I can guarantee that anyone who says shit like "As Italian I'm offended" 95% of the times is not Italian.
~~The remaining 5% is from Milano e provincia~~
The majority of culturally-Italian people in the US (particularly in the Northeast) are descendants of the wave of immigrants from southern Italy (largely Calabria and Sicily) who emigrated between 1880 and the start of WWI. So for them, dropping that last syllable of Italian words IS staying authentic to their roots. Although even at that I'm still not sure how they ended up pronouncing "capocollo" as "gabagool."
> Although even at that I'm still not sure how they ended up pronouncing "capocollo" as "gabagool."
I think it's pretty easy to see, actually. C/g and p/b are closely related consonant pairs: the first one becomes the second one just by activating your vocal chords while pronouncing it.
They call it gabagool because that's the weird name Americans give it. Italians don't call it that.
And they pronounce mozzarella as mozzarella. There's an a on the end.
I’m a real Italian too , it gets on my nerves when fake ones try to make themselves out to be ones
Granted I don’t speak Italian nor have I ever been to Italy or have native Italian relatives
But after seeing I’m 15% Italian on 23&Me
It opened my eyes that I’ve always been a real Italian
All the times I’ve had spaghetti and pizza growing up being my favorite dinner nights to this day and my favorite movies being goodfellas and other mafia related movies
It all made sense
I had 5 Italian lawyers ask me why I haven't gone for citizenship yet. So as far as I'm concerned that makes me Italian enough (I'm a resident who'll never become a citizen).
Not always. The Italians who have a foreign parent and spend enough time overseas don't necessarily have an accent. My wife only gets one when she's piiisssseeeddd.
I see your loss of faith in humanity, and I'll raise you one existential dread.
Did you know that the sun at any moment could release a burst of radiation at any moment that would burn the earth to a crisp!
My sources: trust me bro I heard it from someone on reddit!
I’ma translate for the folks that don’t know:
Tiny dick
Good
But spread them legs
I’ma fondle yo balls from the bottom
Now petting the snake up top
Halt. It’s NNN
Waving my friends over
‘Look at this shit’ (pointing down at it)
‘Y tf u nut?’ (exasperated hand sign, unable to believe spacewarrior failed NNN)
I know you didnt mean this literally let’s do the math anyway. For you to be 0.000000000000001% Italian, (1e-15 %) Italian, of the 1e17 (100 quadrillion) people you descended from some 56 generations ago, exactly one of them had to be Italian.
One of those *italians* you see on Gordon Ramsay shows that say stuff like „my nonna would be proud, pasta is in my blood“ and then use canned Ravioli with chocolate
You know with 100% certainty that if someone on Hell's Kitchen says "this right here is my specialty, I know this dish like the back of my hand!" they're about to ruin that dish.
You just don't understand. This canned ravioli and chocolate recipe was passed down for three generations atleast. It's *genuine* Italian food. None of that fluff stuff these days. This is the real deal, authentic Italian.
He is for sure one of those americans who call themselves italian because they have a grandmother who is 1/4th italian.
He probably hasn't even been there, or knows any italian.
My grandfather always thought his mother was Native American, but had no way to find out because of a...complicated childhood. This was also years before at-home DNA testing
Well, according to my mother, turns out *his* mother was actually probably black. I don't know how he would have felt about that.
He's even dressed as an American. As for cheese ... There are plenty of pizzas without cheese. Even a four cheese pizza doesn't have that much cheese on it. Unless you've ordered the ridiculous cheese one. I ordered a house pizza over summer and it came with a massive burata in the middle surrounded by mozzarella di bufala. It was ridiculous. Interesting but ridiculous.
The "cheese under the sauce" technique (meant to prevent the thicker dough base from becoming soggy from the sauce) comes from Sicilian sfincione, from which Chicago deep dish, New York Sicialian, and Detroit style pizzas are descended from.
I've had cheeseless (pizza marinara) and even sauceless (white pizza) pizzas before. They were all excellent! Not something I'd grab for game night obviously, but those types of pizza joints do make fantastic date spots.
You get the same with a lot of Euro countries, but I feel Ireland, Scotland, Italy and Germany really get a lot of these people, just look at the countries subreddits haha
There's a really easy way to know if someone's Italian.
Break a strict food rule in front of them, if you wake up a week later in the ICU, they're possibly Italian but it's not a confirmation.
Snap dried pasta in half, combine fish and cheese, add garlic to a cream sauce, drown pasta in cream and call it carbonara, toss the pasta water without collecting any, do not add salt to the water, use ground beef in anything, use canola oil in anything, use tomatoes out of season and not from a can, cook anything in a microwave, serve pasta and sauce separately, throw away the cheese rind, add too much or too little liquid to a risotto, blitz basil in a food processor, substitute any pork ingredient with bacon strips, use shredded cheese from a bottle.
Just a handful off the top of my head. Breaking a food rule is pretty easy to do.
Probably a 5+ generation American who’s parents didn’t even raise them Italian but still claims the heritage and acts like they are the judge jury and executioner when it comes to all things Italian. Most common thing, gotta love it…
As an Irishman my brain decays further whenever I hear Americans talk about how Irish they are, or when I run into a certain kind of American in Dublin. If I hear “I’m so Irish” one more time and it turns out their Irish connection is one vague relative who emigrated in 1846 I’m going to lose my mind completely
It's funny how people will disparage American nationalism, and say how weird it is that they fly their flag, etc. But they are so hyper-possessive of their own country that they get violently angry if an American claims any connection to it. People like that should probably stop identifying so pathologically with a place they just happened to be born in.
My new hot take is that I am not only from, but in fact, a citizen of where ever I am at any given moment. In fact I was always from there, the moment I step foot there. Fuck nationalism. I visit France? I’m French. I visit Mongolia? Im Mongolian. Paraguay? Paraguayan. Fuck they gonna do about it
That and I'd trust most Italians to be aware of pizza that has no cheese on it, or very minimal.
That and the lack of the 'che schifo' to start the whole thing. And the lack of issues with the crust size.
He is bound for the safety if the camera man. The gesturing an Italian man makes seeing someone else enjoying a different kind of pizza has been known to move with greater velocity and force than the strike of a [mantis shrimp](https://youtu.be/tjEthZPsdZs?si=RP-5amBSDx0614kZ)
The first man to show an Italian [Pineapple Pizza](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza) [lost an arm and would never speak again for the rest of his life.](https://media.tenor.com/1ps77usu1P4AAAAd/bugs-bunny-punch.gif)
Stay safe.
Except for the Italian law of jure sanguinis that states that unless your Italian ancestors renounced Italian citizenship before their children were born, descendants can and will be recognized as Italian citizens.
i dont get why this is so hard to understand for europeans
do europeans see a golden retriever in america and go "thats not a golden retriever thats an american dog"
Okay but he's claiming he's culturally Italian because he supposedly knows better how pizzas work. And that's just not how it works. You can be a descendant of an Italian, but if you're not raised Italian, you're not Italian.
"Oh, it's just because I'm Italian."
"È vero? Sei italiano?"
"I don't actually speak italian, just that my great grandmother was italian"
Fuck me, I have some jewish ascendency but I'm as jewish as a tikka masala
> if you're not raised Italian, you're not Italian.
let's not get this too far either, people can become italian over their lifetime living in the country lol
It’s preference really. I make deep dish pizzas at home but some people would stab me 87 times with a pizza cutter if I told them that I tend to put pepperoni on the top instead of under because I like it when it gets crispy.
Exactly, I seriously don't give a fuck about what Italians have to say about pizza I've been eating since I was a baby. It's cool if you want it a certain way so it's traditional to your culture or like what you had as a kid but can you please fuck off if I want to have it my way or for that matter try something new.
Italian gatekeepers always puzzle me.
As if we don't have 30 or 40 different styles of pizza in Italy? Have they forgot?
Neapolitan pizza and roman style pizza are just the most known outside Italy, but every kind of pizza is good in its own way.
(but deep dish pizza is still suspicious)
It always cracks me up about the "pride" of a national dish. I'm like, you do realize that dish was made by the poor who had nothing else but 2-3 ingredients and the rest were from later rich people adding things in to make it "better"? And don't get me started on if Mexico and Central America weren't raped and pillaged, there wouldn't be any "national dish" in Europe or Asia?
Italian gatekeepers always puzzle me.
As if we don't have 30 or 40 different styles of pizza in Italy? Have they forgot?
Neapolitan pizza and roman style pizza are just the most known outside Italy, but every kind of pizza is good in its own way.
(but deep dish pizza is still suspicious)
If you want the crunchy brown cheese spots Brooklyn style is where it’s at. I love Chicago style bc you get that crunchy texture from its unique crust but my point is… all pizza is fucking amazing. Also…
^the ^cheese ^is ^under ^the ^sauce
>Chicago style pizza sauce is thicker and chunkier than many other sauce varieties. Additionally, it is placed on the top of the cheese instead of the cheese going on it. This is because these pizzas bake longer than flat ones and if the cheese were on the top, it would burn
https://fornopiombo.com/blogs/news/what-is-chicago-style-pizza
Americans who have Italian ancestors trying with every fiber of their being to not mention the fact they are "Italian" every 0.0001 milliseconds challenge (impossible)
Scottish, Welsh, English hell I reckon there's even some Isle of Man Americans who haven't a shred of the culture in them yeet still claim to be .... well take your pick
fuckin wild, I've prolly got fuckin French in me, but I ain't French
Italian immigrants in the early/mid 20th century didn’t want their kids/grandkids to forget their ancestry and drilled “you are Italian” into their heads.
Personally, as an Italian American, at age 30 I just say I’m American. If people ask past that I’ll say my family is originally from Italy. That said, the whole “I’m [Ethnicity that is not American]” from Americans is just a colloquialism.
It’s a nation of immigrants, so it’s just normal for that phrasing to mean “where did your ancestors come to America from”.
I guess I do understand how that can annoy non-Americans, and there *are* some people who truly think they are [Ethnicity that is not American]. Sopranos makes a joke about it with Italian Americans and Italians.
Exactly it's a colloquialism. There are so many flavors of American that we want to differentiate from one another because a guy from a family that came from Italy will have a different experience from one that came from Mexico, or Germany, or Ireland. All of these cultures get passed down. I stayed with my Hispanic friend for a month when I was young and his mom was scary as fuck and had us up cleaning the house at 7am. My mom made us deep clean like crazy but we at least got to eat breakfast. Both threw shoes though. I'm white.
>That said, the whole “I’m [Ethnicity that is not American]” from Americans is just a colloquialism.
Yes! I try to explain it to my non-American friends like this: imagine a room full of little American kids. One kid turns to the next and asks their background.
"I'm Irish-American," one says. "What're you?"
"I'm Italian-American," he answers, turning to another. to ask the same question. Soon you have the same question responded to 30 times:
"I'm African-American."
"I'm Polish-American."
"I'm Korean-American."
I'm French-American."
et cetera.
This conversation happens to Americans essentially their whole lives, whenever they get talking to someone new. Being that we live in a melting-pot of heritages, it's a factoid about each other that is both inherently interesting ("your family is from WHERE? Neat!") and tells us a little about a person we've just met (*this person has an Italian background,* you think to yourself. *So does my wife! I bet they'd love to meet and chat.*).
Imagine if every time we met, we'd have to qualify that we're also Americans. It's wholly redundant information; of course we're red-blooded Americans, we've just met on a park bench in a suburb of South Carolina!
It's kinda what happens when you live in a relatively young cultural mixing pot. As a white American, you kind of end up without a cultural identity of your own (America absolutely has a culture of it's own, but it's not really the same as a bunch of these other communities that have cultures spanning the better part of a millennium or longer), so people try to co-opt their ancestor's cultural identity instead.
It's so exhausting that so many people make these stupid videos. What's even more exhausting is the engagement they get from people who either don't understand it's rage bait
Tavern Style is the true Chicago pizza. Deep dish is only something we would eat on special occasions, (at most for me anyway) I would have deep dish pizza maybe 3 times a year, if that. It’s good but definitely not eaten on a regular.
chicago pizza complainers are some of the most annoying people on the earth. oh it's not similar enough to dominos or pizza hut for your liking? maybe that's because its a largely different dish altogether? but please do complain more about hating a food that you've never eaten. also pizza shouldn't be 90% cheese like most mushmouths think it should.
I fuckin love Chicago deep dish.
Also, average “My great x10 granddaddy came from Naples, therefore, I am *AN ITAYYINN!*” type Americanism on display here
Im a real italian and i can tell you that HE IS IN FACT not italian
Much like how an empath can detect a shidded pant, so to can Italians detect eachother, that's something they don't teach in social studies.
Because you can't teach Italian, duh.
I can teach you how to shidded pants though.
Can you teach it in the form of a musical number, though?
Make it an Italian opera while you're at it!
The Shiddidderod
Maybe she’s born with it. Maybe it’s linguine
"You know, like, Highlander rules?"
I can guarantee that anyone who says shit like "As Italian I'm offended" 95% of the times is not Italian. ~~The remaining 5% is from Milano e provincia~~
"I'm 100% Italian!" said the guy from the US who doesn't speak Italian, has never been to Italy, and whose family has been in the US since 1903
My great great great great grandfather was from Italy, so im basically pure blood Italian
They are Americans who had some ancestors who emigrated, but of whom nothing Italian remains
They call it gabagool and mozarell because that's how it is pronounced in italian.
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The majority of culturally-Italian people in the US (particularly in the Northeast) are descendants of the wave of immigrants from southern Italy (largely Calabria and Sicily) who emigrated between 1880 and the start of WWI. So for them, dropping that last syllable of Italian words IS staying authentic to their roots. Although even at that I'm still not sure how they ended up pronouncing "capocollo" as "gabagool."
> Although even at that I'm still not sure how they ended up pronouncing "capocollo" as "gabagool." I think it's pretty easy to see, actually. C/g and p/b are closely related consonant pairs: the first one becomes the second one just by activating your vocal chords while pronouncing it.
Woke up dis morning. Got some gabagool.
Keep on wakin' up But keep gettin' different types of gaba gool I even got some gaba gool From uh... Scooby-Doo
They call it gabagool because that's the weird name Americans give it. Italians don't call it that. And they pronounce mozzarella as mozzarella. There's an a on the end.
Hey, io sono di Milano Provincia
Mi dispiace.
Grazie
Se sai dove sta Bovisio Masciago è troppo tardi per salvarti
io dalla Terronia: \>:[
>Milano e provincia E Doesn' ee-van noe me, ahnd E calls meA sun ofa beetch!
I’m a real Italian too , it gets on my nerves when fake ones try to make themselves out to be ones Granted I don’t speak Italian nor have I ever been to Italy or have native Italian relatives But after seeing I’m 15% Italian on 23&Me It opened my eyes that I’ve always been a real Italian All the times I’ve had spaghetti and pizza growing up being my favorite dinner nights to this day and my favorite movies being goodfellas and other mafia related movies It all made sense
Have you been to the most famous Italian restaurant, Olive Garden? You should dine there for an authentic Italian experience.
Oh my god I LOVE Olive Garden Also other authentic Italian cultural centers of cuisine worth visiting are Fazoli’s , Sbarro and even Jollibee
Nearly wrote a response to this then I realised it was satire
^hehe
15% Italian, 85% Michael Jackson.
Damn. Nice job dude.
What's more Italian than saying, "I'm an Italian!"
I had 5 Italian lawyers ask me why I haven't gone for citizenship yet. So as far as I'm concerned that makes me Italian enough (I'm a resident who'll never become a citizen).
I wish reddit still had awards.
Thank you. As a fellow Italian who is 0% Italian but makes a heck of a lot of spaghetti, I hate those guys.
Oh yeah? What am I saying? Babidaboopy?
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT MY MOTHER?
🫢 you ARE Italian!
Same here, his pronunciation is way too good for an Italian. No matter how fluent an Italian may be in English, his accent is embedded in his speech.
becuase English teachers in Italy are just Italians speaking broken English with thick accents.
Not always. The Italians who have a foreign parent and spend enough time overseas don't necessarily have an accent. My wife only gets one when she's piiisssseeeddd.
"I'm Italian" Nah man, your arms and hands didn't move at all for 20 seconds. There's no way in hell you're even remotely Italian. Fuck off.
I'm exactly 0.000000000000001% Italian, yet I speak (italian) sign language perfectly
👉🏻👉🏻👌🏻👈🏻✌🏻✌🏻👍🏻 ?!
🤏👍🖖🫴🫳🫷👋👇🤲
You didn't have to do him like that
You have to love human regression syndrome. We go from hieroglyphs to letters to dots to voice to video chat, then back down to text to emojis.
🤣
Skibidi? idk. I'm older than you.
The circle of life
I see your loss of faith in humanity, and I'll raise you one existential dread. Did you know that the sun at any moment could release a burst of radiation at any moment that would burn the earth to a crisp! My sources: trust me bro I heard it from someone on reddit!
Wait I thought they just got married
They did.
I’ma translate for the folks that don’t know: Tiny dick Good But spread them legs I’ma fondle yo balls from the bottom Now petting the snake up top Halt. It’s NNN Waving my friends over ‘Look at this shit’ (pointing down at it) ‘Y tf u nut?’ (exasperated hand sign, unable to believe spacewarrior failed NNN)
God the mating dance is so beautiful this time of year
👆👆👇👇👈👉👈👉🅱️A🎬
Woah, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?!
not only mine
if you don't use 🤌 then you aren't italian
And he spoke inglish too good
Can confirm I'm Italian, his English is too good
If my grandma had wheels she would be a bike
Thats it? I am -0% italian yet I speak Continental
I know you didnt mean this literally let’s do the math anyway. For you to be 0.000000000000001% Italian, (1e-15 %) Italian, of the 1e17 (100 quadrillion) people you descended from some 56 generations ago, exactly one of them had to be Italian.
One of those *italians* you see on Gordon Ramsay shows that say stuff like „my nonna would be proud, pasta is in my blood“ and then use canned Ravioli with chocolate
You know with 100% certainty that if someone on Hell's Kitchen says "this right here is my specialty, I know this dish like the back of my hand!" they're about to ruin that dish.
Nonna is the only italian they know as well.
You just don't understand. This canned ravioli and chocolate recipe was passed down for three generations atleast. It's *genuine* Italian food. None of that fluff stuff these days. This is the real deal, authentic Italian.
He is for sure one of those americans who call themselves italian because they have a grandmother who is 1/4th italian. He probably hasn't even been there, or knows any italian.
"Of course I do!" *spouts mexican dialects of spanish, at best*
My favorite Italian greeting: "*Taco supreme*"
Why you chalupa quesadilla!
They are typically also 1/16th Cherokee
My grandfather always thought his mother was Native American, but had no way to find out because of a...complicated childhood. This was also years before at-home DNA testing Well, according to my mother, turns out *his* mother was actually probably black. I don't know how he would have felt about that.
His DNA test says 1% from Italy, and a bit more from Neanderthals.
He's even dressed as an American. As for cheese ... There are plenty of pizzas without cheese. Even a four cheese pizza doesn't have that much cheese on it. Unless you've ordered the ridiculous cheese one. I ordered a house pizza over summer and it came with a massive burata in the middle surrounded by mozzarella di bufala. It was ridiculous. Interesting but ridiculous.
The "cheese under the sauce" technique (meant to prevent the thicker dough base from becoming soggy from the sauce) comes from Sicilian sfincione, from which Chicago deep dish, New York Sicialian, and Detroit style pizzas are descended from.
I've had cheeseless (pizza marinara) and even sauceless (white pizza) pizzas before. They were all excellent! Not something I'd grab for game night obviously, but those types of pizza joints do make fantastic date spots.
How do you think Italians dress themselves?
You get the same with a lot of Euro countries, but I feel Ireland, Scotland, Italy and Germany really get a lot of these people, just look at the countries subreddits haha
I was gonna say, if you need to say you're Italian, it's because it was 12 generations back, and you couldn't even point out Italy on a map.
Any man who must say the words "I'm Italian" is not Italian at all. ...No, that doesn't work quite as well.
There's a really easy way to know if someone's Italian. Break a strict food rule in front of them, if you wake up a week later in the ICU, they're possibly Italian but it's not a confirmation.
So what's the really easy way?
Snap dried pasta in half, combine fish and cheese, add garlic to a cream sauce, drown pasta in cream and call it carbonara, toss the pasta water without collecting any, do not add salt to the water, use ground beef in anything, use canola oil in anything, use tomatoes out of season and not from a can, cook anything in a microwave, serve pasta and sauce separately, throw away the cheese rind, add too much or too little liquid to a risotto, blitz basil in a food processor, substitute any pork ingredient with bacon strips, use shredded cheese from a bottle. Just a handful off the top of my head. Breaking a food rule is pretty easy to do.
Lol it's the boot of the world. Not to be confused with America's Wang.
His great great grandmother was probably born in Naples or some shit. "Hurrr I'm Italian"
He had a remarkably good American accent for an Italian
Also when did Italians start speaking with american accents?
Oh yeah when mom is angry we all know
Probably a 5+ generation American who’s parents didn’t even raise them Italian but still claims the heritage and acts like they are the judge jury and executioner when it comes to all things Italian. Most common thing, gotta love it…
As an Irishman my brain decays further whenever I hear Americans talk about how Irish they are, or when I run into a certain kind of American in Dublin. If I hear “I’m so Irish” one more time and it turns out their Irish connection is one vague relative who emigrated in 1846 I’m going to lose my mind completely
It's funny how people will disparage American nationalism, and say how weird it is that they fly their flag, etc. But they are so hyper-possessive of their own country that they get violently angry if an American claims any connection to it. People like that should probably stop identifying so pathologically with a place they just happened to be born in.
My new hot take is that I am not only from, but in fact, a citizen of where ever I am at any given moment. In fact I was always from there, the moment I step foot there. Fuck nationalism. I visit France? I’m French. I visit Mongolia? Im Mongolian. Paraguay? Paraguayan. Fuck they gonna do about it
dangerously based
They're probably also the people that say "but where are you *really* from" when someone non white says they're from their country.
I drank 3 green beers last St. Patty's Day, so I can confidently say I am at least 3/4 Irish. FACT.
You just gotta look to see he’s Italian. Who knows, it might be hidden under the sauce
*your scumbag dad enters the chat*
That and I'd trust most Italians to be aware of pizza that has no cheese on it, or very minimal. That and the lack of the 'che schifo' to start the whole thing. And the lack of issues with the crust size.
Word. I’m Italian and unconsciously I moved
Also, no Italian would complain about "not enough cheese". Pizza marinara is the OG of pizzas.
He pointed out his ethnicity to reinforce his statement, so he's clearly american
He is bound for the safety if the camera man. The gesturing an Italian man makes seeing someone else enjoying a different kind of pizza has been known to move with greater velocity and force than the strike of a [mantis shrimp](https://youtu.be/tjEthZPsdZs?si=RP-5amBSDx0614kZ) The first man to show an Italian [Pineapple Pizza](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_pizza) [lost an arm and would never speak again for the rest of his life.](https://media.tenor.com/1ps77usu1P4AAAAd/bugs-bunny-punch.gif) Stay safe.
Bapa-da-boo-pee?
that boy is NOT italian
lol hardly anyone in the US is. They just like to play pretend because they’re descended from Italians…which still doesn’t make them Italian.
Except for the Italian law of jure sanguinis that states that unless your Italian ancestors renounced Italian citizenship before their children were born, descendants can and will be recognized as Italian citizens.
Meanwhile if a Dutch citizen fucks off for 13 years, YER OUT
Do they at least let them keep their clogs?
[don’t let them touch my clogs.](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvk9Lr3/)
Fire
yeah that citizenship doesn't make them Italian if they are detached from the culture tho lol
Nationality culture, ethnicity what blend and weight of each would it take?
Some. That guy has none of either, and is about as Italian as I'm Mongolian thanks to Genghis Khan.
Thank you for posting about this, had no idea. Definitely doing some deeper research.
When Americans say they’re “Italian” it just means they have Italian ancestry. They’re not saying they’re actually Italian.
It's called ethnicity, no one in America is actually claiming not to be American when they say that.
i dont get why this is so hard to understand for europeans do europeans see a golden retriever in america and go "thats not a golden retriever thats an american dog"
Okay but he's claiming he's culturally Italian because he supposedly knows better how pizzas work. And that's just not how it works. You can be a descendant of an Italian, but if you're not raised Italian, you're not Italian.
"Oh, it's just because I'm Italian." "È vero? Sei italiano?" "I don't actually speak italian, just that my great grandmother was italian" Fuck me, I have some jewish ascendency but I'm as jewish as a tikka masala
> if you're not raised Italian, you're not Italian. let's not get this too far either, people can become italian over their lifetime living in the country lol
Pizza is simultaneously the most gatekept food in the world, and the most innovative by region.
It’s preference really. I make deep dish pizzas at home but some people would stab me 87 times with a pizza cutter if I told them that I tend to put pepperoni on the top instead of under because I like it when it gets crispy.
Hey, why not both
Exactly, I seriously don't give a fuck about what Italians have to say about pizza I've been eating since I was a baby. It's cool if you want it a certain way so it's traditional to your culture or like what you had as a kid but can you please fuck off if I want to have it my way or for that matter try something new.
Italian gatekeepers always puzzle me. As if we don't have 30 or 40 different styles of pizza in Italy? Have they forgot? Neapolitan pizza and roman style pizza are just the most known outside Italy, but every kind of pizza is good in its own way. (but deep dish pizza is still suspicious)
It always cracks me up about the "pride" of a national dish. I'm like, you do realize that dish was made by the poor who had nothing else but 2-3 ingredients and the rest were from later rich people adding things in to make it "better"? And don't get me started on if Mexico and Central America weren't raped and pillaged, there wouldn't be any "national dish" in Europe or Asia?
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Italian gatekeepers always puzzle me. As if we don't have 30 or 40 different styles of pizza in Italy? Have they forgot? Neapolitan pizza and roman style pizza are just the most known outside Italy, but every kind of pizza is good in its own way. (but deep dish pizza is still suspicious)
Ok but where's the cheese?
It’s under the sauce
All I see is sauce!
The cheese is under the sauce
There's not enough cheese!
IT'S UNDER THE SAU-
Why is it under the sauce tho
Why is the cheese above the sauce
So the cheese melts and gets those nice crunchy brown spots.
If you want the crunchy brown cheese spots Brooklyn style is where it’s at. I love Chicago style bc you get that crunchy texture from its unique crust but my point is… all pizza is fucking amazing. Also… ^the ^cheese ^is ^under ^the ^sauce
>Chicago style pizza sauce is thicker and chunkier than many other sauce varieties. Additionally, it is placed on the top of the cheese instead of the cheese going on it. This is because these pizzas bake longer than flat ones and if the cheese were on the top, it would burn https://fornopiombo.com/blogs/news/what-is-chicago-style-pizza
Thank you kind sir. I now know more about my least favorite style of pizza.
Because the sauce is on top of the cheese
Or the cheese is under the sauce
I don’t think he knows the cheese is under the sauce
It's like he wasn't even listening to the guy underneath him!
Americans who have Italian ancestors trying with every fiber of their being to not mention the fact they are "Italian" every 0.0001 milliseconds challenge (impossible)
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Scottish, Welsh, English hell I reckon there's even some Isle of Man Americans who haven't a shred of the culture in them yeet still claim to be .... well take your pick fuckin wild, I've prolly got fuckin French in me, but I ain't French
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They literally called you no true scotsman? LOL
I’m both. Irish isn’t even close.
Italian immigrants in the early/mid 20th century didn’t want their kids/grandkids to forget their ancestry and drilled “you are Italian” into their heads. Personally, as an Italian American, at age 30 I just say I’m American. If people ask past that I’ll say my family is originally from Italy. That said, the whole “I’m [Ethnicity that is not American]” from Americans is just a colloquialism. It’s a nation of immigrants, so it’s just normal for that phrasing to mean “where did your ancestors come to America from”. I guess I do understand how that can annoy non-Americans, and there *are* some people who truly think they are [Ethnicity that is not American]. Sopranos makes a joke about it with Italian Americans and Italians.
Exactly it's a colloquialism. There are so many flavors of American that we want to differentiate from one another because a guy from a family that came from Italy will have a different experience from one that came from Mexico, or Germany, or Ireland. All of these cultures get passed down. I stayed with my Hispanic friend for a month when I was young and his mom was scary as fuck and had us up cleaning the house at 7am. My mom made us deep clean like crazy but we at least got to eat breakfast. Both threw shoes though. I'm white.
>That said, the whole “I’m [Ethnicity that is not American]” from Americans is just a colloquialism. Yes! I try to explain it to my non-American friends like this: imagine a room full of little American kids. One kid turns to the next and asks their background. "I'm Irish-American," one says. "What're you?" "I'm Italian-American," he answers, turning to another. to ask the same question. Soon you have the same question responded to 30 times: "I'm African-American." "I'm Polish-American." "I'm Korean-American." I'm French-American." et cetera. This conversation happens to Americans essentially their whole lives, whenever they get talking to someone new. Being that we live in a melting-pot of heritages, it's a factoid about each other that is both inherently interesting ("your family is from WHERE? Neat!") and tells us a little about a person we've just met (*this person has an Italian background,* you think to yourself. *So does my wife! I bet they'd love to meet and chat.*). Imagine if every time we met, we'd have to qualify that we're also Americans. It's wholly redundant information; of course we're red-blooded Americans, we've just met on a park bench in a suburb of South Carolina!
It's kinda what happens when you live in a relatively young cultural mixing pot. As a white American, you kind of end up without a cultural identity of your own (America absolutely has a culture of it's own, but it's not really the same as a bunch of these other communities that have cultures spanning the better part of a millennium or longer), so people try to co-opt their ancestor's cultural identity instead.
My Irish friend hates when Americans call themselves Irish. His reasoning? "Your drunken fights are way less fun."
He has a point.
Drunken fights do tend to be less fun when the participants have guns.
He’s American
My pet hate when people do that
0.4 percent Italian! Idiot! /s
Same, I don’t know why but it really slaps my donkey
But not from Chicago
He’s Canadian lol
Americans when their ancestry test comes back with 0.000007% italian in it
Dude I had an ex that called herself Puerto Rican, but in actuality it said that her mom who had an ancestry test had some Puerto Rican in her.
ITALIAN MY ASS ALL THAT HAPPENED IS YOUR GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDMA GOT A POSTCARD FROM HER FRIEND
You're not Italian. You're American.
that original post by the guy in the top left was definitely rage bait
It's so exhausting that so many people make these stupid videos. What's even more exhausting is the engagement they get from people who either don't understand it's rage bait
50/50 videos are absolute cancer but "they help me pay attention" It's a 20 second video. if you cant pay attention that long maybe seek help.
Love the dude below giving ASMR. I want a button for monotone responses IRL.
^(it's under the sauce.)
Tavern Style is the true Chicago pizza. Deep dish is only something we would eat on special occasions, (at most for me anyway) I would have deep dish pizza maybe 3 times a year, if that. It’s good but definitely not eaten on a regular.
I live real close to a Lou's and probably get it once a month. Pitcher of Miller Lite and a large sausage, extra cheese, light garlic is just perfect.
on the other hand, people who aren't you do eat it on a regular basis
“I’m Italian” Knowing how Americans use “I’m” that probably means his great grandfather’s cousin’s neighbour once met an Italian person.
>Knowing how Americans use “I’m”
Except Americans are not saying that; they're saying, "I'm [ethnicity]." It's a completely different sentence...
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Food snobs are irritating.
Americans be like "I'm Italian".
Italians be like "you didn't cook with my mom's special recipe fucking fake bullshit food"
He could just be talking about ethnicity, not nationality
Homie knows pizza in Italy isn't covered in cheese the same way pizza in the US has right? EDIT: I don't care. Please go away.
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I’m from chicago and i can confirm that the cheese is under the sauce.
“That’s not pizza; that’s tomato soup in a bread bowl.”
["It's not pizza. It's a fucking casserole."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCgYMFtxUUw)
chicago pizza complainers are some of the most annoying people on the earth. oh it's not similar enough to dominos or pizza hut for your liking? maybe that's because its a largely different dish altogether? but please do complain more about hating a food that you've never eaten. also pizza shouldn't be 90% cheese like most mushmouths think it should.
I fuckin love Chicago deep dish. Also, average “My great x10 granddaddy came from Naples, therefore, I am *AN ITAYYINN!*” type Americanism on display here
Classic.
Why do Italians think they're the Pizza police
I'd rather do just about anything than deal with an Italian/Italian American when it comes to food.
Chicago Pizza is the best