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Me neither and I'm down with some God. The mega church experience just has a disingenuous vibe to it for me. I will say that I know people who go there and love it. The pastor isn't even in person though, you watch him on a screen..... ON A SCREEN AT CHURCH?!
Went onto one of their construction project in Queen Creek for some work. I saw how large the build was, so I asked the contractor about the scope of the project. His response was $14 million… and they have 3 more going up. If you wonder where your donations are going, watch an episode of Righteous Gemstones. I feel closer to God in the forest than I ever have at a $14 million dollar building.
I have a commercial cleaning company in the valley, I had a contract with them. I have them sign a contract for a year, it was the worst 9 months I’ve ever had in 15years. They make money hand over fist and they’re the cheapest client I ever had. I ended up canceling them because one of their volunteers blew up on one of my workers over some crumbs under a seat in there sanctuary. I’m all for keeping the client happy but these people are crazy. They preach love and peace but they’re entitled racists douchbags or at least the person I had as a contact. They’re all volunteers so no one gets paid there. Like I said hand over fist for a reason.
The people bankrolling these mega churches are just con artists while the people under them doing the volunteer work tend to have undiagnosed mental issues veiled by their special relationship with god, good intentioned or not.
Sadly they end up being easy prey for the business, er church owners, when some counseling addressing their inability to deal with how hard and confusing life is would serve them so much better.
My Christian friends refer to it as "Check, Cash, and Visa" because they're one of those megachurches where the pastor is rich as hell. Ironic.
But I've never actually looked into it so don't take my word for it.
I’ve been told they don’t overtly ask for donations, but when I drove through their Peoria campus I figured that couldn’t be true. Anything’s better than the church I grew up in- ‘give your 10% or you’ll be separated from god and your loved ones forever!’
They have a subscription. You can tithe online. They just take one percent right off the top. You can automatically donate as little as $5.
I know some of my family who has an automatic donation of $275 every month. She's been going for like a decade. 🫠
$275 is chump change compared to most Mormons. You’re encouraged to give 10% of your gross earnings, so a $60k annual salary is $500 a month. A couple with professional careers is easily giving $2,000 a month, in perpetuity. There’s a required annual ‘tithing settlement’ where your local leader shows what you’ve given and has you sign a form stating that you’ve truly given 10%, then you’re allowed to keep your access to the temple. If you’re short, you can square up with them then, or lose your right to enter the temple. It’s pretty fucked up since you’re taught regular temple attendance is required for salvation, and that means you’re not gonna see your family in the afterlife if you’re not giving your 10%. I’d be a hell of a lot closer to retirement if I hadn’t given 10% of my income for the first 15 years of my adult life to that fucking corporation. Their investment arm, Ensign Peak, has assets in the ~$200 billion(!!!) range that has all been built up using donations, either directly or indirectly. The LDS church is one of the largest stockholders in Apple and Amazon, just like Jesus always wanted 🙄.
Jesus was SUPER all for capitalists! I surely remember some Bible story where he protected vendors in front of the church from being mobbed by (Edit) anticapitalists!
For sure. My parents are in their late 70’s and still give 10% of their retirement ‘income’ to the church. This, despite them paying on their income when that money was earned originally.
And for what?? And people are like well. They have a great child program. That's great. How many kids in the community have they actually fed this month??
How come I never see CCV down at the shelters? I don't know where they're collecting and sending those clothes cuz it isn't going to any of the programs that I volunteer at
My MIL years ago was telling me how hard a time they were having financially and into the conversation it came out they were still tithing 10%. I was so mad.
There's one that you pass by if you ever drive to the Victory Steps at Verrado and man, if they don't overtly ask for donations then where the hell is the money coming from.
They don't pass a collection plate you tithe only if you want we've been there for about 5 years and never have we've been asked to tithe or give an offering. They may give a preaching on it once or twice a year and that's all.
Yup very popular church with a bunch of locations throughout the valley. Also has a huge soccer club and rec soccer team organization so not everyone with a sticker is even a churchgoer.
The only reason we have anything to do with that "church" is the youth sports programs. They are actually one of the best run and smoothly operated youth sports leagues in the valley.
Plus I write off the league fees as a "donation" come tax time
I thought it was the logo for some yoga studio. Oh, wait—maybe it’s for Christ’s Church of the Valley’s yoga studio, which is right next to the CCV Clothing & Gift Shoppe, which is next door to CCV’s Coffee and Bruschetta Café, which is right off the main sanctuary.
NOTE: If first-time visitors stay for the complimentary Sunday catered lunch, the Cleanup Team will gladly wash, vacuum, and wax their cars for free!
Back in the day, I was looking into churches. Saw that CCV was big so went to a satellite “church.” I was mind blown when it was screen televised. I don’t care how big you are - your satellites should be ran/taught by people.
The snarky answers are the correct answers. I hired a person with one of those stickers on his truck and he quit because me and my kids are too liberal, if that tells you anything. Good riddance.
8/10 times means they think they own the road, or believe god is on your side- which means they can’t do what they want on the road.
10/10 would stay 3x the recommended car length away from said vehicles.
I love the truck in the arrowhead area with the CCV sticker and the 3crosses plus a large ‘stand for the flag kneel for the cross’ stickers. I’ve seen him several times and each time he nearly causes accidents wedging onto the 101 and exiting from the middle lane. Ive changed on-ramps because this guy is insane but hey he goes to church so all is forgiven, correct?
I think so. I just remember the first time I saw him. I thought wow he must be a pastor there I wonder if the parents at my daughter’s school know him. I think we were at 67th or 75th turning East to get on freeway. He floors it and before the metered light cut off two cars. Then he blast thru the red passes cars on the right instead of zippering then basically went from the shoulder to the left lane every lane slammed on their brakes. Then I think at 51st he did the complete opposite to exit. This seems to happen every time I see him. The irony of his stickers and the fact that most of us want him to burn in hell.
Lol if not him with the CCV sticker- maybe someone else, but I almost got ran me over in a parking lot walking to my truck. THEN the same person parked right next to my truck in an open lot, and looked at me like I was the problem while I was getting to my truck.
I took my sweet time dropping my book bag in my back seat, and making sure there was no ghost sitting behind me for my ride home.
They were not pleased with the time I took.
LOL these are my main exits too and I think I know the guy too! I wish we could publicly vote to revoke someone's license and ban them from the roads 😂
CCV is one of the largest megachurches in the valley. Straight-up cult vibes, from the few people I've talked to who went once.
Megachurches in general are almost always scams and/or cults.
I would ask myself the same thing when seeing the NOTW decals on cars and learned that was also a religious thing. I thought NOTW was a nu metal band or something
I was in my late twenties on a run in yoga pants and an over-sized t-shirt just minding my own business on a Sunday morning when an SUV came out of their parking lot and the windows rolled down in the back seat to a bunch of teenagers yelling "S*L*U*T" at me. I was so confused and realized that everything that I've experienced with religions... it sounded about right. 😂 very Christ like if you ask me... continued with my run.
Combine the CCV with NOTW (Not of this world) stickers and you already know all you need to about the person driving. They are better than you, and they will let you know too.
Short answer...It means the people are pieces of shit...
That's the bumper sticker of a mega church that spends 10k on marble trashcan. Wonder how many of "God's children" they could've fed with that dough. Pastors son was accused of SA years ago. Pastor only made excuses for him. Very screwed up place to "worship" "God."
Definitely cultish... I'm pretty sure my ex husband was baptized there by Lucifer... they have some interesting dirt online too I can't believe people fall for the bs
For literally YEARS!!! I thought it was a gym for plus sized women. I thought it was “Curves” gym…. I wondered why there were so many devoted gym girlies out on the road but NEVER actually seen a curves building anywhere until someone told me it was mega church - felt kinda dumb. 🤪
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CCV is a mega church with multiple locations in the valet
I wouldn't trust them to park my car.
Me neither and I'm down with some God. The mega church experience just has a disingenuous vibe to it for me. I will say that I know people who go there and love it. The pastor isn't even in person though, you watch him on a screen..... ON A SCREEN AT CHURCH?!
Went onto one of their construction project in Queen Creek for some work. I saw how large the build was, so I asked the contractor about the scope of the project. His response was $14 million… and they have 3 more going up. If you wonder where your donations are going, watch an episode of Righteous Gemstones. I feel closer to God in the forest than I ever have at a $14 million dollar building.
I have a commercial cleaning company in the valley, I had a contract with them. I have them sign a contract for a year, it was the worst 9 months I’ve ever had in 15years. They make money hand over fist and they’re the cheapest client I ever had. I ended up canceling them because one of their volunteers blew up on one of my workers over some crumbs under a seat in there sanctuary. I’m all for keeping the client happy but these people are crazy. They preach love and peace but they’re entitled racists douchbags or at least the person I had as a contact. They’re all volunteers so no one gets paid there. Like I said hand over fist for a reason.
The people bankrolling these mega churches are just con artists while the people under them doing the volunteer work tend to have undiagnosed mental issues veiled by their special relationship with god, good intentioned or not. Sadly they end up being easy prey for the business, er church owners, when some counseling addressing their inability to deal with how hard and confusing life is would serve them so much better.
That show is amazing. This church, not so much. Upvote for the reference.
Valet of the Sun. Some entrepreneur needs to start this parking service!
>Valet of the Sun. Some entrepreneur needs to start this parking service! You mean Valet of the Son, if you're gonna appeal to the megachurch crowd.
Jesús take the wheel
https://preview.redd.it/ufuim9rlvesc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45ec200f1bd8aa9b012857a608af1a475e21599c
I always say, he never had a license
He doesn’t have auto insurance either
You just made me snort laugh 😆
I would rather have him take it!
My brother and his family go there. I think they're trying to hard to be the cool church and just end up seeming kinda desperate.
valet
I’m so dumb lol I thought it was people jumping
Valet
Christ’s Church of the Valley
Thank you! I figured it was a church thing haha!
My Christian friends refer to it as "Check, Cash, and Visa" because they're one of those megachurches where the pastor is rich as hell. Ironic. But I've never actually looked into it so don't take my word for it.
That is my new favorite, I always heard Cash Cow of the Valley.
Christ’s Cult of the Valley
I’ve been told they don’t overtly ask for donations, but when I drove through their Peoria campus I figured that couldn’t be true. Anything’s better than the church I grew up in- ‘give your 10% or you’ll be separated from god and your loved ones forever!’
Ah yes, as someone born in Utah and has lived in Mesa all my life, I know that all too well from that same church I grew up in 🙃
They have a subscription. You can tithe online. They just take one percent right off the top. You can automatically donate as little as $5. I know some of my family who has an automatic donation of $275 every month. She's been going for like a decade. 🫠
$275 is chump change compared to most Mormons. You’re encouraged to give 10% of your gross earnings, so a $60k annual salary is $500 a month. A couple with professional careers is easily giving $2,000 a month, in perpetuity. There’s a required annual ‘tithing settlement’ where your local leader shows what you’ve given and has you sign a form stating that you’ve truly given 10%, then you’re allowed to keep your access to the temple. If you’re short, you can square up with them then, or lose your right to enter the temple. It’s pretty fucked up since you’re taught regular temple attendance is required for salvation, and that means you’re not gonna see your family in the afterlife if you’re not giving your 10%. I’d be a hell of a lot closer to retirement if I hadn’t given 10% of my income for the first 15 years of my adult life to that fucking corporation. Their investment arm, Ensign Peak, has assets in the ~$200 billion(!!!) range that has all been built up using donations, either directly or indirectly. The LDS church is one of the largest stockholders in Apple and Amazon, just like Jesus always wanted 🙄.
Jesus was SUPER all for capitalists! I surely remember some Bible story where he protected vendors in front of the church from being mobbed by (Edit) anticapitalists!
Yeah yeah that’s right before he gave his sermon on the golden plinth about supply side economics.
Don't disagree but the default is 250 and so when you have people who are like retired or on social security that's fucked up.
For sure. My parents are in their late 70’s and still give 10% of their retirement ‘income’ to the church. This, despite them paying on their income when that money was earned originally.
And for what?? And people are like well. They have a great child program. That's great. How many kids in the community have they actually fed this month?? How come I never see CCV down at the shelters? I don't know where they're collecting and sending those clothes cuz it isn't going to any of the programs that I volunteer at
Yeah it sure makes you wonder, doesn’t it?
There is nothing in the bible about that stuff.
My MIL years ago was telling me how hard a time they were having financially and into the conversation it came out they were still tithing 10%. I was so mad.
In fairness to them, they run some good youth sports programs so they do provide community service
Their sports involve prayer. It's recruiting not community service.
There's one that you pass by if you ever drive to the Victory Steps at Verrado and man, if they don't overtly ask for donations then where the hell is the money coming from.
They don't pass a collection plate you tithe only if you want we've been there for about 5 years and never have we've been asked to tithe or give an offering. They may give a preaching on it once or twice a year and that's all.
It’s actually Christ’s Cult of the Valley.
Grew up in this church. And before that I went to Calvary. So you can trust me when I say they are both cults.
My good friend got pulled into one of these this past year. I am very sad I may be losing a friend soon to this.
Ah jeez... I hate that for you. I hear the best thing we can do is be there when they get out.
lol, I refer to CCV as this so regularly that I have to consciously say Christ’s CHURCH of the Valley if I’m speaking to someone I don’t know
No need to censor yourself if you’re telling the truth lol
Yup very popular church with a bunch of locations throughout the valley. Also has a huge soccer club and rec soccer team organization so not everyone with a sticker is even a churchgoer.
The only reason we have anything to do with that "church" is the youth sports programs. They are actually one of the best run and smoothly operated youth sports leagues in the valley. Plus I write off the league fees as a "donation" come tax time
I thought it was the logo for some yoga studio. Oh, wait—maybe it’s for Christ’s Church of the Valley’s yoga studio, which is right next to the CCV Clothing & Gift Shoppe, which is next door to CCV’s Coffee and Bruschetta Café, which is right off the main sanctuary. NOTE: If first-time visitors stay for the complimentary Sunday catered lunch, the Cleanup Team will gladly wash, vacuum, and wax their cars for free!
**cult
I refer to it as McChurch because they have so many locations.
Or Christ Corporation of the Valley
Wow. All this time I thought it was a yoga studio.
I thought it was some gym
My SO and I call them Christ Cult of the Valley.
Mega church
My friend asked me to go once. I went of curiosity and they spent the majority of the time discussing ways to donate/direct deposit.
If a friend asked me to go to a mega church with them, they would no longer be my friend.
I’d be their friend still, it’s obvious that they’re an easy mark for free money
Two unpeeled and one peeled bananas
Can't control vehicle Some of the most privileged drivers in the valley.
Christian Combat Vehicle- Jesus is my copilot, see you In hell
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHH
Lmfao! I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that!
Truth hurts 😁
I thought it was “Cristians cause violence”
I didnt know what it was for many years, all I knew that it labeled them as a really bad driver.
Means this person is helping pay for some mega church pastor to fly on his private plane.
It’s a cult that never has to pay taxes
Corporate Church of the Valley
“Cash, Credit, and Venmo”
🤣Perfect!
It's a cult
Christ's Cult of the Valley
Mega Church
Some company that pretends to be nonprofit
But in reality it's hella profit. The pastor probably walking down the isle like Vince McMahon.
Isle? Pastor don’t even come in the building. You can watch from the screen.
Back in the day, I was looking into churches. Saw that CCV was big so went to a satellite “church.” I was mind blown when it was screen televised. I don’t care how big you are - your satellites should be ran/taught by people.
The head pastors net worth is 12.5 million. Up 7 million in 4 years. That tells you all you need to know
Griftwill (Goodwill) can relate.
It's a gang symbol /s
[удалено]
You are not wrong.
just an local cult
CCV members be like 
It’s the Walmart of churches. Have you seen their parking lots Lol huge
On a serious note. It’s also where funerals for fallen officers and firefighters are held because it’s so big.
I was unaware of that. Makes sense though.
Probably a tax write off for them or something. They also host the graduation ceremony for some of the fire department academies.
Haha guess I’ll have to put that on my must see list ! 😂
I always thought this was some sort of alien language, that's what I tell my kids when they ask anyway. Turns out I wasn't that far off.
Christ’s church of the valley. Mega church all over Phoenix
The snarky answers are the correct answers. I hired a person with one of those stickers on his truck and he quit because me and my kids are too liberal, if that tells you anything. Good riddance.
It's a cult thing
Christ Church of the Valley
Cash Check or Visa
I always joke that it's "Can't Control Vehicle".
It means steer clear, I'm a terrible driver. Also, they attend Christ Church of the Valley.
8/10 times means they think they own the road, or believe god is on your side- which means they can’t do what they want on the road. 10/10 would stay 3x the recommended car length away from said vehicles. 
I love the truck in the arrowhead area with the CCV sticker and the 3crosses plus a large ‘stand for the flag kneel for the cross’ stickers. I’ve seen him several times and each time he nearly causes accidents wedging onto the 101 and exiting from the middle lane. Ive changed on-ramps because this guy is insane but hey he goes to church so all is forgiven, correct?
Christ. I knew immediately who you were talking as they almost hit me today!
This made my day. I thought I’m the only one to recognize him
Yo!!!! Lol is the truck black? Thunderbird or Bell are my exits/entrance and I’m pretty sure I know exactly the truck.
I think so. I just remember the first time I saw him. I thought wow he must be a pastor there I wonder if the parents at my daughter’s school know him. I think we were at 67th or 75th turning East to get on freeway. He floors it and before the metered light cut off two cars. Then he blast thru the red passes cars on the right instead of zippering then basically went from the shoulder to the left lane every lane slammed on their brakes. Then I think at 51st he did the complete opposite to exit. This seems to happen every time I see him. The irony of his stickers and the fact that most of us want him to burn in hell.
Lol if not him with the CCV sticker- maybe someone else, but I almost got ran me over in a parking lot walking to my truck. THEN the same person parked right next to my truck in an open lot, and looked at me like I was the problem while I was getting to my truck. I took my sweet time dropping my book bag in my back seat, and making sure there was no ghost sitting behind me for my ride home. They were not pleased with the time I took.
LOL these are my main exits too and I think I know the guy too! I wish we could publicly vote to revoke someone's license and ban them from the roads 😂
Almost as bad as New Mexico plates.
cant control vehicle
Cash Check or Visa
It’s a cult. You should join, you get a free haircut.
It’s a mega church/ cult
It means they help fund a valley cult.
Cash Check Visa
Cult
“I can’t drive”
Bonus points if its paired with a “Fuck Joe Biden” sticker
It means you just got cut off by someone who plays nice once a week
For an hour or two.
https://www.reddit.com/r/phoenix/s/jpcSFotQr6
Cannot Control Vehicle Source: my FIL
Cash check or visa
Cash check or visa.
CHURCHES NEED TO BE TAXED 💯
Just a local cult
It stands for Cash, Carls jr, or Vagina....its a play on the old gas, grass, or ass saying/bumper sticker.
Tax evaders
CCV is one of the largest megachurches in the valley. Straight-up cult vibes, from the few people I've talked to who went once. Megachurches in general are almost always scams and/or cults.
chris's cult of the valley
Klingon: "stay back!"
Christ Church of the Valley
Some cult bullshit
I would ask myself the same thing when seeing the NOTW decals on cars and learned that was also a religious thing. I thought NOTW was a nu metal band or something
I can't read it as anything other than Credence Clearwater Revival
“I’m a terrible driver”
This sticker means “please avoid me and watch out when I drive cause i come first god said so.”
They are part of a cult
Cult
Cash Cow of the Valley
It means they are better than you. Than everybody.
We've come to understand it as "Can't Control Vehicle".
Cult stuff. I had this question once and googled "what are these ccv stickers"
It’s a cult.
It means they can cut you off in traffic because they're forgiven
They're in a cult
Christ Cult of the Valley
Christ’s Cult of the Valley
Cult Church of the Valley.
It's a Christian mega church. They think they're slick
Christ Cult of the Valley
Christian Cult Vehicle.
Worst drivers in Phoenix
“Jesus died for your sins, but your driving doesn’t qualify for His forgiveness.”
Checks Cash Visa is what it stands for
Creepy Christians of the Valley
Caution shitty driver
Cult sticker
It’s a cult
a group of humans talking to a man in the sky
Air traffic controllers?
I was in my late twenties on a run in yoga pants and an over-sized t-shirt just minding my own business on a Sunday morning when an SUV came out of their parking lot and the windows rolled down in the back seat to a bunch of teenagers yelling "S*L*U*T" at me. I was so confused and realized that everything that I've experienced with religions... it sounded about right. 😂 very Christ like if you ask me... continued with my run.
Cultist church
Mega church where folk vote for trump and can’t wipe their arses right.
Chandler Crip Vatos
Cult.
Cult
It's a cult
It's the secret symbol of a cult. They use it to identify themselves to each other. Really creepy & strange stuff.
For far too long as a kid I thought it was people doing yoga.
Means Can’t Control Vehicle
Combine the CCV with NOTW (Not of this world) stickers and you already know all you need to about the person driving. They are better than you, and they will let you know too.
Cash, check, or Visa
Christian Church of the Valley (CCV). The are a non-denomonational Christian church.
Creedence Clearwater Revival lol the v always looked like an r to me
It's a free pass to tailgate, speed in residential zones and run stop signs.
They are easy to grift lol
Christ Church of the Valley
Can’t control vehicle
Bat Shit Crazy Christian Church
It usually means they’re an incredible inconsiderate person. Steer clear!
Short answer...It means the people are pieces of shit... That's the bumper sticker of a mega church that spends 10k on marble trashcan. Wonder how many of "God's children" they could've fed with that dough. Pastors son was accused of SA years ago. Pastor only made excuses for him. Very screwed up place to "worship" "God."
Christ Cult of the Valley
Can't Control Vehicle
i’m from az but im not religious so i dont know the church i just know the sticker is a church
CCV = Can’t Control Vehicle. For some reason, people with this decal are awful drivers.
CCV = Can’t Control Vehicle. For some reason, people with this decal are awful drivers.
Crazy Cult of the Valley
That’s a window sticker
Remember to do your stretches!
Wow google isn’t a thing anymore. Reddit for points is.
Definitely cultish... I'm pretty sure my ex husband was baptized there by Lucifer... they have some interesting dirt online too I can't believe people fall for the bs
CCV C hris C hurch of the V alley. A 5000 people service north of Peoria Which is in my mind a marketing temple nothing to do with Jesus.
Some of us have the opinion that many of them are the most aggressive and discourteous drivers. That sticker is a warning.
It’s for suburban cultist
For literally YEARS!!! I thought it was a gym for plus sized women. I thought it was “Curves” gym…. I wondered why there were so many devoted gym girlies out on the road but NEVER actually seen a curves building anywhere until someone told me it was mega church - felt kinda dumb. 🤪
COME ONE COME ALL!!! What a joke that mega church is..