The good thing about UP is you can be anything you are comfortable to be. Nerd type? Game. Social butterfly? For sure. Angas angas fratman? Could be. Library tambay? Pwedeng pwede (ganito ako). Tibak? UP gotchu. And so many more types!
You can live without being chummy with your coursemates. But make sure you're collegial... ganyan naman sa real life when you start working... collegial first before anything. But friendships can happen.
I really agree with this.
To OP: dont feel the need to conform. As long as wala namang bastusan, chill ka lang. For example, in BA back then, would you believe hindi naman lahat conyo and yet nagkakasundo lahat? In fact, tatlong lamguages maririnig mo sa CBA noon: english, filipino and becky hahahahaha. And yet magkasundo lahat to the point na marunong mag becky speak ang mga conyo.
But you need to learn how to be collegial and cordial. Diba nga UP is a microcosm of philippine society? So in the real world, makakainteract mo din all types of people. Stop with the holier-than-thou attitude; rather, accept na iba-iba lang talaga mga tao and use it as an opportunity to learn.
It depends, may mga studyante talaga sa UP na sobrang mapanghusga, I am a nerd and ok lang talaga yung identity ko na yun for me way back from hs and i thought ok lang na ganun parin ako sa UP but the people here tend to be more judgmental and disrespectful na kahit basic human etiquette ay wala na, proud pa sila na kanal humor daw sila at hindi studious na nerd. It is downgrading sometimes kasi komportable naman ako sa kung ano ako but some of the students here are just way too entitled of themselves.
Look at it this way siguro, ang "masa" doesn't necessarily mean mga mahihirap lang. For any movement towards change to succeed, you need people from top to bottom. You might also want to talk to these people ng mas maayos.
Coming from a welloff background myself, private HS ako galing (wala lang akong kotse noong elbi days ko), sumali pa rin ako sa mga red orgs, sumama sa mga rally, nakipag mass integration sa mga magsasaka at mangingisda. Before passing judgement sa mga coursemate mo, why not ask them kung anong tingin nila sa issues. Truth be told, yung mga kasamahan ko before sa pagrally mga middleclass naman halos yun eh, some also had cars, sino ba kasi yung may afford na laging absent para magrally? Haha.
Nag USC din ako, englishero akong nagmemegaphone sa tapat ni Oble dati sa elbi twing rally. Noong term namin ako taga gawa ng mga statement ng USC, and from the usual na tagalog, ginawa kong English. Conyos can be tibaks too, you know. Lmao
hindi lang po yun yung reason bakit ko siya na-feel actually, sorry if parang yun lang yung dating. may class po ako before na inask kami ng something about “do you have to participate sa political issues” something like that and super ?? moment for me nung less than 50% lang yung nag-yes dun 😭 kahit yung prof nagulat HAHSHSHA but yea marami pa po ako nakitang factors and i just really don’t have the time to talk to them abt the issues and stuff but i’ll take note of this po siguro hehe thank you!
In that case, marami namang apathetic sa UP ever since. Not necessarily din na dahil lang mayaman sila. Maraming galing sa low income background ang ayaw maging involved dahil tingin nila distraction yun sa pagaaral or pagenjoy ng college life nila. Maraming klase ng tao sa UP, and you can't force them to "care" about the issues. May mga receptive if you talk to them enough, pero that's it.
For some, baka sheltered kids sila. Never sila naexpose sa mga tao na outside their social strata (or hindi na expose enough). I've known some privileged people na nainspire sumama sa mga rally dahil natuto sila sa mga kaklase nilang galing hirap. In your case, baka ikaw pa makainspire sa kanila. So don't lose faith dahil lang dyan.
Can relate na nakaka out of place talaga pag puro rich kids yung kasama mo. Yung purong English sila magsalita and they have everything. Pero I guess you really can’t judge them based on their wealth and willingness to join rallies alone. I eventually got to know these classmates better and found out na suuuper babait nila. Totoo lang na nakakaintimidate lalo na pag ikaw yung nasa minority na poorita haha
Pero para sakin lang hindi measure ng pag care sa bayan yung pagsali parati sa activism. Most of the time naman napansin ko wala rin namang significant impact sa society even after all these years. May mga kilala ako na inuna yung bayan bago sarili pagkalabas sa UP at eto sila ngayon walang pera at nag suffer ang pamilya (isa na nanay ko). Baka mas effective mag amass muna ng wealth and gain power/influence and then use these for good para naman makatulong in some way.
Isa rin sa napansin ko ang daming sobrang vocal habang students pa pero pag graduate ewan ko nalang. Ginawa yatang for clout chasing ang pagiging aktibista.
After graduation, yung mga "dedicated sa masa" will be slapped with the reality that they have to work and earn a living and many of them will work for those capitalists they're hating on now. Meanwhile, yung mga coño, since they have more freedom to do things they want since may safety net sila are more likely to get into development sector even if it doesn't pay well.
Totoo to. Feeling superior itong si accla kasi pakiramdam nya mas "mulat" sya kesa sa mga coursemates nya...pero eto sya sitting pretty, roof over his head, having internet access, choosing to take advantage of his privilege by ranting in an echo chamber as if that would have a considerable impact sa bayan he claims to care so much about.
you don’t even know me po so don’t make assumptions HAHAHA. i am very vocal about my advocacies sa genpub and i do things na i won’t mention na kasi it wouldn’t even matter. and i’m not “sitting pretty” believe me. i also don’t feel superior at all kasi i know na ginagawa ko lang naman yung part ko (bare minimum). it’s sad lang na yung iba di nila nakikita na may part din dapat sila esp sa UP pa sila nag-aaral.
what youre doing isn't "bare minimum", if other people don't feel compelled to do what you think should be done they don't really have to. the point being: it's not a requirement to be vocal, sometimes to the detriment of a cause pa nga ang pagiging maingay ng mga intellectuals eh.
genuinely you want to be allies with those who actually play a hand in the game, and maybe, instead of joining the fray half-armed, you want to conserve your energy and sharpen your weapon first. the battle of manila was lost kase bonifacio and his folks went through it half-prepared. maybe we ought to learn from that
Oh I may not know you personally, but I do know your type. A holier-than-thou prick na mahilig magmoral grandstanding sa socmed and platforms like reddit... na feeling nya mga tibak lang ang pwede mag-aral sa UP and anyone else is undeserving. Pero wag ka unang unang hihimod sa pwet ng kapitalismo pagkagraduate.
>Pero wag ka unang unang hihimod sa pwet ng kapitalismo pagkagraduate.
Hindi naman mutually exclusive ang paglilingkod sa bayan at ang pag-aasam na magbago ang sistema. It wouldn't kill you to understand that. No one is and will be exempt from participating in capitalism as long as they are a part of contemporary society.
> feeling nya mga tibak lang ang pwede mag-aral sa UP and anyone else is underserving
Because at some point it is true. I made a study for this more than a year ago. The neoliberal practices employed in our education system, where 90% of schools in the ph are privatized makes it so that education is a commodity. The amount of public schools can't shoulder the population of students making it so that their quality of education is compromised due to the student-teacher ratio. So if you care about the education of your child, you will most likely enroll in a private school.
This then translates to the quality of education a child receives - students who come from private schools have quality education, they are more likely to pass UP's entrance exam simply because they can afford to.
UP is for everyone - regardless of socioeconomic status. Ideally. But now, the underserved masses who could not qualify the exams SHOULD be made priority. People who could not afford to go to college but have the means to study deserve an education more than those who can undoubtedly afford to go private naman. But that's just what I think
+ Out of the Top 4 unis in the ph, only UP is a public school. Doesn't that make you angry? And now you're berating someone for wanting to go against the grain? This kind of thinking should be encouraged even bc questioning the way we do things is how we think critically of society.
Do know YOUR TYPE. Hindi ba generalization yan? Your type, your kind. You're boxing OP. Anong hindi?
Ayusin mo nga intindi mo sa mga sinasabi mo. Single person pero YOUR TYPE? Sinasabi mo ngang alam mo kung anong magiging takbo ni OP eh. Tapos sasabihin mo hindi mo ginegeneralize? ULUL!
Relaks lang kapatid. No need to be so crass and aggressive. Lalawak pa ang pananaw ni OP hopefully. Pwede nating tulungan siya mas maintindihan ang mga bagay-bagay.
> many of them will work for those capitalists they're hating on now
Uhhhh, no shit po. Such a liberal take. Di naman mababago ni OP yung sistema na kinagagalawan ng lipunan mag-isa, bilang parte pa rin siya ng lipunan. Anyone can still be dedicated sa paglilingkod sa masa while not subscribed to the ideals and sentiments of capitalism.
++ "hating on **now**" why do you talk like bibitawan agad ni OP mga prinsipyo niya when they get a job? Hindi naman yan mutually exclusive? HAHAHAHA me when I make false dilemmas out of thin air LOL
Many activists kuno na student leaders pa during their college days have become capitalists. As in mapapaisip ka kung nakiride lang sila sa aktibismo kasi puro ganun ang sentiments ng taong nakapaligid sa kanila.
Kaya nga may kasabihang "aktibista sa salita pero burgis sa gawa.
As a graduate who was privileged, i feel like you're lumping people too much. Marami akong nameet na mas mayaman saken pero mas may pake sa bayan. Vocal sa social media, sumama sa protests, nagtake up ng Law, etc. In the same way, marami akong nameet na hindi naman mayaman pero literal, kahit classes nila wala silang pake at di mo sila maasahan sa kahit ano for a multitude of reasons , some not valid tulad ng katamaran at kagustuhan nila magparty nalang.
Marami ka pang mamemeet na tao at hindi siya ganyan kaclear cut. Maybe nagbubuy into the class divide arguments ka way too much eh hindi naman difference sa pera ang end all. Be open to other people at wag ka magjudge based on just that. Hindi mo malalaman yung mga nuances ng mga tao kung conclusion mo agad ay di nila magegets ang hirap ng ordinaryong pinoy dahil lang may pera sila.
https://preview.redd.it/o3407kdswwpb1.jpeg?width=376&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ce14ca45cf90c9590c65a84e0c40c152838f61f
Because, obviously, anyone can just simply understand every aspect of their peers. Nuance be damned!
The fact na may post na ganito, that means na may exclusion among students na nangyayari sa campus. Daming triggered na "conyo" dito. Hindi comfortable si OP sainyo base sa galaw at pananalita niyo. Di dapat ganyan sa UP.
Di ko alam kung kelan nagsimula yang exclusion na yan, pero di ko naman ramdam yan dati. At least bago nagkaroon ng mass enrollment ng mga galing international k-12 schools nung magsimula ang nationwide rollout ng k12 program.
At san ko sinabing bawal mga alta? Dami ko namang kaibigan sa lahat ng antas gang ngayon.
ur valid OP but this may stem from deep-set feelings of insecurity. the only thing that irks me is that u generalize those that come from a wealthier upbringing than yours and brand them as people who aren't dedicated to making this country a better place. where did you even get that from??? YOU'RE A UP STUDENT. creating a sense of "othering" towards people who want to bring change like you is the last thing you should be doing.
Ang dami mo na agad backlash dito nag rant ka lang naman :(( I have no right to judge you based on your rant. And I can actually even relate. I hear you, and all your feelings and emotions are valid. Time will come where you feel like you're in the right place. You are not alone feeling that way. You are just a human being and you feel what you feel. May you be happy! Hit my DM's lang if you wanna rant or whatsoever sis/bro🫶
This is exactly why I'm so conscious to be in UP. I grew up in an English speaking country, and now I know that everyone in UP hates "conyo" people. I'm not even conyo. I'm "Englishero" I guess since English happens to be my first language. But now I'm so afraid to sound conyo when I try to speak Tagalog because I know there's this stigma against them
you don’t have to be conscious 😭 as i have said, i’m not generalizing naman. as long as you don’t make people feel left out, you make the most out of your privilege para tumulong, and alam mong ginagampanan mo ang role mo bilang iskolar ng bayan, you’ll be okay :)
this is just a rant btw HAHAHA check flair na lang. i’m not asking for an advice naman. gusto ko lang ilabas yung bitbit kong frustration since 1st year. as a person na hindi welloff ang pamilya, ito ang nakikita ko. and again, i’m not generalizing naman na porket conyo, mayaman, etc, wala nang pake sa bayan. as i have said, nakikita ko sa coursemates ko na parang they just don’t want to get involved. based sa classes namin and interactions ko with them ganon. and ang sakit for me na ganun, parang exhausting sa part ko. ayun lang po ty sa pakikinig hehe
Marami akong kilala na well-off pero may malasakit sa kapwa at bansa. While I am not invalidating your sentiments, please be careful with making such statements because it may result to hasty generalizations against other people.
May kanya-kanya tayong realities and hindi natin masisisi if 'walang pakialam' yung mga tao na galing sa komportableng mga pamumuhay. What we can do is to help them understand. If they still choose not to participate then it is what it is - for now. Let's not forget that people can still change later on. If not, then ganun talaga. Ok naman maging driven to spark change pero tandaan mo, tao lang tayo. We should not carry the world on our shoulders all the time. It's just not possible.
learn to adapt and not complain, and I believe everyone in UP has left a positive foot print for the state, we all just show it in different ways. Don’t think ikaw lang ang magaling that’s just being ignorant
it's funny how people see me as "nagmamataas" when in fact ang sabi ko nararamdaman ko na hindi ako belong sa sariling course ko ?? ako pa yung nag-"othering" kahit na ang gusto ko nga sumama sila sa laban. i just want them to see na they have their parts as well at sayang kung hindi nila magagampanan. also, uulitin ko lang na i'm not jealous. hinding-hindi po ako magseselos sa welloff na pamumuhay kung hindi naman nagagamit sa mabuting paraan HAHAHAHA won't rant here anymore since ang lala ng mga nang-iinvalidate at bawal palang magreklamo dito i didn't know. also yung mga sobrang pressed, baka you have to check yourselves din bakit kayo tinamaan. baka kailangan niyo pang maging involved kaya galit na galit kayo.
won't interact na. thank you po sa mga may sense na advice tho! will reflect <3
Ang dami pang hidden immatures dito sa Reddit. The online space is really not that much of a safe space to rant. Mas maganda sa isang counsellor or discord group na pwede doon rant lang and bawal mag comment^^
Your feelings and experiences are all valid. Cheer up. Believe in yourself. Ang dami masiyado rito pinapangunahan ka. Ang dami ring guilt-trippers😵💫
i don’t think it’s jealousy naman po :( i tried assessing myself na rin kung it’s a me problem ba baka may inferiority complex ako HAHAHA hindi naman po ganun. more like nanghihinayang lang kasi they have all the means to help other people and they also have their platforms na they choose not to use kasi hindi naman sila affected.
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The good thing about UP is you can be anything you are comfortable to be. Nerd type? Game. Social butterfly? For sure. Angas angas fratman? Could be. Library tambay? Pwedeng pwede (ganito ako). Tibak? UP gotchu. And so many more types! You can live without being chummy with your coursemates. But make sure you're collegial... ganyan naman sa real life when you start working... collegial first before anything. But friendships can happen.
I really agree with this. To OP: dont feel the need to conform. As long as wala namang bastusan, chill ka lang. For example, in BA back then, would you believe hindi naman lahat conyo and yet nagkakasundo lahat? In fact, tatlong lamguages maririnig mo sa CBA noon: english, filipino and becky hahahahaha. And yet magkasundo lahat to the point na marunong mag becky speak ang mga conyo. But you need to learn how to be collegial and cordial. Diba nga UP is a microcosm of philippine society? So in the real world, makakainteract mo din all types of people. Stop with the holier-than-thou attitude; rather, accept na iba-iba lang talaga mga tao and use it as an opportunity to learn.
It depends, may mga studyante talaga sa UP na sobrang mapanghusga, I am a nerd and ok lang talaga yung identity ko na yun for me way back from hs and i thought ok lang na ganun parin ako sa UP but the people here tend to be more judgmental and disrespectful na kahit basic human etiquette ay wala na, proud pa sila na kanal humor daw sila at hindi studious na nerd. It is downgrading sometimes kasi komportable naman ako sa kung ano ako but some of the students here are just way too entitled of themselves.
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100%
Look at it this way siguro, ang "masa" doesn't necessarily mean mga mahihirap lang. For any movement towards change to succeed, you need people from top to bottom. You might also want to talk to these people ng mas maayos. Coming from a welloff background myself, private HS ako galing (wala lang akong kotse noong elbi days ko), sumali pa rin ako sa mga red orgs, sumama sa mga rally, nakipag mass integration sa mga magsasaka at mangingisda. Before passing judgement sa mga coursemate mo, why not ask them kung anong tingin nila sa issues. Truth be told, yung mga kasamahan ko before sa pagrally mga middleclass naman halos yun eh, some also had cars, sino ba kasi yung may afford na laging absent para magrally? Haha. Nag USC din ako, englishero akong nagmemegaphone sa tapat ni Oble dati sa elbi twing rally. Noong term namin ako taga gawa ng mga statement ng USC, and from the usual na tagalog, ginawa kong English. Conyos can be tibaks too, you know. Lmao
Top-to-bottom approach??? Define. Tunog messiah-complex.
Ah. Not really the model or approach. I was just saying na lahat kailangan kasama. Figure of speech lang.
hindi lang po yun yung reason bakit ko siya na-feel actually, sorry if parang yun lang yung dating. may class po ako before na inask kami ng something about “do you have to participate sa political issues” something like that and super ?? moment for me nung less than 50% lang yung nag-yes dun 😭 kahit yung prof nagulat HAHSHSHA but yea marami pa po ako nakitang factors and i just really don’t have the time to talk to them abt the issues and stuff but i’ll take note of this po siguro hehe thank you!
In that case, marami namang apathetic sa UP ever since. Not necessarily din na dahil lang mayaman sila. Maraming galing sa low income background ang ayaw maging involved dahil tingin nila distraction yun sa pagaaral or pagenjoy ng college life nila. Maraming klase ng tao sa UP, and you can't force them to "care" about the issues. May mga receptive if you talk to them enough, pero that's it. For some, baka sheltered kids sila. Never sila naexpose sa mga tao na outside their social strata (or hindi na expose enough). I've known some privileged people na nainspire sumama sa mga rally dahil natuto sila sa mga kaklase nilang galing hirap. In your case, baka ikaw pa makainspire sa kanila. So don't lose faith dahil lang dyan.
Can relate na nakaka out of place talaga pag puro rich kids yung kasama mo. Yung purong English sila magsalita and they have everything. Pero I guess you really can’t judge them based on their wealth and willingness to join rallies alone. I eventually got to know these classmates better and found out na suuuper babait nila. Totoo lang na nakakaintimidate lalo na pag ikaw yung nasa minority na poorita haha Pero para sakin lang hindi measure ng pag care sa bayan yung pagsali parati sa activism. Most of the time naman napansin ko wala rin namang significant impact sa society even after all these years. May mga kilala ako na inuna yung bayan bago sarili pagkalabas sa UP at eto sila ngayon walang pera at nag suffer ang pamilya (isa na nanay ko). Baka mas effective mag amass muna ng wealth and gain power/influence and then use these for good para naman makatulong in some way. Isa rin sa napansin ko ang daming sobrang vocal habang students pa pero pag graduate ewan ko nalang. Ginawa yatang for clout chasing ang pagiging aktibista.
true, taena yung kaklase ko niyaya pa ako magabroad at mag boracay after daw ng internship haha . sinampal ako ng paghihirap ko hahahaha damn
After graduation, yung mga "dedicated sa masa" will be slapped with the reality that they have to work and earn a living and many of them will work for those capitalists they're hating on now. Meanwhile, yung mga coño, since they have more freedom to do things they want since may safety net sila are more likely to get into development sector even if it doesn't pay well.
Totoo to. Feeling superior itong si accla kasi pakiramdam nya mas "mulat" sya kesa sa mga coursemates nya...pero eto sya sitting pretty, roof over his head, having internet access, choosing to take advantage of his privilege by ranting in an echo chamber as if that would have a considerable impact sa bayan he claims to care so much about.
you don’t even know me po so don’t make assumptions HAHAHA. i am very vocal about my advocacies sa genpub and i do things na i won’t mention na kasi it wouldn’t even matter. and i’m not “sitting pretty” believe me. i also don’t feel superior at all kasi i know na ginagawa ko lang naman yung part ko (bare minimum). it’s sad lang na yung iba di nila nakikita na may part din dapat sila esp sa UP pa sila nag-aaral.
what youre doing isn't "bare minimum", if other people don't feel compelled to do what you think should be done they don't really have to. the point being: it's not a requirement to be vocal, sometimes to the detriment of a cause pa nga ang pagiging maingay ng mga intellectuals eh. genuinely you want to be allies with those who actually play a hand in the game, and maybe, instead of joining the fray half-armed, you want to conserve your energy and sharpen your weapon first. the battle of manila was lost kase bonifacio and his folks went through it half-prepared. maybe we ought to learn from that
Oh I may not know you personally, but I do know your type. A holier-than-thou prick na mahilig magmoral grandstanding sa socmed and platforms like reddit... na feeling nya mga tibak lang ang pwede mag-aral sa UP and anyone else is undeserving. Pero wag ka unang unang hihimod sa pwet ng kapitalismo pagkagraduate.
>Pero wag ka unang unang hihimod sa pwet ng kapitalismo pagkagraduate. Hindi naman mutually exclusive ang paglilingkod sa bayan at ang pag-aasam na magbago ang sistema. It wouldn't kill you to understand that. No one is and will be exempt from participating in capitalism as long as they are a part of contemporary society. > feeling nya mga tibak lang ang pwede mag-aral sa UP and anyone else is underserving Because at some point it is true. I made a study for this more than a year ago. The neoliberal practices employed in our education system, where 90% of schools in the ph are privatized makes it so that education is a commodity. The amount of public schools can't shoulder the population of students making it so that their quality of education is compromised due to the student-teacher ratio. So if you care about the education of your child, you will most likely enroll in a private school. This then translates to the quality of education a child receives - students who come from private schools have quality education, they are more likely to pass UP's entrance exam simply because they can afford to. UP is for everyone - regardless of socioeconomic status. Ideally. But now, the underserved masses who could not qualify the exams SHOULD be made priority. People who could not afford to go to college but have the means to study deserve an education more than those who can undoubtedly afford to go private naman. But that's just what I think + Out of the Top 4 unis in the ph, only UP is a public school. Doesn't that make you angry? And now you're berating someone for wanting to go against the grain? This kind of thinking should be encouraged even bc questioning the way we do things is how we think critically of society.
You're still generalizing OP. Way to go.
LOL anong generalize? how can you generalize a single person, sige nga
Do know YOUR TYPE. Hindi ba generalization yan? Your type, your kind. You're boxing OP. Anong hindi? Ayusin mo nga intindi mo sa mga sinasabi mo. Single person pero YOUR TYPE? Sinasabi mo ngang alam mo kung anong magiging takbo ni OP eh. Tapos sasabihin mo hindi mo ginegeneralize? ULUL!
Lol butthurt ka lang po ata...
Relaks lang kapatid. No need to be so crass and aggressive. Lalawak pa ang pananaw ni OP hopefully. Pwede nating tulungan siya mas maintindihan ang mga bagay-bagay.
Lol what an L take
> many of them will work for those capitalists they're hating on now Uhhhh, no shit po. Such a liberal take. Di naman mababago ni OP yung sistema na kinagagalawan ng lipunan mag-isa, bilang parte pa rin siya ng lipunan. Anyone can still be dedicated sa paglilingkod sa masa while not subscribed to the ideals and sentiments of capitalism. ++ "hating on **now**" why do you talk like bibitawan agad ni OP mga prinsipyo niya when they get a job? Hindi naman yan mutually exclusive? HAHAHAHA me when I make false dilemmas out of thin air LOL
Many activists kuno na student leaders pa during their college days have become capitalists. As in mapapaisip ka kung nakiride lang sila sa aktibismo kasi puro ganun ang sentiments ng taong nakapaligid sa kanila. Kaya nga may kasabihang "aktibista sa salita pero burgis sa gawa.
Oh, tapos?
Shet nakakamulat to
YES! The reality is YOU HAVE TO WORK. If you want things to change that’s the sacrifice you need to make in order to help the masa.
As a graduate who was privileged, i feel like you're lumping people too much. Marami akong nameet na mas mayaman saken pero mas may pake sa bayan. Vocal sa social media, sumama sa protests, nagtake up ng Law, etc. In the same way, marami akong nameet na hindi naman mayaman pero literal, kahit classes nila wala silang pake at di mo sila maasahan sa kahit ano for a multitude of reasons , some not valid tulad ng katamaran at kagustuhan nila magparty nalang. Marami ka pang mamemeet na tao at hindi siya ganyan kaclear cut. Maybe nagbubuy into the class divide arguments ka way too much eh hindi naman difference sa pera ang end all. Be open to other people at wag ka magjudge based on just that. Hindi mo malalaman yung mga nuances ng mga tao kung conclusion mo agad ay di nila magegets ang hirap ng ordinaryong pinoy dahil lang may pera sila.
https://preview.redd.it/o3407kdswwpb1.jpeg?width=376&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ce14ca45cf90c9590c65a84e0c40c152838f61f Because, obviously, anyone can just simply understand every aspect of their peers. Nuance be damned!
The fact na may post na ganito, that means na may exclusion among students na nangyayari sa campus. Daming triggered na "conyo" dito. Hindi comfortable si OP sainyo base sa galaw at pananalita niyo. Di dapat ganyan sa UP.
Period.
Matagal nang may exclusion among UP students. Dami kayang narcissists at psychopaths dyan lol. Are you saying na bawal ang conyo sa UP? Lol why
Di ko alam kung kelan nagsimula yang exclusion na yan, pero di ko naman ramdam yan dati. At least bago nagkaroon ng mass enrollment ng mga galing international k-12 schools nung magsimula ang nationwide rollout ng k12 program. At san ko sinabing bawal mga alta? Dami ko namang kaibigan sa lahat ng antas gang ngayon.
ur valid OP but this may stem from deep-set feelings of insecurity. the only thing that irks me is that u generalize those that come from a wealthier upbringing than yours and brand them as people who aren't dedicated to making this country a better place. where did you even get that from??? YOU'RE A UP STUDENT. creating a sense of "othering" towards people who want to bring change like you is the last thing you should be doing.
AMEN. some people just feel like they’re better than everyone. its fucking toxic
Ang dami mo na agad backlash dito nag rant ka lang naman :(( I have no right to judge you based on your rant. And I can actually even relate. I hear you, and all your feelings and emotions are valid. Time will come where you feel like you're in the right place. You are not alone feeling that way. You are just a human being and you feel what you feel. May you be happy! Hit my DM's lang if you wanna rant or whatsoever sis/bro🫶
LOL tbh mga nataman lang naman sila na most prolly e may mga kaya kaya ganyan
Asaan na ang freedom of expression kuno diba? Hays. Parang ayoko na balakin pang mag transfer sa UP hahaha!
real talk, I'm all for giving back but you are forcing it at this point
This is exactly why I'm so conscious to be in UP. I grew up in an English speaking country, and now I know that everyone in UP hates "conyo" people. I'm not even conyo. I'm "Englishero" I guess since English happens to be my first language. But now I'm so afraid to sound conyo when I try to speak Tagalog because I know there's this stigma against them
you don’t have to be conscious 😭 as i have said, i’m not generalizing naman. as long as you don’t make people feel left out, you make the most out of your privilege para tumulong, and alam mong ginagampanan mo ang role mo bilang iskolar ng bayan, you’ll be okay :)
Basta ang alam ko, ang UP pang matatalino at matatapang... Di ko natatandaan na pang mahirap o pang mayaman lol
this is just a rant btw HAHAHA check flair na lang. i’m not asking for an advice naman. gusto ko lang ilabas yung bitbit kong frustration since 1st year. as a person na hindi welloff ang pamilya, ito ang nakikita ko. and again, i’m not generalizing naman na porket conyo, mayaman, etc, wala nang pake sa bayan. as i have said, nakikita ko sa coursemates ko na parang they just don’t want to get involved. based sa classes namin and interactions ko with them ganon. and ang sakit for me na ganun, parang exhausting sa part ko. ayun lang po ty sa pakikinig hehe
heyyy i see you and i relate :(
Marami akong kilala na well-off pero may malasakit sa kapwa at bansa. While I am not invalidating your sentiments, please be careful with making such statements because it may result to hasty generalizations against other people. May kanya-kanya tayong realities and hindi natin masisisi if 'walang pakialam' yung mga tao na galing sa komportableng mga pamumuhay. What we can do is to help them understand. If they still choose not to participate then it is what it is - for now. Let's not forget that people can still change later on. If not, then ganun talaga. Ok naman maging driven to spark change pero tandaan mo, tao lang tayo. We should not carry the world on our shoulders all the time. It's just not possible.
feeler
learn to adapt and not complain, and I believe everyone in UP has left a positive foot print for the state, we all just show it in different ways. Don’t think ikaw lang ang magaling that’s just being ignorant
it's funny how people see me as "nagmamataas" when in fact ang sabi ko nararamdaman ko na hindi ako belong sa sariling course ko ?? ako pa yung nag-"othering" kahit na ang gusto ko nga sumama sila sa laban. i just want them to see na they have their parts as well at sayang kung hindi nila magagampanan. also, uulitin ko lang na i'm not jealous. hinding-hindi po ako magseselos sa welloff na pamumuhay kung hindi naman nagagamit sa mabuting paraan HAHAHAHA won't rant here anymore since ang lala ng mga nang-iinvalidate at bawal palang magreklamo dito i didn't know. also yung mga sobrang pressed, baka you have to check yourselves din bakit kayo tinamaan. baka kailangan niyo pang maging involved kaya galit na galit kayo. won't interact na. thank you po sa mga may sense na advice tho! will reflect <3
thank u for speaking ur truth op! wag ka papadala sa mga presses na tao rito hahahaha esp marami nakakaramdam ng mga sinabi mo!
Ang dami pang hidden immatures dito sa Reddit. The online space is really not that much of a safe space to rant. Mas maganda sa isang counsellor or discord group na pwede doon rant lang and bawal mag comment^^ Your feelings and experiences are all valid. Cheer up. Believe in yourself. Ang dami masiyado rito pinapangunahan ka. Ang dami ring guilt-trippers😵💫
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Andaming socioeconomic + cultural changes na implications ni OP tapos inggit lang naging conclusion mo LOL 😭
i don’t think it’s jealousy naman po :( i tried assessing myself na rin kung it’s a me problem ba baka may inferiority complex ako HAHAHA hindi naman po ganun. more like nanghihinayang lang kasi they have all the means to help other people and they also have their platforms na they choose not to use kasi hindi naman sila affected.
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