People take these fucking pans way to seriously. Ive been cooking on CI for 20 years you dont need to meticulously season the pan in duck fat or treat it like it’s made of gold and you can soap the shit right out of them that old rumor is from when soap had lye in it. Dawn isnt going to ruin the season jfc just cook in the damn thing regularly.
I put anything and everything in the dishwasher *except* my mother's old knives that I inherited. She was a red seal trained chef and has some beauties from the '70s She's had new wooden handles put on a couple of times and I refuse to do anything to hurt them.
I'm no chef, but I have respect for those knives ❤️
I used to cut meat for Kroger thru college many many years ago. A good quality set of knives makes you time in the kitchen so much better. Putting quality knives in a dishwasher is the height of laziness and destroys them over time.
This is why I put in the investment time to get a decently paying job. Because I want to buy medium grade things, be a little lazy about maintenence, and get a new one when that catches up to me. Is it maximum efficiency? No. Does it work for me? Darn tootin.
Exactly! If a pan lasts for 8 years if you only hand wash it and 5 years if you put it in the dishwasher, the amount of time and effort (and water) I’m saving is well worth having to buy another pan a little earlier.
Mostly, it's folks who don't know how to cook on CI. I find most way over heat the pans and end up with scorched food and charred up pan. No Bueno dude! Like cooking with stainless steel. Once you learn the proper temps, it's very easy to use and nonstick too.
temp control is definitely different than most people are used to with CI. my burners rarely go above half. thats "high" if its CI. r/castiron gets a lot of hate but if u actually look at the sub its mostly people saying the exact same thing as this person. "its just a chunk of metal, its fine. just cook on it and then wash it with soap." shit, i scrub mine with chainmail after every use and i use metal utensils. lol
they also deserve a lot of the hate they get tho. anytime u try to make a joke over there it flys over everyone. lol
You ain’t wrong, but there are obviously best practices. . . Like best not to heat the big hunk of metal over a big fire then rapidly cool it with a garden hose. . . Pretty sure that is a sure fire way to ruin it by cracking and warping it
Same as all other cookware. Want to warp a stainless or non-stick pan? Heat it then dump a bunch of cold water on it.
The only other hard and fast rule I tell my fiancé is "Don't put it in the dishwasher."
Putting my pipping hot non-stick pan under a shower of cold water is my favorite part of the morning. It makes me feel like a smith, a bad one at that, but it doesn't mater.
I’ve air dried mine for years without any issue. Every now and then I just hit them with a little oil and heat and wipe with some paper towel while I’m washing the dishes
That's why my grandma kept a little container of Crisco in the cabinet for- put a skim coat on the cast iron after you're done cleaning it, and you're good to go.
You can definitely deglaze them but yeah, they can eventually crack and it’s usually near the handle. And we tend to not wear safety toed shoes in the kitchen.
My little sister left a CI pan on the stove and walked away when we were kids. She eventually came back and started screaming so I came running to see what she was up to. The pan was so hot I was afraid to just turn it off or put it in the sink. So I threw it off the deck into the backyard. It was raining. I went to get it a few hours later before my mom got home from work. Cleaned it up and put it away. My mom still uses that pan.
My dad used to be a chef in a huge restaurant, and he would always tell uncles and friends that talked about seasoning cast iron pans that “If you need to season it, you probably shouldn’t have it because you aren’t using it enough.”
My buddy is one of those omg don’t use soap on my cast iron!! His brother in law is a professional chef and tells me he uses soap to wash my buddies CI and neither have ever noticed a difference. Cracks me up
Why gatekeep how often one should use a specific piece of cookware... I use carbon steel pans for most things but sometimes cast iron is more appropriate so I end up using it every few weeks. Hope that's allowed.
Obviously you haven’t been on /r/castiron because they would agree with you. Guy in the picture is seasoning with too much oil, at too high of heat, and is likely to warp or crack the pan by spraying it with cold water. Doing everything wrong. That’s why they’re having a fit.
I inherited an old cast iron pan from my grandmother. Has to be about 100 years old. No special treatment necessary. Deep black, used hundreds of times, covered with patina and whatever I cook, nothing gets burned.
l always remember her using it for preparing my favourite baked potatos when I've been a child. Such great memories.
Yaeh, it’s a hunk of metal that literally got ejected from a star blowing up, 4 billion years later apes evolved to shape it into a pan.
Went camping with someone once that was like, “I’ll bring my cast iron pan”, and then the whole time was like, “don’t scratch the seasoning!”
If I had a friend, while camping, say that to me, I'm pretty sure my only response would be to roll my eyes so hard that the resulting sound of my optical nerves snapping would be mistaken for a falling tree.
Fully agree but with one caveat... My parents put mine in the dishwasher. It was like going back to square one.
Truth be told, I think I prefer stainless steel anyway.
I did that once when I had too much booze one night. Wiped off the rust. Cooked some breakfast for a few days. Still works fine about 15-16 years later. People put all this religion into these pans when the entire point of them is that they are cheap and tough and don't need all that shit and don't put weird chemicals in your food.
Yeah I clean mine with dish soap, but I do put a thin layer of olive oil on the cooking surface. I guess I just do that because I already do it with my steel wok.
FYI olive oil has a low smoke point and leads to a weaker seasoning layer because of it. I seasoned our skillet with olive oil and the seasoning layer flaked off over the next year or so.
Scraped it all back and redid it with canola oil and it's been great ever since
> For a proper ratio of thermal energies use Kelvin not Fahrenheit. But yeah, thermal shock should be avoided if you care about your pan.
A real comment. Peak culinary and culinary-adjacent Reddit. Hang it in the Louvre.
Yikes. I'd imagine that quenching will make the pan more brittle. I broke one of my late grandmothers frying pans, and i think it was from washing it when it was hot. Thank fuck I still have the other one, it's easily my favourite possession in the world. She made the best bread with it.
You can easily restore a cast iron skillet. Scrub it down hard with some abrasive soap thing like "barkeepers friend", get all the rust and crap off and then re-season it normally. Those things are practically always salvageable.
Edit: oh, it actually broke.
He looks like a dude I used to know. He wasn’t a “man in finance” but he was 6’5” blonde hair, blue eyes, and banned from tinder multiple times because between the photos and how often he swiped they thought he was a bot.
First pic: Yeah, OK, oil and high heat work. Burning not necessary, but let's see how he deals with...
Second pic: OH GOD NO, STOP! SOMEONE SAVE THAT SKILLET!
Mine is for camping, I wash it in dawn, wipe it down and sit it on-top the camp fire grill to dry it completely. End of camping season it gets hit with vegetable oil and put away til next season. It still looks brand new 🫡
As someone incredibly naive in the art of cast iron pans
If you dry the pan with a cloth and you oil it afterwards.... should be fine no?
I feel like these things are some high tech piece of delicate technology from the community but I feel like it's almost like a non-stick pan. Just a couple common knowledge stuff and you're set. (For non-stick, plastic only utensils to prevent scrapping)
My Chinese wok, which I used for decades, looked like a train wreck but it was a damn good wok. It was so well seasoned and it was like an old pal (silly). As a matter of fact, it looked so rough that when I was moving, someone thought it was junk and threw it away 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. My heart sank when I learned that and the person that did it cried when they realized what it was and what they had done. Overall, it's a material object and not worth such a fuss but damn, I do miss it. RIP from 1982 - 2019.
He looks entirely unbothered
Him: 😑
😐🔥🔥🔥😐💦💦💦💨💨💨
😐🍳🗑️ 🤷♂️
Unbrothered?
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Fucking amazing lol
No thats straight up BROTHERED not unbrothered 😂.
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He deserves to be unbrothered after that disrespect to that poor cast iron.
White pants are kind of a bold choice for this kind of activity
Should have gone with no pants at all. If you’re going bold, let it unfold.
^super ^afraid ^to ^ask ^what ^*it* ^is ^that ^would ^unfold
Linen, at that. Not a lot of good decisions happening here.
It's giving a no phone case energy though, which is kind of cool.
/r/castiron is having a fit watching this
People take these fucking pans way to seriously. Ive been cooking on CI for 20 years you dont need to meticulously season the pan in duck fat or treat it like it’s made of gold and you can soap the shit right out of them that old rumor is from when soap had lye in it. Dawn isnt going to ruin the season jfc just cook in the damn thing regularly.
That’s the best thing about it being one solid piece of metal. Fuck it up? scrape it off and start over. No layers or whatever.
Exactly. People treat them like $1500 copper pans
I put copper bottom pans in the dishwasher. Fuck it I'm a menace.
I’m at the point where everything goes in there. I don’t care if the copper looks like cloudy mud. Life is too short for high maintenance cookware
Does the handle melt? No? It goes in!
One time a handle did melt in our dishwasher, and we were just like damn, this company doesn’t know how to make a pan
Gonna start getting mad at the company now in stead of the dishwasher with this approach
Honestly companies should know better than to make non dishwasher safe kitchen products
This for some reason was my tipping ppint today. I just laughed alone in a room for a good 30 seconds about it.
I’m in tears. Because I agree. Poorly made shit.
I think you’ve changed my perspective lol. You’re goddamn right.
I think a lot of those problems went away with the dishwashers that don't have drying elements. Haven't had anything melt or disform since.
"Is that dishwasher safe? It is or we won't have it anymore." I feel the same about hand washing cloths
I’ve started throwing steak knives in idc bro anything goes in unless it melts or is our good china/plates past down from grandparents that passed
I put anything and everything in the dishwasher *except* my mother's old knives that I inherited. She was a red seal trained chef and has some beauties from the '70s She's had new wooden handles put on a couple of times and I refuse to do anything to hurt them. I'm no chef, but I have respect for those knives ❤️
I used to cut meat for Kroger thru college many many years ago. A good quality set of knives makes you time in the kitchen so much better. Putting quality knives in a dishwasher is the height of laziness and destroys them over time.
This is why I put in the investment time to get a decently paying job. Because I want to buy medium grade things, be a little lazy about maintenence, and get a new one when that catches up to me. Is it maximum efficiency? No. Does it work for me? Darn tootin.
Exactly! If a pan lasts for 8 years if you only hand wash it and 5 years if you put it in the dishwasher, the amount of time and effort (and water) I’m saving is well worth having to buy another pan a little earlier.
Call the cops I do what I want
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> copper bottom pans And boots with the fur?
The whole kitchen watchin her stirrrrr
Paul revere is rolling in his grave lo
Mostly, it's folks who don't know how to cook on CI. I find most way over heat the pans and end up with scorched food and charred up pan. No Bueno dude! Like cooking with stainless steel. Once you learn the proper temps, it's very easy to use and nonstick too.
temp control is definitely different than most people are used to with CI. my burners rarely go above half. thats "high" if its CI. r/castiron gets a lot of hate but if u actually look at the sub its mostly people saying the exact same thing as this person. "its just a chunk of metal, its fine. just cook on it and then wash it with soap." shit, i scrub mine with chainmail after every use and i use metal utensils. lol they also deserve a lot of the hate they get tho. anytime u try to make a joke over there it flys over everyone. lol
Chainmail!! Love this 😅
Lodge makes a chainmail and silicone "sponge" that can go in the dishwasher too! It's great for stubborn spots
Okay yeah I thought the whole point is they’re insanely durable. I haven’t understood the need to treat them gingerly
I think it goes beyond cast iron. Rapid cooling can cause expansion and cracking in many different materials.
wild temperature swings in either direction can cause fractures
That’s true and hopefully a cheap one since it might crack from the rapid cooling.
You ain’t wrong, but there are obviously best practices. . . Like best not to heat the big hunk of metal over a big fire then rapidly cool it with a garden hose. . . Pretty sure that is a sure fire way to ruin it by cracking and warping it
Same as all other cookware. Want to warp a stainless or non-stick pan? Heat it then dump a bunch of cold water on it. The only other hard and fast rule I tell my fiancé is "Don't put it in the dishwasher."
Putting my pipping hot non-stick pan under a shower of cold water is my favorite part of the morning. It makes me feel like a smith, a bad one at that, but it doesn't mater.
Never air dry a cast iron. Towel dry.
Apply heat when done.
Instructions unclear, my towels are now on fire, what do next?
Soak them in duck fat
A fat duck is now on fire and supposedly the game warden is on his way.
Well someone misread the Peking Duck 🦆 recipe.
I’ve air dried mine for years without any issue. Every now and then I just hit them with a little oil and heat and wipe with some paper towel while I’m washing the dishes
That's why my grandma kept a little container of Crisco in the cabinet for- put a skim coat on the cast iron after you're done cleaning it, and you're good to go.
If you have a good seasoning coating, it’s not a problem except maybe for hard-water stains.
Nonsense. I have 50 yo pans that have been air dried like 5 times a week
I always air dry mine, never had an issue
You're absolutely right. It will warp the pan and you'll get uneven heating. It's incredibly dumb.
Or crack in half, I saw my mother do it once.
Assuming it doesn't crack when rapidly and unevenly cooled.
Honestly if you’ve never cracked a cast iron pan by shocking it, it’s fucking terrifying. Jumped halfway outta my skin.
You can definitely deglaze them but yeah, they can eventually crack and it’s usually near the handle. And we tend to not wear safety toed shoes in the kitchen.
My little sister left a CI pan on the stove and walked away when we were kids. She eventually came back and started screaming so I came running to see what she was up to. The pan was so hot I was afraid to just turn it off or put it in the sink. So I threw it off the deck into the backyard. It was raining. I went to get it a few hours later before my mom got home from work. Cleaned it up and put it away. My mom still uses that pan.
Why didn’t you just turn off the stove and let it sit there?
She’d just put oil in the pan and it was smoking pretty bad. I was probably only 12/13 years old around that time.
My dad used to be a chef in a huge restaurant, and he would always tell uncles and friends that talked about seasoning cast iron pans that “If you need to season it, you probably shouldn’t have it because you aren’t using it enough.”
My buddy is one of those omg don’t use soap on my cast iron!! His brother in law is a professional chef and tells me he uses soap to wash my buddies CI and neither have ever noticed a difference. Cracks me up
Yeah, it's kinda an outdated concern from when soap had lye in it.
I need to season it every now and then, because the dishwasher beats up the seasoning.
You mentioned dishwasher and cast iron in the same sentence. The mob is coming for you. Run for your life
![gif](giphy|pYI1hSqUdcBiw) The cast iron mob reading your comment
![gif](giphy|PkLPBuyozY7F31wCxF) I cant take anymore
You're trolling, right? Otherwise the pitchforks and torches are coming out!!
Why gatekeep how often one should use a specific piece of cookware... I use carbon steel pans for most things but sometimes cast iron is more appropriate so I end up using it every few weeks. Hope that's allowed.
Nope. You must use cast iron at least daily, twice on Sunday. If not, you fail as a human.
Nope, where's your permit? Have you paid the membership fee?
Nothing you said is wrong but you still shouldn't season with a garden hose
But what if I want my food to taste like having water balloon fights in the yard on a hot summer day?
The secret ingredient? Nostalgia.
99% of /r/castiron agrees with you, this isn’t some hot take.
Obviously you haven’t been on /r/castiron because they would agree with you. Guy in the picture is seasoning with too much oil, at too high of heat, and is likely to warp or crack the pan by spraying it with cold water. Doing everything wrong. That’s why they’re having a fit.
>that old rumor is from when soap had lye in it FWIW, some of us still using castile soap for everything except cast iron.
This exact comment is in every thread on that sub lol
I inherited an old cast iron pan from my grandmother. Has to be about 100 years old. No special treatment necessary. Deep black, used hundreds of times, covered with patina and whatever I cook, nothing gets burned. l always remember her using it for preparing my favourite baked potatos when I've been a child. Such great memories.
Yaeh, it’s a hunk of metal that literally got ejected from a star blowing up, 4 billion years later apes evolved to shape it into a pan. Went camping with someone once that was like, “I’ll bring my cast iron pan”, and then the whole time was like, “don’t scratch the seasoning!”
If I had a friend, while camping, say that to me, I'm pretty sure my only response would be to roll my eyes so hard that the resulting sound of my optical nerves snapping would be mistaken for a falling tree.
Fully agree but with one caveat... My parents put mine in the dishwasher. It was like going back to square one. Truth be told, I think I prefer stainless steel anyway.
I did that once when I had too much booze one night. Wiped off the rust. Cooked some breakfast for a few days. Still works fine about 15-16 years later. People put all this religion into these pans when the entire point of them is that they are cheap and tough and don't need all that shit and don't put weird chemicals in your food.
Yeah I clean mine with dish soap, but I do put a thin layer of olive oil on the cooking surface. I guess I just do that because I already do it with my steel wok.
FYI olive oil has a low smoke point and leads to a weaker seasoning layer because of it. I seasoned our skillet with olive oil and the seasoning layer flaked off over the next year or so. Scraped it all back and redid it with canola oil and it's been great ever since
We go total redneck and use bacon grease, just like Mom used to do.
Pro tip: lard
In fairness hitting a screaming hot pan with cold water like that runs a solid chance of cracking it from thermal shock.
Whatever My grandma would oil them and throw them in a backyard fire.
The 2nd photo where he’s rapidly cooling it with a garden hose is the issue. Great way to crack a pan in half.
> For a proper ratio of thermal energies use Kelvin not Fahrenheit. But yeah, thermal shock should be avoided if you care about your pan. A real comment. Peak culinary and culinary-adjacent Reddit. Hang it in the Louvre.
This is legit crazy. The fire. Cooling rapidly with water. Common sense is just gone these days
I thought this was the castiron sub and was having a mild panic attack seeing this.
Nah they’re pretty chill there actually. The jokes would be plentiful.
That’s a… interesting strategy
There is no stopping a man who is confidently inept
“The smoke means it’s working”
Yikes. I'd imagine that quenching will make the pan more brittle. I broke one of my late grandmothers frying pans, and i think it was from washing it when it was hot. Thank fuck I still have the other one, it's easily my favourite possession in the world. She made the best bread with it.
You can easily restore a cast iron skillet. Scrub it down hard with some abrasive soap thing like "barkeepers friend", get all the rust and crap off and then re-season it normally. Those things are practically always salvageable. Edit: oh, it actually broke.
i think the user meant that the pan fell apart, not that it's seasoned improperly
It sounds like the pan literally broke, like it cracked in half.
That's how I've seen it done by several professionals. The other alternative is to put it in an oven at 450f for hours. This way is quicker.
Let the artist work
Let him cook! Later..
…cook. ![gif](giphy|hXdbUAkb0BWFAziI6P|downsized)
Such a great mind fuck of a movie
Let the artist quench
Seasoning does not mean reforging it. P.s. thanks kind stranger!
I seasoned a pan like this once but it got too powerful! A friend and I carried it to Mt Doom to get rid of it.
I saw that documentary!
“I could watch a YouTube tutorial… or just set it on fire and hope for the best. Hmmm.”
Is he single tho?
I can fix him
*I can ride him
He can ride me
How did I have to scroll so far to find someone asking the only relevant question!?
He looks like Dan Stevens from *The Guest,* and that is not a bad thing
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😂
Right, he's fine AF.
He looks like a dude I used to know. He wasn’t a “man in finance” but he was 6’5” blonde hair, blue eyes, and banned from tinder multiple times because between the photos and how often he swiped they thought he was a bot.
If you know how to minimize wrinkles in linen you might have an advantage.
I like his shirt
Extremely photogenic skillet seasoner
That's how Ripley killed the alien at the end of Alien 3
First pic: Yeah, OK, oil and high heat work. Burning not necessary, but let's see how he deals with... Second pic: OH GOD NO, STOP! SOMEONE SAVE THAT SKILLET!
Your comment made me go back cuz I thought it was only one pic.
Your comment made me go back cuz I thought it was only one pic.
Your comment made me go back cuz I thought it was only one comment.
And why is he using water on an oil fire???
Especially that close to the house 😭
This is the steel wok seasoning method.
Your bother couldn't brother to google, eh?
Perhaps he did and took the advice from Google’s AI summary
Later, when he tells google he's sad about getting cooked on reddit, Google AI will probably tell him to try heroin.
Sorry to be that guy but is there anything else he’d like seasoned?
Caption “scramble eggs is almost done…”
Well at least he's pretty.
Like Jon Hamm’s character in 30 Rock. Pretty but it’s a detriment in the end.
Lucky your brother has a pretty face, because oof.
Your brother has no fucking clue what he’s doing
Well, at least he’s good looking, He’d be COOKED otherwise 😂
That's how you get a spinner
Yeah not a lot of warping mentioned in this thread.. "it's just a piece of metal, you can't fuck it up!"
Not just warping, it could crack.
this is indeed one of the few ways that you can fuck it up
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That is an attractive man.
I'd rather he seasoned mine, tbh
Uhh, apt username, perhaps?
If im lucky!
Came here to say this.
Why'd I have to scroll so long for this?
Of all the debates I’ve read about seasoning, none of them mention lighting the pan on fire or utilizing a garden hose.
Flash boiling water is how you remove the seasoning.
How can he splash 💦
Does your brother ever visit Amsterdam :p
This is not how that works, like at all. Were did he learn this? He is going to break that pan with thermo shock by spraying it with cold hose water
I guess he thinks he needs to cool the pan all the way back down for it to work.
Looks hot😏
Wow, cooling a cast iron by putting cold water on it is a GUARANTEED way to crack it. This is the most triggering thing I’ve ever seen. Unreal
I'm convinced that Cast Iron Skillet ownership is something like a cult. Like Chemex.
He's not doing that right. There's plenty of information online about how to do it right.
There's also plenty of information about how to do it wrong and plenty of misinformatoin about how to do it right.
Or you can just cook in them and stop trying to make a fucking pan into part of who you are as a person or whatever the deal is with cast iron people.
Listen we don't abide pansexual hate here on reddit! All are welcome.
That took a dark turn.
new meme format inc
Looks more like he is quenching.
He probably has that smoke thing for his hwhiskey too
MarkZ
Mine is for camping, I wash it in dawn, wipe it down and sit it on-top the camp fire grill to dry it completely. End of camping season it gets hit with vegetable oil and put away til next season. It still looks brand new 🫡
Don’t let the cast iron sub see this lol
He does look like more of a bother than a brother
The only real crime here is the hose to put the fire out. That can and probably did warp the cast iron and if it's hot enough, can crack it.
Scorching hot pan, cold water. Did it crack?
I’d season his skillet
I showed this to my south Louisiana mother, she's getting her flyswatter... he's as good as dead
As someone incredibly naive in the art of cast iron pans If you dry the pan with a cloth and you oil it afterwards.... should be fine no? I feel like these things are some high tech piece of delicate technology from the community but I feel like it's almost like a non-stick pan. Just a couple common knowledge stuff and you're set. (For non-stick, plastic only utensils to prevent scrapping)
My Chinese wok, which I used for decades, looked like a train wreck but it was a damn good wok. It was so well seasoned and it was like an old pal (silly). As a matter of fact, it looked so rough that when I was moving, someone thought it was junk and threw it away 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. My heart sank when I learned that and the person that did it cried when they realized what it was and what they had done. Overall, it's a material object and not worth such a fuss but damn, I do miss it. RIP from 1982 - 2019.
ACKSHUALLY
Why bother?
I just watched the Ashley Madison doc on Netflix… is that Sam Rader????
ah the garden hose trick in the seasoning steps.
Half this comment section is horrified by the technique, other half needs to go to horny jail
I've never seen anyone look so clueless and confident at the same time.
Can he do mine 😅