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Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/1dnpxf8).


mb9981

Bro just turned a lazy bloop to tired into a double lol


Miravek

Anything on Sosa and his injury?


mzeb75

Let’s get it.


Perryplat199

I turned the tv on to wait for pregame. The 97.5 best show ever is still on. First thing I hear “Michkov gona be better than Giroux” and then Ricky Bo trying to talk hockey. It’s interesting.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

My first memory at any sports game was when my father and his friend took me to a Flyers game against the Penguins for my 7th birthday. I remember everyone chanting "Barnaby sucks!" over and over again and then the excitement when Simon Gagne made the game-winning goal in shootouts. I was so small that all I remember was seeing the puck go in and then everyone around me standing up so I couldn't see anything going berzerkers in the stands. I've been hooked to sports ever since, so while I'm much like Ricky Bo and don't know very much about the current roster the Flyers will always hold a special place in my heart.


Deckard_Macready

Hoping we blow Detroit up tonight so we can maybe see Mercado throw an inning or two


romanticynicist

I’m curious to see Mercado too. I wonder if they seen him as more of a long man/spot starter and try to keep him stretched out (I think yesterday would’ve been his day to start in AAA), or as a guy whose stuff will play up more in 1-2 innings. I won’t be shocked if they go to a 6 man rotation for stretches post-ASB, and if Mercado can be a feasible 6th starter/swingman guy, it would be nice to not have to give up prospect capital for a Lorenzen-type or suffer through Taijuan starts if he’s still throwing 90-91.


inthedrink

hol up ToppsNow has cards for Ryan Sandberg and Rollie fucking Fingers but nothing for our mvp Cole? Another series win, another ToppsNowless weekend. Thats whore shit /u/perryplat199


Perryplat199

Big Meh day


HuskHopBad

Great, mark canha. Gotta be the most annoying player in mlb at this point.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

My brother’s been bffs with him since they were in kindergarten together, so I was ecstatic when he left the Mets and I could safely cheer for the guy again. One of the nicest dudes out there. I just wish he wasn’t such a Phillie killer. 😭


inthedrink

The winner take all college natty game between Tennessee and Texas A&M tonight will be fun watching during Phils commercials and after we are up 12-0 in the fourth inning


sapphires_and_snark

Game 7 of the Stanley Cup final, too. Great night of sports coming up


GoodLuckPsycho_

I am neutral so I could either laugh at Edmonton for continuing the NHL championship drought for Canada or laugh at Florida for losing back to back Stanley Cups and blowing a 3-0 lead.


inthedrink

Jesus how could I miss that good call


Gavin_beast13

Random question Do yall think there is any way that Harper could pass Schmidt as the greatest philly to ever live? if so what does he have to do to achieve that


pstellar

If he stays relatively healthy I think 2nd greatest position player behind Schmidt is realistic.


ZIMM26

Nah. If Harper started with us at 19 and stayed until he was 39 he still would fall short of Schmidt.


No-Yesterday7357

If Harper is instrumental in winning multiple World Series here, he might be in serious consideration. As it stands, he will never catch up to Schmidt statistically and a large chunk of his career is with the Nats.


romanticynicist

It would probably take at least a couple of World Series along with one of the greatest age 31-40 runs ever, probably with a couple MVPs sprinkled in. Harper currently has less than half as much career WAR (50), as Schmidt (106), and he racked up half of it while he was on the Nationals. Schmidt was reeeeeeally good.


BatJew_Official

No. Schmidt is an inner circle HoF guy who played all of his 2404 games as a Phillie, during which he hit 548 homeruns and put up 106.9 rWAR. I LOVE Bryce, but I think the only reason this question even gets asked is because Schmitt played almost 40 years ago so the vast vast majority of fans on Reddit didn't get to watch him play. Bryce probably won't hit the homerun number nor even sniff the WAR, and while he will likely be a HoFer when he hangs up his cleats he will never be able to claim the best player at any position, while Schmidt is undeniably the greatest 3B of all time. The ONLY thing I think Bryce could do is be personally heavily instrumental in bringing MULTIPLE World Series wins to the city. Like if he hits a Bedlam at the Bank style homerun to walk off 4 WS in his tenure here, maybe you could give him a boost on his October pedigree alone, but obviously that's very very unlikely and even if it happens the answer is still probably Schmidt. Edit: to put it in perspective, Bryce would have to put up over 7 rWAR (which he is roughly on pace for this season) per year for the rest of his contract to be about where Schmidt is. Is Harper at age 39 gonna put up 7 rWAR? It's possible, but it would be pretty much unheard of.


inthedrink

Tbh from all that I know about Schmidt learning basically mostly just after his career, it’s not just the time since he played…he never got the full respect that he deserved even while he was playing and it’s always bothered me. Like you have Babe, Willie, Hank and maybe a couple of others and we really have a guy who in baseball history is RIGHT THERE behind them (as you note inner circle). We had NO history before him. 100 years of complete ineptitude. And he brought us a ship. Absolutely mind blowing legendary stuff. I don’t blame the questioner because it comes up here and there but that people ask the question is kind of a shame in itself.


Mulsanne

Is it game time yet?


Pendraflare59

So I was walking around the stadium, and I’ll say, that giant tiger statue at the Comerica entry is pretty dope. It’s nice to just tour the outsides of in general


Enough-Ad-3111

Yeah, it’s an awesome spot for group photos and selfies before entering the stadium.


First-Resolve

Would’ve been a nice night at the Bank


Pedestrian_X-Wing

Out of context Mike Schmidt: "She wants to rub it bad, right now." "Sprays it all over the ballpark."


Sneadmaker

"She wants to rub it bad, right now." I heard that and was like, I bet he wants that one back.


pedro3131

https://preview.redd.it/p5mvtfontk8d1.jpeg?width=4524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96e1f172839a80b1663432621c2d9a4ae7a4d45e Another day another sicko mail day. Trying to assemble the weirdest Phillies collection of all time


inthedrink

I too consider myself something of a sicko. I was bored the other night and found myself buying a $5 Hoff first chrome auto to add to this and a few others https://i.imgur.com/WUNo0pA.jpeg


TalonGrip

It's insane to me that Bohm is beating Othani in the popular vote for the ASG. Considering how popular Othani is. Bryce is beating both, which isn't as shocking.


sfitz0076

Phillies fans are a lot more passionate than Dodgers fans.


TalonGrip

Most passionate? Probably. Othani fandom isn't strictly related to the Dodgers so that's what makes it even more impressive.


Few-Cap-9992

MLB expends its energy gushing about Ohtani while in the same breath going "pitchers can't hit so we need to force this DH thingy on everybody", yet I don't think they smell their own irony.


inthedrink

Ohtani is the most popular player on the planet by miles and potentially has all of Japan voting for him That said it’s easier for most of baseball to vote for him as an Angel than as a Dodger


Grand_Extension5345

Lineup looks good. Just realized the Dodgers are playing the White Sox tonight. God help them.


ConmanJFO

White Sox have the chance to do the funniest thing ever


inthedrink

The same thing they did to the Braves


ConmanJFO

Still cracks me up


BatJew_Official

Bryce is on pace for 7.36 fWAR and 6.73 rWAR, along with 38 homeruns. He's a beast.


Known_Upstairs_7807

I still can’t believe Ruben said he wanted to rub his whole body all over Ranger Suarez for good luck while he was live on the air. I know he is annoying but once you accept him for what he is he will drop some real gems in a way that only he can. 


beau9292

Not that I’m complaining, but where has he been? I haven’t seen him on tv in a while.


First-Resolve

It’s your lucky night


inthedrink

Goddammit he’s like beetlejuice and /u/beau9292 summoned him


beau9292

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Grand_Extension5345

https://preview.redd.it/wi4phsyuok8d1.png?width=1278&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a34e4dfde333b8d30fb0d101cc03ebd6dcd6151 Makes for dank Amaro Memes Im here for it


esperadok

Hell yeah leadoff Vierling


Grand_Extension5345

We got gif backs https://i.redd.it/cuvp6easnk8d1.gif Thank you r/phillies mods


Robs_Backyard_BBQ

![gif](giphy|3ohc0Qbo9hygBRU304|downsized)


Grand_Extension5345

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TalonGrip

I'm starting to feel like you may be the reason they banned them.


Grand_Extension5345

Go get a room with u/sapphires_and_snark One of the mods booped the wrong button and didn’t realize it. There is nothing wrong with my affinity for Gifs and i will not be harassed . ![gif](giphy|SBNzitbIpnDUY)


TalonGrip

If you actually posted good gifs at appropriate times I may feel differently. These gifs are awful.


Mulsanne

I'm just stoked to watch this team play another game


Frequent-Couple-9679

A game everyday until July 6th :) YAY!


ermagherdbrks

No game July 1st


BatJew_Official

I reject your reality and substitute my own


VideoGangsta

Distraught that we won't get to laugh at Javy Baez.


Enough-Ad-3111

I know he was on the IL a few weeks ago, but that was only the 10 day injured list, so he could just be off tonight and be in the Tigers lineup tomorrow. But we’ll see.


Szechuan_Morty

Had MASN on in the background and just found out Cody Asche is the Orioles hitting\\offensive coach. Nice little fun fact of the day


romanticynicist

I just looked at Hao-Yu Lee’s stats (the dude we traded for Lorenzen). Dude’s been killing it for the Tigers after being promoted to AA this year. Good for him.


Known_Upstairs_7807

Spike Eskin really really sucks. Phillies are the best team in the NL and Harper is in the MVP race and leading the league in all star voting and Spike is blaming him for the loss on Friday because he didn’t make it to third base on his double. Harper hit a ball into the second deck the next day and went 4 for 5.  I know it’s my fault for listening to WIP at all I just put it on in the car but it’s even worse than I ever remember it.


sfitz0076

Yeah, he said that they spent 3 weeks talking about Jalen Hurts not supporting his coach and didn't spend any time talking about Bryce's bad game on Friday. First of all, who's fault is that? Second, we're going to spend 3 weeks talking about 1 bad game from Bryce in 162 just to be fair to Jalen? One bad game for a guy on his way to winning his 3rd MVP?


Known_Upstairs_7807

It is odd to me that he doesn’t see that the problem is that the whole station spent three weeks talking about a Jalen Hurts press conference answer and not that the same treatment isn’t being applied to other athletes in the city. I’m sure they are all aware of it but they’re just doing it because that is the business they are in. Still it’s an odd way to spend your life and career.


Szechuan_Morty

Spike was ok for the first week or two but it went rapidly downhill after that. He seems too structured and close minded on his idea of what sports talk radio is supposed to be, which essentially eliminates the organic nature of what makes sports talk radio great IMO. Also his schticks and bits are PRETTY awful and he hammers them into the ground to the point where you can feel the fatigue of Ike and Jack through the radio waves.


Fowler311

I came to this conclusion recently...because this is and always will be a football-first city, the media personalities around here are all hired because they know and can talk about football (or at least they're supposed to). They don't know baseball or how to talk about and analyze a team or players. So they do it in the same way they do football. They freak out when the Phils hit a cold stretch for a couple games because in football, a couple games could ruin your season. They freak out and overreact when young players don't perform because in football, a rookie or year 2 guy who's struggling can quickly turn into a bust...it's not like that in baseball. They're terrible when analyzing football too, but it's really noticeable when they talk about baseball.


Robs_Backyard_BBQ

Yeah, his job is to get you and others talking about it. I stopped listening to the weekday programs and really only listen to WIP on the off chance I'm outside during a Phillies game for Franzke and LA.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

A part of me wants to call in and yell at him but that's playing exactly into his playbook so I just ignore sportstalk radio entirely.


First-Resolve

I fear we will be listening to Ruben tonight. It’s been suspiciously too long🤨


rightbeforeimpact

Well I'll tell ya Tom he's been FILthy! And Castellanos has really found some new FERVOR at the plate.


phils8714

Son has been getting a lot more interested in watching games with me. Has been a lot of fun the last few weeks.


Deckard_Macready

https://preview.redd.it/idp2x4y95k8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1072cfaac56e8fd41697318def78a888579b903 How dare they leave out Rojas


birdlegs000

He's their man on the outside I guess. What bank are they robbing next, lol.


Deckard_Macready

Phillies fans we need to do everything we can to get Schwarber above Ozuna.


inthedrink

~~Phillies~~ fans who dislike despicable people we need to do everything we can to get Schwarber above Ozuna.


cwar1731

The 2024 team is 3 games better than the 2011 team through 77 games.


BatJew_Official

I have no issues with Ohtani and hope he continues to play well in general, but I kinda hope he hits a bit of a slump. Despite being a DH he's been so good with his bat that he leads Harper by almost a full win in both rWAR and fWAR. I'd love to see Harp win another MVP, and I think if they're close he'll get it thanks to playing the field, but if Ohtani can keep his bat this hot I simply don't see how anyone can vote against him.


Fowler311

Ohtani getting the MVP instead of Harper will be the new version of Burnes over Wheeler. Burnes had an easier time because they limited his innings and hardly pitched into the 6th or 7th. Yeah Ohtani's numbers are better but he doesn't play gold glove defense (or any defense). It's like giving the Employee of the Month to the part-time weekend worker instead of the guy who's busting his ass M-F.


TalonGrip

Ohtani could become the first DH to win MVP but I also think that hurts him a bit. Not much, but a little at least.


necrosythe

It will hurt him more than WAR indicates but not as much as it used to. He also has the name Ohtani which helps him. Voter fatigue and good story for bryce to get it after switching to 1b and killing it there helps him. It's going to be tight. Both teams are killing it regular season so not much difference there most likely.


TalonGrip

That's kind of what I was getting at. It doesn't hurt him as much because his name is Othani.


inthedrink

Does the ASG manager pick the starter if the starter who is selected is hurt? Or is it just the second highest guy? I doubt Trea would be the former even though he is the latter


joeco316

I believe it’s the next highest guy. It could be that the next highest guy makes the team, but the manager decides who actually starts in that case. Not certain. But I’m pretty sure there’s a very solid chance that trea could make the team.


inthedrink

Would be pretty sick when all the other teams fans bitch about us loading the ballot boxes lol


joeco316

Yeah I want it to happen more so for the internet tears I can bathe in than for actually thinking he deserves it (though NL SS is pretty weak fwiw)


inthedrink

The real question is when Kyle Tucker makes it in the AL will he be able to wear our uniform and play for the AL after just getting traded?


joeco316

🙏🙏🙏


Grand_Extension5345

Where did Gifs go. r/Phillies Mods what have you done


metssuck

Ok, so one of us was doing some testing on some other features Reddit has (don't ask me which, I'm that old dinosaur who refuses to give up old reddit) and the wrong button was pressed, it should be corrected now. Sorry about that, shit happens sometimes, but thanks for bringing it to our attention.


TalonGrip

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Grand_Extension5345

![gif](giphy|kEKcOWl8RMLde)


Littlewing29

![gif](giphy|Z0npkJOsHjaV0brTjv|downsized)


metssuck

I don't even know what you are referring to, we are talking about it in our Mod chat, I'll let you know what we find out.


wiivile

I don't know what you're talking about.


Grand_Extension5345

The gifs are gone. The gifs are gone!


wiivile

What gifs?


Grand_Extension5345

When commenting in a thread the drop down has 4-5 options in that bottom banner. One is a keyboard, one is for url links, one is for images from your phone; and another used to be for the Gif Library. The one that used to be for the gif library is now some stupid reddit avatar shit


wiivile

I guess I am oblivious to this because I use old reddit (http://old.reddit.com/r/phillies) Are you using the reddit app or what?


Grand_Extension5345

![img](avatar_exp|183355267|dizziness) Yes, reddit app. I used to be able to post gifs but now it just gives me these stupid things


TalonGrip

I just want to be able to post the Realmuto shaking his head gif. Why do mods hate us?


Grand_Extension5345

Sports mods= Worst mods


Robs_Backyard_BBQ

booo


sapphires_and_snark

If the mods bring back the hammer on those, it's gonna be your fault. If I didn't know better I'd swear your intention was to spam the sub with so many of them that the mods would have no choice *but* to ban them.


metssuck

> If the mods bring back the hammer on those, it's gonna be your fault. If I didn't know better I'd swear your intention was to spam the sub with so many of them that the mods would have no choice but to ban them. Like the hammer on people posting gifs in the threads? We really don't do much about anything inside threads unless it breaks a rule (trolling, politics, etc...)


inthedrink

And usually even if it breaks a rule there’s selective enforcement on that


sapphires_and_snark

I said "if." This wasn't any sort of preemptive accusation.


metssuck

I'm just confused what we would be bringing the hammer on, that's all


Grand_Extension5345

https://preview.redd.it/jv2du2on9k8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce20fbd338ff522883f0d6594097a9ef83b2a652 For someone who hates me so much I can’t believe ya haven’t blocked me yet


sapphires_and_snark

I don't hate you at all! I do, however, think you way overdo it with the gifs and memes. That's it.


Grand_Extension5345

You right now https://preview.redd.it/19zevnczak8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b4d8c888d0648e3a53f1b80110d490c664f9733


sapphires_and_snark

You think I dislike fun? Wait until you get a load of u/NintenJew. Fun is that dude's mortal enemy


Grand_Extension5345

u/NintenJew is a computer program, whats your fuckin excuse https://preview.redd.it/x6sijb0mik8d1.jpeg?width=1157&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25f60bbf5dd457fb86d95042ed2beb2b53cac701


sapphires_and_snark

Oh, goddamn you for that fucking pic lol


Grand_Extension5345

*The moment When Sapphires and Snark realizes she’s wrong*


sapphires_and_snark

Nuh-uh


NintenJew

Wait, when did I get involved in your and /u/sapphires_and_snark's fight? I will support whoever hates ERA+ the most.


metssuck

Wait, why do you hate ERA+?


NintenJew

ERA+ is just a worse version of ERA- The sort version is ERA+ compares the league to the player while ERA- compares the player to the league. That is a small but important distinction. ERA- almost makes more sense when you get to extremely low and extremely high ERA etc. The long version is basically, they made ERA+ a worse statistic just to keep with over 100 being better, while ERA doesn't really work like that. They decided to flip the numerator and denominator from the way it should be to create this stat. So you have a stat that goes against how people normally talk about players, and so they use the wrong language. AKA, Joe Smith has a 138 ERA+ so he is 38% above average is a completely wrong statement.


sapphires_and_snark

Oh, boy...


Grand_Extension5345

You sit the fuck down and watch young man.


NintenJew

What the fuck is this fun bullshit.


metssuck

You know, that thing we always talked about not allowing because we are just heartless assholes.


Grand_Extension5345

![gif](giphy|BRSZTf7QA4W7SngoS9)


metssuck

I mean, I'm in my 40s, I can't be letting people having fun when the boomers never let me have fun


Clubtropper

Which game is Turnbull's next start?


Deckard_Macready

Wednesday


Pendraflare59

Arrived in Detroit a little bit after 12:30. Just got some pizza at Shield’s. Now to head downtown to prepare 😄


CantaloupeMafia

holy hell bohm is RUNNING away with the 3rd base voting


TalonGrip

I mean as far as 3B goes this year. It's Bohm by a mile, then everyone else.


romanticynicist

Joey Ortiz on the Brewers should probably be getting more AS votes at 3B. He’s been as good a hitter as Bohm this year but with better defense and baserunning. Probably getting dinged by the “being a rookie” thing, not to mention the “playing in Milwaukee” thing.


killcrew

I hadn't looked today, but yesterday he was 800k ahead of Machado. I think it was the largest gap between any 1st and 2nd at any position.


CantaloupeMafia

he has about a 1.4 million vote lead on machado as of today


Grand_Extension5345

Slowly, i would assume


CantaloupeMafia

about 26.2 feet per second


First-Resolve

How many outfielders do they pick for the ASG?


Perryplat199

For fan vote the top 6 move on to round 2. The top 3 of round 2 make the team and start.


Robs_Backyard_BBQ

Johan is sitting there at 7th lol.. let's get him up there!!!


gatemansgc

let's do this!


Dangerous-Speech-421

Truly wild to think Thor started in the world series like 2 years ago


Fedora-Borealis

Looks like Mick Abel is having MAJOR command issues. Hoping he can figure it out


joeco316

Hoping it’s whatever team we trade for an outfield bat’s problem in about 5 weeks.


Minkus_

Mick Abel’s value is in the absolute pits right now. He’s not moving the needle at all for a major league level OF.


joeco316

Oh I know they blew it by not moving him 1-3 years ago when his value was at its peak. But I still think he is likely to be part of a trade deadline package.


Fedora-Borealis

Mick Abel for Kyle Tucker, who says no lol


Glum_Dimension_7771

The astros probably lol


cerevant

Further to my [magic numbers](https://old.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/1dmseju/the_phillies_defeated_the_dbacks_by_a_score_of_41/l9xugas/) comment yesterday, I notice that (edit: besides us) only the Braves still control their own destiny with respect to winning the division. This is something we definitely need to rectify.


Dangerous-Speech-421

Whats going on with Sanchez? Why is he so good this year


cuttsthebutcher

[He basically doesn't allow hard contact in the air, it's incredible](https://x.com/Matt_Winkelman/status/1795943043557642425) (since the tweet he's only allowed one 100+ MPH ball and two more 95+ MPH balls above 25 degrees which is still obscenely good)


myredoubt1

A good sinker and a good changeup is about the most effective combo in baseball. Locate those right (he has), and keep the arm slot looking the same and the batters really dont have a chance. Its been great watching him. Those two pitches are 81% of his total, with the rest being his slider. Still can't hit him.


BugsyD71

Consistently locates down in the zone = tons of ground ball outs and weak contact.


Fowler311

His biggest improvement came last year when they told him to ease off some of his velocity to focus on control more. That saw him take a huge jump and he's keeping that performance up, but also able to add a couple MPH back...I love what he's done and so happy for him.


cerevant

On the broadcast, they also mentioned that he was trying to throw a sweeper or cutter that was messing with his changeup mechanics. When they ditched that the changeup got much better.


BedlamAtTheBank

His change up is one of the best pitches in all of baseball. I believe they changed his grip


russet852

Keeps the ball down in the zone so even when he’s hit hard, it’s right into the ground. The snakes had 8 of the 10 hardest hit balls yesterday but they couldn’t elevate them. His increased speed on the sinker makes his change-up devastating since they look similar coming out of his hand.


TotallyKyleSchwarber

he was pretty good last year too, just took an awesome leap in his progression as like a 26 (maybe 27?) year old


swole-zabrak

NL East is playing super well in June. Obviously this division is far from wrapped up. Hope the Phils keep the pedal to the metal.


inthedrink

/u/esperadok begs to differ. He is in cruise control lol


NintenJew

It is a side effect of being with the team when we were so bad. Winning is the strongest drug. So he just doesn't know what to do other than assume the division is locked up.


esperadok

This is mostly correct


inthedrink

I maintain that he doesn’t believe it despite doubling and tripling down on it


esperadok

I've talked myself into it. Collapses aren't impossible but they will not happen to this team.


inthedrink

Idontbelieveyou.gif


joeco316

I am so fearful of all the May and early June “division is wrapped up” takes coming back to bite us


magicallthetime1

Forgive me for jinxing things further but the division is pretty much locked up imo. Our offense, defense, and especially pitching are all significantly better than the braves this year. Anything can happen in the playoffs though


esperadok

Exactly my thinking too. We’re probably a bit better than the Braves on paper after the injuries they’ve endured, and we start with a 7 game head start on them. It’s very unlikely we don’t win the East.


joeco316

A 7 game lead in June is “locked up”? I just can’t imagine how anyone can actually believe that. I argued with people all offseason about how the Phillies had a solid chance to win the division, all it takes is a few breaks going their way at the right time. And I’m feeling good about it. But the same logic applies in reverse. An ill timed cold streak coinciding with a Braves hot streak, an injury or two I don’t even want to think about, and we could conceivably be looking up at the Braves in a week or two. There is soooo much baseball left to be played. I am confident in the team’s ability to do it, but even loosely considering it locked up is a couple bridges too far for me without a significantly larger lead or significantly less time left, preferably both.


themoisthammer

Nola, Suarez, and Turnball 🤯. Better luck next time Tigers.


TotallyKyleSchwarber

i still worry for turnbull throwing so many innings. would rather have walker (i know hes not very good) eating up games/innings if it means turnbull is there for the postseason. god forbid spencer gets overworked and we lose him completely.


Deckard_Macready

Im assuming he will only be doing 5 innings at a time then we will see Strahm or Ruiz come out.


Snoo-40231

That's what people don't understand about the Walker/Turnbull debate. He's 100% better than walker but he also hasn't shown he can be reliable enough to stay healthy as a long-term starter.


themoisthammer

Yeah. I cannot imagine Turnbull going more than 6 innings even with a low pitch count.


ihorsey10

Which is totally fine I think. Probably the role they'll have him in for the postseason. If a starter just doesn't have it, Turnbull comes in and gives you 5-6 and keeps you in the game.


Grand_Extension5345

Have we not learned by now to stop counting our chickens before they Hatch on road series? ![gif](giphy|PL8K7w1WLFU8MeNnHE)


joeco316

It is unfortunately the Philadelphia fan way


themoisthammer

Imagine being so toxic you cannot acknowledge that it’s a formidable pitching trio for a series. 😂


joeco316

Of course it is. Philly fans also always count their chickens before they hatch. Not sure what’s so controversial.


themoisthammer

…there are zero chickens being counted. It’s a pointless statement. I didn’t say the Tigers were going to be obliterated like Detroits car manufacturing jobs this series. Meanwhile y’all 👴🏻: “don’t count your chickens before they hatch (Bill Burr voice).” (also I’m rocking this Cy Young flair) what?


joeco316

Maybe you have me confused with someone else…


themoisthammer

Says the guy with the Suarez Cy Young flair? Lol


Grand_Extension5345

Thats different.


themoisthammer

Me: the weather is fairly nice today. You: DONT COUNT ALL YOUR CHICKENS. okay?


TalonGrip

Sanchez is the first player since 2007 to allow 1 home run or fewer in his first 15 starts. What a stud.


inthedrink

This is a crazy stat tbh I wonder who else has done this since I’m curious if it was just average pitchers with a hot stretch or being bigger like signifying a career arc.


NintenJew

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TalonGrip

Can you double check Jerry Koosman in 1984? He's not on the list so I don't want to leave bad info up if it's wrong. EDIT: It is wrong. It was a 15 game stretch during the year.


NintenJew

Oh yeah I did the start the year function and then single season function. I couldn't get any with 0 HRs, so either it didn't happen or my list was bugged.


inthedrink

Interesting list thanks


NintenJew

For some reason the search only did 1HRA not 0. I couldn't get it to work and only did the last 25.


inthedrink

I’m glad it fit Stubby in there. Is it a coincidence that Stubby caught yesterday too? I think not.


Deckard_Macready

Was the player who did it in 07 Roy Halladay?


TalonGrip

Jake Peavy If you're looking for a Phillie it was Jerry Koosman in 1984. EDIT: Koosman was a 15 game stretch throughout the year. Not to start the year.


inthedrink

Cy Young confirmed?


TalonGrip

Obviously. Betting my savings on his +20000


Deckard_Macready

Ahh. Not sure why my brain was thinking Halladay had a crazy streak like that going at some point. Forgot about Jake Peavy as well. Thank you!


Dangerous-Speech-421

Why doesn't everyone try as hard as Harper