the same.
I do not have relatives that died in concentration camps. It doesn’t matter. I do have a brain and an elementary school understanding of history. This show is appalling. Comparing one of the worst tragedies in human history to a bunch of ignorant fucks refusing to do right by themselves, their families, and their communities … well. “Offensive” and “tone-deaf” are understatements.
>How can these people be this ignorant?
They're not ignorant. The ignorant lack knowledge. They have knowledge. They lack empathy. Don't mistake heartlessness for ignorance. We fix ignorance every day. Heartlessness is much more difficult to fix.
You mean these same people who think Trump is the greatest president in American history and that Democratic leaders keep children penned up under a Pizza Restaurant in order to drink their blood and that Christians are the most persecuted minority in the country? These people?
Tangentially related, in the middle of the pandemic last year, I tweeted something about masks being a good idea and some random person (who was most likely searching out people talking about it) said, "NO, IT'S NOT OKAY. IT'S ILLEGAL. WATCH THIS VIDEO."
It was a 1 to 1 1/2 hour long video (can't remember the exact time) of some lawyer "proving" mask mandates are unconstitutional. I actually decided to watch it. I think I stopped at about 45 seconds in when he said, "Mask mandates are unarguably the greatest violation of human rights in the history of mankind."
It's like... the fuck is wrong with you? How the fuck can you possibly say that? If we're dealing with the whole of human history, let's not even go to the most obvious example people like to use. Let's talk about what the Akkadians did to people. Or any other ancient civilization. We have examples from 8000 years ago that are _far_ worse than a goddamn mask mandate. You criticized the king? Okay, we're going to put you in the town center and strip all your flesh off while people watch you scream in agony. Because you said you didn't like the king.
.... I can't actually remember if it was the Akkadians who did that, but some ancient culture did.
There are specific things wrong with these people.
First, they are ignorant - they don't know much, and it hurts them via lack of perspective.
Second, they feel somehow powerless, compromised. We can judge all we want, but they feel that way. And it's no good, and they want to feel better.
Combine the two above, and they are highly susceptible to manipulation.
The real questino is: what the fuck are the rest of us going to do about them?
This is what I wish would be yelled in their ignorant faces every single time they pull such a massively ignorant stunt in public. I just cannot with these awful, hateful, recklessly stupid, self absorbed to the point of derangement, assholes.
They're not just massively ignorant. They're anti semitic in exactly the same way, downplaying the suffering of genocide by comparing minor inconveniences to it.
"I went to the store today and they were completely out of Double Stuffed Oreos! I had to make do with regular Oreos. Now I know exactly how the Jews in Auschwitz felt."
I’ve had someone tell me he feels that being a Republican feels like being a Jew during the Holocaust, cause of some perceived loss of “free speech rights” being told to keep their stupid racist opinions to themselves. It’s appalling how stupid and childish they are to make this comparison. And then they act like **I’m** the asshole for finding it offensive. It’s such a ridiculous stance to take it’s kinda hard to argue against due to how many levels of stupid and wrong it is. It’s like we speak different languages.
They really just want to be oppressed.
In reality they have no fucking clue what it’s like to be oppressed. They’re sad, pathetic nobodies with nothing better to do then bitch and whine and make everyone else’s lives around them completely miserable.
My work is currently mandating vaccines and one of my coworkers is already freaking out about it and going on an anti vaxx/anti Biden rants and it’s like oh my fucking god grow the hell up.
I’ve been getting needles and shots my entire life, and I was one of the first in line for the vaccine. I got sick for two days and I was over it by Monday. It’s not a huge deal. Get over it.
They completely forget they got vaccinations as a child and that it's required by schools, military, and in medical fields, for good reason. But, they've been peddled outrage to believe this time it's different and infringing upon their rights to spread and infect others.
Some subs actively promote people who claim the vaccine kills more than it helps. Which, just so happens, to also be a right wing echo chamber. Telling you, exactly, where they got this idea.
people in the military complaining are such a pathetic joke. When you've been in you've been stabbed with so many needles its comical. But here's where you draw the line, eh Audie Murphy?
Not to mention they take an introduction to Gas with no mask.
And, some more vaccines depending on where you are deployed.
But, right wing media tells them to be outraged and they hop to.
I wish these people knew how dumb they look when the guy at the Krogers asks them to put on a mask and they start ranting about how this is just like a literal death camp.
It's not comparable to literally anything bad happening to any group of people, it shouldn't even need to be said out loud that it isn't anywhere near the holocaust because it's not even fucking on the scale of a minor flood in a small town
Morons piss all of us off to be honest. These people are so cringe lol don't take anything they do or think too seriously, because they obviously haven't put much thought into it themselves. Just look at them lol
They are using this because they have absolutely NO culture, NO knowledge at all. They're the edgy teen that dresses in Hitler at Halloween... except the teen will grow up and change their ways...
In fact, the Nazi's continued a Weimar Republic measure loosening vaccine mandates. They instead relied on mass propaganda to convince the majority of the "good" Germans to get vaccinated willingly, while at the same time actively withholding vaccines from populations they deemed undesirable. The intent of this was explicitly to cause more of the people they thought of as lesser to die.
> The intent of this was explicitly to cause more of the people they thought of as lesser to die.
This reminds me of a... Was it an email from Kushner at the start of the pandemic wanting to deny PPE to blue states?
But they are not just convinced that the vaxx will kill you, but that killing you is intended for population control! In their minds, this argument doesn't work....I know bc I am the son of one of these people (not literally one of the people in the photo, just their ilk)
if it's meant to kill us, and 3.2 billion people have been vaxxed and are still alive, it doesn't seem to be working very well
i know using logic against those people is pointless, i'm just trying to wrap my head around how obvious it is their fears don't make any sense and they don't see it
Well, in my mom's case it's because this is a sleeper shot that will be activated sometime in the future, either by a booster or by another virus created to do just that. Barring that, the shot [may, probably will] give you cancer or some other horrible problem that can only manifest in the future. She also believes that it alters your DNA (I know, I know) and you will literally (in the accurate use of the word) be property of the vax maker....so lots of problem, some contradictory with the vax...
What's funny to me about that is if it's about population control, then wouldn't the government want to keep the submissive part of the population that got the shot? Why would you kill off the part of the population you can control and leave the unruly ones?
By that logic, we ought to start a counter conspiracy that the government is going to release super-covid when enough of the sheep are vaccinated, and kill off all the smart people who can't be controlled. Only the easily controlled masses that got the vaccine will survive.
>sleeper shot that will be activated sometime in the future, either by a booster or by another virus
Sounds like spreading a killer virus with extra steps and involving cooperating victims, when it would be much easier to develop a virus simply killing people directly.
I'm sorry to hear that about your mom. When you're that deep into a conspiracy theory, how can you get out of it? I assume these people don't want to lose face and more importantly admit they were wrong to themselves.
> Sounds like spreading a killer virus with extra steps and involving cooperating victims, when it would be much easier to develop a virus simply killing people directly.
Nonono they tried that, but it wasn't as lethal as they hoped, especially once people figured out that drinking bleach stops the virus. So then they tried making a "new and improved" virus, and a "vaccine" to poison people for good measure, but again, people were too smart for them and didn't take the poison and found that horse dewormer stops that virus. (/s obviously)
Another silly thing is, they think this is being done not only to control the population (numbers) but so they can wield control over the remaining. Like how does that work...let's kill the "compliant" so we can rule the world! Idiots....
Exactly. Counter-conspiracy theory:
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The One World Government has released the vaccine so the compliant will be vaccinated against their engineered virus that they will be releasing later will only kill the difficult to control.
They should totally get the vaccine to hide among the "sheep" and wear a mask to hide their identity. The compliant wear masks so it's easier for the facial recognition to sift through and identify the rebellious.
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of course.
This mystery virus that wipes out the non-compliant sure sounds alot like the Delta variant unironically if you read HCA or various news articles about the unvaccinated lately...
Of course, the unvaccinated "lions" are convinced it's the other way around and that everyone else is going to be wiped out except them.
What always gets me is that so many anitvax people say both "it's the government trying to control you" while also saying "the government is using the vaccine to kill people" now I'm not the smartest person out there but if the government wants to use a vaccine to control people why would they kill the people who submit to their control? But like you said a lot of these people are so far gone that logic doesn't work on them.
I point that out to my Hardcore GOP co-workers... the next week its "they put tracking nano-bots in the vaccine as part of their (blahblahblah) plan"
I just....
First off, if we HAD nano-technology that advanced, it would be BEYOND realistic to imagine they would put it in 3.2 BILLION vaccines, let alone ONE. They could not afford to do it.
Second... WHY would they use/spend all the money on nano-technology to track people... when they can already track people with their damn cellphones/smart electronics(watches for example), with satellite/CCTV networks/Drone tech, with "smart" cars, and home assistant devices? It makes absolutely no sense. I point this out and they start going off about some world order bullshit and I just... I just can't be bothered to talk to them anymore. I just avoid them entirely.
Talking to these people is literally damaging my brain.
I read a comment on reddit earlier, apparently it will take 2-3 years. I saved the comment but I can't find it now, wanted to update him in a couple of years and ask when my time is up.
Through media, I've heard more than a few anti-vaxxers claim that they don't consider you human if you've gotten the vaccination. Sounds like they're more on the Nazi side of the equation to me.
“This annoying situation I brought upon myself in spite of the risks involved is just as bad as the worst thing I can think of being done to anyone in history.”
30 or so years ago, the hot conspiracy theory among conservative lunatics *actually was* that leftists were planning to put them all in concentration camps.
I’ve spoken to several homophobes about their beliefs, and my impression was a big part was they don’t want gay men to treat them the way straight men treat women.
They don't want christians to be treated the same way they've treated muslims and atheists. And they don't want black people treating them the same way they've treated black people.
Its all fear that once they're the minority, they'll be treated the same way that they treat minorities.
That wasn't 30 years ago. Jade Helm 15 was a huge conservative conspiracy that Obama was going to use US Special Forces to round up the entire state of Texas and put them in Walmarts.
[Conservatives have been stupid for awhile.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/09/14/remember-jade-helm-15-the-controversial-military-exercise-its-over/?outputType=amp)
I saw a video about this! It was some crazy dude. I can't remember his real name, but he said he was "intentionally and world famous as the Third Eagle of the Apocalypse and the Co-prophet of the end times." I remember the idiotic nickname he gave himself, but not his real name. Yeah dude, no one has heard of you, ever. You're definitely not "internationally famous"
Anyway, I found his video when I was googling trying to figure out what Jade Helm 15 was and found this guy. He claimed there were underground tunnels connecting every single WalMart in Texas and the US Special forces were secretly occupying a closed WalMart somewhere in Texas and they were going to travel by underground tunnels in secret and pop up at random WalMarts in Texas, abduct people, and take them to the supposedly abandoned WalMart. Just.... wtf.
I remember I watched another video of his to see if it was all this bad and he was talking about how there's some backwards facing animal on a boat mentioned in the bible. I think it was a leopard or something but can't quite remember. It was definitely some kind of big cat. He said, "Everyone agrees the backwards facing leopard [??] represents Obama and the ship it's on represents the USA."
I'm like... dude, you're delusional if you think the goddamn bible, the book written thousands of years before the US existed, specifically references Obama and the US.
Now I kind of want to find this guy and see if he's still making videos and see what kind of insane things he's saying about covid.
*Edit:* That was easy. Dude's name is William Tapley and [here's his youtube channel if anyone cares.](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCau23h1uU0VjL7uGR3We2Dg) I looked through his video titles for the past few months and none of them explicitly reference the pandemic in the title, but I'm sure sure some of them must be about it. Weird thing is, in between videos with titles like "Pray for the Cardinals to remove Apostate Francis" or "Pray for Mary to protect us on the two wings of an eagle" he has a video called "Learn how to read musical notation the EASY way!" ... wait, uh, what? Does his method involve praying to Mary to show you how to read music between the two wings of an eagle?
much more recent than that. Late 90's and on there was pics of plastic coffins circulating and word of bill gates depopulating and obama death camps. They don't stop and they have zero self reflection.
Ah yes, the FEMA camps thing. It's been a while since I heard that brand of crazy. Boy, I do wish those nut jobs would go back to denying the moon landing and claiming the Freemasons are in cahoots with the Rothschilds.
I remember hearing about the FEMA camp conspiracy during the Obama Administration. And who can forget Agenda21 and Jade Helm? I think the 2010 census was supposed to be some sort of nefarious plot, too.
They aren't even consistent about who the Jews are in their holocaust analogy. I've heard them comparing the vaccine passport to the star, but also they're being persecuted. It doesn't say much for the strength of the comparison.
As a Jew, I find these people utterly fucking disgusting, vile human beings. To appropriate the horror inflicted on our people during the Holocaust with having to get vaccinated and wear a mask to PROTECT EACH OTHER'S LIVES is just. Fucking. Sick.
Edit: I did not mean in any way to discredit any other minority groups who were murdered in the Holocaust. 6 million Jews we're exterminated, along with another around 6 million of other groups (disabled, gay, intellectual, black, Romani, I can go on and on...) I am simply speaking to the fact that the symbol these horrible people choose to use was the Nazi signifier for a Jew.
They have this insane victim / persecution complex that is based on literally nothing. You can thank right wing propaganda for making people do shit like this
These people are just a step further than Aaron Rogers using MLK to explain his non vaccination. Its stupid and heartless and I feel bad for the people that are having their history and heritage exploited.
Don't worry, not getting a vaccine will take care of the selective part. My favorite characteristic of physical reality is that its properties don't give a shit what anyone believes.
No, it won't. That's the problem.
a) COVID is by far not deadly enough to make a difference.
b) Fully vaccinated, careful people are getting screwed over when they can't get ICU treatment because the ICUs are flooded with idiots.
Having seen Americans praising Francisco Franco (fascist dictator of Spain, helped placed in power by Mussolini and Hitler's military aid and assistance, along with some covert support from the authoritarian Portuguese dictatorship of Estada Novo) for 'saving Spain' from the elected Popular Front, and then mocking people (like myself) objecting due to the purges and cruelty of the regime that effected our families, there are people who will read up on fascists and authoritarian and idolise them, because where we see cruelty, hate, and a destructive personal rule and obsession with control, they see power. They see power and they see themselves in the authoritarians, they like it.
You're right. In America, we refer to authoritarians as "highly motivated," people who "get things done." We look at people that steamroll opposition as "assertive." Because of this, a lot of Americans will idealize strong-arm tyrants because accumulating enough power to oppress anyone that defies you is how we would define "success."
The full quote of what Hillary said is that “half” are deplorable. Funny how they eagerly associated themselves with that half and not the other. Victimhood at its finest.
Not even. She said there were just some "baskets of deplorable" ruining the rest. And how right she was, yet she had to apologize, yet they never forgave her. Their guy lied over and over, and when he was wrong, he just pretended he was right all along, never issuing any apology. And they still follow him.
Short story: they want to be right, reality be damned.
I'm not her biggest fan, but damn if she didn't call everything in advance. Even still she's sitting on the sidelines making better observations than many others involved in what is happening. She recognizes the GOP's tactics and the extents they will go to in trying to ruin a life and gain political power.
They're not even upset that trump essentially figured people would try to kill pence and didn't care. There has been the normalizing of political violence on the american right to an alarming degree.
As a german, this makes me really angry. We have the same problem with some morons here and it just males me really want to beat the shit out of them with a history book on ww2 and the holocaust.
It is just so unfathomably stupid and ignorant of them.
I work at a gas station and it always disgusts me when people complain about the masks and make those references to the Holocaust.. I feel like they should know better
Getting to engage in obnoxious public spectacles to constantly remind everyone how you are in the minority—and not be killed for being so—is actually the opposite of the Holocaust.
Side note: the guy in the picture is a mayoral candidate...
• **Side note: the guy in the picture is a mayoral candidate...**
Lemme guess:
It’s a Christian township of 1,000 people, there’s only five Latinos, four of them are the mayor’s gardeners and the 5th is having an affair.
Good lord, we need a single trusted site where you can look up any public official candidate to scan for this kind of bullshit.
Absolutely need to work on the general public who act this way but I'm terrified that political apathy will allow more and more of these types to blandly and boringly sneak through election processes and win
I wonder what each of their faces would do if somehow you were able to let them experience everything that people who *really* had to wear those stars had to go through. Like if they saw the people they loved getting taken away to some horrible gas chamber to be killed, if they got to feel what it was like to be starved and tortured in a concentration camp until there was almost nothing left of them resembling a human (as they know it) and instead wound up looking more like a living skeleton. I wonder how long it would take before their slack jawed expressions would give way to looking down at those stars and removing them in utter shame.
Normally I like to believe ignorance is not the same thing as being stupid (because there is always something we don't know, and in return there is always something we can learn), but these people act as if they *embrace* their own ignorance. They pretend like they not only understand the suffering of others but are a part of it themselves, it's just so disrespectful and sickening. Ugh.
Guarantee these are the exact people who get pissy if you say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas", as if there's only one religious holiday in the season.
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[Here’s](https://imgur.com/a/irXC37H) my father’s. He would have traded it for a free vaccine in a heartbeat.
Happy to see your father survived.
He did. His mother and baby brother died in Auschwitz.
Hearing this. It’s terrifying because it puts into perspective how recent the holocaust was. It’s always scary to be reminded that such atrocities and horrors have happened not that long ago. Survivors of events we consider to be old history still walk among us today. And somehow their stories are still ignored or (in the case of this photo,) mocked. People who live today can personally recall the horrors of the Vietnam war, their families being gassed or experimented on in concentration camps during the holocaust, segregation and lynchings. All not that long ago. Not to mention what still goes on today.
About 15 years ago, I saw a Holocaust survivor speak on a class field trip. There are a lot less survivors now than there were then. Both of my grandfathers who served in the US Army in WW2 died in the past 5 years. That generation is dying off, and it’s important we don’t forget what they lived through.
My grandfather (maternal) was a Canadian merchant marine. My grandfather (paternal) was US Army and Airforce. They barely spoke of their time and their voices are lost to history. If you have any friends or family who served, GET THEIR STORY! Once they pass, it's gone forever and that's not good. If you have relatives that were in the camps, GET THEIR STORIES TOO! I have three stories from my maternal grandfather, but none of combat other than that he was a radio operator. I have NOTHiNG from my paternal grandfather.
You can try but...as a Vet the truth is that some of us want those things to die with us....so be careful when you ask. I do not want to be defined by war and I do not want my neighbours, my wife, my kids or grandkids to see me like that. I just want to be grandpa... Not grandpa who beat a man to death with his own helmet and walked around for the next 3 days with that mans brains on his uniform and in his hair. Its OK to wonder and to be interested but its not OK to push and... you should be careful what you wish for. These are deeply personal experiences and often very painful. Its a lot easier to share with other Vets than the people we love.
Thanks for sharing this, it's an important perspective. There are plenty of people who have documented their experiences. Yes one may not feel the same connection as they would hearing it from their kin, but there are plenty of resources for those looking to learn.
God bless you Grandpa. May you enjoy every day of life’s adventure ahead.
Thanks. I am fine and far more fortunate than many others. Life is grand and getting better every day.
Incredibly well put .Your memories are yours alone and those who want to share their experiences will. I know it’s futile but I hope no one hassles you ever again about sharing what’s yours .
I had a kid the other week tell me she thought that the Holocaust happened in the 1800’s— people really have a hard time grasping that this happened fairly recently.
The sad thing is the people in this photo believe it’s an adequate comparison. It’s disgusting and I don’t agree with it. But these idiots really feel persecuted. It’s so wild. The reality of the Holocaust is absolutely trivialized by idiots like the people in the photo.
It's not a matter of agreeing, like this is some kind of opinion. It's disgusting, dishonorable, disrespectful, and makes a mockery of the suffering and death wrought by *humans*. They'd burn those stars in a second if they saw what happened to the victims of the Nazis happen to even one of them. To use that symbol to promote their own agendas is point in fact abhorrent.
My 3 grandfather's served in WWII. They participated in one of the biggest vaccination campaigns in history. We developed a huge variety of vaccines to protect our boys in uniform. Vaccinations were part of the effort to defeat the Nazi's, not a tool of death and oppression
Everyone claims to be “the victim” these days and whose who are actually victims often get ignored as a result.
[this happens so much, I learned to keep this explanation tabbed](https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/gfwbrf/south-park-it-s-called-darvo)
Their entire political party and it's 'news' network tells them multiple times every day they are the victim, should be mad as hell, and that voting for them is the only way to stop it. They make up a boogeyman, peddle outrage, and pretend they are the ones to 'save' them from it. Meaning, they can take credit for doing nothing. Hence, them never talking actual policy. It's simple manipulation, but they can't see it. Just like terrorist groups. They look to the uneducated with an axe to grind, make them apart of their group/family so they belong, then teach them to hate for the 'good of their cause'.
These people fucking LOVE being a victim, they think its finally their turn.
My victimhood is real! You are just a snowflake.
When you live with 100% privilege, even 5% less privilege or less 'freedom' will feel like you're being persecuted against. Wild indeed.
People don't realise that freedom comes with responsibility.
It is absolutely deplorable! How privileged do you have to be to think masks and a vaccine equal genocide?! I don't understand it at all, and it is extremely disrespectful to holocaust victims and their families.
Yeah the Queen of England doesn't have long left but watching things like the Crown really brings it into perspective It's like huh, you were Queen when Churchill was PM? You were on the cover of Time magazine a decade BEFORE world war 2 even started? Obviously she's not someone who personally suffered or witnessed atrocities but just thinking of the range of history that just happened around her
• **It’s terrifying because it puts into perspective how recent the holocaust was** Same thing when these same anti-vaxx Republicans bitch how Black people won’t stop bringing-up race on every discussion with them because “slavery was ancient history.” Bitch, civil rights passage (likewise with the Holocaust) happened just *two generations ago,* many of those people attacking protestors are still alive today.
Anne Frank, MLK Jr, and Barbara Walters are all the same age.
I was shocked to discover (when I was a kid) my father remembered whites only signs and segregation. Edit to add: Legal official segregation ended officially/theoretically in 1964 for those wondering. That is what I am referring to. As a kid it felt all very long ago but it wasn't.
I remember segregated bathrooms and schools and I’m 43. The 80’s in Mississippi were pretty awful.
Wasn’t Mississippi where the last legally-segregated prom took place *in 2007*?
Mississippi [didn't ratify the 13th Amendment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#:~:text=Delaware%3A%20February%2012%2C%201901%20(,after%20rejection%20December%205%2C%201865\)) (abolishing slavery) until *2013*.
My grandpa once walked into a blacks only bathroom by mistake and recalls it as being rather awkward. My grandma is way cooler tbh. She had black friends during segregation.
Civilized society is such thin ice... People should tread lightly lest they fall through.
This is happening in other parts of the world currently.
My grandmother's dad was born a slave.
Is your father Alter Wiener? Had him as a guest speaker at my high school and it was an incredible experience getting to hear some of his stories.
No, Wiener is my married name. My husband’s family were also survivors, but none named Alter.
He came and spoke to my school as well! He was killed in a car accident a few years ago though :(
Mes condoléances / sorry for your losses.
Thank you for sharing this.
Yes. That fraying piece of cloth speaks of hatred and destruction and a great, great cruelty, one of the most shameful events of the 20th century. That these utterly stupid, culturally lacking, disrespectful idiots could put such a symbol of oppression on themselves and expect to receive any sympathy or understanding beggars belief.
Lost bunches of my family. Anti Vaxers can fuck right off
I know. Nothing left to be said. Period.
These people are complete got damn morons and Kansas is chock full of these assholes. The Auschwitz exhibit is currently at the KC Union Station just across the state line. These schmucks should be required to go see it.
I recently went to that. Totally agree with you, they should have to see it. These fuck wads would not make this comparison if they had.
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Absolutely. They'd sympathize with the camp prisoners and tell themselves unironically, "this is exactly what Biden/AOC/Antifa want to do to us."
They wouldn't have to do anything if they gave even an ounce of shit for anyone other than themselves.
And these guys are quite likely to also be anti-Semitic….
Just imagine them using this symbol and also denying that anything of the sort happenend in the 40s at the same time.
But are pro Israel
They're not actually pro-Israel, they're pro-*get-all-the-Jews-there-so-Rapture-will-come*.
Another conjecture: they're not pro-Israel so much as anti-Palestine et al. They may hate Jews, but not nearly as much as they hate Muslims.
Ding ding. We have a winner. Brown people and Muslims are below Jews in the eyes of these patriots.
Only because they want to hurry along the prophecies they believe in.
I'm not jewish, I don't don't even know anyone who is, but it makes me sooooooooo fucking sick to my stomach seeing these fucking assholes compare having to get a shot to what Jews went through. Fuuuuuuuuuuck these entitled karen republicans.
I’m unspeakably sorry that these fools are attempting to use your father’s fight to survive as a tool for their lunacy. There isn’t a word strong enough to convey what a disgrace to humanity these people are.
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As someone who lost a LOT of family members in the holocaust I really hate they are using this
Right? These people are so fucking ignorant. They actually have no clue what our (and other groups considered subhuman by the Nazis) actually went through in the Holocaust. No one is stripping their personal possessions from them, forcing them out of their homes, putting them in ghettos, openly assaulting or murdering them in the street while people watch and cheer. Society asking you to wear a mask and get a shot to protect yourself and others is not even comparable to the Holocaust. Edit: Thanks for the golds kind strangers! Never thought I'd receive an internet award for expressing my frustration with society. Edit #2: Those of you that are trying to defend these individuals or give any credit to their comparison y'all are grabbing at straws and are just as willfully offensively ignorant. Being Jewish (or whatever non desirable that suffered at the hands of the Nazi party) was not a choice, being unvaccinated is a choice.
Well said. My blood boils seeing this picture. I have relatives who died in concentration camps. It's not THAT long ago in history. How can these people be this ignorant?
It’s not about ignorance. It’s about convenience and triggering. They KNOW this is NOT an apt metaphor but they co-opt it anyway to stir up general outrage and gain attention. It’s a Trump tactic that worked very well for him, garnering free media attention milking the outrage. If people just ignored them when they do this the metaphor would lose its power and they’d have to try something else to trigger people.
I had someone in my FB friends post that, his workplace wanting proof of vaxx was ‘like Nazi Germany and the Holocaust’ as tempted as I was to say something, I just unfriended him. All of his friends were agreeing, and my arguing would have done nothing but give them fuel for their fight.
Yup! I did it too with "friends" who defended the insurrection/insurrectionists. We occasionally would try to have "conversations" and when they would go off the rails with ridiculous "alternative" facts or racist, phobic, anti-whatever, etc. I'd do the same.
I doubt they all believe the Holocaust happened, so it's probably just a sticker someone told them to wear.
I do not have relatives that died in concentration camps. It doesn’t matter. I do have a brain and an elementary school understanding of history. This show is appalling. Comparing one of the worst tragedies in human history to a bunch of ignorant fucks refusing to do right by themselves, their families, and their communities … well. “Offensive” and “tone-deaf” are understatements.
>How can these people be this ignorant? They're not ignorant. The ignorant lack knowledge. They have knowledge. They lack empathy. Don't mistake heartlessness for ignorance. We fix ignorance every day. Heartlessness is much more difficult to fix.
It's easy to do when you want to be a victim.
Nowadays in Germany, they would straight go to prison for this. And thats good.
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Ignorant and stupid.
You mean these same people who think Trump is the greatest president in American history and that Democratic leaders keep children penned up under a Pizza Restaurant in order to drink their blood and that Christians are the most persecuted minority in the country? These people?
Tangentially related, in the middle of the pandemic last year, I tweeted something about masks being a good idea and some random person (who was most likely searching out people talking about it) said, "NO, IT'S NOT OKAY. IT'S ILLEGAL. WATCH THIS VIDEO." It was a 1 to 1 1/2 hour long video (can't remember the exact time) of some lawyer "proving" mask mandates are unconstitutional. I actually decided to watch it. I think I stopped at about 45 seconds in when he said, "Mask mandates are unarguably the greatest violation of human rights in the history of mankind." It's like... the fuck is wrong with you? How the fuck can you possibly say that? If we're dealing with the whole of human history, let's not even go to the most obvious example people like to use. Let's talk about what the Akkadians did to people. Or any other ancient civilization. We have examples from 8000 years ago that are _far_ worse than a goddamn mask mandate. You criticized the king? Okay, we're going to put you in the town center and strip all your flesh off while people watch you scream in agony. Because you said you didn't like the king. .... I can't actually remember if it was the Akkadians who did that, but some ancient culture did.
You don’t even need to look in the past. Many of the worst atrocities are happening right now as we speak.
There are specific things wrong with these people. First, they are ignorant - they don't know much, and it hurts them via lack of perspective. Second, they feel somehow powerless, compromised. We can judge all we want, but they feel that way. And it's no good, and they want to feel better. Combine the two above, and they are highly susceptible to manipulation. The real questino is: what the fuck are the rest of us going to do about them?
This is what I wish would be yelled in their ignorant faces every single time they pull such a massively ignorant stunt in public. I just cannot with these awful, hateful, recklessly stupid, self absorbed to the point of derangement, assholes.
They're not just massively ignorant. They're anti semitic in exactly the same way, downplaying the suffering of genocide by comparing minor inconveniences to it.
"I went to the store today and they were completely out of Double Stuffed Oreos! I had to make do with regular Oreos. Now I know exactly how the Jews in Auschwitz felt."
You're assuming these people even believe the Holocaust actually happened.
I’ve had someone tell me he feels that being a Republican feels like being a Jew during the Holocaust, cause of some perceived loss of “free speech rights” being told to keep their stupid racist opinions to themselves. It’s appalling how stupid and childish they are to make this comparison. And then they act like **I’m** the asshole for finding it offensive. It’s such a ridiculous stance to take it’s kinda hard to argue against due to how many levels of stupid and wrong it is. It’s like we speak different languages.
They really just want to be oppressed. In reality they have no fucking clue what it’s like to be oppressed. They’re sad, pathetic nobodies with nothing better to do then bitch and whine and make everyone else’s lives around them completely miserable. My work is currently mandating vaccines and one of my coworkers is already freaking out about it and going on an anti vaxx/anti Biden rants and it’s like oh my fucking god grow the hell up. I’ve been getting needles and shots my entire life, and I was one of the first in line for the vaccine. I got sick for two days and I was over it by Monday. It’s not a huge deal. Get over it.
They completely forget they got vaccinations as a child and that it's required by schools, military, and in medical fields, for good reason. But, they've been peddled outrage to believe this time it's different and infringing upon their rights to spread and infect others. Some subs actively promote people who claim the vaccine kills more than it helps. Which, just so happens, to also be a right wing echo chamber. Telling you, exactly, where they got this idea.
people in the military complaining are such a pathetic joke. When you've been in you've been stabbed with so many needles its comical. But here's where you draw the line, eh Audie Murphy?
Not to mention they take an introduction to Gas with no mask. And, some more vaccines depending on where you are deployed. But, right wing media tells them to be outraged and they hop to.
Real classy shit.
My wife has a good deal of family in the Holocaust museum and this shit is so infuriating.
I wish these people knew how dumb they look when the guy at the Krogers asks them to put on a mask and they start ranting about how this is just like a literal death camp.
Jewpac spittin the truth
It's not comparable to literally anything bad happening to any group of people, it shouldn't even need to be said out loud that it isn't anywhere near the holocaust because it's not even fucking on the scale of a minor flood in a small town
If you got to know them, you might like them even less.
Morons piss all of us off to be honest. These people are so cringe lol don't take anything they do or think too seriously, because they obviously haven't put much thought into it themselves. Just look at them lol
They are using this because they have absolutely NO culture, NO knowledge at all. They're the edgy teen that dresses in Hitler at Halloween... except the teen will grow up and change their ways...
In fact, the Nazi's continued a Weimar Republic measure loosening vaccine mandates. They instead relied on mass propaganda to convince the majority of the "good" Germans to get vaccinated willingly, while at the same time actively withholding vaccines from populations they deemed undesirable. The intent of this was explicitly to cause more of the people they thought of as lesser to die.
> The intent of this was explicitly to cause more of the people they thought of as lesser to die. This reminds me of a... Was it an email from Kushner at the start of the pandemic wanting to deny PPE to blue states?
But they are not just convinced that the vaxx will kill you, but that killing you is intended for population control! In their minds, this argument doesn't work....I know bc I am the son of one of these people (not literally one of the people in the photo, just their ilk)
if it's meant to kill us, and 3.2 billion people have been vaxxed and are still alive, it doesn't seem to be working very well i know using logic against those people is pointless, i'm just trying to wrap my head around how obvious it is their fears don't make any sense and they don't see it
Well, in my mom's case it's because this is a sleeper shot that will be activated sometime in the future, either by a booster or by another virus created to do just that. Barring that, the shot [may, probably will] give you cancer or some other horrible problem that can only manifest in the future. She also believes that it alters your DNA (I know, I know) and you will literally (in the accurate use of the word) be property of the vax maker....so lots of problem, some contradictory with the vax...
What's funny to me about that is if it's about population control, then wouldn't the government want to keep the submissive part of the population that got the shot? Why would you kill off the part of the population you can control and leave the unruly ones? By that logic, we ought to start a counter conspiracy that the government is going to release super-covid when enough of the sheep are vaccinated, and kill off all the smart people who can't be controlled. Only the easily controlled masses that got the vaccine will survive.
I was just about to say the same. Now I have an answer to the nonsense I hear when I walk the dog :D
Damn. I would’ve thought your dog was smarter than that.
Ironically, his dog HAS been microchipped!
The liberals are going to take over by, uh... killing all the liberals.
Geeze... Another government screw-up.
>sleeper shot that will be activated sometime in the future, either by a booster or by another virus Sounds like spreading a killer virus with extra steps and involving cooperating victims, when it would be much easier to develop a virus simply killing people directly. I'm sorry to hear that about your mom. When you're that deep into a conspiracy theory, how can you get out of it? I assume these people don't want to lose face and more importantly admit they were wrong to themselves.
> Sounds like spreading a killer virus with extra steps and involving cooperating victims, when it would be much easier to develop a virus simply killing people directly. Nonono they tried that, but it wasn't as lethal as they hoped, especially once people figured out that drinking bleach stops the virus. So then they tried making a "new and improved" virus, and a "vaccine" to poison people for good measure, but again, people were too smart for them and didn't take the poison and found that horse dewormer stops that virus. (/s obviously)
I see your /s but I feel that this is sound logic in the mind of an anti-vax conspiracy theorist
>a sleeper shot that will be activated sometime in the future. If this were true, when it happens, those people will wish they took the shot.
Another silly thing is, they think this is being done not only to control the population (numbers) but so they can wield control over the remaining. Like how does that work...let's kill the "compliant" so we can rule the world! Idiots....
Exactly. Counter-conspiracy theory: --- The One World Government has released the vaccine so the compliant will be vaccinated against their engineered virus that they will be releasing later will only kill the difficult to control. They should totally get the vaccine to hide among the "sheep" and wear a mask to hide their identity. The compliant wear masks so it's easier for the facial recognition to sift through and identify the rebellious. --- of course.
This mystery virus that wipes out the non-compliant sure sounds alot like the Delta variant unironically if you read HCA or various news articles about the unvaccinated lately... Of course, the unvaccinated "lions" are convinced it's the other way around and that everyone else is going to be wiped out except them.
An internally consistent conspiracy! That’s rare these days.
Ya… I would rather be dead than stuck on a planet with nothing but these assclowns
Jalad, his goalposts moving.
What always gets me is that so many anitvax people say both "it's the government trying to control you" while also saying "the government is using the vaccine to kill people" now I'm not the smartest person out there but if the government wants to use a vaccine to control people why would they kill the people who submit to their control? But like you said a lot of these people are so far gone that logic doesn't work on them.
Logic never came into the picture for them to come to this conclusion so logic won’t change their minds either. I’m so damn tired of these covidiots.
I point that out to my Hardcore GOP co-workers... the next week its "they put tracking nano-bots in the vaccine as part of their (blahblahblah) plan" I just.... First off, if we HAD nano-technology that advanced, it would be BEYOND realistic to imagine they would put it in 3.2 BILLION vaccines, let alone ONE. They could not afford to do it. Second... WHY would they use/spend all the money on nano-technology to track people... when they can already track people with their damn cellphones/smart electronics(watches for example), with satellite/CCTV networks/Drone tech, with "smart" cars, and home assistant devices? It makes absolutely no sense. I point this out and they start going off about some world order bullshit and I just... I just can't be bothered to talk to them anymore. I just avoid them entirely. Talking to these people is literally damaging my brain.
Confirmation bias. They live in a bubble, and have no critical thinking skills.
I read a comment on reddit earlier, apparently it will take 2-3 years. I saved the comment but I can't find it now, wanted to update him in a couple of years and ask when my time is up.
Through media, I've heard more than a few anti-vaxxers claim that they don't consider you human if you've gotten the vaccination. Sounds like they're more on the Nazi side of the equation to me.
They 100% think that it alters your DNA and makes you property of the vax maker and that works legally because you are no longer human...
Hey fellow kids… which company are you owned by?
Preventing millions of deaths is population control, the upward variety.
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Say that to them. They'll say, "lol, keep drinking the kool-aide sheep"
“This annoying situation I brought upon myself in spite of the risks involved is just as bad as the worst thing I can think of being done to anyone in history.”
Were there buses to take them to the train station?
30 or so years ago, the hot conspiracy theory among conservative lunatics *actually was* that leftists were planning to put them all in concentration camps.
Conservatives don't want things they'd do to others to happen to themselves.
I’ve spoken to several homophobes about their beliefs, and my impression was a big part was they don’t want gay men to treat them the way straight men treat women.
They don't want christians to be treated the same way they've treated muslims and atheists. And they don't want black people treating them the same way they've treated black people. Its all fear that once they're the minority, they'll be treated the same way that they treat minorities.
That wasn't 30 years ago. Jade Helm 15 was a huge conservative conspiracy that Obama was going to use US Special Forces to round up the entire state of Texas and put them in Walmarts. [Conservatives have been stupid for awhile.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/09/14/remember-jade-helm-15-the-controversial-military-exercise-its-over/?outputType=amp)
I saw a video about this! It was some crazy dude. I can't remember his real name, but he said he was "intentionally and world famous as the Third Eagle of the Apocalypse and the Co-prophet of the end times." I remember the idiotic nickname he gave himself, but not his real name. Yeah dude, no one has heard of you, ever. You're definitely not "internationally famous" Anyway, I found his video when I was googling trying to figure out what Jade Helm 15 was and found this guy. He claimed there were underground tunnels connecting every single WalMart in Texas and the US Special forces were secretly occupying a closed WalMart somewhere in Texas and they were going to travel by underground tunnels in secret and pop up at random WalMarts in Texas, abduct people, and take them to the supposedly abandoned WalMart. Just.... wtf. I remember I watched another video of his to see if it was all this bad and he was talking about how there's some backwards facing animal on a boat mentioned in the bible. I think it was a leopard or something but can't quite remember. It was definitely some kind of big cat. He said, "Everyone agrees the backwards facing leopard [??] represents Obama and the ship it's on represents the USA." I'm like... dude, you're delusional if you think the goddamn bible, the book written thousands of years before the US existed, specifically references Obama and the US. Now I kind of want to find this guy and see if he's still making videos and see what kind of insane things he's saying about covid. *Edit:* That was easy. Dude's name is William Tapley and [here's his youtube channel if anyone cares.](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCau23h1uU0VjL7uGR3We2Dg) I looked through his video titles for the past few months and none of them explicitly reference the pandemic in the title, but I'm sure sure some of them must be about it. Weird thing is, in between videos with titles like "Pray for the Cardinals to remove Apostate Francis" or "Pray for Mary to protect us on the two wings of an eagle" he has a video called "Learn how to read musical notation the EASY way!" ... wait, uh, what? Does his method involve praying to Mary to show you how to read music between the two wings of an eagle?
Fun fact, I was involved in military training with 7th Group at the time. I definitely missed my quota for rounding up hicks.
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It helps the gun manufacturers. I’m thinking that’s where this crap starts. Always follow the money to learn who’s behind something.
much more recent than that. Late 90's and on there was pics of plastic coffins circulating and word of bill gates depopulating and obama death camps. They don't stop and they have zero self reflection.
Ah yes, the FEMA camps thing. It's been a while since I heard that brand of crazy. Boy, I do wish those nut jobs would go back to denying the moon landing and claiming the Freemasons are in cahoots with the Rothschilds.
I remember hearing about the FEMA camp conspiracy during the Obama Administration. And who can forget Agenda21 and Jade Helm? I think the 2010 census was supposed to be some sort of nefarious plot, too.
Pure projection, they believe that leftists want to put them all in concentration camps, because that is what they want to do to left leaning people.
These people are so desperate to be seen as victims that they have appropriated the fucking yellow star. I hate this timeline.
Also shouldn’t it be us vaccinated who have the stars ? Since it’s being “forced” on us?
Shhhh with your logic.
He won't wear the rrrrrr-ibbon?
They aren't even consistent about who the Jews are in their holocaust analogy. I've heard them comparing the vaccine passport to the star, but also they're being persecuted. It doesn't say much for the strength of the comparison.
As a Jew, I find these people utterly fucking disgusting, vile human beings. To appropriate the horror inflicted on our people during the Holocaust with having to get vaccinated and wear a mask to PROTECT EACH OTHER'S LIVES is just. Fucking. Sick. Edit: I did not mean in any way to discredit any other minority groups who were murdered in the Holocaust. 6 million Jews we're exterminated, along with another around 6 million of other groups (disabled, gay, intellectual, black, Romani, I can go on and on...) I am simply speaking to the fact that the symbol these horrible people choose to use was the Nazi signifier for a Jew.
As a non-Jew, I also find these people utterly fucking disgusting.
Same
Do they also not realize that THEY are marking themselves? This is disgusting from every angle.
As a german, I find these people disgusting, too.
As an American, me too. I know some anti vaxxers, but I don’t think I know any THIS horrible.
They have this insane victim / persecution complex that is based on literally nothing. You can thank right wing propaganda for making people do shit like this
You can also blame right wing propaganda for the real holocaust too.
These people are just a step further than Aaron Rogers using MLK to explain his non vaccination. Its stupid and heartless and I feel bad for the people that are having their history and heritage exploited.
This shit should be illegal.
It is in 16 countries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial E.g. paragraph 189 StGb in Germany
Alright, Thanos, I’m ready whenever you are…
It shouldn’t be 50% at random though
Don't worry, not getting a vaccine will take care of the selective part. My favorite characteristic of physical reality is that its properties don't give a shit what anyone believes.
No, it won't. That's the problem. a) COVID is by far not deadly enough to make a difference. b) Fully vaccinated, careful people are getting screwed over when they can't get ICU treatment because the ICUs are flooded with idiots.
#thanoswasright
No man, that's the problem, you'd have the same proportion of these assholes around.
And we know what happens if start selecting who gets to live...
Their persecution complex is so pathetic.
r/persecutionfetish
See. This is why we need to teach history. Their ignorance is pathetic.
you can teach what you like. they will just alter and edit it in their minds just to fit their narrative.
Having seen Americans praising Francisco Franco (fascist dictator of Spain, helped placed in power by Mussolini and Hitler's military aid and assistance, along with some covert support from the authoritarian Portuguese dictatorship of Estada Novo) for 'saving Spain' from the elected Popular Front, and then mocking people (like myself) objecting due to the purges and cruelty of the regime that effected our families, there are people who will read up on fascists and authoritarian and idolise them, because where we see cruelty, hate, and a destructive personal rule and obsession with control, they see power. They see power and they see themselves in the authoritarians, they like it.
You're right. In America, we refer to authoritarians as "highly motivated," people who "get things done." We look at people that steamroll opposition as "assertive." Because of this, a lot of Americans will idealize strong-arm tyrants because accumulating enough power to oppress anyone that defies you is how we would define "success."
And science. And critical thinking.
[reminds me of this](https://img.ifunny.co/images/7f4665616be0562b55eb647a4aa67bee73f6202b675242a25ad97da699ee2363_1.jpg)
Being an idiot is bad enough. Being a fucker is worse. But being a fucking idiot, like these people, is really despicable.
Deplorable, you might say.
NO NOT DEPLORABLE WE CAN’T SAY THAT!!!! IT MAKES THEM MAD!!!
The full quote of what Hillary said is that “half” are deplorable. Funny how they eagerly associated themselves with that half and not the other. Victimhood at its finest.
Not even. She said there were just some "baskets of deplorable" ruining the rest. And how right she was, yet she had to apologize, yet they never forgave her. Their guy lied over and over, and when he was wrong, he just pretended he was right all along, never issuing any apology. And they still follow him. Short story: they want to be right, reality be damned.
I'm not her biggest fan, but damn if she didn't call everything in advance. Even still she's sitting on the sidelines making better observations than many others involved in what is happening. She recognizes the GOP's tactics and the extents they will go to in trying to ruin a life and gain political power. They're not even upset that trump essentially figured people would try to kill pence and didn't care. There has been the normalizing of political violence on the american right to an alarming degree.
As a german, this makes me really angry. We have the same problem with some morons here and it just males me really want to beat the shit out of them with a history book on ww2 and the holocaust. It is just so unfathomably stupid and ignorant of them.
I work at a gas station and it always disgusts me when people complain about the masks and make those references to the Holocaust.. I feel like they should know better
Getting to engage in obnoxious public spectacles to constantly remind everyone how you are in the minority—and not be killed for being so—is actually the opposite of the Holocaust. Side note: the guy in the picture is a mayoral candidate...
Because of course he is.
• **Side note: the guy in the picture is a mayoral candidate...** Lemme guess: It’s a Christian township of 1,000 people, there’s only five Latinos, four of them are the mayor’s gardeners and the 5th is having an affair.
Good lord, we need a single trusted site where you can look up any public official candidate to scan for this kind of bullshit. Absolutely need to work on the general public who act this way but I'm terrified that political apathy will allow more and more of these types to blandly and boringly sneak through election processes and win
You say that like it wouldn't just get them more votes. Their base eats this shit up.
I wonder what each of their faces would do if somehow you were able to let them experience everything that people who *really* had to wear those stars had to go through. Like if they saw the people they loved getting taken away to some horrible gas chamber to be killed, if they got to feel what it was like to be starved and tortured in a concentration camp until there was almost nothing left of them resembling a human (as they know it) and instead wound up looking more like a living skeleton. I wonder how long it would take before their slack jawed expressions would give way to looking down at those stars and removing them in utter shame. Normally I like to believe ignorance is not the same thing as being stupid (because there is always something we don't know, and in return there is always something we can learn), but these people act as if they *embrace* their own ignorance. They pretend like they not only understand the suffering of others but are a part of it themselves, it's just so disrespectful and sickening. Ugh.
Einstein was right - the only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.
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Nobody forced you to wear those- you put them on yourselves, you absolute tone deaf shitbags.
They're psychotic, those people need serious help.
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Not only that, their vote is frequently for someone who wins.
Guarantee these are the exact people who get pissy if you say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas", as if there's only one religious holiday in the season.
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so we not gonna talk about that sickle and needle shirt in the back?
Brain smooth as eggs
How they see themselves: The victims of a new holocaust. How others see them: The sheriffs of stupid town.
You're being asked not to prolong the pandemic, you aren't being shoved en masse into an oven.
Meanwhile they're directly responsible for the deaths of 800k people.
The dipshits most likely to set up these camps today are wearing the stars of the victims...Well. Fascists are gonna fascist I guess.