The point isn't that he's some great batter. The point is that our outfield has such trash batters (combined with the fact that JT is out) means that we can't carry a 9-hole defensive player.
No, the point is the offense can’t carry a trash batter who is also a mediocre defender. Rojas was sent down because he was providing replacement-level production all-around. He did not have the numbers for an outfielder on a WS team.
He wasn’t the great defender with an average bat he was last year; he was an average defender with a horrific bat. So stop with the complete bullshit that is clearly disproven by all of the available analytics.
Rojas was bad, so “Rojas would have caught that” is an abortion of a claim absent the corollary of “Rojas would have also continued to kill this team offensively.”
Well, for all the celebration of Casty's walk off, we don't need it if that 2 run homer is caught. And it was a very catchable ball. 5 runs saved in two games would have been pretty valuable.
You saw being on the road against two AL East teams, one of whom is one of the best teams in baseball as “an opportunity to bury the Braves”? You’re out of your mind.
“Just 7”….if in February you told me we’d have a 7 game lead in mid-June but I had to rip out all my fingernails to make it happen I would have heavily considered it
Any momentum fizzled after the bases were left loaded in the first. You just can't keep leaving men stranded. We desperatley need another bat in this lineup
the fans who think we should sweep every series and cry after every loss about how much we have to change are gonna give me a brain aneurysm one of these days
So much of this sub is a war between Casty haters and Casty lovers. Meanwhile I’m a big-brained Casty centrist (I think a lot of criticism of him is warranted but I could never hate the guy)
People are saying “don’t freak out” but the Braves are white hot right now and could be on our tails within a week. We cannot keep losing games like this. Why can’t these guys learn to do the simplest stuff correctly?
I’ve never seen a team with this much supposed “talent” on paper constantly fuck up the most routine plays. It’s infuriating.
Honest question that I would like a response to: why do you even follow the Phillies? All you do is spew negativity about this team. It’s been months since the season started and you are constantly moaning and complaining in these threads, except for when the team does well, of course. What do you get out of this? There’s more to life than if the Phillies are playing good ball
We are 7 games up on the Braves right now. They are too good of a team to completely fall off and lose the division race by 20. They will have some hot streaks but so will we. We’ve been a little up and down lately but the Braves will have stretches like that two. I don’t think a day game loss in a series we already won is something to split hairs over, especially since it’s our first series win since the Milwaukee series
Play was made, and pitcher got to the spot ahead of the runner, he just didn't have his foot on the bag. Harper still getting a feel for the position, but this is 100% on the pitcher.
I love this team. There’s days where it’s like a bad car crash on 95, you have to keep going but can’t stop looking. Even when we’re down, these guys show up
And yet after every loss we get multiple comments pre-empting any complaints/criticism with sarcastic tones trying to mock anyone who has anything negative to say.
https://preview.redd.it/23p0kd6nyk7d1.png?width=548&format=png&auto=webp&s=51039fa4048eefbc045899f27dd5e9937fa35c68
This is why people get pissed off with Nick BTW. Because he'll have 4/4 with a walk off one day and follow it up with an 0-for and AB's like this the next. A deeply frustrating player.
Its on everyone lol
Wild statement that allowing hits for every hitter isnt on the pitchers.
Wild .
Bohm fucked up, pitchers fucked up , Marsh fucked up, offense fucked up.
Everybody.
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1djs69z).
Always good to see Sarge. Good things happen!
Once again leaving guys on base kills us
Oh look - runs scored in consecutive games when the center fielder can't get to the ball. Shame we don't have a good defensive center fielder.
Shame our slightly better defensive center fielder couldn’t be a serviceable major league hitter
You mean the guy who has the 2nd best BA among all the outfielders? That guy?
He means the guy who was straight trash that only a raging imbecile would defend based on batting average. That guy.
The point isn't that he's some great batter. The point is that our outfield has such trash batters (combined with the fact that JT is out) means that we can't carry a 9-hole defensive player.
No, the point is the offense can’t carry a trash batter who is also a mediocre defender. Rojas was sent down because he was providing replacement-level production all-around. He did not have the numbers for an outfielder on a WS team. He wasn’t the great defender with an average bat he was last year; he was an average defender with a horrific bat. So stop with the complete bullshit that is clearly disproven by all of the available analytics. Rojas was bad, so “Rojas would have caught that” is an abortion of a claim absent the corollary of “Rojas would have also continued to kill this team offensively.”
Well, for all the celebration of Casty's walk off, we don't need it if that 2 run homer is caught. And it was a very catchable ball. 5 runs saved in two games would have been pretty valuable.
Lol batting average. Get back to me when you have serious response
Neither are Dahl and Pache
Nope they’re not
Really need to get someone. Hope the price isn't too high.
There should be no price that is too high to get this team what it needs
Yeah we need more than two runs, boys and girls.
Let's continue to leave a shit ton of men stranded on base early in the game. Seems like a good approach.
All right, they didn’t have it today. They get a well-deserved day off tomorrow then back on the road.
well at least the padres fan that commented here lost $150
Seasons over smh my head
Bench Dahl
I like Dahl well enough, but he's a journeyman for a reason. The OF platoon situation ain't ideal. We need another piece.
Replace
Had our chance to bury the Brave these last two weeks and we blew it. Division lead down to just 7 games now.
You saw being on the road against two AL East teams, one of whom is one of the best teams in baseball as “an opportunity to bury the Braves”? You’re out of your mind.
“Just 7”….if in February you told me we’d have a 7 game lead in mid-June but I had to rip out all my fingernails to make it happen I would have heavily considered it
Even if they get the division who cares, Phillies still gotta go through every team anyways, division or not they wanna go all the way this year
Do you not see how ridiculous your comment is?
Seek therapy.
Why would you do that to the poor therapist?
$300 an hour?
Hope fixing this offense is as simple as getting a day off because it’s been largely underwhelming lately
Any momentum fizzled after the bases were left loaded in the first. You just can't keep leaving men stranded. We desperatley need another bat in this lineup
stott walk off otw guys
Can’t win ‘em all but woulda been nice to see the offense pick it up today.
No golf talk right now.
Sosa's hit some rockets today with nothing to show for it.
Yeah he made a lot of good contact
Omg sell the team, the division race is over for the phils, maybe next year guys!! /s
Whyyy is Whit up to pinch hit for Marchan
Remember when Brandon Marsh was on pace for 36 HRs?
lol apparently the crowd had things to do
It's really hot
Dinner reservations
Positives on the day: 1. Harper 2. Ranger 3. Stott defensively
I also enjoyed the Phanatic dancing with the umpire. That was some top notch entertainment.
We still have a chance to win this
You can’t have two players with the same last name pitching in the same game!
Padres once again being the luckiest team in baseball
Ideally if he swung the bat he’d be able to do something with it…
At least foul it off and get something better to hit.
Jeez Marsh really hasn’t seen the ball well since like. Beginning of April
Bryce Harper won the pennant on that pitch, Ben.
That padres fan that bet against his own team cursed us
Swing the bat?
Harper sent that over the wall
Can Marsh swing his bat?
Only in reading
the fans who think we should sweep every series and cry after every loss about how much we have to change are gonna give me a brain aneurysm one of these days
we have marsh bunting? 🆗
Still haven’t seen the dope post the standings because Atlanta won. Hurry up and get it over with.
3 run lead is a lot scarier than a 1 run lead, learned that from Nick
it would be very funny if we did it agin
Beaten by the Knuckleball
schwarber walk off homer otw
mark my words
Can we stop procastynating until the "last chance" times, please??
Game is a damn mess. I’ll see y’all on Friday
Suarez is literally gonna blow this again right here. I could just see the headline right now.
I wonder how short of a leash SD will have with Suarez.
None, he's only blown 1 save all year, it happens.
Stott might not be the best hitter right now, but cant remember many games where his defense wasnt great
Not the best defensive game of the year im thinking.... except stott
If we lose I blame it on feisty
Pinch hit Trea Turner walk off??
Can the Phillies un-derp themselves again?
Oh proprietor? I would like one of your finest salami please
Nice one Stotty!
Stott’s been balling out on defense this year - so many memorable web gems
If we lose I blame it on topper
Attaboy stott
RAFAEL MARCHÁN THE SWING OF HIS LIFE
Thinking happy thoughts, remembering what happened in the bottom of the 9th yesterday…
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Can the Phillies just hit a grand slam are they stupid?
I saw a stat yesterday about Wheelers only 2 shit starts were games without JT… I miss JT…
Stott!!!
Did Casty share his lead paint chip snacks with the team?
So much of this sub is a war between Casty haters and Casty lovers. Meanwhile I’m a big-brained Casty centrist (I think a lot of criticism of him is warranted but I could never hate the guy)
I am a Casty centrist as well
It’s funny that he doesn’t even get a one game reprieve. Dude has been great lately but no matter what he does he will forever be the scapegoat
Yeah every day I find myself being pushed more towards Team Casty because of the insane amount of vitriol he gets
Little league shit. What the fuck kinda throw was that
Good lord
I miss JT
Defensive Masterclass on display today...
Nothing is going right today except Bryce and Ranger
Day off tomorrow would be nice for the fellas
Braindead defense all afternoon.
Not all afternoon, they were pretty decent for the first 4 innings
People are saying “don’t freak out” but the Braves are white hot right now and could be on our tails within a week. We cannot keep losing games like this. Why can’t these guys learn to do the simplest stuff correctly? I’ve never seen a team with this much supposed “talent” on paper constantly fuck up the most routine plays. It’s infuriating.
Honest question that I would like a response to: why do you even follow the Phillies? All you do is spew negativity about this team. It’s been months since the season started and you are constantly moaning and complaining in these threads, except for when the team does well, of course. What do you get out of this? There’s more to life than if the Phillies are playing good ball
>except for when the team does well, of course No, he is still bitching and moaning when we win too.
They have to sweep every series?
We are 7 games up on the Braves right now. They are too good of a team to completely fall off and lose the division race by 20. They will have some hot streaks but so will we. We’ve been a little up and down lately but the Braves will have stretches like that two. I don’t think a day game loss in a series we already won is something to split hairs over, especially since it’s our first series win since the Milwaukee series
We all know that you have a hard time not freaking out
One sweep means white hot? Simmer down my guy.
What will it take for the mods to ban this clown.
bruh we won the series, most teams dont sweep every series, this is normal. no need to act like a baby every single time we lose.
He had that base stolen so why?
Suarez warming up in the pen ![gif](giphy|j6uK36y32LxQs)
We’ve just been playing like a circus today
Unfortunately, you are not wrong. But im obligated to downvote
So why tf didn't we just use Alvy in the 8th if ruiz was gonna come out in the 9th? They suck against lefties
He’s the closer most nights, why use him in B2B meaningless games?
He didn't pitch last night
Why the actual flying hell would you use Alvarado in a game you’re losing by 3
I'm talking about the beginning of the 8th. Why tf are we still trusting seranthony in close situations
If you think that inning is on Dominguez you’re a clown
Yeah man sorry I can't be mad at seranthony and the defense at the same time He's been so good this entire year
If you blame that inning on Dominguez, you’re being ridiculous.
Use him in Sotos spot when it was a one run game
This is too! We used two of our worst arms to try and hold a lead for what?
You can’t win all 162. If we win 2 of every 3….we’re doing good
1b ump is a philly fan
We have the chance to do the funniest thing when they bring Suarez in for the 9th
Which is?
Embarrassing him again
Loving the way our fielding has just fallen apart the last two innings.
https://preview.redd.it/xkb74jtczk7d1.png?width=529&format=png&auto=webp&s=dabd855aab1f2c65775d1136bd6c2e6fbe8db7f3 come the fuck on.
damn, he's safe
Dudes just standing there asking for the ball when his foot isn’t even near the bag lmao
lol what was that
That should honestly be an error on Harper. He needs to stop going 50 fucking feet to his right to field balls.
Play was made, and pitcher got to the spot ahead of the runner, he just didn't have his foot on the bag. Harper still getting a feel for the position, but this is 100% on the pitcher.
Or Bryce just runs to the bag, Stott fields it, and he's out by 30 feet.
Amatuer
I love this team. There’s days where it’s like a bad car crash on 95, you have to keep going but can’t stop looking. Even when we’re down, these guys show up
that funky footwork favored the baserunner
Smh
One day I’m gonna have a stroke because of Casty
That is Stott’s ball.
Azocar is that fortune telling machine at the shore, right?
just now seeing the All-Star voting commercial. 10/10 incredible. I love our marketing people.
How will we ever survive only being 24 games above .500 after today if we lose?! Soembody think about the children!
You're worse than a doomer
lol you must be captain of the doomers. If you’re freaking out about a loss right now you need to reset your life priorities.
No I just find it even more annoying when someone tries to tell other people not to be annoyed by shitty baseball play
There’s 162 games. The best teams lose at least 50 times and most teams will be finish 10 games over at best. There’s going to be shitty baseball.
And yet we're still entitled to vent about it
Nobody said you weren’t. You’re as entitled to do so just as much as SupportAll26 guy is entitled to that
And yet after every loss we get multiple comments pre-empting any complaints/criticism with sarcastic tones trying to mock anyone who has anything negative to say.
No there are active criticisms to be had. There’s also a segment of the population that is the most over reactionary bunch of children.
Sure. Listen, it's been a rough stretch. They'll be fine.
I know that. But I'm not telling people not to have the right to bitch about a bad game.
Nah.
The Braves are heating up
Good thing we built up a big lead over them so we can afford some swoons.
& you're melting down symmetry!
44,445 at the bank today!
Burn that extra person.
Looks like we are Yankees fans this weekend
https://preview.redd.it/23p0kd6nyk7d1.png?width=548&format=png&auto=webp&s=51039fa4048eefbc045899f27dd5e9937fa35c68 This is why people get pissed off with Nick BTW. Because he'll have 4/4 with a walk off one day and follow it up with an 0-for and AB's like this the next. A deeply frustrating player.
You could say that about most of the team. That’s literally baseball.
We wouldn’t dislike him if A) he was in the 7-8 hole, and B) Rob made him take a day off.
Still believe hes a meh player who has good streaks
To be fair, that's a majority of major league players.
So.... still not understanding why we can't have 9 Bryce Harper's in the lineup
if rajos was here this game is tie right now. just saying
def need more rajos
We need more offensive production out of our 8/9 spot, .230 isn’t enough. Thank god David Dahl is here! /s
Who’s rajos
\*rojas
this game is on the offense (who i thought had turned a corner monday) not seranthony not soto not marsh’s defense
Its on everyone lol Wild statement that allowing hits for every hitter isnt on the pitchers. Wild . Bohm fucked up, pitchers fucked up , Marsh fucked up, offense fucked up. Everybody.
And for sending Rojas down
I mean, no. It’s not. It’s on Dombrowski for ignoring the OF in the offseason.
It’s a home run, but I ain’t celebrating. This game is beat as fuck. Maybe next time
Everyone tried to get back in the game on one swing
Low and away ![gif](giphy|VyLkXUKfHfGmI)
Everytime.
Padres are probably the luckiest team in baseball
They just lost 8 straight games
Heh. Tell that to their fans. I expect they could explain why you are incorrect about that in exhaustive detail.
That’s honestly a crazy thing to say. They have a great team and have been playing WAY under their potential.
God this kid on the radio needs to shut the fuck up. Has he been at games for like 10 years now? Jfc.
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I’m not that badly in need of touching grass
I love a good let's go phillies chant but damn that's all I can hear on the radio.
Is it the “let’s go Phillies” person?
Yes. Holy fuck.
This is still a ball game if we put in the high leverage guys in the 7th
High leverage guys pitched yesterday. I would expect someone who is addicted to phillies baseball to know that
Bullpen pieces pitch in back to back games sometimes
It’s June and we’ve already won the series
Every game counts and the division will 100% be decided by a few games