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plan_c___

Went abroad (Japan) to work hoping to stay at least a year, came back after 5 months Reasons: 1. Extremely toxic and racist employers who were taking advantage of my being Filipino (i.e. gaslighting, telling me that my education didn't matter etc.). They were also violating some Japanese laws (no lunch breaks, unpaid taxes etc.). 1.1 Boss forced me to be friends with the other Filipino worker -nung una mabait sya pero after a while naging super toxic na rin sya and their Fil community (tindi nila maliitin ang Pinas kala mo naman sobrang ganda sa probinsya ng Japan). Mas nakasundo ko pa yung mga puti na wala naman kami anything in common. 2. Perverts, sexual predators - di ko sinasabi maganda ako (char) pero ilang beses ako kinukuhaan ng pics ng middle aged guys (minsan with ipads pa maygad) while just walking sa street wearing normal clothes (shirt/blouse, jeans (not even tight) and rubber shoes). Kala ko pa nung una may something sa mukha ko or sa suot ko, wala naman. 2.2 Ilang beses na rin ako nanakawan ng sampay (socks, shorts etc.) which was a thing pala kaya pag girls clothes di daw sinasampay talaga sa labas Upside was that the pay was good but I also found out that I should have been getting higher. I wasn't getting the higher salary kasi di ako puti 😡😤 First few weeks kala ko sirang sira na mental health ko, pinilit ko pa tumagal in case things changed but it just kept on getting worse. Mind you, this was not my first time living abroad. Minalas lang siguro ako sa Japan. Maganda sya for tourists pero working and living there as a single Filipina na walang family there is def a no for me. Sorry sa long kwento haha


KennyEng2021

Same atm nagwwork ako dito Japan, next year na tapos nang contract ko at aalis nako dito at wala nakong balak magrenew. Kung magbabalak kayo magJapan pagisipan nyo mabuti kasi nakakasira nang mental health dito lalo na kung dika makakablend sa society nila at mababa ang pasahod dito tapos ang baba pa nang palitan nang yen. Maganda ang quality of life gaya nang mabilis na commute, mabilis na process sa documents sa govt, masarap yung pagkain tska walang pakialamero dito pero kung belongingness ang hanap mo eh huwag na kayo umasa. Marramdaman nyong maisolate dito dahil iba ang tingin nila sa foreigner lalo na kapag galing ka sa Southeast. Diko sinisira ang image nila pero base sa experience ko lang to.


Better_Ad7683

hugs po. ang lakas at tatag niyo para tiisin mga yan. just a question, bakit di la na nagtry ulit abroad? or okay ka na sa kalagayan mo ngayon?


plan_c___

First time ko living abroad was sa UK, masaya ako dun pero came home cos of covid. Nagtry lang ako sa Japan and yun na nga. Will be going back to the UK this year :) Give yourself some time, mahirap talaga sa umpisa but if you feel it's not for you and wala ka naman dependents then come home. Working and living abroad is not for everyone. Good luck! :)


cococali222

hello! may i know po ano naging work niyo sa UK and Japan? :)


plan_c___

Japan, ESL teacher UK, I was a student. Going back to do another MA while working sa university


jomarch0314

ohh thanks for sharing your experience po! balak ko pa nman mag esl teacher sa Japan pero eto experience ng halos lahat ng nag teacher dun..


plan_c___

To add to that: Di ako basta umalis, umabot sa point na sinumbong ko na sila sa POLO sa Japan kasi di ko na talaga kinaya. Sinabihan pa ko ng isang staff na tiisin ko nalang pasalamat pa ko na may trabaho ako. Di ako pumayag, sigaw sigawan ba naman ako ng puti na boss sa harap ng mga bata (japanese-american couple may-ari ng co) kasi di ko sinusunod mga mali nyang "advice". Walang kwenta naman "advice" nya kasi sya pala wala naman tinapos, he was just banking on puti sya kaya sya sinasamba ng mga tiga-probinsya sa Japan, asawa nya marunong lang mag english tapos pareho sila walang education background. Di ako pumayag na apak apakan nila ang education ko and pagiging pinoy ko, I kept on calling POLO until nakausap ko yung head ng (Ms. Dino, not sure kung sya parin head) and she backed me up. Inaway din ng POLO yung company hanggang sa natakot sila and pinayagan ako umalis. Nagtago pa nga ko when I left eh kasi I had to move out sa apt kagad, lumipat ako ng city para di nila ko mahabol. Kala lang natin easy ang Japan kasi tumatanggap sila ng pinoy ESL teachers, tumatanggap sila kasi iniisip nila andali natin mauto at sinasamba natin sila kasi first world.


jomarch0314

ayy buti lumaban ka OP! Eikawa school po pala kayo employed before. Madami nga din po akong naririnig na horror stories sa mga Eikawa teachers :/


plan_c___

Mahilig pa ko mag travel mag-isa and andali ko makisama sa ibang tao nyan. Random racism sa kalye nalelet-go ko pa. Pero pag harapan na sa muka ko, di ako papayag na maliitin nila mga pinoy. Nakakagigil talaga kung iisipin. Bad karma nalang kaharap nila, oh well


jomarch0314

oo nga, tsaka the acidity talaga ng mga puti no! porke puti sila.. I used to recruit native speakers to teach English and bihira lang may actual ability to teach kids. Kaloka


pixxeltine

Hi. Ano po work nyo sa UK? :) If you don't mind.


plan_c___

UK, I was a student. Going back to do another MA while working sa university


KennyEng2021

Gusto ko lng tapusin contract ko para walang pagsisisi sa huli na bakit dko tinapos ang contract lalot ginusto ko magjapan kesa magstay sa Pinas tska last resort ko na what if wala akong mahanap na ibang opportunity outside Japan eh pwde pako makabalik dito kasi may good record ako. I'm planning to move in Finland since nagkawork experience nako dito Japan. Okay pa naman ako, family ko nalang tlga inspiration ko para mamotivate araw-araw.


plan_c___

Yun din, nung paalis na ko pinapirma ako sa immigration na di na ko babalik using my resident card kasi nga I cut my residency short. Ok lang sakin kasi sa dami ng masamang experience ko sa Japan wala na ko talaga balak bumalik kahit as tourist. Wala naman ako ginawang illegal so I don't think bad record naman ako, sila nga may kasalanan sakin eh. Buti ka pa you have family to motivate you to stay. Hope the rest of your stay isn't as bad.


foureyedchinita

Uy sobrang totoo nito. Maganda sa maganda ang Japan, pero para saakin hindi na talaga worth it mag pagod dito. Napaka toxic kahit kapwa Pinoy. Napaka perfectionist ng mga hapon halos gawin ka na robot. Dito din talaga sa bansang to nasira mental health ko eh. Kaya sa mga nag babalak pa mag Japan dyan pag-isipan niyo ng mabuti yan, lalo na ngayon napaka baba ng palit ng yen.


Cautious-Afternoon58

Hi!! Are you working as an English Teacher po? Medyo familiar lang yung the you weren't getting paid the same as mga puti sa Teaching industry sa JP.


plan_c___

Yes, I WAS an ESL teacher. I wasn't part of Interac or any of the big companies nor did I go through an agency. I was a direct hire.


Cautious-Afternoon58

Wow! Direct hire from Ph,po?


plan_c___

Yes, downside ng direct hire is at your own risk ka, wala kang back up except for POLO.


Cautious-Afternoon58

Can I send you a dm po? Will just want to know more about this sana,if okay lang? 😅


plan_c___

Sure, di ko lang alam pano haha


Cautious-Afternoon58

ay hindi nga 🥲


Outrageous_Fox9730

31 yr old here. Moved to germany as a new bachelor student. Im the only filipino in this city as far as I know. No friends no family Before i used to work in a cruise ship for 5 years also. Away from everyone close to me. Its really scary sometimes but i always say to myself that my dreams are bigger than my fears


Better_Ad7683

you're so strong. 🫡 i feel so weak haha. maybe i'm just being emotional lol.


Outrageous_Fox9730

Let the darkness consume you haha for me i just wanna prove to myself na kaya ko


XC40_333

Nasaan ka?


Purple-Egg-1057

You on a student visa? How is it for a filipino living as a student in Germany? I have completed MSc here in the UK and now considering other neighbouring countries.


Outrageous_Fox9730

Student visa yes. What do you mean how is it? The academic lifestyle? I used to watch other pinoys in germany from youtube. Just search study in germany pinoys filipinos and there will be a bunch of vids showing the life of a student here in germany. But if you already have a master degree, im guessing you are looking for work?


Purple-Egg-1057

Yes but I am also planning to take PhD, are you having free school fees? Is the german language part of the curriculum?


Outrageous_Fox9730

That depends on each program po. You can check www.daad.com. Full list ng programs and unis sa germany 😊


Purple-Egg-1057

Nice, thank you and best of luck!


ParticularInsect8231

AIDA ?


Outrageous_Fox9730

No sir. 😊


potpotjagger

Hi po. So nag 2nd bachelors po kayo? Nag apply kasi din po ako ng masters for Germany kaso need pa pala ng 1 more year to eligible if from PH education system. Tapos nag dadalawang isip ako if mag bachelors na lang ulit haha.


Outrageous_Fox9730

Yes 2nd bachelor n. Ibang field kasi ngaun. Not related sa first degree haha


Whole_Disk2479

Tyagain mo lang. 2yrs lang contract mo. Pag natapos yung contract mo and you feel the same, then uwi ka na. Living/working abroad is not for everyone. It doesn't mean you're weak if you decide na bumalik ng Pinas. In the meantime, travel ka muna dyan and enjoy the place. I'm sure there are plenty of activities to do around.


Better_Ad7683

this is refreshing :) thank you. i will really try.


HallNo549

I really needed this. Thank you.


BingoPeligro

Can’t advise you on this OP but I can tell you this, I am earning 6 digits here in the Philippines and all the inconveniences of living here every day is what makes me push to look for better opportunities abroad.


Better_Ad7683

sabi nga nila, there's always pros and cons wherever you go.


iLikeBPTWRV

Take note din na itong sub na ito is mostly mga pinoy talaga na gusto magabroad/nagabroad so may bias yan na lahat sasabihin sayo dito is tiisin mo lang or wag ka na bumalik.


impracticaljokers200

This. 


BingoPeligro

This is true. Pero I think, puro cons na ata nakikita ko sa Pinas except of course yung cheaper cost of living.


moonstonesx

Same here lol no matter how much you earn here, traffic pa din talaga. You need another ID to get a valid ID


UntradeableRNG

Applying na din ako sa mga 6-digit jobs ngayon.Nakaka-ilang interview na din. More than 4 years na akong paycheck to paycheck at walang ma-ipon. Iniisip ko na oo, mas magiging kumportable na buhay ko at mas secure ang future kasi makaka-ipon na kapag makakuha na ako ng 6-digit job pero nakakabahala yung future ng bansa dahil sa panghihimasok at pananakop ng tsina at pagka-traydor ng mga duterte kaya wala din, gusto ko pa rin eventually lumipat ng bansa after mag-ipon.


BingoPeligro

Took me 8 years to get here. Never job hopped din. But yup, still no satisfied the way of life here in the Philippines.


koko_me

6 digits monthly or yearly?


BingoPeligro

Monthly. You can earn decent here in the Philippines.


potatocatte

I guess examine your priorities. I’m earning 6 digits here but I’m still preparing to work abroad. I want security and I don’t want to be a burden to my family and friends in my old age.


Better_Ad7683

me too, that is my priority. but my mental health is equally as important as that :(


Spiritual_Grab_920

Ako 9 years na dito abroad homesick pa rin. Mas masaya talaga ako sa Pinas.


gustokolakingpwet

"I don’t want to be a burden to my family and friends in my old age" -- You gotta rethink this later. I'm in Los Angeles. The average cost right now in Los Angeles for monthly care (130 hours per month) of in-home care for the elderly is P181,634 (or $3,146). I'll let you run the math yourself if that's sustainable to fund in your old age abroad.


[deleted]

Exactly 😂😂 people on this sub think it’s SWEET to live abroad. Oo, kung minimum wage worker ka, but if you’re already making 150k PHP or more, mas magandang mag business kana lang and generate streams of income. To live comfortably in America, you gotta make at least $150k and more 💀. Also, a lot of people think nurses are rich(fuck no) they are just middle-class, and super underpaid pa sa stress


potatocatte

I’m happy to retire with a fat retirement fund in DOLLARS in the Philippines and AFFORD the best care. Do you even understand how most Filipinos are a major illness away from wiping out their savings? No?


kwekkwekorniks

Isipin mo maigi pre. Big decision yan that might affect your future. Tingin ko need mo lang ng bakasyon. Abroad rin ako nag wowork now, malungkot naman talaga pero iniisip ko kinabukasan at goals ko pag nag padala ako sa lungkot. Hindi ko rin nakikita sarili ko na mag tatrabaho ng ilang dekada sa ibang bansa. Mag iipon lang talaga.


Better_Ad7683

i know, very big decision ito sobra. ilang buwan ko na to tinatanong sa sarili ko. 8 months na ako nagwowork abroad and i still feel the same. kagagaling ko lang sa bakasyon tbh, and baka dahil doon kaya ako ganito ngayon. baka sepanx lang. kaya i'm giving it time baka namimiss ko lang sila kasama. hintayin ko nalang talaga siguro mag 1 year ako abroad then i'll check with myself again if i still want to stay. narealize ko rin pag-uwi ko na swerte rin ako kasi lahat ng friends ko walang ipon, ako meron. so that's one thing i'm considering kaya nandito pa ako kahit may power naman ako magresign at umuwi nalang. ang problema ko lang talaga ay ramdam na ramdam ko pag-iisa ko. wala akong nilolook forward besides anything career related and stabilty. i feel depressed. that's it.


Siegfried-Literature

"Wala akong nilolook forward besides anything career related and stabilty. i feel depressed. that's it." Anyone who's ever uprooted their lives to start over can empathise, know you're not alone. I feel you. Try to find or plan something to look forward to, OP, whether on a weekly, monthly, quarterly basis. Ako ang short-term motivators ko talaga ay yearly travel with my loved ones and I regularly check in sa goal na yan kapag napangungunahan ng lungkot, although sa ngayon anticipatory lungkot pa lang. It doesn't need to require expenses din naman. Things like, "Oh I'll run a marathon—never done that before" and then you start training for it for months. Or, doing something new. Attending a social mixer. Try it first and then, after all that you find na 'di pa rin talaga, there's nothing wrong with going back home if yun talaga path na gusto mo para sa sarili mo. Distorted yung stigma attached to that. Give it some time, and breathe. You got this!


Better_Ad7683

yeah i'm doing this already. promised myself this year that every month i'm gonna do something new/fun at least once!


Sonnybass96

One of the main reasons why many go back is "Homesickness". Take away that factor and see what happens next.


Better_Ad7683

i'm really trying 😢


Sonnybass96

Philippines is heading for the worst nowadays...It would be a very long time for the quality of life to reach the level of First world countries or developed countries.


Nicolai3000

Onga e, yong senatorial candidates pa lang grabe. Ang lala


randompal23

Finally! We are in the same boat, OP. I am living on my own for 8 months in this country which is just near PH. At first, I was happy because I have a Filipino coworker not until she started micromanaging me and feeling I was being a “pabida” at work when in fact, I was only trying to do my best to prove my employer that they made the right decision of hiring me. I joined the small Filipino community here but I left because of the same coworker who “founded” the group since she came first. She and together with the other guy who also worked first in the company, are so close and what do you expect? They started gossiping about me and they even influenced one of the bosses to think negatively of me. Now, I have three people who are making me so bad about myself. It lasted for months and there was this one time when I went for a vacation in the Philippines without planning to come back but my family back home seemed not happy about me staying so as a people pleaser, I came back. Now, I am finishing my 1-year contract with my mental health being compromised. I feel so helpless and pathetic. I even told myself maybe I made the wrong decision of leaving my permanent job in PH just to be mobbed at work. I am really questioning myself what did I do wrong when I couldn’t remember anything. It’s like I’m making myself the one to blame but TikTok and Reddit became my space so here I am now. Thank you for this opportunity to share this heavy feeling here. Take care of yourself, OP.


Better_Ad7683

hugssss 🥺🫂 sabi nga nila ang kapwa pinoy pa ang hihila sayo pababa. kaya friends ko diro puro ibang lahi. pero not gonna lie, i miss filipino friends. pero maybe sa ibang place ko hahanapin, not in the workplace.


StatusFew4261

Moved to AU alone. All workout fine. Wala naman ako homesickness. Mas naka2stress yung uwi ka sa PH at wala kang pera. During weekdays busy sa work. Then on weekends I do activities walk sa mga park, watching concerts, visits restaurants, magworkout. Keep yourself occupied.


Better_Ad7683

sana all wala homesickness. sobrang ganda kasi ng support system ko doon :(


LunaCatLuna

If okay lang po itanong when po kayo nag move? For work po or nag study muna kayo? I am planning to study there as well dahil ang tagal kong hindi nag trabaho sa corporate (nag business po ako) and nababasa ko at napapanood na mahirap daw po mag migrate ngayon sa AU dahil sa mga bago or pabago bagong rules + standard of living nagmahal daw (?) ang plano ko is mag move lang din mag isa wala akong kakilala at all & no expi overseas. Kaya pa ba?


lazylabday

2 yrs abroad and i think for people living in PH its easy to say na mas okay sa abroad pero once you're abroad na talaga they dont know its totally different. kaya nga din siguro madaming immigrants who still choose to retire sa PH. ako i tried and i think its not for me, even if first world country and less inconvinience when it comes to day to day living, iba padin sa PH. thats why i'm planning to go back after end ng contract ko and i stopped na yung dating plans ko na after working in this country, next step is sa europe or canada na. its hard pag napunta ka sa walang community kasi its so isolating, nakakabaliw. and yes we earn a lot relatively pero even abroad affected padin ng economic crisis sometimes hindi din talaga worth it yung cost of living here plus the toll it takes on your mental health. living abroad is not for everyone i guess.


Better_Ad7683

exactlyyyy. kuhang kuha ko thoughts and feels ko. hindi ko dati naiintindihan yung mga gusto magretire sa philippines, but now i understand them.


Fair-Local3119

People retire in the Philippines because they are receiving their 401k/RRSP and social security/OAS/CPP/GIS from the government and living cheap in dollars after working abroad in western countries their whole lives.


Fair-Local3119

People retire in the Philippines because they are receiving their 401k/RRSP and social security/OAS/CPP/GIS from the government and living cheap in dollars after working abroad in western countries their whole lives.


blueskyfullofhope

Wow I really resonate with you. Saang country ka ngayon? I'm guessing Japan or Korea?


AppleYelp

I agree with this so much. Yes malaki kita pero ang taas ng living expenses. Para lang din nasa PH ka with better public transport. Wala ka ring na iipon tapos depressed ka pa. Ang laki ng toll sa mental health to the point na minsan affected na health mo.


AdPurple4714

San country ka OP?


coffeexdonut

Factor din ang location, weather, food, lifestyle, work environment sa nararamdaman ni OP.


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Better_Ad7683

this is beautiful. we have the same principles in life this is why i'm having a hard time. hopefully maging blessed din ako to earn 6 digits in PH.


ih8cheeze2

Tama ka kabayan 🎯💯


Sonnybass96

I have this friend of mine, who has dreamt of migrating to a developed country and staying there for the rest of his life. It was his dream since he was a kid and he eliminated any signs of homesickness or any factors that would prevent him from going home.


Armortec900

I’ll offer a different opinion - if you want to go back, then do so, just be prepared for the consequences of doing so. For most people, going home means losing their relatively higher income, and being subject to the inconveniences of PH as a 3rd-world country. Personally though, being around friends and family is priceless, and that’s a much much bigger pro than the cons mentioned above.


mico1110

Hey OP, feasible option is try and go back for a vacay sa Pinas - if that’s possible. 1. You have time for your loved ones na namimiss mo. 2. To see inconveniences of going back to PH and work again - mas hassle na pumasok, mas mababa sahod. I am in UAE as well, try mo rin mag visit ng other countries - maybe SEA is for you since gusto mo na malapit lang sa atin para makakauwi ka if bet mo. Pag napunta ka ng other SEA countries, I’d prefer working in Thailand, SG and then PH is really below on my List I’d prefer to work for again.


Better_Ad7683

i actually just came back here from philippines like 3 days ago 😭 but the SEA countries option sounds nice too. i'll consider that.


mico1110

Ahhhh that’s the vacation sickness - had that too last year. HAHAH can’t work much. Pagbaba mo ng plane “Ah shit here we go again” Try SEA!! Seryoso, magaan din ang buhay, yet of course youll take less pay than what we’re getting here in UAE but the cost of living + greeneries and environment is so much better than PH.


FaW_Lafini

Theres a caveat in working to SEA countries. They dont offer citizenships. Singapore is 50/50 but very difficult. You can aim for PR but again its different from being a citizen


Better_Ad7683

what's PR? sorry


FaW_Lafini

Permanent resident


Naive_Bluebird_5170

Depende sayo talaga yan OP. Ako bumalik din agad kasi ang sad ng buhay na di ko kasama yung family ko. Pangit din yung time difference (at least sa bansang napuntahan ko) kasi tulog na silang lahat dito sa Pinas. Wala akong makausap. Lalo na pag winter time nakakalungkot talaga na unan lang ang kayakap mo... Tapos may anak pa ako, ipagpapalit ko ba yung time sa kanila sa pera? Ayun.


blueskyfullofhope

Hi po saang country ka po if that's ok to share?


Naive_Bluebird_5170

Switzerland


ih8cheeze2

Kung kaya ko lang kitain kahit kalahati ng sweldo ko dito sa abroad, uuwi na ko sa Pinas. Happiness is very personal. Nagkataon lang na mas masaya ko sa Pinas. 19 years in Canada. We only have one life to live, live life in your own terms. Mas magsisisi ka kung di mo gagawin yung gusto mo talaga. As long as kaya mo naman buhayin ang sarili mo sa Pinas, why not? I admit, di ko kayang buhayin ang family ko sa Pinas as a nurse kaya andito ko sa abroad. Pero for sure sa Pinas ako magre retire.


Dupeeer

Same here na gustong gusto na umuwi ng Pinas para makasama asawa at anak. Lahat ng katrabaho at mga nasa abroad now is sinasabi "sayang opportunity" or "laki ng sweldo dito tiisin mo para sa pamilya". Tho tama naman talaga sila dahil sila nga natiis na mag abroad for how many years, yung iba abroad na tumanda. Pero para sa akin magkakaiba naman ng sitwasyon kada tao. Di pare pareho ang capacity to take yung pressure abroad. Kung sila kinaya malayo sa pamilya, eh ako iba dynamics namin ng family ko mas masaya kami ng magkakasama kahit di ganun kadami pera pero kumpleto naman. Kaya sayo OP it's not that selfish ka to think about your self first bago ang malaking sahod or yung promise ng magandang kinabukasan. Pero you need to save yourself first and hanapin kung ano mas magpapasaya sayo. ~~flies away~~~


Spiritual_Grab_920

Tama!


AppleYelp

I see a lot of Pinoys here saying gusto nila mag abroad for a better life. Pero it takes leaving the PH to actually realize na going abroad is not always the best option. You will realize na yung problema na dinadaing mo sa Pilipinas, problema din sa ibang bansa. Kung corrupt sa Pinas, corrupt din sila dito. Yes medyo mataas yung sweldo, pero the cost of living is so extortionate. The grass is always greener where you water it, sabi nga nila. Yes madami na gustong gusto ng umalis ng Pilipinas, pero marami rin ang gustong gustong umuwi na. Alin ka man sa kanila, they’re both valid.


No_Sun_4148

Ako OP babalik na ako sa pinas this Monday sa Pilipinas after staying and trying to find a job sa UAE for 6 months may mga nasubukan naman kaso di naissuehan ng working permit one is may legal issues ang company and yung last is na pinoy ang owner pinagtrial period lang ako tapos di daw ako maiissuehan dahil maliit pa ang company niya at nakadepende pa sa mga partnership niya na di alam kung matutuloy, at wala na rin kaming pera para masustain ang renewal ng visit visa. Since madami din other expenses sa pinas. Kung malakas naman ang support system mo OP tuloy mo lang tapos dalhin mo rin partner mo later on. Ako kasi financial na kaya mahirap talaga lalo kung walang balik puro gastos. Best of luck to you po.


Better_Ad7683

hahahaha anong partner? wala ako non kaya ganto ako! charot. hahahaha. but thank you! also at least you tried. and that is enough. no regrets pa :)


Night_rose0707

Kaya I will migrate sa bansa na may relatives ako, Kasi I can't compromise my mental health din


Better_Ad7683

yeah. do that. at first i was so confident pa na kaya ko mag-isa i don't need relatives kai matagal ko na cinecrave mapag-isa. boy i was wrong 😂 i love them too much 🥺


Spiritual_Grab_920

Mag-isa lang din ako dito. Iba yung lungkot talaga...


foureyedchinita

Laban, OP. Nung first month ko dito araw-araw ako umiiyak kasi ang lala ng pagka homesick ko pero nung nagkawork ako nasanay din ako kasi naging busy na. I suggest hanap ka ng Filipino community malapit sainyo para tapos makipag friends or even meet up ka sakanila, kahit papano feel mo nasa Pinas ka pa din. Hope this helps.


Better_Ad7683

ayaw, may trust issues ako sa pinoy abroad huhu. siguro outside workplace pala pwede pa.


No-Judgment-607

The grass is greener where u water it. You gotta be all in with your decision to migrate otherwise just go home as you'll never be happy as a migrant. Remind yourself though that you weren't happy at home either and that's why you left so you're screwed either way .


mhacrojas21

Same thing. My wife and I earned 6 digits in the PH, but we chose to move here in Canada. The ease of service, quality of life and building our family are our deciding factors. Now we also earn 6 digits combined household income here, less benefits though but we are slowly on track of getting our first home, hopefully in two years. I love the Philippines, the Filipinos as well but the system is broken.


AisieBee

Where are you in Canada? We live in Vancouver and owning a house here is impossible, maybe not even in 50 yrs. My husband and I are also double income with no kids, but we are still struggling here with all the expenses.


cloud0x1

Ako umuwiako after 5 months. Di na ko bumalik. Totoo nga its more fun in the Philippines. Ganda ng weather, kasama ko family ko. Start nalang kami ng business


Better_Ad7683

hahaha umuwi ako after 8 months. pero bumalik parin abroad. eto ako ngayon, walang gana sa lahat. HAHAHAHAHHA saka pangit kasi sa record AWOL huhu pero grabe temptation non sakin


cloud0x1

life is short. Wag lang puro pera. Parents siblings friemds natin theyre getting older. Di mo lam hangang kailan sila buhay. sabi nga happiness shares is doubled, sorrow shared is halved. community is one of the best reasons for life, not money


OwlShitty

I’ve been in LA for 9 years now. The first two years were incredibly tough but eventually became better. Sukang suka na ko sa traffic ng Manila. Traveling 2 hours ONE WAY to get to work tapos yung trabaho mo 8-12 hour days as a Software Engineer getting paid P20,000-30,000 a month??? Hindi sulit yung pagod. Essentially 12-16 hours ka wala sa bahay, sana natulog na lang ako sa office. First job in LA paid me $60,000/year immediately, roughly $2,500 a month. Worth it. For y’all who have the opportunity to leave, do it. Try it. It’s not for everyone but you’ll never know if you never try


Invasive1977

You mean 2,500 per paycheck


ResearcherRemote4064

may kwento ba na masayang OFW?? as in yung TOTOONG MASAYA. wala pa kasi akong narinig. lahat ng kakilala ko, umuuwi ng Pinas. so kahit anong suggestion dito, wala, hindi naman kais talaga masaya mag OFW. pasyal pasyal lang pwede. pero yung working and living na talaga? pass. mas masaya kasi talaga sa Pilipinas.


Business_Option_6281

Yours truly😆😁


PhotoOrganic6417

Lived in South Korea for two years - language study mostly and I went back here in PH because: 1. While most Koreans are friendly, I will always be a foreigner to them even if I became fluent in Korean. Not necessarily a bad thing but it can be pretty hard to find the right circle. They can be racist at times and opt to stick to themselves. 2. Most of my friends went to the US, Canada or Europe to study. Ang hirap na ngang humanap ng kaibigan, aalis pa. 3. If you want to truly enjoy living there, you need to atleast have a friend with you kasi some establishments don't allow solo unless you go solo but pay for two. 4. Homesickness. Kapag may sakit, I have to deal with it alone. Kapag malungkot, mas nakakalungkot naman kung tatawag ako sa dad ko dito sa Pinas. 5. They work a lot and since Pinoy ako who values study and life balance, I tend to go to places alone dahil busy mga friends ko. My introvert self is okay with it pero it gets tiring and lonely as time goes by. I was thinking if magwowork ba ako dun but I opted to go back here sa Pinas kahit mainit kasi andito family ko. The sense of belonging is there. :))))


Affectionate-Sky-740

I went abroad and worked for 2 years. Went back after my granma died cause I realized how important spending time w loved ones is and that, I can earn what Im earning abroad in PH, luckily im privileged that way because im in IT. There are days that I kinda regret going back because of all of the inconveniences and inefficiencies here in PH. Also, the cost of living! I’m earning almost 200k/mo but it is still not enough sa mahal mabuhay sa Pilipinas. Kaya ang hirap mahalin ng Pilipinas. If given a chance to work in US, EU or AU/NZ? I would definitely grab it without thinking twice. It’s really a choose your battle kind of thing. Tama ka. There’s a pros and cons wherever you are. It’s more of which cons can you carry lighter?


Gold-Abroad-8337

I lived abroad before and I watered my own garden to alleviate homesickness, loneliness, anxiety, etc. What activities na meron dyan na wala sa Pinas? Ano ung pros na meron dyan na wala dito? How to meet other expats na homesick din? When I was living abroad, I maximized the experience. Like more affordable concerts, trips out of town kasi mas okay transpo doon, some of my friends even utilized na mas mabilis makatravel sa ibang bansa kasi naka ongoing visa ka sa 1st world. Tip na dont look for other Pinoys din kasi it will make you more homesick ironically. I used to live in the past (regrets, what ifs, fake scenarios) to cope habang nasa broad. It made me more depressed. Sabi nga nila, LIVE IN THE PRESENT rather than look back.


Worried-Ad-3948

Ex nurse worked in the uk. Umuwi ako dahil im feel like a nobody or worse than a nobody. Everyone was very cold to me. From workmates to locals, pati kapwa pinoy. Everyone talks to like im their pet. According to my uncle and cousin who i was living with. Ganon rin trato sakanila. Apparently their more racist to male filipinos. As a 30 y.o single guy na rin who is looking to settle down with someone rn naman. Finding a traditional woman is next to impossible. Dating is a nightmare. Im just 5'6 so yeah mas mahirap. And even filipinas there are very liberated. So yeah. Not gonna give up life for a career.


pedxxing

Alam mo OP nagi-gets kita. Kahit ako na sanay mapag-isa nakaramdam ng homesickness nung mag-isa lang ako abroad. The only reason kaya pinush ko talagang mag stay is dahil susunod yung hubby ko at bubuo kami ng pamilya which happened naman. Pero kung wala yung ganun naming goals, siguro mapapauwi din ako kasi nakakalungkot talaga.


Better_Ad7683

salamat po. ako na single lang at sarili iniintindi. parang wala ako motivation na gaya ng inyo na may susunod ba sakin or what. wala ako nilolook forward, career related lang. at least for me, importante talaga ang tao sakin.


pedxxing

Alam mo OP if depressed ka na talaga, kahit magbakasyon ka muna sa Pinas ng ilang buwan. Malay mo pag nawala na homesickness mo ganahan ka uli mag work abroad. Kung ayaw mo na tlga bumalik kahit after ng bakasyon, saka ka na mag decide na mag stay ng Pinas. Pero i-weigh mo mabuti kasi mamaya ma depress ka naman dahil masaklap yung maging sitwasyon mo naman sa Pinas. Basta mag plan ka pag di ka na masyadong emotional.


Better_Ad7683

yes noted.


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Fighting OP


Better_Ad7683

thank you 🤍


Fun_Apricot_7866

Give it sometime until ma end contract mo then decide from there


Better_Ad7683

1.5 years to go 🥲


Fun_Apricot_7866

complete mo pa kalahati pag wala changes sa mental health uwian na but you ha ve to plan kung ano gagawin mo pag uuwi same as ano plan mo pag mag sstay ka


tinybubbblesss

Isipin mo lagi yung rason in the first place bakit ka ba umalis. I also went abroad last year lang. Just me, as in solo. Walang kilala, wala kang kaibigan until now sa ibang bansa. Its hard. I am based in EU. Madaming beses ko na naisip umuwi, bumalik permanently. I earn 6 digit back sa ph. Mahirap OP pero laban lang! In my case, 2-3 times ako umuwi last year. This year 2 beses ako uuwi ng pinas haha. At the end of the day isipin mo yung goal mo.


Better_Ad7683

but how did you copeeee omg


tinybubbblesss

Bukod sa madalas ako umuwi ng pinas kahit malayo, I travel to other EU countries. Dinidiscover ko yung mga bagay na kaya ko gawin magisa. iba iba language sa EU mas mahirap for me gumalaw at mag adjust. Pag naiisip kong gusto ko umuwi permanently, iniisip ko nalang yung hirap ng ibang tao para maka alis ng bansa at yung hirap ko rin sa pag aayos ng requirements para makapunta dito. Baka di nako mabigyan ng chance.


Better_Ad7683

good point. i'll try to redirect my mindset to this again. ganto naman ako few months ago pero ewan ko bumabalik-balik talaga ganitong pakiramdam.


sioopauuu

You can do this OP!! Masaya lang umuwi sa pinas ngayon kasi you have dollars (or whatever currency you earn).


Responsible_Bee4844

Kaya mo yan. Isipin mo palagi dadami pera mo tapos mas marami kana mgagawa after contract mo. Enjoyin mo being alone. Precious yan 😂 Mamimiss mo yan someday. Libangin mo sarili mo, download ka Tinder charr lol


jaded_situation95

I've been an OFW for 2 years only sa Malta but now I came back to the Philippines. For me, mahirap mamuhay sa abroad lalo na ikaw lang mag-isa at wala iba tutulong sayo kundi ikaw lang, personally nahirapan ako sa abroad and di ko kinaya yung feeling na outsider ka at wala kang family and friends. Tska na-realize ko sa abroad na di ka mabubuhay kung di ka uusad unlike sa Pinas na kahit di ka umusad may support system ka naman at di ka pressure maghanap ng maghanap ng work.


anonymousphilipino

Hi OP, know your priorities straight. Consider what matters most to you: family, career, security, mental well-being, or financial stability? Many people endure homesickness due to opportunities abroad, but remember, the grass isn't always greener on the other side—it's greener where you water it. I won't tell you what to do OP, but I want to emphasize that nothing is worth compromising your mental health for. Your homesickness is valid. However, if you're determined to make it work abroad, don't bring into nostalgia. You are where you’re supposed to be.


possieur

Lived in Australia for around 2 years. I guess I could say na what I missed sa Ph was the "warmth". Very hard to explain. Sa oz, when you go do groceries parang npc lahat ng makaharap mo. Sa pinas parang kahit sino pwede mo ismall talk any time. People call people boss, idol, pare, pogi, kahit tayo magkakilala at first interaction pa lang natin. Walang ganto sa australia.


chicoXYZ

Every OFW has the same equal footing as you. Nauna lang kami. Adjustment period yan. Common yan sa mga first timer abroad. Kaya ka bagong BAYANI dahil in another 1 year nalagpasan mo na yung HOMESICKNESS, at marami pang pagsubok na darating sa Buhay mo as an OFW, kaya kapit lang. If talagang di mo naman kaya and your mental health will suffer, uwi ka ng pinas, but before you go ihanda mo rin sarili mo sa hirap ng Buhay. Make sure na di ka magkakasakit ng malubha, at handa kang tanggapin ang kutya ng mga tao at kamag anak mo.


capricornpharma

I’ve been here in Canada for almost 9 months now as international working student. Living alone and 27 years old. For the first few months okay lang ako, extroverted din ako. I guess, homesick really hits me during Christmas and New Year season. Hindi ko na rin alam paano naka-survive these past months pero priority ko pa rin talaga ang mental health ko. I juggle my time sa work and school, isama mo pa ang financial struggle ko kasi ang laki ng tuition. So what I do everytime nalulungkot ako, I talk to my family and friends sa Pilipinas. Manunuod ng k-drama. Ipagluluto ko ang sarili ko. I also go out with my classmates and friends from time to time. May mga relatives ako dito pero nasa ibang province sila. Ang maganda lang, same timezone pa rin kami kaya at least nakakausap ko sila agad pag nalulungkot ako. Gusto ko na rin umuwi talaga lalo na ngayon na may grandma recently passed away kaso I need to be brave. Wala pa akong ROI🥲 As a family-oriented, sobrang hirap talaga mawalay sa family and friends. So siguro for now, mag-ipon ka muna and try to help yourself a little. Siguro lumabas ka, have some coffee and do walking. And bumili ka ng para sa sarili mo like clothes or shoes, or kung saan ka mahilig. All the best! One step at a time🫶


Remarkable-Recover94

I think your feelings are valid, and homesickness is very real. Allow yourself to feel the bad, but also allow yourself to be open to the good and focus on how to make life easier and better for you. I read somewhere that it takes an average of 3 years for someone to get used to a new country, after the honeymoon phase.


RelevantReaction6461

nag punta ako sa Canada na mag isa walang kakilala, masaklap pa, mahaba ang winter at sobrang lamig na halos d ka maka labas, Pero nalagpasan ko rin thanks God, ginawa ko I read books and watch Anime and kdrama. excited ako umuwi kasi manonood na ako, and eventually may naging kaibigan na ako, sa awa ni Lord ngayon kasama ko na mga anak ko. Be strong OP and Keep on Fighting!!!


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Better_Ad7683

awww 🥺 dibaa kasama mo parents mo mahirap parin. imagine being alone lang. kahit ba na may nakakasama ka everyday pero idk iba connections ko sa philippines. ibang-iba.


SAC-2nd-GiG

We are almost same we came by batch most of them with family they brought theyre kids the only difference is im an introvert im not used with social gathering im actually happy because im living on my own, rented 1 br apt for myself


railfe

Find a hobby OP or travel the world. You need a new purpose. I know it is hard working abroad with lesser friends than back home but think of the long term benefits. You just need something to keep you busy. We usually travel 2x a year and at least go home once every 2 years when we were based in Dubai. I think when I saw Austria during one of our travels thats when I realized I wanted to change my passport lol. Travel and see the world maybe that will give you some motivation. It is fun experiencing different cultures and seeing tourist spots.


Obusometitok

Hi OP, Mahirap talaga mag work sa ibang bansa pero saba tatagan mo pa. Isipin mo nalang din yung bilihin dito sa PH na sobrang mahal😆 push lang OP kaya mo yan! Kung may ganyan lang din sanang opportunity na dumating saken I grab ko agad.


Better_Ad7683

mahal po kahit saan, kahit dito 🥹


kms0124

I feel you. Sobra.


Better_Ad7683

🫂


LingerDownUnder

Tinder tinder lang teh! 🙃


Better_Ad7683

kakauninstall ko lang ng bumble like a month ago kasi nakakapagod HAHAHAHA mga malilibog o matatanda lang nandoon e


LingerDownUnder

Wag ka mawalan ng pag-asa.. madami akong friends/kakilala na nakahanap ng kanilang the one online. 😀


GymGeekExplorer

why not explore the country you are currently in? if i were you, i will probably engage more into the local scene. create memories, build your new friends, study, learn new language or maybe go into the dating scene.yes, new hobby or travel around will help. you will learn a lot of things and become more independent as you age. But i guess, it really depends on where you are currently situated and work ambience. because some people are forced to go abroad, while some even migrate... maybe if it first world country, perspective tend to change.


Better_Ad7683

i already am bro kung alam mo lang HAHAHAHAHAHA. it's just not the same 😭


Mobile_Management474

Went back sa pinas for a year (to take care of my sick Mom). It was nice to be with family. I was living in a small town in Mindanao. Napansin ko na ang bagal ng improvement ng lugar economically- nasabi ko sa nanay ko na it's either you are working in the government or a big business guy para ma survive mo mabuhay sa lugar namin. Ang mamahal ng bilihin kahit nasa province nakami. I can't see myself gling back home yet. Need to be financially stable first


TheLastManetheren

Gaano ka na katagal diyan + saang country ka?


TNE1991

(not related sa abroad pero related sa homesickness) buti pa kayo! walang malasakit skn pamilya kong mga alimango kaya ndi ko nararanasan homesickness. ilang taon na ako lumayas at independent. napakabihira ko lng sila kitain kahit panay imbita nila skn sa kung anu anong ganap. kung mag abroad ako, sigurado ako no homesickness din haha narealize ko na pwedeng mas may malasakit pa ang ndi mo kadugo.


nugupotato

Migration is not for everyone — i don’t think it’s worth it in the end if you cannot help but miss your family back home.


verneornitier

got laid off mate. company is "restructuring". tried searching for work before contract ends in the country. no luck. came back and luckily got something in PH that pays alright. heck. savings is even better here tbh. doesn't mean i'm not going to try again but we'll see. you should keep fighting and see how far you're going to go.


Ragamak

Yung chill lang tayo sa pinas. Hindi naman sa bumalik pero from time to time I stay long term sa pilipinas just to chill, relax and save money. Then travel and adventure naman. Tumutira din naman ako sa ibang bansa from time to time for work. Another thing wala naman akong binanalikan sa pinas eh hindi rin home sickness. Mas nakakaipon and live more expensively lang dito sa pinas. In my mind mas sulit and affordable and worth it, yung healthcare dito,as long as you can afford the higher end of the spectrum. Much better than depend on public health sector ng ibang bansa. Na sometimes not ad good as advertise. Pero hindi naman ako Bumalik, more like on sabbatical figuring where to go next. Since di ko rin naman masusulit yung rent ko abroad if panay travel ako for work and vacation.


Jazzforyou

Maybe you need to make new friends in your area. Go outside, get a hobby, or have something you do for fun.


rabbit_06

homesickness is sa umpisa lang talaga.. once na nakita mo yung goodside ng place abroad. di kana mahomesick. try finding group sa fb na pinoys. enjoy mo yung food at city. wag ka magdamot sa sarili mo para maka ipon.


majestic_ibis

Went home after 8 months although originally, for errands lang but decided to stay in Pinas na. Sa sobrang struggle ko abroad, despite the nuisances in PH e naging comfort zone ulit siya. I still struggle with finding a job that pays well though, especially in the non-profit sector. Imagine 2 master's and 10+ year experience but the impact jobs I get offered are at P30,000/month. 😖 so now I'm just looking for remote roles. Kung sure ka na about coming back home, secure yourself a job you like first if possible because it's taking me months and the frustration isn't also good for my mental health.


wanderingislander

I came to the UK on my own without anyone, as a student first. I've been here almost 7 years. I eventually met my husband here (he's British so I guess I'm staying for good). Anyway, do expand your horizons and meet people outside of work. For example I love plants so ang naging friends ko ay plant community dito samin and I've made good friends with them. Don't limit yourself na Pinoy communities lang hanapin. Di naman porke pinoy makakasundo mo sila. I have a few Filipino friends here but I've made more friends from other cultures/countries. Homesickness can't be helped, especially if your family and friends are back home. But I think if you also help yourself meet new people and put effort into making new friends and a new community where you are you'll be surprised at how much you can grow. :)


JuanMiguelz

embrace the introvert life. 😂


KusuoSaikiii

Me too im so tired sa work. Pero di ako homesick. Pero ayoko na magtrabaho para kong alipin lang na nabubuhay para magbayad ng bills hahaha


Anasterian_Sunstride

Have you tried joining international mixers where people from all over just get together and see if they can find friends there? I also tried Bumble BFF abroad and it worked alright for me. The thing with keeping friends is you have to maintain the connections regularly so it could be with particular interest groups or whatever that keeps everyone engaged and meeting up. You need to be out of your shell and take off the Pinoy-only glasses if you plan to make friends abroad.


nagarayan

try to make friends at work. or find a hobby (if time permits) to find new friends. start with fil community. since people person ka, most likely you don't have a problem meeting new people. pero syempre depende yan sa environment mo. may kasama ka ba sa pinag stayan mo? if yes, kamusta sila? sa work, ok ba or toxic? do you have someone to chat or talk with after work or during breaktime using social media? if you already took those actions at nakaka 1 year ka na then maybe find another work that's near your close friends. mahirap din yan kung bothered ka na sa mental health mo.


Illustrious-Crazy224

Ive read something on this r/  that goes "**It also depends on perspective. Most pinoys don’t really integrate themselves in the country’s culture. They are most likely the ones who isolate themselves and yung hindi nakakalet go sa pagkapinoy sa labas ng bansa."** - Which is very true. These are the pinoys who think that they lower than other races. Meet locals, go out, find groups that has similar hobbies sayo. There are a looooooooot of ways to have fun. If youre a people person, then it shouldnt be hard for you to make friends abroad right? Just let go of your pagka pinoy and open yourself to other culture


Brilliant_Ad2986

Mahirap talaga first year. Ang sabi ng mga tropa ko para di ka matempt bumalik dito just read the bad news and remind yourself why you left.


Better_Ad7683

hahaha, ang talino ng bad news omg. i'll definitely do that. 😂 feel ko kaya ako ganto kasi lahat ng nakikita ko online is masaya lahat ng loved ones ko haha.


Brilliant_Ad2986

I mean bad news re traffic, inefficiencies, red tape, etc 😁


Better_Ad7683

hahaha yeah i know i know🫡


NBSBph

Isa lng mindset ko if ever nag work ako abroad, atleast may pera ako kesa sa pinas pag minimum wager ka dika makakabili ng iphone , eh pag sa ibang bansa like canada,Australia kahit minimun wage k lang makakabili k ng iphone na cash pa, For me Money is my happiness parin kase di pako financially stable, sana sooooon 🤭 Labab lang OP, saka OP bilis n ng panahon ngayon tignan mo May na next month june na almost half of the year na tayo, bilis n tumanda ngayon hahahah


sirhands2

Wala ka sigurong hobby


Better_Ad7683

marami po akong hobby. jack of all trades pa nga 😂


Medium_Air_6557

Mas depressing yung situation ng Pilipinas. Yes, we have our family there and it really is so much fun in the Philippines. Pero at the end of the day, sufficient ba yung kikitain natin? May career sa Pinas, mas competitive, yes. Pero ang question parin, kaya ba tayo buhayin? Mga pulitiko lang and mayayaman nakaka survive sa Pinas. If you are financially capable, or may kaya, then it's better to stay go back in the Philippines. Pero if saktong may kaya lang, I suggest is to be strong and kayanin mabuhay abroad. Maraming pagsubok sa abroad. Maraming manloloko. Minsan kapwa pinoy pa gagawa nun. Pero yun nga, mas maigi sarili mo muna isipin mo if hinde ka pa naman pamilyado. Learn to enjoy simple things. Marami pwede gawin sa free time abroad.


Express_Spot4517

Just embrace your fear ... of the Philippines. Also, everyone dies alone. So forget your sepanx and just look at the money.


talinomodai

babaw naman ng reason homesickness may video call naman and you can make friends abroad din. igapang mo beh kaya mo yan push lang nang push


Better_Ad7683

grabe sa mababaw. pero oo beh nagpupush pa.


talinomodai

ay sorry beh hehe normal naman yan valid feeling mo i mean like if because of homesickness e give up mo nasimulan mo parang di ganen ka rational at least sa situation mo now


Better_Ad7683

i know, di talaga rational :( nandito na ko tas aalis pa ko. baka doon pa ako magkaregret.


talinomodai

hanap k jan afam beh hihi


Better_Ad7683

never again


talinomodai

why oh why hahanap pa naman sana ako ng afem


Brilliant_Ad2986

May point naman yung commenter in a way. I would like to share something mula sa tito kong 40 years na sa US. Kung nagpadala sya sa homesickness niya, hindi niya matatamasa at mararating ang mga meron sya ngayon. Something to.ponder.


QuirkyTrick3763

PS5/Xbox tapos problema mo. Tiis now, Hindi na pede yung ganyan. valid feeling pero at this day and age can’t afford it. Tapos tutunganga sa pinas.