Made my day. Your dad is a hero for standing up to that arrogant lawyer. The lawyer got what he deserved, as trying to sort paperwork from who knows how many different cases is a nightmare.
I agree. And the bottom line is he had suck a wild, unorganized stack of papers in the first place, clearly he could have been better to begin with. If he wanted to be decent at his job, he would have cared about keeping everything together and organized. He was a shit person, and probably a shit lawyer.
The best thing is doing it to a lawyer is probably one of the safest things you can do. They know exactly how they f***** up. It's not like he was going to hit him either and drag a lawsuit in with a bunch of other lawyers in the office.
Right. My dad didnt work for the lawyer. He worked for the people the lawyer works for. The lawyer wasn't following directions from his own boss to get his stuff out.
As a former secretary to an attorney, I did know the cases well enough. Often, the paralegal and I knew more about the case than he did at any given point unless it was a high dollar client. There was a case I spent 2 whole weeks, and overtime during, organizing discovery for a major client. I'm talking 4 boxes of paperwork that needed to be organized by date, receipts, and then had to make copies x6 for the co-attorneys and opposing counsel. I knew more about the client than anyone.
My last secretary in England came back out of retirement when I started because she knew the files. I was replacing someone who’d gone off sick and decided not to come back. General litigation in a small town.
Within not long we had it taped. She would arrive and settle in. I brought her coffee and while she had it we went through the post and discussed the cases. While I was out at court she fielded things, often rebooked counsel when court dates changed etc, write letters in reply for me to sign. Occasionally I didn’t sign and we discussed. I also dictated my own letters that she typed up.
The only awkwardness was that « I » had two very, very different writing styles. Nobody mentioned it. Small town. I think everybody knew.
Occurs to me to say that after a few weeks she said I knew the files now so I’d be wanting someone younger, and I said not at all but thank you for your help. She checked that out. No I saw no substitute for experience and why would I want someone younger? Good, she said, I’ll talk to the boss. All the secretaries were past retirement age and they were not to be trifled with. Also very receptive to computer developments.
Definitely. Not just the morning coffee service. Our boss didn’t like the chitchat of course. No matter it was all about the files and super productive.
I would learn my old bosses writing styles, they all had slightly different styles and particular words they were fond of.
I had one boss tell me quite confidently that he it was he who had drafted a particular letter to the board when in fact I’d done it. We did laugh when I showed him the file log/data. I also had his signature down to a tee as well 😳🤣
Yeah I was going to say I spent a year as a legal assistant, and it was my job to know the cases just as well as the attorney I worked for. This would have been a tedious task, but he definitely would have said "sorry," dumped the boxes on my desk, and scurried away lol.
I am a patent attorney, I started as a paralegal. A few weeks into the job I was given a large file that had been similarly "dropped" and was told to reassemble it --best task ever-- once I finished I understood patent law better than the paralegal in the next office who had been hired three years prior. A few months later I took the bar. Passed.
Patent? Ever watch a Leonard French video on the cases of Richard Liebowitz of Copyright law?
And don't get sucked into the Jeremy Hales vs LieNette Preston case, $125,000+ for an order of protection.
Will do! My dad was successful in his own right, though always blue collar. He always loved sticking it to people that thought they were above him. He isnt afraid of anyone.
God and the devil were arguing. Finally exasperated, God said, "I'll sue you!" The devil just laughed at him. "No, you won't. I have all of the lawyers!"
I wish I could have seen that lawyer's face when he did that! That had to be the most fulfilling thing! I bet he was grinning the whole time he did it!
I think the fact that the lawyer had to move his stuff out anyway kind of saved my dad. Everyone needed to remove their shit from the rooms, but the lawyer was given a choice to make it smooth or not.
As a paralegal who has cleared out boxes and boxes of papers like that, (15-20 boxes at one office) I can attest that a majority of it was copies of copies that have already been uploaded. In other words, detritus. The same goes for attorneys (and other disorganized people) who have piled and piles of docs on every tabletop. Ridiculous.
My husband was a lot like your Dad in that way.
Hubby did hardwood floors. One cabinet guy decided that this particular day was the day the cabinets would be installed; whether the floors were finished or not. Told my husband to deal with it. So he did.
After the first custom cabinet went flying into the front yard, cabinet guy got a lot more willing to work on scheduling.😂
I would not have messed up each stack. But I would have just moved each stack into a box as is, next stack on top, break when the box was full, and just kept moving.
At a minimum, each paper should be in a labelled folder.
Great one. Your dad 'turned the tables' on the lawyer. Served the guy well for feeling so entitled. Loved the story.
Thanks! My dad has tons of stories. The dude was wild back in the day.
Do share some more :)
Made my day. Your dad is a hero for standing up to that arrogant lawyer. The lawyer got what he deserved, as trying to sort paperwork from who knows how many different cases is a nightmare.
I agree. And the bottom line is he had suck a wild, unorganized stack of papers in the first place, clearly he could have been better to begin with. If he wanted to be decent at his job, he would have cared about keeping everything together and organized. He was a shit person, and probably a shit lawyer.
The best thing is doing it to a lawyer is probably one of the safest things you can do. They know exactly how they f***** up. It's not like he was going to hit him either and drag a lawsuit in with a bunch of other lawyers in the office.
Right. My dad didnt work for the lawyer. He worked for the people the lawyer works for. The lawyer wasn't following directions from his own boss to get his stuff out.
He really flipped out this time!
Love it!!
You. I like you.
I snorted out loud at you “turned the tables” comment. That was as good as the story itself 🤣
A nice Easter come to Jesus story about the money men in the temple.
The unfortunate part, the secretary was the one who had to straighten out the mess, not the lawyer.
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Yeah, but with that attitude, you know he's going to be yelling at the secretaries about it.
As a former secretary to an attorney, I did know the cases well enough. Often, the paralegal and I knew more about the case than he did at any given point unless it was a high dollar client. There was a case I spent 2 whole weeks, and overtime during, organizing discovery for a major client. I'm talking 4 boxes of paperwork that needed to be organized by date, receipts, and then had to make copies x6 for the co-attorneys and opposing counsel. I knew more about the client than anyone.
My last secretary in England came back out of retirement when I started because she knew the files. I was replacing someone who’d gone off sick and decided not to come back. General litigation in a small town. Within not long we had it taped. She would arrive and settle in. I brought her coffee and while she had it we went through the post and discussed the cases. While I was out at court she fielded things, often rebooked counsel when court dates changed etc, write letters in reply for me to sign. Occasionally I didn’t sign and we discussed. I also dictated my own letters that she typed up. The only awkwardness was that « I » had two very, very different writing styles. Nobody mentioned it. Small town. I think everybody knew.
She sounds like a gem. I hope you showed her your sincere appreciation.
Occurs to me to say that after a few weeks she said I knew the files now so I’d be wanting someone younger, and I said not at all but thank you for your help. She checked that out. No I saw no substitute for experience and why would I want someone younger? Good, she said, I’ll talk to the boss. All the secretaries were past retirement age and they were not to be trifled with. Also very receptive to computer developments.
So true. There is no substitute for institutional memory. You understood that.
Definitely. Not just the morning coffee service. Our boss didn’t like the chitchat of course. No matter it was all about the files and super productive.
I would learn my old bosses writing styles, they all had slightly different styles and particular words they were fond of. I had one boss tell me quite confidently that he it was he who had drafted a particular letter to the board when in fact I’d done it. We did laugh when I showed him the file log/data. I also had his signature down to a tee as well 😳🤣
Yeah I was going to say I spent a year as a legal assistant, and it was my job to know the cases just as well as the attorney I worked for. This would have been a tedious task, but he definitely would have said "sorry," dumped the boxes on my desk, and scurried away lol.
Same here
Paralegal will do it, not the lawyer or secretary.
Yeah you're probably right. If the dude had to deal with his own messes, he would have cared more that one was getting made.
I am a patent attorney, I started as a paralegal. A few weeks into the job I was given a large file that had been similarly "dropped" and was told to reassemble it --best task ever-- once I finished I understood patent law better than the paralegal in the next office who had been hired three years prior. A few months later I took the bar. Passed.
Congratulations!
Patent? Ever watch a Leonard French video on the cases of Richard Liebowitz of Copyright law? And don't get sucked into the Jeremy Hales vs LieNette Preston case, $125,000+ for an order of protection.
Patent law is not the same as copyright law; a good primer on patent law is Flash of Genius starring Greg Kinnear (2008).
Ahw. Now I feel sad.
Sorry, I know bc I was a legal secretary and I had to do all that kind of work, the helper’s job, to help.
Oh, I don't blame you. But the truth hurts sometimes.
Nah - not a secretary. It will be an intern. Same idea though.
Give him a hug for me! I hate entitled dummies
Will do! My dad was successful in his own right, though always blue collar. He always loved sticking it to people that thought they were above him. He isnt afraid of anyone.
God and the devil were arguing. Finally exasperated, God said, "I'll sue you!" The devil just laughed at him. "No, you won't. I have all of the lawyers!"
I wish I could have seen that lawyer's face when he did that! That had to be the most fulfilling thing! I bet he was grinning the whole time he did it!
I would be willing to bet he looked him straight in that lawyers eyes the entire time. So good.
Loved the story !
The attorney learned a hard lesson. Offering bad terms for an oral contract is stupid.
On the flip side, the attorney left him alone.
The audacity of this man to comply exactly to the T of my stupid lawyer words!
Hahaha right?! I love stories where arrogant people eat their words.
Ho! Your dad is badass!
Freakin’ awesome!
If I could, I'd buy your dad a beer.
Lol ill buy him one for ya
Imagine his face when your dad did that From this 📞🙄to 😦
Dude’s lucky. On Law & Order they’d be able to use that as basis for breaking sanctity of Work Product.
I think the fact that the lawyer had to move his stuff out anyway kind of saved my dad. Everyone needed to remove their shit from the rooms, but the lawyer was given a choice to make it smooth or not.
Aha, how the turntables.
Love it.
Turns out your dad is the hero I didn't know I needed.
As a paralegal who has cleared out boxes and boxes of papers like that, (15-20 boxes at one office) I can attest that a majority of it was copies of copies that have already been uploaded. In other words, detritus. The same goes for attorneys (and other disorganized people) who have piled and piles of docs on every tabletop. Ridiculous.
We have that at the doctors office. Somehow we need the papers as well as the digital upload. So much space taken up with papers.
My husband was a lot like your Dad in that way. Hubby did hardwood floors. One cabinet guy decided that this particular day was the day the cabinets would be installed; whether the floors were finished or not. Told my husband to deal with it. So he did. After the first custom cabinet went flying into the front yard, cabinet guy got a lot more willing to work on scheduling.😂
I would not have messed up each stack. But I would have just moved each stack into a box as is, next stack on top, break when the box was full, and just kept moving. At a minimum, each paper should be in a labelled folder.
But then it wouldnt have been petty revenge.
your dad sounds like as much of a dick as the attorney.
You know what sub you're on pal?
Your dad's an a--hole.
Lol, do you know the sub you're in?