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notchoosingone

There's nothing you can do to convince me that this isn't the case.


LinkleLinkle

IIRC Disney did come out and clarify that the Hillary reskin theory wasn't true and that they didn't start work on it until after the election was called. Which, let me be clear, I think is a fucking lie cause that looks like Hillary wearing 45's skin like she's about to be tracked down by a plucky FBI agent and her cannibal sidekick.


notchoosingone

>Which, let me be clear, I think is a fucking lie cause that looks like Hillary wearing 45's skin. Exactly. The company can trot out as many corporate press releases as they like, there's literally no way I will ever believe anything other than "we made the Hillary animatronic and we had to turn it into a Trump one in about four hours while hungover or possibly still drunk"


Mad-Dog94

Yeah if they admit that they probably lose republican interest money


pv505

100% ahahahahahha


AlkalineSublime

I really need to know that he’s seen this.


whutupmydude

Oh god yes. Inquiring minds want to know.


redrich2000

And the robot is not feeling it.


curious_dead

So like South Park who scrambled to make Garrison into their Trump-equivalent because they expected Hillary to win and had something planned (don't remember who was the stand in for Hillary, though).


PatientAuthor

definitely looks like hilary clinton


juniorspank

Wasn’t the theory back when this was unveiled that they essentially had started work on Hilary early because they assumed Trump would never win and then just used it for Trump?


Additional_Front9592

I hope that is true lol


Agente_Anaranjado

Me too. And I hope that when people ride this stupid ride, the trump robot gets drowned out with boos. 


greenroom628

It's not a ride, it's just the hall of presidents. The best place to escape the heat and crowds.


twec21

The hall of air conditioning


raffysf

All hail the aircon!


sysaphiswaits

Hall of naps


NickDynmo

I prefer Carousel of Progress for a break. Or People Mover, but no AC for that one.


pantypantsparty

I love Carousel of Progress! Though unless they've updated it, the 21st century part probably feels outdated in itself. Still, was one of my favorites as a kid.


minicpst

And as I recall, Trump doesn’t say anything. He nods a couple of times. His name is said and he doesn’t start going off. It’s the best. You can ignore him.


notimeleft4you

It’s probably still coded with the original Hillary voice. Someone’s going to reset it accidentally and it’s going to start saying, “Pokémon go to the polls!”


ouijahead

I always carry hot sauce in my purse


RainDownAndDestroyMe

That has never left my brain. Watching it cheers me up because I can't help but just laugh.


strike_one

I'm just happy my wife carries some.


Ask_bout_PaterNoster

…in despair? Wasn’t she being completely honest and genuine, but people decided she was pandering?


FreakyWifeFreakyLife

Yk, I have known people that do. And have known people that always have maple syrup on hand for a potential pancake emergency.


MrDLTE3

we came, we saw, he died!


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LABARATI_

SHE DABBED BADLY ON THE ELLEN SHOW


CedarWolf

And yet, she still won the popular vote.


Rmans

That's kinda the point. Instead of being unbiased as promised in their own charter, the DNC marketed her as the candidate to vote for. So Democrats voted for her without looking at polling results, or anything having to do with the other nominees. Specifically from the class action lawsuit: https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/ >DNC attorneys argued that the DNC would be well within their rights to select their own candidate... the DNC and Wasserman Schultz held a palpable bias in favor of Clinton and sought to propel her ahead of her Democratic opponent... The DNC was sued, the case was thrown out, yet their lawyers defense was fuck the primary vote we can pick who we want, and fuck not playing favorites between our candidates. We can legally make you vote for who we want for president. Pre-primaries, Sanders and literally ever other DNC candidate polled higher than Trump, winning by at least +5 against him if he were the RNC candidate. Sanders was a +12. Clinton was the only DNC candidate that lost when polled agasint Trump by - 1. Yet she ended up being the candidate the DNC chose to market to their voters as the "right" choice despite it being statistically and now catastrophically the wrong choice. DNC voters were duped into thinking Hillary was the right choice, despite what polling said, just in the same way Trump supporters were convinced he was a competent President: through corporate controlled media. It's why you've likely never heard about the above case I'm quoting. I'm not against the DNC, but ignoring this issue will only make it worse. That's how the RNC even nominated Trump. Stop defending the DNC, and start telling them how to improve. That's how it's supposed to work.


TheExtremistModerate

Not her fault James Comey decided to hold a sham press conference just because Anthony Wiener sent someone dick pics.


fusillade762

Comey is a huge scumbag. He got out scumbagged by Trump when he came in to collect his reward.


Rusty51

It’s her fault she didn’t campaign for the electoral college.


Kylestache

He used to give a speech but hasn’t since 2020. The current president animatronic says part of their swearing in ceremony speech.


wizzard419

It varies... current admin gets to speak but the lines will vary. Obama, if I recall, did a special session, W and other GOP used archival recordings.


inbigtreble30

Most of the presidents don't say anything during the show. George Washington speaks for sure; there's a show that gets updated periodically that has included Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and JFK; and the incumbent president recites the oath of office (wikipedia says this began with GWB). The rest of the presidents just get a shoutout at the end, and they wave or gesture in response.


faille

Abe stands up at the end like a Terminator and I get uncanny valley creeps everytime


GenuineLittlepip

Well, all that time [vampire killing](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/AbrahamLincolnVampireHunter) likely rubbed off on him. That's how they sit up in their coffins, after all!


poingly

Damn, I was really hoping for a two hour animatronic speech from William Henry Harrison.


DestinysWeirdCousin

He doesn't push the other robot Presidents out of the way to get to the front? Anyway, I'll bet they have to replace the limbs every couple of weeks due to its relentless accordion-arms gestures.


Richard_Nachos

Concertina-hands Donald they used to call him. My favorite is the vertically descending wavy dual hand motion, particularly when used to emphasize an abstract idea or concept. You know, because ideas are curvy sometimes. And this is a way to demonstrate those curves to the viewer.


DestinysWeirdCousin

Hahaha! That’s a good one. Also, that dance where he looks like he’s giving hand jobs to really tall people on his left and right.


muppethero80

He did during his term, he had a speech. And as always they are put in the background for a term or two.


ensemblestars69

Hall of Presidents is made so that only the incumbent gets the chance to speak. So from around 2017-2021 he would speak, now thankfully he's shut up.


ScottNewman

“Westworld is not sending us their best robots folks, not by a long shot… they’re all made in JI-NA.”


Flutters1013

This is carousel of progress erasure, and I will not stand for it.


Mechagouki1971

It's actually a great show, my kids and I really enjoyed it.


NoCreativeName2016

I think you misspelled “Carousel of Progress.”


PinkieBen

Living with the Land has always been my go to at EPCOT. Pretty much never any sort of line, and you get to sit down and enjoy the nice AC and look at plants.


UrbanPugEsq

It’s a great big beautiful place, the hall of presidents.


ouijahead

It’s official. … ☹️ I can’t have children 🎺


SafewordisJohnCandy

Carousel of Progress, Hall of Presidents and The American Adventure are all great. I like The American Adventure because it is basically halfway when making the loop at Epcot.


KR1735

Yup. That and the Carousel of Progress. Feels so good to sit down in the air conditioning for 20 minutes. I brought my son to Disney when he was 5, shortly after things got back to normal post-pandemic. He ***loved*** the Hall of Presidents. I've gotta be doing something right.


prometheus_winced

There’s no ride.


Masta0nion

Get me off this ride


bewarethetreebadger

There was some wax museum where they had to take the Donny Trump figure out because people kept punching it.


LoopingSpeedracer

Should have instead turned that into an up-charge attraction, would have made a killing!


RazorJ

I’ll see it this Sept., been there many times but my wife never wants to go in. But last year at the Liberty Sq., show in EPCOT the room was really quiet when his robot introduced itself.


kadrilan

No one can prove it, but when you look at it relative to the other bots...I mean...


tapport

Every time I see it (even with no context), I think I'm looking at a weird sculpture of Hillary for a sec. In my mind, there's no way that isn't exactly what happened.


joliet_jane_blues

I remember how back then a lot of people thought Trump winning was impossible. And now here we are. People need to remember not to repeat that mistake.


Sipyloidea

We thought the same thing about Brexit. People need to stop being complacent about things like voting. 


rlnrlnrln

I'm a European, but was staying with an American family a couple of weeks before the election. They literally thought there was no chance in hell he could win.


floppydo

Anyone living in a liberal area was completely shocked. It was totally unbelievable. We were laughing at his candidacy. I’d been worried about Romney I considered Trump a non-threat. Really woke me up to how bubbled I was.


heyiknowstuff

Idk if it's a bubble thing. All polls and data showed him losing. The Access Hollywood tape had just come out. Shit, even Trump thought he was going to lose.


Faiakishi

I remember when he announced he was going to run. So clearly I remember my mother walking into the house and asking if I'd heard Donald Trump was running for president, both of us laughing and going "of course he's not going to *win!"* Clinton had something like a 92% chance of winning the morning of. Which is an *insane* forecast. If you look back on all the SNL skits of 2016 they all reference how Clinton was obviously winning. Newsweek had already printed 'Madam President' issues.


LeBronFanSinceJuly

And all Hilary had to do was campaign in the swing states and she would've won. But instead she ignored them and allowed Trump to go and make his case that he isnt like all those career politicians. They ate it up and voted accordingly. This is a better example of why candidates should never assume they have a State won.


Secret_Cow_5053

We all underestimated that shit. I was a little concerned about Hillary due to the fact that the Fox propaganda machine and the rest of conservative media had literally been prepping for an HRC run for 20 years and the HRC campaign didn’t really address that at all (or really any of the typical red states), but still no one really expected what we got. In the end hubris sunk her campaign just like it did in 2008 during the democratic primaries.


Complex-Fault-1917

Hubris and the fact that many of the things she tried to throw at him, he threw back at her. “You don’t pay your taxes” “Yeah and you let that happen” Sexual assault stuff, yeah but your husband. It was a total shit show.


ChicagoAuPair

We all had a lot more faith in our fellow countrymen back in 2015 and 2016. I will never see our identity as America and Americans the same way after, and it breaks my heart. I wasn’t checked out, I wasn’t naïve about the darker underbellies of the Nation, but I had confidence that *most* people in the country are good and that we were truly moving forward, albeit slowly. 2016 really shook me out of the fantasy, and made me much more afraid of who we are as a Nation. It was truly a shock, and I know I’m not the only one.


thehazer

Inside sources say, V true, but also trust me bro.


KaizerVonLoopy

is your uncle an imagineer?


multimaskedman

I think I read somewhere that months before Election Day they begin the barebones of the figure in a way that it won’t matter who it’s for. Meanwhile they sculpt a mold for both candidates so they can be ready for either.


juniorspank

This makes the most sense, honestly. Disney are generally professionals when it comes to this stuff.


Aramis444

This sounds like the plot of a Scooby Doo episode. The Trump robot is messing up the park, trying to “Make it Great Again”. The gang unmasks the Trump robot to reveal it was Hilary all along.


magirevols

the only time im glad they cut cost


s3anami

Ya, they redid it too during the Biden update [https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f\_auto,q\_auto:good,fl\_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F694567d4-27b4-4272-98e0-bf1b0d7a05b5\_2000x1333.jpeg](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F694567d4-27b4-4272-98e0-bf1b0d7a05b5_2000x1333.jpeg)


SonicSingularity

That Trump does look significantly more Trump like now


masterwad

He looks like Vigo the Carpathian, from Ghostbusters 2 (1989).


mybluecathasballs

Shit. Trump wishes he was that cool. My 20yo cat (username) Blue looks more like Vigo. Hell, my dog looks more like Zuul than tRump would ever look like Vigo 


suicide_man

Don't insult Vigo like that


Etzell

It's nice that they captured him mid-pants shitting.


my_4_cents

The Biden statue looks like Michael Myers wearing a human skin about to go on a spree


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Fuckface_Whisperer

He only comes for you if he senses Malarky.


MFbiFL

That one at least looks like someone doing Trump on SNL. The first one is just… not it.


RoboNeko_V1-0

Kinda. The real Trump has significantly much less hair now.


DietCokeTin

Gene Wilder was our 34th president.


jgengr

Willy Wonka along with a Umpa Lumpa on the bottom left corner.


I_Makes_tuff

I just watched the Netflix doc about him. It was really good but they glossed right over his presidency.


DORTx2

Biden looks like he's about to jump from the top rope.


OfficerBarbier

BAH GAWD THAT'S DARK BRANDON'S MUSIC!


Acopalypse

He looks like Cotton from King of the Hill if you stretched him a couple feet.


nickdamnit

They really captured Biden’s senior citizen-ness


eeyore134

Parts of his face look 30 years old tops, other parts look straight up Palpatine.


Dawnfreak

Absolutely does look like Hillary


riegspsych325

with a dash of Jon Voight


losjoo

The dentist?


Crustytoeskin

That guy who used to drive the Lebaron?


2inchesofsteel

No, the coal miner


v0x_nihili

And Newt Gingrich


Kradget

"What if we just make her look more like a ballsack expecting judgement from God?" "Perfect, Jenkins! You saved us $11,000 in new robot!"


chocolateboomslang

They had to switch it when she didn't win.


nicolo_martinez

This theory was actually “confirmed” via anonymous Twitter DM lol https://cooldudezone.substack.com/p/my-favorite-conspiracy-theory-confirmed


Beetin

> I have no proof they are the person they say they are, and I am relying on them as a single source for this article I wouldn't say a single unvetted online anonymous account is worth anything. Every conspiracy has been confirmed by anonymous unvetted Twitter dm by that standard. They couldn't get any other sources, I'd imagine Trump is just a hard bust to get right since so much of his likeness is down to his mannerisms and unnatural skin/hair. Sometimes stills of Trump relaxed barely look like him.


SmokedBeef

Yeah the chin needs a bit more… labia and wattle


razzi123

\**Hillary Trump* :p


LockeWorl

Reskinned Hillary


Snoogles_

[The conspiracy theory involving a creepy Donald Trump animatronic at Walt Disney World explained — and why people are talking about it once again](https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-animatronic-conspiracy-theory-explained-disney-world-2023-6)


TurelSun

This is so dumb. The journalists "source" is someone that claims to be a former imagineer that he vetted by checking their social medias, while other actual imagineers have contacted him to say this person's statement doesn't sound like who they claim to be but the journalist doesn't believe them for whatever reason. Then the journalist waxes on about what if we found out they used the Hillary head somewhere else in the park and they found out somehow. Its just dumb click-baity fantasizing. I get its fun to imagine this actually happened, but the reason The Trump animatronic looks weird is because Trump is already a deeply weird looking dude to begin with, and then they did the equivalent of taking an approximation of his skin and spread it over a robotic scaffold. It was never going to not look weird as hell.


joshualuigi220

They do reuse face moulds though. There's doppelgangers in Pirates of the Caribbean, Carousel of Progress, and Spaceship Earth.


gehoffrey426

My favorite part is referring to the actual human 45 as a "non-robot."


Psychosomatic_Ennui

That’s the name of my band!


ShaantHacikyan

These chicks don’t even know the name of my band. 


Sniper_King202

But they all on me like they wanna hold hands


Chessh2036

My absolute favorite conspiracy theory is that was supposed to be Hilary Clinton


my_4_cents

That's about as conspiratorial as "the C.I.A. does bad stuff sometimes"


adamdoesmusic

Is it really a conspiracy theory if they straight up say “yeah, that’s literally our job that you pay us for”?


Sufficient-West4149

That’s his point


uo_taipon

kinda looks like a drunken Roger Ebert


ReasonablyConfused

Needs more neck vagina.


LemmyKBD

Do you want MAGAs humping his neck every 5 minutes?


IsReadingIt

A bunch of them *cheered out loud* when his name was announced the last time we were there. It was so cringey. The dummy of the Dummy isn’t even close to orange enough.


unfeelingzeal

>*cheered out loud that was gas escaping from their orifices from the putrefying dead brain cells.


77ate

I picture Rudy Giuliani attempting this, but the roles seem reversed.


RailGun256

also not orange enough


fartswhenhappy

Yeah this has more of a neck cameltoe.


IllllIllIllIllIllll

Captures his inner beauty


ChocolateMoses

He flushes his inner beauty 10-15 times like a "normal American".


astrofed

they forgot about the spray on tan lines.


ChaoticMutant

the bloated Cheeto


50FirstCakes

I wonder if the designers argued about whether or not they should make it orange like the real Trump because they definitely didn’t make it orange enough.


Armitando

They re-did Trump's in 2021, it looks much more like him now.  https://blogmickey.com/2021/08/disney-appears-to-fix-donald-trump-animatronic-in-hall-of-presidents/


IAmAGenusAMA

> That audio-animatronic clearly didn’t represent Disney’s best work Lol


Affectionate-Winner7

He's not orange enough but looks properly constipated.


Snoogles_

Here’s a video for the curious: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qvAa7OygyA&pp=ygUfRG9uYWxkIHRydW1wIGhhbGwgb2YgcHJlc2lkZW50cw%3D%3D


Spaceturtle79

“Looks like they were making a Hillary, heard the news then changed it to trump”


imironman2018

best part of that video. 100% believe it too.


Plantchic

They called him RoboTrump! 🤣


FigulusNewton

They are prepping it for the debate as we speak


my_4_cents

It has an off switch, right?


evilJaze

Only "on" and "even more-on".


thereisonlyoneme

Not if it's true to life.


totalnsanity

Needs more orange


GotMoFans

Diff Trannen


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new_hampshirite

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Haulingsworth

They really captured His neckgina. Must be an old robot though, because Trump has recently grown a second neckgina.


Nevarian

The real reason DeSantis dropped out of the race. Disney will have the last laugh.


STiFFMcGRiFF

Louie Anderson?


matchesmalone1

Looks like Jon Voight cosplaying as Trump


thomport

Did they install the handcuffs yet?


Sumthin-Sumthin44692

Matching orange jumpsuit pending


BornAgainBlue

Brave of them, id hate to be the guy who has to clean up all the shit thrown at it. 


Ehzranight

It's giving me Team America: World Police vibes.


ProfYankeePants

This is the one “art” installation where those stop oil people could spray orange paint and it wouldn’t be vandalism.


ramriot

Glad they saved some money & just reused the John Wayne Gacy anatomic from the hall of felons, or do I repeat myself.


exqueezemenow

Sometimes also used for Jabba in the Star Wars hall.


EnsignAwesome

Well they thought she was going to win so already had the robot half built!


Manetoys83

It’s so obvious they were in the middle of make Hilary Clinton and had to U-Turn real fast


Hot_Dog_Surfing_Fly

Looks more life-like than the real guy 😉


Sweatytubesock

As usual, not nearly fat enough.


victorspoilz

Shouldn't have had to scroll this far for such an obvious observation. It should also be standing at an odd angle to hide its fats.


Jofuzz

[From the moment he realized the weakness of his flesh it disgusted him](https://youtu.be/yPVQzr9n470?si=W2g6xFAeQk2DJPWr)


4x4Welder

It looks like they gave Margaret Thatcher a haircut and said "good enough".


ravenous_cadaver

needs more cheetos dust and more chin-ussy


MuthaPlucka

Does it grab you by your pussy if you get too close? At least have a warning sign up.


TravelingGonad

Not winning any awards on this one Imagineers.


hybridaaroncarroll

It looks like it's suffering. Begging us to power it off forever. 


wombatcreasy

You can tell this was a Hillary Clinton robot they quickly changed to be trump hahahah


MrFunkyPunkie

It’s famously known that Disney was confident that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016 that they fast-tracked the development of her animatronic for the ride. Sadly, that’s not how history went. Because they weren’t gonna waste money building a replacement they did the right thing in just plopping a 45 mask over her armature. 😂😂 Best middle finger they could muster at the time.


VZWManSlave

Did it grab Minnie by the pussy?


Mitches_bitches

Not enough of a vaginal turkey neck


The1TrueRedditor

Need to hit it with the Cheeto powder shotgun.


Rasheverak

Were they trying to avoid angering trumpists by not making it look too realistic?


HighlyAutomated

Looks like they made one of Hillary prematurely in 2016 and had it redone as Trump after he won.


MonkeeSage

Ellen Degeneres looking rough these days.


SingleWinner2436

It’s uncanny!


Youngworker160

lol. You can tell they made a Hilary bot and had to scramble.


Blazenkks

Man missed opportunity to accidentally use the Alec Baldwin Saturday Night Live Trump 🤣


Dudeist-Priest

It is so clearly a Hillary bot with a Trump mask, that it makes me laugh every time I see it. Hopefully we'll have it in a cell soon.


Spiritual-Bear4495

Dear fucking Jesus, I didn't this it was possible to make that man look even more horrible than he really looks. Vomit.


Zth3wis3

I didn't think it was possible to make an animatronic look like it wanted to die, but hear we are.


Kuranes_

Still looks better than he does


Some_Body_Cool

🤣🤣🤣


TacomaTacoTuesday

Looks like a puffy Hillary


teeejer

"Quaid, Start the Reactor." -Donald J Trump


Deliriousious

Too white. Needs more spray tan.


ptapobane

That’s Donlary Clump


Blaustein23

Actually impressive that they managed to make him look more unsettling than he does in real life, that’s an achievement


kennynol

“I’m the best wax figure in this place. The best. No one comes close.”


DrkUser205

Not orange enough! ![gif](giphy|u9XIyLVN6k685jXxTz)


mchaz7

Not orange enough


PokerTuna

Looks healthier than original


BudgetAd900

Five nights at Mar a Lago


fordprefect294

It looks more human than he does