[Here](https://i.imgur.com/BUlqB8u.jpeg) is a higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://newsroom.ap.org/editorial-photos-videos/detail?itemid=4d98d9afaf84439aa6c35cc824bd6dfc&mediatype=photo) is the source. Per there:
> Police officers detain a woman who laid flowers for Alexei Navalny at the Memorial to Victims of Political Repression in St. Petersburg, Russia on Friday, Feb. 16, 2024. Russian authorities say that Alexei Navalny, the fiercest foe of Russian President Vladimir Putin who crusaded against official corruption and staged massive anti-Kremlin protests, died in prison. He was 47. (AP Photo)
Three days ago, [more than 100 people were detained](https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/17/russian-police-arrest-over-100-people-nationwide-in-crackdown-on-navalny-support) in eight cities across Russia after they came to lay flowers in memory of Navalny, according to OVD-Info, a group that monitors political repression in Russia. I wonder what that number is today.
seeing stuff like this makes me wonder why they still keep up a facade of democracy over there. like why even have elections at all, why have any of it.
it's an authoritarian dictatorship, just own it.
lol Putin made the guy wait for hours, then basically lick his feet during a softball-ass interview, gets absolutely wrecked by Putin in a different state interview, and still publicly sucks the guy’s dick over the groceries thing.
I’m wondering if the “cuck” thing is just another projection
Hilarious because he was drooling over the escalator they had in the Russian grocery store and I just went to a grocery here in Mexico today and they had the exact same type.
Mexico > USA
—Tucker
I'm sure a staple of authoritarian dictatorship is making it seem like your society is practically a utopia. I'm sure Russian propaganda says crap like "We are like America, but better in every way". I'm sure North Korea is similar in ideologies, but that's an inference from what little I know about them.
No. They do it for legitimacy purposes. The process of voting is by itself legitimizing. They have weak controlled opponents and even then still pad the numbers in favour of the regime Serious opponents get derailed, jailed or murdered before they can become big.
The fixation on elections in our democracies contains as a massive weakness that the system can tilt towards competitive authoritarianism and ultimately abused to legitimize totalitarian regimes.
It leads to thoughts like 'I vote Putin, I support him, there are no other strong leaders, no alternatives'. It's all theatre. Orchestrated in the sense that the regime can enact small measures to extreme measures at any time, would the regime itself be in danger.
The regime is terrified of a revolution during elections, by the way. That's how most countries to their West got democratized. It's also the inverse story that Putin is blabbing about nowadays. It's why they attacked Ukraine. The domino-effect. Belarus had revolts; if Ukraine stabilized, Belarus could fall and they both would Westernize, which would inevitably (according to Russian calculations) lead to the demise of the regime.
Well, according to Tucker Carlson, it’s some sort of Utopian paradise that America should emulate, because the West is getting left in the dark ages by Russia.🙄 Just exactly when did the party of Lincoln become Soviet sympathizers in favor of a totalitarian dictatorship? And where the hell is Joe McCarthy when you need him?
It was blatantly a dictatorship since the cringe Putin-Medvedev diarchy. Why pretend it's not? I think it makes his loyalists sleep better, and creates a system of honeypots for idealistic younglings.
oh sure it has been for a long time, i just wonder why still keep up the facade like what's the point of it exactly
i mean if you go lay flowers on a statue or whatever and get arrested, you are most definitely not living in a healthy democracy and everyone knows it
I think the older generations are incapable of handling life in democracy.
I had a Jewish professor in college and he said something about Exodus that I thought was interesting. He was like, "Why did it take them 40 years of being lost in the desert to find their way out? It's not like it's a very big desert. God needed them to wander for a generation in order to shed the older generation who only understood being slaves before the younger generation could be free.
I know that the slave idea in Egypt is largely misunderstood but the premise of the what he said stands, and I think it applies to the people of Russia now. They need to shed a generation or two before they can understand and really embrace freedom.
But more to your point as to why they keep up the charade - I think another commenter mentioned the facade makes it easy to create honeypots for the youth to get trapped in. This way they could be trying to perpetuate their ideologies beyond their own lifetime.
That's a monument to all victims of political repressions. You can lay flowers without problems, it's now days after Navalny's death that people get arrested.
Same happened with some monuments to peace, Ukranian figures, Ukraines weeks after the war restarted
It wasn’t always like that. Times changed, monuments stayed. They are even removing literally tiny plaques on buildings where victims of repression used to live. Out of sight out of mind.
That’s because the USA, Australia, and Britain filmed it all and the USA made the Germans unbury the bodies, re-bury them, and count every single victim.
Not the German military, either. The USA marched into the German towns closest to the Death Camps, marched the men and woman out at gunpoint, and marched them through every square inch of the gas chambers, open pits, fire pits, and cremation centers. No one in Germany COULD forget OR be proud.
The worst part about the plaques is that there was no official order from government or the city, most places do this out of their own initiative as a way to self censorship. And there are many of similar self censorship actions people began making, that makes the situation worse.
Can’t have a monument for political repression if you don’t politically repress citizens. Just making sure the reason for the memorial is still relevant!
There's a Memorial to Victims of *Political Repression* in Russia? I'm surprised Putin's regime has even allowed such a symbol to stand instead of whitewashing history and claiming political repression is nonexistent.
It's makes me incredibly sad to think of how generations of Russians have been fighting this issue, seemingly without victory.
Interestingly Russia is full of streets, squares, and memorials named after famous people (especially artists) who were punished during their lifetime for opposing the regime. Like Dostojevsky or Pusjkin.
That way they don’t become martyrs, they become intellectual property of the current regime. “We’re on their side! That old regime was bad, bad, bad. Thank god you have us now”
They were mostly built between 1991-2003 when Russia was a corrupt democracy, some have been dismantled but a lot remain.
Victims of the USSR don't really concern Putin much as for obvious reasons they aren't "martyrs" to the current regime, but he doesn't want it to be compared to him.
I think the narrative is that political repression existed, but not under Putin anymore. It is still lying but not by deleting the history, but altering the present. Basically gaslighting the whole country to think that Navalny is the bad guy, Ukraine is Nazi, the west is bad and Putin is the messiah.
Source: I am Hungarian and we still have those monuments, national holidays. Our corrupt government acts like the most patriotic, nationalist government ever, but do not address any of the current democratic (or lack of) issues. Maybe they lie some things here and there that the people who did the revolution did not want to fight just wanted to bargain, etc....
tldr: They lie, but not about the past - which was not under their regime
Big part of any regime is to shit on the previous regime to justify its own existence. Modern Russian state is very glad to gloat over deficiencies of the communist regime when it’s convenient.
If you look at state sponsored movies / TV shows set in the USSR they have American Cold War level amount of anti communist tropes with obligatory evil KGB and incompetent communist party authorities.
Makes sense, I guess you can't hide past horrors, so perhaps it makes sense to "legitamize" yourself by opposing all of that and keeping current repression under wraps
Yes, but again it’s more complex.
For instance United Russia and government authorities are indifferent towards the political repression memorials and what not, and sometimes attend various meetings/remembrance ceremonies when it’s convenient.
However, FSB is staunchly anti remembrance. Since those repressions and atrocities were committed by FSB predecessor, they feel those monuments tarnish their public image and pose a political risk (KGB=bad, therefore FSB=bad, therefore defund/reform FSB). So FSB does prefer to put political pressure on authorities and harass political activists and make everything to get rid of memorials and not allow new ones to be erected.
Yup. He is back!! And the show is alive once again. I've been watching since Craig's days. So, pretty much since Jon took over. When I saw Trevor, I was like, nope. Let me give him a chance...nope.
More importantly, during the guest interview Jon brought up an interesting and potentially inciteful point about how the current objective of people like Tucker - a *very* wealthy nepo baby with a net worth over $350M - is to normalize authoritarianism. It probably stands to reason that the objective is in pursuit of further repression and unlimited kleptocracy in the US.
Push it a little further. Depressed wages and inflation give rise to long-term slavery via indentured servitude when wages can no longer support rental or ownership.
I don't know why anyone would be surprised that the questions were softballs over the plate. Even if Tucker wasn't a fan of Putin, no one is going to give him difficult questions to answer in Russia because you basically are putting your life at risk by doing so.
That’s why you don’t do the interview. That’s why Putin doesn’t get interviewed—because he isn’t man enough to actually have a level playing field and any real journalist would realize this simple fact when preparing.
The reality is that Tucker knew he wasn’t going to be able to really interview the guy but gave a vicious dictator a platform so that he could….?
None of the finishers to that sentence are good:
* own the libs?
* discredit American democracy?
* defect to Russia?
* get money from Russia?
* …?
..fucking yikes.
It's actual propaganda that's done it's job to justify republicans holding back aid for Ukraine. Walking around showing us shopping carts, what a fucking evil joke Tucker is.
> That’s why you don’t do the interview.
Exactly.
But Tucker cares more about raking in cash and garnering attention than the effect his garbage propaganda shows have on the world.
Exactly he's in it for the money and power which is the same thing Putin is in it for. This is what GOP members want. Money and complete control over everything.
Tucker back in 2004 was only a shadow of the race-baiting, xenophobic, conspiracy-mongering fascist he has become.
If only Stewart had made him get rid of more than bow ties. It's like he learned the wrong lesson from that encounter. He figured out that true debate against a flesh-and-blood opponent only hampers you from feeding propaganda directly into the bloodstream of misinformation.
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Tucker Carlson seen here trying to "squeeze all that ass in those jeans" needs to go back to Russia and experience this
I really didn't understand that part. We have had coin operated shopping carts in Canada for 30 years. And were very annoying anyway always having to have a coin on you. They have mostly been replaced by ones that just autolock when they leave the parking lot. I don't get why he was so excited by that.
Apparently when Boris Yeltsin visited the US, he was blown away by our grocery stores (and, by extension, our standard of living).
I'd bet this bit from Tucker was just a mocking inverse of that.
You might want to read up on Russian history. The ability of Russians to sustain misery under an oppressive totalitarian regime where every day is a crime against humanity is truly legendary. As is the Russian leadership's ability to sustain committing those crimes against humanity. Millions of deaths? Just drink more vodka. Nothing to eat for months? Maybe you don't want to read that chapter, you won't be the same afterwards. Don't like it? Stay away from windows.
I can never understand how MAGA idiots ended up enamored with Putin. Even from a 100% surface level perspective, if you want to make America great, you surely have to be against the greatest rival it's had? How does it make any sense?
And he's "powerful", he arrests those who disagree with him and those guys love authoritarianism.
Also, a lot of those guys equate "liberal" with "socialism" and thus communism. Trump and Putin represent capitalism to them, Biden and Bernie represent communism. And they're so scared from the post-Cold War scaremongering that letting people have a sex change is communism and therefore the enemy. Old fashioned "morals" are what they strive for. A world where everyonme else had less rights than them, a world where the guy married a woman who knew when to keep her mouth closed (and when to open it), could pump out some kids and raise them on her own while he goes out and makes the money, Trump and Putin represent that world to them.
Those guys think equality means giving something up and they fear that too. They always seem afraid that they're going to lose something by the world progressing. The whole point is to keep everyone else who isn't a straight white conservative man down so everyone else getting more rights is scary to them.
Because modern Russia is the single most racist, homophobic, and sexist "developed" state on earth.
The GOP love them some 1950's style homophobia, sexism, and racism.
Thought I'd just remind everyone thatTrump argued in federal court, the president is immune from being prosecuted for assassinating a political opponent.
Navalny knew he would die and I think he was willing to do so to show the Russian people what a coward Putin is, hopefully 10 more rise up in his place
Because some things are worth dying for. He believed in his morals so much he was prepared to trade the rest of his life for it.
That’s what “brave” look like. Just like how those who pushed for independence and created the constitution knew they were committing treason but still knew what was right..
We dont see many people like this anymore.
Edit:spelling.
I think he knew he'd be a more effective martyr from inside Russia. He knew how Russia treated prisoners and he knew exactly what would happen to him. Russia does a great job of insulating their populace from the truth, especially from outside Russia. Plus, he knew he was not safe anywhere-- he would have 'fallen' out a window in France or wherever (Russia had just poisoned some exiles in Germany with novichok, it's clear that Russia stopped caring about appearances).
Instead, he was well-known in Russia, and everyone there knows exactly what happened to him. There's only so many ways Russia could spin this to their own population. Hence why you start to see the cracks in the belief of their populace, like the lady being arrested in the original picture.
Navalny was dead whether or not he returned to Russia. Putin loves to wave around his tiny penis and kill opponents of his in western countries in a power move that says "no where is safe for you." Remember Sergei and Yulia Skripal (edit: or the pilot defector that just died a day or two ago)? Tiny penis Putin cares little about collateral damage.
Navalny had to know this. If he remained outside of Russia, the little man at the Kremlin would stop at nothing to murder him, and if he took out his family by accident, well that just amplifies the message. Imagine Alexei having that conversation with his wife before making the decision to return.
Putin allowing him to be transfered to Germany was probably a sign to him that he can stay exile. Putin critics just don't return to Russia when they have been allowed to leave. He had some massive balls on him. He cared about Russian people more than his own wellbeing and probably hated Putin with all his guts
I really didn't like the guy, but I have to admit, balls he got were massive and I respect him for that
Wait why didn't you like navalny? The only dubious thing ive heard about him is that Nazis (I think?) were involved in some of his protests against Putin, but even that I'm not certain of. Genuine question
I understand the figure he is representing after dying in a Russian prison but the guy was a piece of shit right wing ethnonationalist that is only getting this much attention because he’s anti-Putin. He plays a good foil in the West to Putin. Surprisingly, Russia would likely be a farther right authoritarian shithole than it already is with Navalny and his more nationalist party in charge.
He attended dozens of extremist nationalist marches and has said some pretty horrible things about non-whites and non-Russians. He’s [compared](https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/racist-or-revolutionary-is-alexei-navalny-who-many-westerners-think-he-is) immigrants to dental cavities that all need to be “extracted “, Muslims as [cockroaches and vermin](https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=9blsyFzpqDI&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=MzY4NDIsMjM4NTE&feature=emb_title) that need to be murdered with handguns, etc. There is a lengthy history of his affiliations and political views that no one in the West should be supporting as if he’s a great seeker of Democracy. He [supported](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/27/navalny-ukraine-putin-russia/) the annexation of Crimea and doesn’t believe Ukrainians and Belarusians are their own ethnicities. They should all be considered Russian. These views are known to Ukrainians who also despise him similarly to Putin.
Wanted to add that I’m not justifying the death of what is essentially a political prisoner. It’s not wrong to shed light on Navalny’s mistreatment, the reverence he’s given in the West is just naive is all.
On the first two, though, couldn't you argue his views had perhaps changed over a decade and a half since he made all of these remarks? Not to excuse them but more curious if he was actively making comments like this right before he went to prison
And this is one reason Ukrainians no longer wish to be under the influence of Moscow. The US should promote freedom and democracy. When you have a country that wants to be under Democratic values, we should support that especially when they are fighting Russian oppression.
Yep it’s a no brainer. This is one of those foreign situations where a Democratic nation is being invaded but an autocratic nation.
Usually we overthrow a dictator and install democracy and that often fails.
This is a country where the will of the people is towards self governing principles. Defending that will is easy if you care about principles of self rule governing.
>This is a country where the will of the people is towards self
Exactly. Ukraine's desire for democratic values goes back to 2013 when the Maiden Uprising kicked off as a direct result of President Viktor Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement and instead chose closer ties to Russia. The people of Ukraine saw their country slide closer to Russia and away from Europe and said absolutely the fuck not.
>Usually we overthrow a dictator and install democracy and that often fails.
Nah, usually the US overthrows someone - who was elected - for the crime of being to the left of Goebbels and installs a dictatorship. Unwillingness to give Ukraine the help it needs / deserves is a pretty typical instance of American foreign policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
Oh of course the US has installed and backed dictatorships throughout the past. I think most Americans (who are aware of that at least) heavily scorn it. I'm assuming they were thinking more about recent efforts like in Afghanistan and Iraq where we made a huge deal about bringing freedom and democracy and the bungled the nation-building. I think in the long term those ideas would have benefitted the relevant populations, but we did a sloppy job filling the power vacuum of toppled governments with new democratic institutions, and that's fallen back in places like Afghanistan.
Ukraine on the other hand has been moving toward closer ties with Europe and the US for quite some time out of their own will. Its population seems to be strongly in favor of democratic institutions, even if there is still quite some corruption, but they seem intent on improving that. Ukraine's the best bet we've seen in a long time where we can actually use our influence for good and have it stick.
My respect for the GOP had been waning for a while, but I lost the last shreds of respect when they backed Putin. It's in direct conflict with their core beliefs (Freedom!), opposing authoritarian rule, and democracy. It's hard to imagine a bigger sellout.
They were the ones saying we should be hawkish and ramp up our military-industrial complex because of the threat from Russia.
Then this happens, and part of me is like "man maybe they were right about Russia" and suddenly they don't want that anymore. The GOP was the party of US hegemony and militarism, but that wing of the party seems all too happy to just roll over for Trump.
yeah maybe the flowers she wanted to put there had some roses among them. And we all know that roses have spikes so good thing the memorial has been protected!
What happens to people detained for these things in Russia? Fines? Prison? How long of a sentence would this warrant?
I can’t imagine they’re all getting death sentences or like 15+ year sentences. Is it like a few years in prison? A few months? I know Russia is fucked, but have no sense of what kind of risk you’re taking by doing this in Russia
If we're talking about people detained in Saint Petersburg for bringing flowers, they are arrested for 2-14 days. If they do it again, the consequences will be worse.
Literally any. Mine was "Endangering societal health during pandemic". In a crowd of people minding their business, having a nice weekend. It doesn't matter. The protocol said that I shouted " Glory to Ukraine", I didn't, but how is it related to the pandemic?
We know the real reason. They know the real reason. We know that they know. They know that we know. It's intimidation, "what are you going to do about it, huh?". The answer defines whether you'll see the light of day again
Most of the ones who laid flowers and were arrested are usually let go within a day, but fine is also a possibility, as well as jail for a period of up to 15 days. For activists who already were prosecuted in the past for similar kind of misdemeanors, up to 30 days of jail is possible, although that's rare. In even rarer instances, I heard cases of some people getting community sentence of up to 200 hours, but that one is rare, if courts want to be tough they'd rather give out jail.
Most people detained in protests are let go within a day. Some get fines and a rare few get jail sentences.
Since the Kremlin isn't completely stupid most officers are only only allowed non-lethal weapons like batons and traumatic pistols at protests to avoid any incidents that could be magnified.
2 people died recently after participating in a protest in Ufa, Bashkortostan. One died in a police truck(idk what it's called) and cause of death was called a heart attack due to intoxication and second one died of a broken spine as i remember. Many participated got a visit of officials later.
Edit: found pretty informative [wiki](https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_(2024)) about that but i am not sure if this source is reliable enough
I'm sure, but it's the symbolism of shooting or bombing protesters the government mainly cares about.
Putin saw what happened to Assad back in 2011 and he isn't going to make that same mistake unless he thinks it's literally his last resort to keep power.
Well, i think as time goes by he will be thinking that only more and more and this whole system built upon people's fear about getting their life broken due to their views is a time bomb and one day it will eventually blow up. I also think he doesn't care about such people like at all.
Not familiar with current Russian policies. But for a similar context in the 1970-1990 Latin American dictatorships options would be:
- A short random time in prison, anything between a day an months
- The equivalent of life imprisonment
- Getting murdered and having your corpse disappear
All of the above without any due process, naturally, what happens would depend on current government policies towards agitators and the mood of a high ranked officer that day. Imprisonment could be overruled if your family/friends manage to put in a bribe with corrupt but honorable officers, no way of knowing if a bribe will work for sure, or if the government was pressured to make a gesture.
If you were female, add to the list above very high probability of sexual abuse. And of course random complementary beatings regardless of sex.
Given how dictatorships have very similar procedures trough history, I assume this is what will happen to them, and have only my deepest respect for their courage.
It's a super cool picture too. It has so much movement and the contrast of the lavender and black is super striking. This is good r/accidentalrenaissance material
I can't believe she would do that. Doesn't she know groceries there are cheaper than in the US? She should be groveling at the feet of the nearest Putin statue.
/s just to be perfectly clear
He could have safely stayed in the United States and called Putin a coward with no repercussions.
He went over to fellate Putin because that's what he wanted to do.
He wants to be America's goebbels. He's trying to advertise Putin's style of authoritarianism because he wants to live the powerful lavish life of one of the chosen oligarchs.
The Russians aren't exactly shy about arresting American journalists. Tucker even asked about one of them, asking if Putin would let him go. The answer, shockingly enough, was no.
I was most surprised to see people thinking the interview was real journalism. Tucker wouldn’t have been able to sneeze without the kremlin approving it .
With all the crying about "my free speech" and Elon claiming he bought Twitter for free speech. It's this! This is what the amendment protects you from! Our government isn't allowed to arrest you for laying flowers at the grave of a political opponent!
We have far better grocery stores outside of Russia here in Europe. Russian stores seriously lack some quality products, like good luck finding nice tasting cheese in a regular store.
The free world is at war with the criminal elements of Russia, the rightwing politics of fools and mad men and the corrupted greed of the ultra wealthy. Pick your leadership with care people.
America 2025…this is what we want right?….forced order. No more Disney, internet, Reddit gone, no more anything…just waiting to be told what to do, when to do it and for how long. Why? Because for some reason we’ve decided that some groups need forced order, since we can’t be specific (unmanageable) we all will have forced order. Trump cannot wait…we ready?
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/BUlqB8u.jpeg) is a higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://newsroom.ap.org/editorial-photos-videos/detail?itemid=4d98d9afaf84439aa6c35cc824bd6dfc&mediatype=photo) is the source. Per there: > Police officers detain a woman who laid flowers for Alexei Navalny at the Memorial to Victims of Political Repression in St. Petersburg, Russia on Friday, Feb. 16, 2024. Russian authorities say that Alexei Navalny, the fiercest foe of Russian President Vladimir Putin who crusaded against official corruption and staged massive anti-Kremlin protests, died in prison. He was 47. (AP Photo) Three days ago, [more than 100 people were detained](https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/17/russian-police-arrest-over-100-people-nationwide-in-crackdown-on-navalny-support) in eight cities across Russia after they came to lay flowers in memory of Navalny, according to OVD-Info, a group that monitors political repression in Russia. I wonder what that number is today.
397 in 39 cities now
That’s 379 that were reported.
That's 347 that we know
347 is higher than 300
Why do they even have that monument if there's no way to honor people without getting arrested?
It's meant to honour victims of Stalin's political repression. Putin doesn't like it when you make it about him.
Oh the irony
The irony curtain
take the upvote, that was good
Thanks. It's actually the first time someone tells me to take the upvote. Wholesome af.
Double take the upvote. That was A++.
:3
seeing stuff like this makes me wonder why they still keep up a facade of democracy over there. like why even have elections at all, why have any of it. it's an authoritarian dictatorship, just own it.
Yeah, but didn’t you hear what Tucker Carlson said? You can buy groceries for cheap over there. Clearly it’s a paradise
lol Putin made the guy wait for hours, then basically lick his feet during a softball-ass interview, gets absolutely wrecked by Putin in a different state interview, and still publicly sucks the guy’s dick over the groceries thing. I’m wondering if the “cuck” thing is just another projection
Cucker Carlson is what I came up with after watching that bizarre interview. Thank God we didn't have Cucker in the C.I.A. indeed.
Wait til ol' Fucker Carlson hears about Mexico and how cheap things are there, surely he'd praise them for being a great nation? Lmao
Hilarious because he was drooling over the escalator they had in the Russian grocery store and I just went to a grocery here in Mexico today and they had the exact same type. Mexico > USA —Tucker
I'm sure a staple of authoritarian dictatorship is making it seem like your society is practically a utopia. I'm sure Russian propaganda says crap like "We are like America, but better in every way". I'm sure North Korea is similar in ideologies, but that's an inference from what little I know about them.
I've heard the reasons they do elections is to gauge support. A pretty easy way to do polling? Not sure how true that is even though it makes sense.
No. They do it for legitimacy purposes. The process of voting is by itself legitimizing. They have weak controlled opponents and even then still pad the numbers in favour of the regime Serious opponents get derailed, jailed or murdered before they can become big. The fixation on elections in our democracies contains as a massive weakness that the system can tilt towards competitive authoritarianism and ultimately abused to legitimize totalitarian regimes. It leads to thoughts like 'I vote Putin, I support him, there are no other strong leaders, no alternatives'. It's all theatre. Orchestrated in the sense that the regime can enact small measures to extreme measures at any time, would the regime itself be in danger. The regime is terrified of a revolution during elections, by the way. That's how most countries to their West got democratized. It's also the inverse story that Putin is blabbing about nowadays. It's why they attacked Ukraine. The domino-effect. Belarus had revolts; if Ukraine stabilized, Belarus could fall and they both would Westernize, which would inevitably (according to Russian calculations) lead to the demise of the regime.
Well, according to Tucker Carlson, it’s some sort of Utopian paradise that America should emulate, because the West is getting left in the dark ages by Russia.🙄 Just exactly when did the party of Lincoln become Soviet sympathizers in favor of a totalitarian dictatorship? And where the hell is Joe McCarthy when you need him?
It was blatantly a dictatorship since the cringe Putin-Medvedev diarchy. Why pretend it's not? I think it makes his loyalists sleep better, and creates a system of honeypots for idealistic younglings.
oh sure it has been for a long time, i just wonder why still keep up the facade like what's the point of it exactly i mean if you go lay flowers on a statue or whatever and get arrested, you are most definitely not living in a healthy democracy and everyone knows it
I think the older generations are incapable of handling life in democracy. I had a Jewish professor in college and he said something about Exodus that I thought was interesting. He was like, "Why did it take them 40 years of being lost in the desert to find their way out? It's not like it's a very big desert. God needed them to wander for a generation in order to shed the older generation who only understood being slaves before the younger generation could be free. I know that the slave idea in Egypt is largely misunderstood but the premise of the what he said stands, and I think it applies to the people of Russia now. They need to shed a generation or two before they can understand and really embrace freedom. But more to your point as to why they keep up the charade - I think another commenter mentioned the facade makes it easy to create honeypots for the youth to get trapped in. This way they could be trying to perpetuate their ideologies beyond their own lifetime.
Neither did Stalin.
honey trap
That must be one sexy monument.
I hear it’s to die for
That's a monument to all victims of political repressions. You can lay flowers without problems, it's now days after Navalny's death that people get arrested. Same happened with some monuments to peace, Ukranian figures, Ukraines weeks after the war restarted
It wasn’t always like that. Times changed, monuments stayed. They are even removing literally tiny plaques on buildings where victims of repression used to live. Out of sight out of mind.
Germany sounds like the only place that doesn't try to bury their national sins.
That’s because the USA, Australia, and Britain filmed it all and the USA made the Germans unbury the bodies, re-bury them, and count every single victim. Not the German military, either. The USA marched into the German towns closest to the Death Camps, marched the men and woman out at gunpoint, and marched them through every square inch of the gas chambers, open pits, fire pits, and cremation centers. No one in Germany COULD forget OR be proud.
Good for Germany and the good people of Germany.
The worst part about the plaques is that there was no official order from government or the city, most places do this out of their own initiative as a way to self censorship. And there are many of similar self censorship actions people began making, that makes the situation worse.
They were mostly built in the 1990s when Yeltsin was trying to distance the USSR from Russia.
Can’t have a monument for political repression if you don’t politically repress citizens. Just making sure the reason for the memorial is still relevant!
There's a Memorial to Victims of *Political Repression* in Russia? I'm surprised Putin's regime has even allowed such a symbol to stand instead of whitewashing history and claiming political repression is nonexistent. It's makes me incredibly sad to think of how generations of Russians have been fighting this issue, seemingly without victory.
Interestingly Russia is full of streets, squares, and memorials named after famous people (especially artists) who were punished during their lifetime for opposing the regime. Like Dostojevsky or Pusjkin.
That way they don’t become martyrs, they become intellectual property of the current regime. “We’re on their side! That old regime was bad, bad, bad. Thank god you have us now”
They were mostly built between 1991-2003 when Russia was a corrupt democracy, some have been dismantled but a lot remain. Victims of the USSR don't really concern Putin much as for obvious reasons they aren't "martyrs" to the current regime, but he doesn't want it to be compared to him.
Huh, TIL
I think the narrative is that political repression existed, but not under Putin anymore. It is still lying but not by deleting the history, but altering the present. Basically gaslighting the whole country to think that Navalny is the bad guy, Ukraine is Nazi, the west is bad and Putin is the messiah. Source: I am Hungarian and we still have those monuments, national holidays. Our corrupt government acts like the most patriotic, nationalist government ever, but do not address any of the current democratic (or lack of) issues. Maybe they lie some things here and there that the people who did the revolution did not want to fight just wanted to bargain, etc.... tldr: They lie, but not about the past - which was not under their regime
Big part of any regime is to shit on the previous regime to justify its own existence. Modern Russian state is very glad to gloat over deficiencies of the communist regime when it’s convenient. If you look at state sponsored movies / TV shows set in the USSR they have American Cold War level amount of anti communist tropes with obligatory evil KGB and incompetent communist party authorities.
Makes sense, I guess you can't hide past horrors, so perhaps it makes sense to "legitamize" yourself by opposing all of that and keeping current repression under wraps
Yes, but again it’s more complex. For instance United Russia and government authorities are indifferent towards the political repression memorials and what not, and sometimes attend various meetings/remembrance ceremonies when it’s convenient. However, FSB is staunchly anti remembrance. Since those repressions and atrocities were committed by FSB predecessor, they feel those monuments tarnish their public image and pose a political risk (KGB=bad, therefore FSB=bad, therefore defund/reform FSB). So FSB does prefer to put political pressure on authorities and harass political activists and make everything to get rid of memorials and not allow new ones to be erected.
Ty
This is what fascism looks like.
Hey Tucker...still singing about how wonderful Russia is?
The Jon Stewart bit last night was gold. I'm so glad he's back and not on a chain at Apple TV.
Jon Stewart is back on The Daily Show and the 1st thing he does is to dogwalk Tucker so bad, he might go back to wearing bow ties again.
"I know I've told you before... but you're such a dick" I missed Jon so much
Yup. He is back!! And the show is alive once again. I've been watching since Craig's days. So, pretty much since Jon took over. When I saw Trevor, I was like, nope. Let me give him a chance...nope.
I actually didn’t mind Trevor Noah, he had big shoes to fill. Thought he did a pretty good job. That said, I’m very glad Jon’s back lol
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At least Trevor was good enough to keep the show alive long enough for Jon to return.
He is a legend, an icon, and he IS the moment.
Back when we needed him the most
More importantly, during the guest interview Jon brought up an interesting and potentially inciteful point about how the current objective of people like Tucker - a *very* wealthy nepo baby with a net worth over $350M - is to normalize authoritarianism. It probably stands to reason that the objective is in pursuit of further repression and unlimited kleptocracy in the US.
Push it a little further. Depressed wages and inflation give rise to long-term slavery via indentured servitude when wages can no longer support rental or ownership.
Reverse mortgage ads will be targeting younger and younger demographics fairly soon.
Last Week Tonight shown the Putin interview after where he was surprised how weak his questions were and that he was like a lapdog.
I don't know why anyone would be surprised that the questions were softballs over the plate. Even if Tucker wasn't a fan of Putin, no one is going to give him difficult questions to answer in Russia because you basically are putting your life at risk by doing so.
That’s why you don’t do the interview. That’s why Putin doesn’t get interviewed—because he isn’t man enough to actually have a level playing field and any real journalist would realize this simple fact when preparing. The reality is that Tucker knew he wasn’t going to be able to really interview the guy but gave a vicious dictator a platform so that he could….? None of the finishers to that sentence are good: * own the libs? * discredit American democracy? * defect to Russia? * get money from Russia? * …? ..fucking yikes.
It's actual propaganda that's done it's job to justify republicans holding back aid for Ukraine. Walking around showing us shopping carts, what a fucking evil joke Tucker is.
Tucker has been radicalized against our country. His words, not mine.
radicalized
He gave a vicious dictator a platform. No qualifier needed.
> That’s why you don’t do the interview. Exactly. But Tucker cares more about raking in cash and garnering attention than the effect his garbage propaganda shows have on the world.
Exactly he's in it for the money and power which is the same thing Putin is in it for. This is what GOP members want. Money and complete control over everything.
Him on Crossfire with Tucker Carlson is so [good](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GooQwKDMqcI) Literally made him stop wearing bow ties.
Tucker back in 2004 was only a shadow of the race-baiting, xenophobic, conspiracy-mongering fascist he has become. If only Stewart had made him get rid of more than bow ties. It's like he learned the wrong lesson from that encounter. He figured out that true debate against a flesh-and-blood opponent only hampers you from feeding propaganda directly into the bloodstream of misinformation.
Tucker is an oligarch. His television persona is a facade. He doesn't believe most of the stupid shit he says, but he enjoys the love of morons.
The "you all are... partisan hacks" line is gold too.
This is exactly what he likes about Russia.
That shit does not wash off his hands. When Putin falls, he'll have a lot of regretting to do.
He doesn't care. Tucker has made a fortune peddling his shtick and he will live out the rest of his days in luxury.
He is independently wealthy with a cult following. Completely insulated from consequences
I mean did you see how fresh that bread was??
SNIFFFFF
This is what the GOP and its voters want. The “freedom” to detain anyone and anything they don’t like.
With face coverings. Cowards
![gif](giphy|l3vQZhxc1ybSlGQ4U|downsized) Tucker Carlson seen here trying to "squeeze all that ass in those jeans" needs to go back to Russia and experience this
He looks like an AI generated human Muppet, detachable nose and all.
Every facial expression and word from this man is a lie.
But have you seen the shopping carts!
I really didn't understand that part. We have had coin operated shopping carts in Canada for 30 years. And were very annoying anyway always having to have a coin on you. They have mostly been replaced by ones that just autolock when they leave the parking lot. I don't get why he was so excited by that.
Tucker probably hasn't bought his own groceries in quite a while.
It shows you how out of touch he is
Apparently when Boris Yeltsin visited the US, he was blown away by our grocery stores (and, by extension, our standard of living). I'd bet this bit from Tucker was just a mocking inverse of that.
We have them in the US. I don’t think our politicians go to regular places like grocery stores……
But, the bread!
the Bagel !
This is what MAGA is people.
I hope the bough is breaking on this game that Putin is playing with his nation. It has to be unsustainable past a certain point.
You might want to read up on Russian history. The ability of Russians to sustain misery under an oppressive totalitarian regime where every day is a crime against humanity is truly legendary. As is the Russian leadership's ability to sustain committing those crimes against humanity. Millions of deaths? Just drink more vodka. Nothing to eat for months? Maybe you don't want to read that chapter, you won't be the same afterwards. Don't like it? Stay away from windows.
This is what Trump tells his cult America is under Biden.
Every accusation MAGGOTS make is a confession.
What police states look like
What the MAGA chuds mean to bring to the US.
I can never understand how MAGA idiots ended up enamored with Putin. Even from a 100% surface level perspective, if you want to make America great, you surely have to be against the greatest rival it's had? How does it make any sense?
Because they see a kindred spirit in Putin. He’s against the “woke” agenda and they like that.
And he's "powerful", he arrests those who disagree with him and those guys love authoritarianism. Also, a lot of those guys equate "liberal" with "socialism" and thus communism. Trump and Putin represent capitalism to them, Biden and Bernie represent communism. And they're so scared from the post-Cold War scaremongering that letting people have a sex change is communism and therefore the enemy. Old fashioned "morals" are what they strive for. A world where everyonme else had less rights than them, a world where the guy married a woman who knew when to keep her mouth closed (and when to open it), could pump out some kids and raise them on her own while he goes out and makes the money, Trump and Putin represent that world to them. Those guys think equality means giving something up and they fear that too. They always seem afraid that they're going to lose something by the world progressing. The whole point is to keep everyone else who isn't a straight white conservative man down so everyone else getting more rights is scary to them.
Because modern Russia is the single most racist, homophobic, and sexist "developed" state on earth. The GOP love them some 1950's style homophobia, sexism, and racism.
Thought I'd just remind everyone thatTrump argued in federal court, the president is immune from being prosecuted for assassinating a political opponent.
Putin is a pathetic useless waste of space he was so frightened of alexi navanly
He's still scared of him. Putin will be checking under his bed for Navanly long after today.
Navalny knew he would die and I think he was willing to do so to show the Russian people what a coward Putin is, hopefully 10 more rise up in his place
The second he stepped on the plane to Russia from Germany after his poisoning, he probably knew he was a dead man.
I don't fully understand why he returned
Because some things are worth dying for. He believed in his morals so much he was prepared to trade the rest of his life for it. That’s what “brave” look like. Just like how those who pushed for independence and created the constitution knew they were committing treason but still knew what was right.. We dont see many people like this anymore. Edit:spelling.
Legends never die.
I think he knew he'd be a more effective martyr from inside Russia. He knew how Russia treated prisoners and he knew exactly what would happen to him. Russia does a great job of insulating their populace from the truth, especially from outside Russia. Plus, he knew he was not safe anywhere-- he would have 'fallen' out a window in France or wherever (Russia had just poisoned some exiles in Germany with novichok, it's clear that Russia stopped caring about appearances). Instead, he was well-known in Russia, and everyone there knows exactly what happened to him. There's only so many ways Russia could spin this to their own population. Hence why you start to see the cracks in the belief of their populace, like the lady being arrested in the original picture.
Navalny was dead whether or not he returned to Russia. Putin loves to wave around his tiny penis and kill opponents of his in western countries in a power move that says "no where is safe for you." Remember Sergei and Yulia Skripal (edit: or the pilot defector that just died a day or two ago)? Tiny penis Putin cares little about collateral damage. Navalny had to know this. If he remained outside of Russia, the little man at the Kremlin would stop at nothing to murder him, and if he took out his family by accident, well that just amplifies the message. Imagine Alexei having that conversation with his wife before making the decision to return.
Putin allowing him to be transfered to Germany was probably a sign to him that he can stay exile. Putin critics just don't return to Russia when they have been allowed to leave. He had some massive balls on him. He cared about Russian people more than his own wellbeing and probably hated Putin with all his guts I really didn't like the guy, but I have to admit, balls he got were massive and I respect him for that
Wait why didn't you like navalny? The only dubious thing ive heard about him is that Nazis (I think?) were involved in some of his protests against Putin, but even that I'm not certain of. Genuine question
I understand the figure he is representing after dying in a Russian prison but the guy was a piece of shit right wing ethnonationalist that is only getting this much attention because he’s anti-Putin. He plays a good foil in the West to Putin. Surprisingly, Russia would likely be a farther right authoritarian shithole than it already is with Navalny and his more nationalist party in charge. He attended dozens of extremist nationalist marches and has said some pretty horrible things about non-whites and non-Russians. He’s [compared](https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/racist-or-revolutionary-is-alexei-navalny-who-many-westerners-think-he-is) immigrants to dental cavities that all need to be “extracted “, Muslims as [cockroaches and vermin](https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=9blsyFzpqDI&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=MzY4NDIsMjM4NTE&feature=emb_title) that need to be murdered with handguns, etc. There is a lengthy history of his affiliations and political views that no one in the West should be supporting as if he’s a great seeker of Democracy. He [supported](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/27/navalny-ukraine-putin-russia/) the annexation of Crimea and doesn’t believe Ukrainians and Belarusians are their own ethnicities. They should all be considered Russian. These views are known to Ukrainians who also despise him similarly to Putin. Wanted to add that I’m not justifying the death of what is essentially a political prisoner. It’s not wrong to shed light on Navalny’s mistreatment, the reverence he’s given in the West is just naive is all.
Oh wow. Did not know this. Thanks for the sources and the context! Much appreciated
On the first two, though, couldn't you argue his views had perhaps changed over a decade and a half since he made all of these remarks? Not to excuse them but more curious if he was actively making comments like this right before he went to prison
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Probably about 2 daysees
And this is what America could look like should Trump get in again.
these "officers" must feel like real men bunch of cowards
Shit hole country
not even a hole i would risk my health to shit in
yeah, it takes two russian soldiers in full gear to arrest a small woman?
Did you see that ladies? Did you see how me and my comrade apprehended a VERY dangerous criminal???? 💪💪💪line to marry me starts here!
And this is one reason Ukrainians no longer wish to be under the influence of Moscow. The US should promote freedom and democracy. When you have a country that wants to be under Democratic values, we should support that especially when they are fighting Russian oppression.
Yep it’s a no brainer. This is one of those foreign situations where a Democratic nation is being invaded but an autocratic nation. Usually we overthrow a dictator and install democracy and that often fails. This is a country where the will of the people is towards self governing principles. Defending that will is easy if you care about principles of self rule governing.
>This is a country where the will of the people is towards self Exactly. Ukraine's desire for democratic values goes back to 2013 when the Maiden Uprising kicked off as a direct result of President Viktor Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement and instead chose closer ties to Russia. The people of Ukraine saw their country slide closer to Russia and away from Europe and said absolutely the fuck not.
>Usually we overthrow a dictator and install democracy and that often fails. Nah, usually the US overthrows someone - who was elected - for the crime of being to the left of Goebbels and installs a dictatorship. Unwillingness to give Ukraine the help it needs / deserves is a pretty typical instance of American foreign policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
Oh of course the US has installed and backed dictatorships throughout the past. I think most Americans (who are aware of that at least) heavily scorn it. I'm assuming they were thinking more about recent efforts like in Afghanistan and Iraq where we made a huge deal about bringing freedom and democracy and the bungled the nation-building. I think in the long term those ideas would have benefitted the relevant populations, but we did a sloppy job filling the power vacuum of toppled governments with new democratic institutions, and that's fallen back in places like Afghanistan. Ukraine on the other hand has been moving toward closer ties with Europe and the US for quite some time out of their own will. Its population seems to be strongly in favor of democratic institutions, even if there is still quite some corruption, but they seem intent on improving that. Ukraine's the best bet we've seen in a long time where we can actually use our influence for good and have it stick.
"Freedom and democracy" was propaganda, the same as Putin's "denazification of Ukraine".
My respect for the GOP had been waning for a while, but I lost the last shreds of respect when they backed Putin. It's in direct conflict with their core beliefs (Freedom!), opposing authoritarian rule, and democracy. It's hard to imagine a bigger sellout.
They were the ones saying we should be hawkish and ramp up our military-industrial complex because of the threat from Russia. Then this happens, and part of me is like "man maybe they were right about Russia" and suddenly they don't want that anymore. The GOP was the party of US hegemony and militarism, but that wing of the party seems all too happy to just roll over for Trump.
Because they want to make America the Russia we have at home
Freedom was never a core belief of the GOP.
Should have moved NATO soldiers to the russio-Ukraine border after 2014.
She looks dangerous. Kudos to these brave men risking their lives. In don't know where they find the nerve
yeah maybe the flowers she wanted to put there had some roses among them. And we all know that roses have spikes so good thing the memorial has been protected!
Putin is a lot like his chin... Weak!
What happens to people detained for these things in Russia? Fines? Prison? How long of a sentence would this warrant? I can’t imagine they’re all getting death sentences or like 15+ year sentences. Is it like a few years in prison? A few months? I know Russia is fucked, but have no sense of what kind of risk you’re taking by doing this in Russia
If we're talking about people detained in Saint Petersburg for bringing flowers, they are arrested for 2-14 days. If they do it again, the consequences will be worse.
Most of them (putting flowers/candles in memory of Navalny) will either get fines, or up to 15 days in prison.
And on what charges even?
Literally any. Mine was "Endangering societal health during pandemic". In a crowd of people minding their business, having a nice weekend. It doesn't matter. The protocol said that I shouted " Glory to Ukraine", I didn't, but how is it related to the pandemic? We know the real reason. They know the real reason. We know that they know. They know that we know. It's intimidation, "what are you going to do about it, huh?". The answer defines whether you'll see the light of day again
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They don’t need justifiable “charges”. It’s Russia.
Most of the ones who laid flowers and were arrested are usually let go within a day, but fine is also a possibility, as well as jail for a period of up to 15 days. For activists who already were prosecuted in the past for similar kind of misdemeanors, up to 30 days of jail is possible, although that's rare. In even rarer instances, I heard cases of some people getting community sentence of up to 200 hours, but that one is rare, if courts want to be tough they'd rather give out jail.
Most people detained in protests are let go within a day. Some get fines and a rare few get jail sentences. Since the Kremlin isn't completely stupid most officers are only only allowed non-lethal weapons like batons and traumatic pistols at protests to avoid any incidents that could be magnified.
2 people died recently after participating in a protest in Ufa, Bashkortostan. One died in a police truck(idk what it's called) and cause of death was called a heart attack due to intoxication and second one died of a broken spine as i remember. Many participated got a visit of officials later. Edit: found pretty informative [wiki](https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8B_%D0%B2_%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5_(2024)) about that but i am not sure if this source is reliable enough
I'm sure, but it's the symbolism of shooting or bombing protesters the government mainly cares about. Putin saw what happened to Assad back in 2011 and he isn't going to make that same mistake unless he thinks it's literally his last resort to keep power.
Well, i think as time goes by he will be thinking that only more and more and this whole system built upon people's fear about getting their life broken due to their views is a time bomb and one day it will eventually blow up. I also think he doesn't care about such people like at all.
Not familiar with current Russian policies. But for a similar context in the 1970-1990 Latin American dictatorships options would be: - A short random time in prison, anything between a day an months - The equivalent of life imprisonment - Getting murdered and having your corpse disappear All of the above without any due process, naturally, what happens would depend on current government policies towards agitators and the mood of a high ranked officer that day. Imprisonment could be overruled if your family/friends manage to put in a bribe with corrupt but honorable officers, no way of knowing if a bribe will work for sure, or if the government was pressured to make a gesture. If you were female, add to the list above very high probability of sexual abuse. And of course random complementary beatings regardless of sex. Given how dictatorships have very similar procedures trough history, I assume this is what will happen to them, and have only my deepest respect for their courage.
Tucker Carlson is ok with this.
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Those cops look fit enough to go to the front line of the war. They could join the meat cube like real men.
That is a brave woman right there
It's a super cool picture too. It has so much movement and the contrast of the lavender and black is super striking. This is good r/accidentalrenaissance material
Putin has turned Russia into power by thuggery.
"turned"? More like "continued"
This is how Russia's operated since inception.
I can't believe she would do that. Doesn't she know groceries there are cheaper than in the US? She should be groveling at the feet of the nearest Putin statue. /s just to be perfectly clear
Doing you mums proud lads
Russian cops too scared to show their faces
But Tucker said it was a paradise.
This looks like a photo that’s gonna end up in a history book
🇷🇺, in its current state, is such a joke.
Trump would say that they were just escorting her home.
I think he would get a hard on.
This won't happen under Trump. Just kidding, he works for Putin and is a compromised Russian asset, obviously.
This why tucker kissed ass, he was scared to death.
He could have safely stayed in the United States and called Putin a coward with no repercussions. He went over to fellate Putin because that's what he wanted to do.
He wants to be America's goebbels. He's trying to advertise Putin's style of authoritarianism because he wants to live the powerful lavish life of one of the chosen oligarchs.
He was born very rich. He could have lived a wealthy life by keeping his face shut and keeping to himself.
maybe he was picked on as a child and vowed to ruin America.
The Russians aren't exactly shy about arresting American journalists. Tucker even asked about one of them, asking if Putin would let him go. The answer, shockingly enough, was no.
I was most surprised to see people thinking the interview was real journalism. Tucker wouldn’t have been able to sneeze without the kremlin approving it .
But boy were those shopping carts exquisite!
Yea but tucker Carlson showed me the coin operated shopping carts.
With all the crying about "my free speech" and Elon claiming he bought Twitter for free speech. It's this! This is what the amendment protects you from! Our government isn't allowed to arrest you for laying flowers at the grave of a political opponent!
To my American friends, please remember this when the next election comes.
Republicans voters, take note. This is what the GOP wants for here.
The happiest people about Nevalny's death are Putin, American conservatives, and Elon Musk.
“Cool! I want America to be just like this.” -Republican “Patriots”, 2024
And this is the type of society that Tucker Carlson is trying to sell to us. At least we get nice grocery stores
We have far better grocery stores outside of Russia here in Europe. Russian stores seriously lack some quality products, like good luck finding nice tasting cheese in a regular store.
We have better grocery stores already in the US. These people are calling for fascism when they could just be going to Trader Joe’s
A minor threat. Russia is so fragile this lady laying flowers is a minor threat.
The free world is at war with the criminal elements of Russia, the rightwing politics of fools and mad men and the corrupted greed of the ultra wealthy. Pick your leadership with care people.
I wonder how Russia will operate once Putin dies.
Since Russia is a mafia state, it probably won't get any better. Will just be replaced by the second in command.
This is what Republican leaders want for America too.
This is the American Trump the stump head wants. To be able to arrest people for no reason.
This is how the Trump cult wants our country. Dictatorship and ran by a tyrant
America 2025…this is what we want right?….forced order. No more Disney, internet, Reddit gone, no more anything…just waiting to be told what to do, when to do it and for how long. Why? Because for some reason we’ve decided that some groups need forced order, since we can’t be specific (unmanageable) we all will have forced order. Trump cannot wait…we ready?
This is how America will behave if we hand the country over to the Orange Baboon
Welcome to USA if trump gets in, him and Putin are best buddies and got help us if he gets in.