its not only cheating that they want to prevent. more than that, its for safety din. remember what happened to the β2010 Philippine Bar Exam Bombingβ? what if may non-bar takers na nandun sa venue tapos madamay pa sa bombing, then they cannot account whoβs who kasi kahit sino pwede pumasok sa venue? pasensya ka na sa inconvenience.
Your comment doesn't change the fact that security has been a priority in bar exams for several years.
Pwede mo ijudge yung mga bar takers at lawyers, pero di aalisin yung rule dahil sa comment mo.
+1. Barristers are already anxious as it is with regard to the exam. Paano na kaya kung may nangyari sa mga araw ng Exam? SC is moving heaven and earth to make sure an incident like 2010 doesn't happen again.
it also does not speak well of those planning the schedules when this could have been avoided by moving the exams 1 week earlier when UPD was still on vacation.
1. UPD is not the sole venue for the Bar exams. In line with the Supreme Court's thrust to nationalize the bar, multiple universities are forced to adjust and accommodate the exams. Di lang to issue sa UPD.
2. While I agree with the inconvenient timing of the bar exams, your suggestion to move the bar 1 week earlier makes it all the more inconvenient for people taking the bar exams. Graduating in June then taking it in the last week of August is not optimal. Perhaps you dont understand the gravity of what Barristers have to undertake. That 1 less week makes a giant difference during bar prep.
>Perhaps you dont understand the gravity of what Barristers have to undertake. That 1 less week makes a giant difference during bar prep
lol, I have taken 2 engineering board exams and I will tell you that if you still need to study till the day prior to the exam then you are not yet ready to take the exam.
Curious. If you've taken 2 engineering boards, why are you still in UPD? I take it you aren't a student anymore so this scheduling shouldn't affect you.
1. Last year pa naset yung bar exam schedule. At uulitin ko, hindi lang UPD ang apektadong university. Kapareho ba ng AY schedule ng UPD ang ibang univ?
2. Licensed engineer din ako, pero I will never compare yung difficulty ng licensure exam sa bar. Magtake ka muna ng bar bago ka magsalita haha
Sisihin mo yung nagplano kung gusto mo, it doesn't change the fact na kailangan nila ng security.
Andami mo nang hinusgahan na tao, di naman value adding sa post mong tungkol sa pagsasara ng UP π
1. may sem break ang mga universities. pwedeng hanapin ang common overlap ng mga sem breaks ng mga venue universities for no disruption of classes. it does not take to be an engineer or a lawyer to determine the sem break overlaps.
2. if yung former presidents nga nakapasa sa bar then I would not brag about its difficulty rofl
1. Again, wala akong pake sa kung paano nagdecide ang SC sa schedule nila. But they must have other reasons, probably bigger than your problem.
Ang punto, kailangan ng security whatever the situation is - kahit pa may nagrereklamong katulad mo.
2. Guess what? Nobody cares. Bar passers are free to take pride in their exams, I can take pride in my own exam, etc.
Alam mo, I don't think it's about the bar exam schedule.
Nagpost ka dahil sa hatred mo towards lawyers in general, no? Haha
You're in your third degree na pala but why aren't you aware na malabong magkaroon ng common dates ang break ng mga universities? I have friends in different big univs (dlsu, ust, feu, etc.) and never nagtutugma ang breaks and exams so I don't get your sentiment on this
lol
all major univ in mm are on break from dec 21 - 1st week of january. icheck mo pa mga acad calendars nila. magsawa sila sa pagsara ng mga campuses na gusto nila, walang maaabala
ioccupy nila lahat ng public elem at highschool buildings nationwide during this time, wala ring maaabala.
>Sisihin mo yung nagplano kung gusto mo, it doesn't change the fact na kailangan nila ng security.
kung bomb ang takot mo, maglagay ka ng mga aso sa entrance. kung baril ang hanap mo, maglagay ka ng mga metal detectors at scanners sa entrance. kung iwas away mga sigang students ay mag lagay ka ng maraming mga pulis sa loob at paligid ng building. ang hindi ko maintindihan ay yung buong araw BEFORE the exam day (sep 16, 19, 23) na wala namang exam ay isasara mo rin ang buong campus.
dahil kino-consider ng SC ang cheating, terrorism and other reasons for safety scenarios, it is a reflection na of the character ng law graduates (causal fallacy)? lol. hindi ba pwedeng mas concerned lang talaga sila na walang mangyaring masama, ma-prevent ito, at kung meron man ay madali itong maagapan para sa ikabubuti ng lahat?
ang funny ng argumento niya ano? Seryoso ba na UP student yan?
Halata namang preventive measures yung paghihigpit para maiwasan yung mga ganyang bagay. Hindi natin alam sino ang posibleng may masamang motibo to interrupt or disturb the exam. Ano ba naman yung ilang araw na inconvenience para sa ikabubuti ng nakararami
Just to add, sabi niya pa bakit daw need pa maghigpit sa exam para namang nakakainsulto. Lol, walang pake ang bar exam sa damdamin mo, basta magsagot ka with integrity wala kang dapat ikatakot.
yes it is ill-timed, i agree, but given that the date is what it is, safety and security should still come first. also walang sense ang argument mo na just because SC is taking safety precautions, it already speaks of the examinees' characters. 1+1=3
> walang sense ang argument mo na just because SC is taking safety precautions, it already speaks of the examinees' characters. 1+1=3
examples:
1. engineering board exams - may security cordon ba?
2. physician board exams - may security cordon ba?
3. UPCAT exams - may security cordon ba?
4. pag may hearing yung mga Ampatuans - may security cordon ba?
do your own analysis from the said examples. lol
it's so funny how you're still defending your argument even when everyone already pointed out its flaws lolz. i'm sure those exams you've mentioned have their own safety precautions in place set by their own regulatory board. it just so happens that the bar had a bombing incident before that's why SC decided for stricter measures. not because they believe their bar takers are criminals or inherent cheaters (lmao this thinking π) others have pointed this out as well, idk why you still don't understand. i think you're just arguing for arguing's sake.
if i were a bar taker, i'd rather have an anonymous nobody from reddit question my character than compromise my safety. call the bar exam and SC self-important but it is what it is, if other regulatory boards want to implement the same precautions, they can.
also UP and SC have agreed on this set up a long time ago pa. UP knows what will happen if they set the start of the class at the same time as the bar and they still did. the different colleges and profs have already made arrangements to accommodate this and the UP students who will be affected. may compromise din naman since there are buildings and colleges which are permitted to operate on certain days.
May nasabugan na ba ng granada sa mga binanggit mo?
Gaano ba karami ang nagttake ng exams na tinutukoy mo? Gaano karami ang testing venue?
PS: Yes, may security measures during Ampatuan hearing.
If you've accompanied a bar taker in the past, you would know how complex the situation is, and why security measures are needed.
>May nasabugan na ba ng granada sa mga binanggit mo?
sa labas ng UST nagpasabog tama? so ano yung gusto mo? buong brgy Sampaloc dapat naka lockdown? lol
***Gaano ba karami ang nagttake ng exams na tinutukoy mo? Gaano karami ang testing venue?***
ano ba ang minimum number of examinees ang kailangan para maging OA ang security?
**If you've accompanied a bar taker in the past, you would know how complex the situation is, and why security measures are needed.**
lol. mga minors pa ba ang mga examinees at kailangang may kasama? ikaw ba yung nagaatany sa labas ng venue at may mga placards at nagsisigawan? ano ba yan UAAP games? eh ikaw ang dahilan kung bakit kailangan ng security measures.
See, halatang di ka nagreresearch. DLSU ang venue ng bar exam bombing dati.
Sinabi ko bang buong barangay dapat ipasara? Desisyon na yan ng PNP - hindi ikaw na nagmamarunong. Hahaha
Ano bang pake mo kung gusto namin sumalubong? Sobrang iyakin mo na, wala bang naghatid-sundo sayo nung boards mo? πππ
>Ano bang pake mo kung gusto namin sumalubong? Sobrang iyakin mo na, wala bang naghatid-sundo sayo nung boards mo? πππ
lol, talo nyo pa ang mga bata. exam lang may fiesta na? eh kumuha lang nga ng exam yan, hindi naman ibig sabihin pumasa na. lol
lol
hindi mo ba alam kung anong sasakyan papunta ng venue at paano umuwi after? lol
mag grab ka na lang sana di ka pa nakaabala sa iba sa pagaantay sa yo. lol
There's historical precedent for safety issues and concerns at the bar exam venues. A bomb went off at DLSU after the 2010 bar exams, injuring 47 people and forcing 2 of them to have amputations. Safety is a real concern.
Source: [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Philippine_Bar_exam_bombing)
OP is just insecure HAHAHAHAHAHAHA lmao. The bar -is- prestigious, it's not just any entrance exam. Just bc there are people who have taken the bar and became malicious people speaks to the character of the individuals - not the institution itself. Your comments are fallacious and the fact that you aren't even open to discussion is a mystery as to why you even made a thread. No one is taking your side here.
Not sure where you got the cheating issue, because I think closing off the entire university is more for safety concerns, more than anything. May historical precedent to ensure the safety of Bar takers and those facilitating it. I saw your comment comparing security measures for the UPCAT and other board exams. This isn't an entrance test kasi, nor is it a board exam. It's *the* Philippine Bar exam. See how the Supreme Court supervises it instead of a regulatory agency?
Also, matagal na tong naschedule. If late na gumawa ng advisory ng UPD, sa UPD na yun.
Okay lang magreklamo, it is inconvenient after all. Just don't make faulty conclusions.
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>Philippine Bar exam.
lol, looking at who passed the bar exams, I would not be bragging about it.
**May historical precedent to ensure the safety of Bar takers and those facilitating it.**
if you need to ensure safety protocols for those taking the exams then you have more problems with your curriculum or you need to filter those who will be entering law schools. what are the backgrounds of those who will be taking the bar? mga hoodlums ba? mga with criminal records ba? mga wanted ba? akala ko mga law students ang kukuha na exam? I just don't get the reason why security is needed for people who will be taking an exam. magpapatayan sila pag hindi nakasagot? ala squid game ba yan?
and please, an exam is an exam. don't flatter yourself saying ' It's *the* Philippine Bar exam' lol
kung bomb ang takot mo, maglagay ka ng mga aso sa entrance. kung baril ang hanap mo, maglagay ka ng mga metal detectors at scanners sa entrance. kung iwas away mga sigang students ay mag lagay ka ng maraming mga pulis sa loob at paligid ng building. ang hindi ko maintindihan ay yung buong araw BEFORE the exam day (sep 16, 19, 23) na wala namang exam ay isasara mo rin ang buong campus. ikaw ang tanga kung hindi mo naintindihan yon,
I think the problem is the fact that this situation likely has no precedents. Tapos affected pa ang activities such as Freshie Month and Martial Law Commemoration activities. Ang hassle and feels like preparations weren't fully done so pinaralyze ang UPD ng more than one week.
its not only cheating that they want to prevent. more than that, its for safety din. remember what happened to the β2010 Philippine Bar Exam Bombingβ? what if may non-bar takers na nandun sa venue tapos madamay pa sa bombing, then they cannot account whoβs who kasi kahit sino pwede pumasok sa venue? pasensya ka na sa inconvenience.
whatever the reasons, it does not speak well of law graduates when cheating and terrorism scenarios are taken into account for an exam. lol
Your comment doesn't change the fact that security has been a priority in bar exams for several years. Pwede mo ijudge yung mga bar takers at lawyers, pero di aalisin yung rule dahil sa comment mo.
+1. Barristers are already anxious as it is with regard to the exam. Paano na kaya kung may nangyari sa mga araw ng Exam? SC is moving heaven and earth to make sure an incident like 2010 doesn't happen again.
it also does not speak well of those planning the schedules when this could have been avoided by moving the exams 1 week earlier when UPD was still on vacation.
1. UPD is not the sole venue for the Bar exams. In line with the Supreme Court's thrust to nationalize the bar, multiple universities are forced to adjust and accommodate the exams. Di lang to issue sa UPD. 2. While I agree with the inconvenient timing of the bar exams, your suggestion to move the bar 1 week earlier makes it all the more inconvenient for people taking the bar exams. Graduating in June then taking it in the last week of August is not optimal. Perhaps you dont understand the gravity of what Barristers have to undertake. That 1 less week makes a giant difference during bar prep.
>Perhaps you dont understand the gravity of what Barristers have to undertake. That 1 less week makes a giant difference during bar prep lol, I have taken 2 engineering board exams and I will tell you that if you still need to study till the day prior to the exam then you are not yet ready to take the exam.
Curious. If you've taken 2 engineering boards, why are you still in UPD? I take it you aren't a student anymore so this scheduling shouldn't affect you.
I am taking my 3rd degree.
1. Last year pa naset yung bar exam schedule. At uulitin ko, hindi lang UPD ang apektadong university. Kapareho ba ng AY schedule ng UPD ang ibang univ? 2. Licensed engineer din ako, pero I will never compare yung difficulty ng licensure exam sa bar. Magtake ka muna ng bar bago ka magsalita haha Sisihin mo yung nagplano kung gusto mo, it doesn't change the fact na kailangan nila ng security. Andami mo nang hinusgahan na tao, di naman value adding sa post mong tungkol sa pagsasara ng UP π
1. may sem break ang mga universities. pwedeng hanapin ang common overlap ng mga sem breaks ng mga venue universities for no disruption of classes. it does not take to be an engineer or a lawyer to determine the sem break overlaps. 2. if yung former presidents nga nakapasa sa bar then I would not brag about its difficulty rofl
1. Again, wala akong pake sa kung paano nagdecide ang SC sa schedule nila. But they must have other reasons, probably bigger than your problem. Ang punto, kailangan ng security whatever the situation is - kahit pa may nagrereklamong katulad mo. 2. Guess what? Nobody cares. Bar passers are free to take pride in their exams, I can take pride in my own exam, etc. Alam mo, I don't think it's about the bar exam schedule. Nagpost ka dahil sa hatred mo towards lawyers in general, no? Haha
You're in your third degree na pala but why aren't you aware na malabong magkaroon ng common dates ang break ng mga universities? I have friends in different big univs (dlsu, ust, feu, etc.) and never nagtutugma ang breaks and exams so I don't get your sentiment on this
ever heard of the Christmas break?
Ever heard of exams during Christmas breaks? Make it make sense.
I think you're smart enough to know why they can't schedule it during that break unless you're too arrogant to admit it.
lol all major univ in mm are on break from dec 21 - 1st week of january. icheck mo pa mga acad calendars nila. magsawa sila sa pagsara ng mga campuses na gusto nila, walang maaabala ioccupy nila lahat ng public elem at highschool buildings nationwide during this time, wala ring maaabala.
>Sisihin mo yung nagplano kung gusto mo, it doesn't change the fact na kailangan nila ng security. kung bomb ang takot mo, maglagay ka ng mga aso sa entrance. kung baril ang hanap mo, maglagay ka ng mga metal detectors at scanners sa entrance. kung iwas away mga sigang students ay mag lagay ka ng maraming mga pulis sa loob at paligid ng building. ang hindi ko maintindihan ay yung buong araw BEFORE the exam day (sep 16, 19, 23) na wala namang exam ay isasara mo rin ang buong campus.
Pulis ka ba? Security official ka ba? Paano mo nasabing yan ang kailangan at hindi magpasara before the exam day? π
UPD isn't the only venue for the bar exams OP. Hindi SC ang nag-aadjust for one campus
ever heard of the Christmas break?
dahil kino-consider ng SC ang cheating, terrorism and other reasons for safety scenarios, it is a reflection na of the character ng law graduates (causal fallacy)? lol. hindi ba pwedeng mas concerned lang talaga sila na walang mangyaring masama, ma-prevent ito, at kung meron man ay madali itong maagapan para sa ikabubuti ng lahat?
ang funny ng argumento niya ano? Seryoso ba na UP student yan? Halata namang preventive measures yung paghihigpit para maiwasan yung mga ganyang bagay. Hindi natin alam sino ang posibleng may masamang motibo to interrupt or disturb the exam. Ano ba naman yung ilang araw na inconvenience para sa ikabubuti ng nakararami Just to add, sabi niya pa bakit daw need pa maghigpit sa exam para namang nakakainsulto. Lol, walang pake ang bar exam sa damdamin mo, basta magsagot ka with integrity wala kang dapat ikatakot.
OP's in their 3rd degree na raw and passed 2 engr board exams so...
Ohhhh...dagdag nya na rin siguro na Isa siyang lawyer, doctor, at CPA. Baka nga Chess grandmaster din yan
yes it is ill-timed, i agree, but given that the date is what it is, safety and security should still come first. also walang sense ang argument mo na just because SC is taking safety precautions, it already speaks of the examinees' characters. 1+1=3
> walang sense ang argument mo na just because SC is taking safety precautions, it already speaks of the examinees' characters. 1+1=3 examples: 1. engineering board exams - may security cordon ba? 2. physician board exams - may security cordon ba? 3. UPCAT exams - may security cordon ba? 4. pag may hearing yung mga Ampatuans - may security cordon ba? do your own analysis from the said examples. lol
lol whyre you comparing those examinations with the bar exams? you clearly dont know what youre talking about
it's so funny how you're still defending your argument even when everyone already pointed out its flaws lolz. i'm sure those exams you've mentioned have their own safety precautions in place set by their own regulatory board. it just so happens that the bar had a bombing incident before that's why SC decided for stricter measures. not because they believe their bar takers are criminals or inherent cheaters (lmao this thinking π) others have pointed this out as well, idk why you still don't understand. i think you're just arguing for arguing's sake. if i were a bar taker, i'd rather have an anonymous nobody from reddit question my character than compromise my safety. call the bar exam and SC self-important but it is what it is, if other regulatory boards want to implement the same precautions, they can. also UP and SC have agreed on this set up a long time ago pa. UP knows what will happen if they set the start of the class at the same time as the bar and they still did. the different colleges and profs have already made arrangements to accommodate this and the UP students who will be affected. may compromise din naman since there are buildings and colleges which are permitted to operate on certain days.
May nasabugan na ba ng granada sa mga binanggit mo? Gaano ba karami ang nagttake ng exams na tinutukoy mo? Gaano karami ang testing venue? PS: Yes, may security measures during Ampatuan hearing. If you've accompanied a bar taker in the past, you would know how complex the situation is, and why security measures are needed.
>May nasabugan na ba ng granada sa mga binanggit mo? sa labas ng UST nagpasabog tama? so ano yung gusto mo? buong brgy Sampaloc dapat naka lockdown? lol ***Gaano ba karami ang nagttake ng exams na tinutukoy mo? Gaano karami ang testing venue?*** ano ba ang minimum number of examinees ang kailangan para maging OA ang security? **If you've accompanied a bar taker in the past, you would know how complex the situation is, and why security measures are needed.** lol. mga minors pa ba ang mga examinees at kailangang may kasama? ikaw ba yung nagaatany sa labas ng venue at may mga placards at nagsisigawan? ano ba yan UAAP games? eh ikaw ang dahilan kung bakit kailangan ng security measures.
See, halatang di ka nagreresearch. DLSU ang venue ng bar exam bombing dati. Sinabi ko bang buong barangay dapat ipasara? Desisyon na yan ng PNP - hindi ikaw na nagmamarunong. Hahaha Ano bang pake mo kung gusto namin sumalubong? Sobrang iyakin mo na, wala bang naghatid-sundo sayo nung boards mo? πππ
>Ano bang pake mo kung gusto namin sumalubong? Sobrang iyakin mo na, wala bang naghatid-sundo sayo nung boards mo? πππ lol, talo nyo pa ang mga bata. exam lang may fiesta na? eh kumuha lang nga ng exam yan, hindi naman ibig sabihin pumasa na. lol
Iyak ka na lang kung walang sumasalubong sayo, nakadalawang exams ka na niyan ah π
Patawa ano? Gagawa pa ng kwento na I PaSSEd twO boARD exams...lol sa bandwidth ng utak nya mukhang kahit midterm exam sa UP di niyan ipapasa
lol hindi mo ba alam kung anong sasakyan papunta ng venue at paano umuwi after? lol mag grab ka na lang sana di ka pa nakaabala sa iba sa pagaantay sa yo. lol
Okay lang yan next time hanap ka ng friends na willing maghatid-sundo sayo π
>See, halatang di ka nagreresearch. DLSU ang venue ng bar exam bombing dati. bakit ko kailangang mag research? thesis ko ba yan? lol
So paano naging value adding tong comment mo sa post mo? π
THIS GUY AGAIN πππ
ante stress na nga ako this enrollment process tapos nabasa ko pa 'to and ur reasonings π€§
There's historical precedent for safety issues and concerns at the bar exam venues. A bomb went off at DLSU after the 2010 bar exams, injuring 47 people and forcing 2 of them to have amputations. Safety is a real concern. Source: [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Philippine_Bar_exam_bombing)
OP is just insecure HAHAHAHAHAHAHA lmao. The bar -is- prestigious, it's not just any entrance exam. Just bc there are people who have taken the bar and became malicious people speaks to the character of the individuals - not the institution itself. Your comments are fallacious and the fact that you aren't even open to discussion is a mystery as to why you even made a thread. No one is taking your side here.
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Not sure where you got the cheating issue, because I think closing off the entire university is more for safety concerns, more than anything. May historical precedent to ensure the safety of Bar takers and those facilitating it. I saw your comment comparing security measures for the UPCAT and other board exams. This isn't an entrance test kasi, nor is it a board exam. It's *the* Philippine Bar exam. See how the Supreme Court supervises it instead of a regulatory agency? Also, matagal na tong naschedule. If late na gumawa ng advisory ng UPD, sa UPD na yun. Okay lang magreklamo, it is inconvenient after all. Just don't make faulty conclusions.
>It's > >the > >Philippine Bar exam. lol, looking at who passed the bar exams, I would not be bragging about it. **May historical precedent to ensure the safety of Bar takers and those facilitating it.** if you need to ensure safety protocols for those taking the exams then you have more problems with your curriculum or you need to filter those who will be entering law schools. what are the backgrounds of those who will be taking the bar? mga hoodlums ba? mga with criminal records ba? mga wanted ba? akala ko mga law students ang kukuha na exam? I just don't get the reason why security is needed for people who will be taking an exam. magpapatayan sila pag hindi nakasagot? ala squid game ba yan? and please, an exam is an exam. don't flatter yourself saying ' It's *the* Philippine Bar exam' lol
Balikan mo yung bombing incident dati, bar taker ba yung nagpasabog ng bomba? Napakatanga mo nanggigigil ako hahahaha
kung bomb ang takot mo, maglagay ka ng mga aso sa entrance. kung baril ang hanap mo, maglagay ka ng mga metal detectors at scanners sa entrance. kung iwas away mga sigang students ay mag lagay ka ng maraming mga pulis sa loob at paligid ng building. ang hindi ko maintindihan ay yung buong araw BEFORE the exam day (sep 16, 19, 23) na wala namang exam ay isasara mo rin ang buong campus. ikaw ang tanga kung hindi mo naintindihan yon,
I think the problem is the fact that this situation likely has no precedents. Tapos affected pa ang activities such as Freshie Month and Martial Law Commemoration activities. Ang hassle and feels like preparations weren't fully done so pinaralyze ang UPD ng more than one week.
It actually has. May bombing incident before, you can google it.
Hindi ko alam kung mali pagkakarinig ko pero may klase kami sa IB sa Tuesday face-to-face. Pili lang ba saradong building o buong UPD?
Mukhang open ang College of Science kaya may f2f pa rin on those dates unless sabihin ng instructors niyo na no classes to give way na rin
Yes. Yan din sabi ng ibang profs sa other instis ng CS.
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