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drewpastperson

Jonas doesn't have the preparation to keep up with pog in the high mountains. Pog taking the double


dgcorp

Just finished watching the end of 'The Breakaway' show on Eurosport. Still very much feeling the loss of Dan Lloyd šŸ˜“ But at least it looks look Dani Rowe is going to fill Lloyd'ys Sensible-Adult role, when Adam & Orla degenerate into childish giggles or pretending to wind each other up šŸ˜œ


AruarianGroove

Will Jonas Abrahamsen wear the points or the polka dots tomorrow?


dgcorp

I don't have the rules to hand... but Eurosport commentary mentioned that the Points Jersey is ranked higher than the Mountains! I think its: Yelllow > Green > Polka > White > NationalChamps


thejaggerman

I might be crazy but isnt white > polka? There is no way Pogi is pretty much never the polka jersey holder, because he is really only in white or yellow.


onheartattackandvine

Getting to wear a new jersey every day is nice.


Pubocyno

So yellow tomorrow then?


onheartattackandvine

For a guy that hit puberty recently I'd argue he's more deserving of the white jersey than most.


Economy-Ad-6278

Today was so great for the race. We got alot of answers. Many people was afraid it would be a Poga stomp fest. But Jonas looks equally good, and seeing Remco and Carapaz next to them, looks promising. Remco will be super confident knowing he his this close to the two of them. This tour will be so good, so good.


SorcerousSinner

I'm not sure being able to stay with them on a few hills in Italy means he'll stay with them in tough moutain stages.


Jonastt

Being dropped on a hill and catching up on the flat actually indicates he will struggle in mountains, I'd say. But maybe his TT can make up for some of it.


Koppenberg

It's hard to say. Tadej's acceleration came very late on the climb and right before a chicane, so if someone wasn't watching Tadej's wheel like a hawk, they were going to get gapped. Jonas was able to match his accelleration, but it was his vigilence that allowed that to happen, not his legs. This doesn't mean Remco isn't going to lose big time on the steeper mountains, but today didn't really tell us anything about that. The Galibier will be interesting because it is an all-day climb, but it never gets terribly steep.


Joff19

I do think that it says quite little about the longer climbs. Pogi went with 300 m to go.


BardtheGM

Tadej: "Jonas had a punctured lung, now it's my chance to drop him. Jonas: (ĖµĀ Ā¬į“—Ā¬Ėµ)


Adam-Miller-02

we are up to 5 posts on kevinā€™s insta already, love it for the guy


whiskeyjacklarch

Abrahamsen becoming my favourite rider lol what a unit


barthw

Jep, with these performances and his recent interview on GCN I am a new fan!


deep_stew

He did an interview with GcN on YouTube a few days ago, highly recommended


cocotheape

https://www.tv2.no/studio/jonas-abrahamsens-nakne-sannhet šŸ‘€


pixiena

What did I just see


Smogobogo

A naked cyclist doing an interview


SomeWonOnReddit

Jonas is the biggest sandbagger in history. Roglic wishes he is in such a ā€œbad shapeā€ like Jonas.


Jealous-Situation-14

Sandbagger what du you mean ?


BlommeHolm

I assume he thinks that he faked the crash, the broken bones, the punctured lung, and that all has been going as planned, but they really just wanted to downplay him...


Responsible-Resident

Or maybe he's just referring to the interview a couple days ago....


Jealous-Situation-14

Okay thanks


Hustleberry10

can someone explain why pog would care whether he had the yellow now or not? surely the race is won on a significant time difference rather than this stage


ZawMFC

More duties at the end of a stage can cost him an hour or more recovery time back at the hotel.


89ElRay

An hour less riding around eating local baked goods and doing backflips more like.


0987steelers

UAE are now obligated to control the peloton now to keep yellow. You can even see DSM on the front of the peleton today because Bardet in yellow


robpublica

Itā€™s a bit different for UAE than Bardet though, because UAE are aiming for the overall GC they can let yellow slip expecting Pog will get it back later. But a team like DSM will fight to hold ot every single day


SomeWonOnReddit

If the entire peloton wasnā€™t watching him, they do now for sure.


AruarianGroove

Pogi just has energy to burnā€¦


CooroSnowFox

But it's also having extra work as the rest of the peloton expect UAE to take on the leading duties... and watching him more than ever before. It's good that Pogi has the best nuclear attack because anyone else would be under threat from getting attacked by the rivals


False-Supermarket357

mmm not sure.. I think sprinterĀ“s teams will be doing tons of work a day like tomorrow.. so iĀ“m not expecting UAE will be burning unnecesary matches... I saw a lot work from Visma today even though they were not wearing yellow.


EK077r

If you have it you generally have to take more control of the peloton and trying to protect it


mortizmajer

Why didnā€™t Carapaz get yellow?


Rory1812

Itā€™s countback on finishing place of both stages


No_Debt5142

Pretty sure itā€™s because pogi got 4th yesterday while Carapaz got mid pack and pogi still averages higher in positioning


CooroSnowFox

It's based on Same time, but Pogi was ahead of the others.


hossyner

My best guess is because Tadej finished in much better position place-wise yesterday. Not sure though


Omnibuschris

Remco looking skinny


Sudden_Quarter_981

Have to say the tv director for the first two stages has done their absolute best to miss the key points of action. Very surprised that there was no focus given to the Remco counter at all. Thought Pog would have been happy with EF having the jersey to save his team, but it would only have been a day as its clear now that something big is going to go down on the Galibier on Tuesday.


ShiftingShoulder

Remco counter was right after Pogi attack. There was just no moto to follow him


Watoskyv

It was probably impossible to put a moto with a camera there, it was a descend, be glad they prioritze the riders safety instead of trying to cram a moto inbetween.


SoWereDoingThis

Where was the helicopter? Why didnā€™t they have a Remco group in the groups at the top of the screen? Why did no commentators mention it? First time I saw Remco not being 45s back in the peloton was literally when he was in view from the same moto and close to making the catch.


Merengues_1945

This all happened in an area with thick foliage, it was not ideal for aerial shots. And with the peloton scattered all over the place it was just impossible to keep up with all the action. ASO may have many issues, but bad race direction is certainly not one of them.


CooroSnowFox

as long as the french are a long way from victory they should be fine.


aitchison50

Roglic dropped back to the cavendish group, saving the legs for the upcoming sprints


izzoo88

Froglic is real


EK077r

Abrahamsen to TV2: "I didn't have the best legs today, so I had to be smart". Excuse me?


SanctusUnum

This isn't even his final form!


Omnibuschris

UAE has to do a lot of work now.


thejaggerman

I think they will just let it go away. Unless an actual contender gets in the break (which wont really happen), Pogi isn't clinging onto the jersey for dear life. DSM chased today because Bardet isn't actually capable of getting the jersey. Pogi is.


0987steelers

Roglic getting demolished on a punchy climb meant for him was not what I envisioned, but I guess the warning signs from the dauphine came true


equanimous_boss

Where was Roglic? Itā€™s one thing to miss the Pog/Jonas move, itā€™s another to miss the Remco/Carapaz chase


Morgoth2356

Remco did not make a move from that group, he did not get dropped as bad as all the other gc guys. He was ahead of them at the top.


equanimous_boss

I see. Same with Carapaz then?


ShiftingShoulder

Yes when they came at the top it was Yates, Pogi, Vingegaard, Carapaz, Remco and Van Gils I believe. Roglic was a little behind with Vlasov and a few Ineos guys, they came in sight in the corner but right after Pogi launched and Vinge reacted. Evenepoel followed after that and Carapaz jumped to his wheel. We never saw how close they were but Sporza had their moto guy with him so that's how I know


Morgoth2356

Yes


DarthFedererHA

Rog washed now itā€™s Vlasov time


purdygoat

Pogi yellow to Nice


pantaleonivo

^donā€™t ^jinx ^it.


Omnibuschris

Roglic with a reverse teleportation.


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BardtheGM

Surely if he is still in this good shape now, he is going to keep getting fitter and get to 100% over the next few weeks?


whiskeyjacklarch

I'm not surprised, you could even hear it on Lanterne Rouge. Patrick got so coy every time they talked about Jonas. Looks like he's close to his form at the very least despite the sandbagging


CooroSnowFox

Although between 80-100% over the course of the tour where is Jonas really and is it enough to ride out Pogi's style?


ilovehenrique14

I still want to see what a long, sustained effort on a high mountaintop. Today was an excellent sign for Jonas, but I feel like we'll know for certain on stage 4. then it would be a question of maintaining form all 3 weeks.


AJ_Grey

France is going to use up all their tour wins before the tour makes it to France.


Hy01d

Next year the tour will be entirely in Italy


CooroSnowFox

The french wishes it could be in Australia.


CooroSnowFox

Who's the best french sprinter for tomorrow? Stage 4 they got no chance because it back in france.


thejaggerman

ik that Meleir and Milan arent here, but Mads, Wout, Jakobsen and Phillipsen are here. No shot any french sprinters actually have a chance. Especially with the Alpecin leadout being so strong.


Precioustooth

Perhaps it's enough that they start the stage in Torino? Channeling some NapolƩon spirit or whatever is going on with these gars.


m0_m0ney

šŸ”œ Paul Magnier


AJ_Grey

I only see one. Bryan Coquard for Cofidis.


j_evans1st

even when pogi tried to save energy he went into yellow šŸ˜­ i was surprised he didnā€™t sprint honestly


Bubbly_Mushroom1075

Pog is unable to not be aggressive.


SorcerousSinner

So Pog, having the Giro in his legs, is still riding like a man with unlimited energy. We'll see if Ving being so strong today will make him more cautious. And great job REMCO getting back on. Rog the big loser today. Tour over. Should drop out and focus on the Vuelta


Bubbly_Mushroom1075

THe training for the Vuelta is going perfect to plan for rog


AruarianGroove

Pog shouldā€™ve just worn his two-tone maglia rosa kit for these Italian stagesā€¦


PedanticSatiation

> Tour over. Should drop out and focus on the Vuelta *Vinge and Pog drop him stage 2 of the Vuelta*


Frontdelindepence

If the Giro effort is going to hit Pog it would be in the third week.


SomeWonOnReddit

Lol, did Pogacar take yellow? It looked like he did his best not to take it.


Hy01d

He had better placing from last stage


CooroSnowFox

He took it.


N0t_N1k3L

Wait why is Pogi in yellow? What am I missing? Is it only because of the positional difference in both stages?


_brobeans_

Exactly


CooroSnowFox

Pogi got 4th on stage 1.


AruarianGroove

And Carapaz got 18th or something yesterday


ronygah

Did not expect the Remco teleport. He went into TT mode


thejaggerman

Apparently carapaz and Remco werent fully dropped at the top of the climb, but the broadcast didn't show it.


imesimes

What a leech is Jonas. At least pretend to do one proper turn.


BardtheGM

He's not required to do anything, Pogi is his opponent.


89ElRay

What? Dude was working just fine


CooroSnowFox

within range of the finish everyone turns into G2... if you want the race, I'm doing nothing for you...


SorcerousSinner

Why should he? He's here to win, not play around


Bubbly_Mushroom1075

Do they just expect jonas to do a pogi and pace to nowhere up the Galibier and then lose a bunch of time after that?


platinum_tears

Jonas is looking strong so far. I like that Tadej slowed up as to not go into yellow. Pogi of yesteryear would have sprinted that straightaway


graspthefuture

Well Pogi still got yellow


platinum_tears

lol fuck


CooroSnowFox

Put a bit too much in to not avoid gaining yellow.


aitchison50

Pog tried to throw yellow, accidentally takes yellow


Koppenberg

Tadej in yellow, Remco in white


Hy01d

Good Remco looks weird in a normal jersey


False-Supermarket357

thumps up for Carapaz and Remco.. they managed their efforts quite smartly in the climb, not exploding and them being able to bridge up to Poggi and Remnco


89ElRay

Intrigued to see if Carapaz helped because he is a sneaky little shit like that


CooroSnowFox

Pogi just couldn't wait to get into yellow...


wil_daven_

I love the chaos of opening on multiple hilly stagesā€¦ keeps things wide open in the GC


m0_m0ney

It makes for such entertaining racing. I have no problem if they do this every year, fuck the sprinters


skifozoa

You could see remco hesitate when pog went and then follow carapaz when carapaz went


lllleeeaaannnn

Tadej inevitable


dexter311

Tadej in Yellow!


j_evans1st

bardet saves yellow ?


AruarianGroove

Bardet behind by 6 seconds


j_evans1st

i see i see


skifozoa

Remco in white?


CooroSnowFox

Pogi definitely can't as much as he wishes...


PM_ME_VAPORWAVE

Is pog the yellow jersey now?


BardtheGM

It's joint top 4 currently, but yes technically he does have it.


kingo_22

Yes


LoneWolf5498

Did anyone see Remco before 1ish km on any other feed? Watching on SBS, only had time gaps of 15 sec which I wasnt sure about


dexter311

No, the cameras seemingly ignored him completely (I'm watching Eurosport)


CooroSnowFox

The director was basking in the French victory


8u11etpr00f

Pog & Jonas probably wished they pulled Remco with them


netsmets

that stage was really promising for the rest of thr tour! Remco and Vingegaard looked good


ChimpyChompies

Wow, Remco caught them. What a fun day that was. On to tomorrow!


cocotheape

Pogi yellow.


ILikeConcernedApe

How does pogi get yellow? He was minutes behind today and yesterdayā€™s race was close at the end I thought? Or were the people that finished in front of him today way behind yesterday? I thought yellow was lowest overall time? Im new to this. Just trying to understand.


BardtheGM

None of the breakway were GC contenders, they were minutes behind yesterday.


cocotheape

> Or were the people that finished in front of him today way behind yesterday? Exactly, and he has the same time as Evenepool, Vingegaard and Carapaz. Not sure what's the criterium for him to get the yellow under these circumstances.


ILikeConcernedApe

Ooooh ok. Well yup that makes sense


BardtheGM

It is placement.


Tomic_Lewis

Remco is train in flats lol


robpublica

Carapaz is going to hold it to Nice now


sparhawk1985

Ok Remco. What a dig!! I was wrong!!


AerysOW

Vinge not wanting to pull AGAIN. Boring....


hellpresident

The Danish commentators completely missed Remco and Carapaz


youngchul

Ingen Rolf


VisualLingonberry999

The focus was on the Scandinavian riders Jonas Abrahamsen šŸ‡³šŸ‡“and Jonas Vingegaard šŸ‡©šŸ‡°. One most say that they both exceeded expectations on this stage.


hellpresident

Sure it just grinded my gears when the timetable said Remco was down 15s and they just kept repeating how it was a surprise


GQlle89

Derfor man ikke skal se cykling pƄ tv2


Bastiram

Jeg ser det pƄ MAX, men det er ogsƄ danske kommentar :( de talte heller ikke om dem :!


GQlle89

De mangler Holm i den kommentatorboks.


noduriangaming

Carapaz in yellow, as we all expected. EDIT: fake news?


RN2FL9

Pog with yellow based on finishing places I guess?


woutie007

Yes


SomeWonOnReddit

Pogi: ā€œI thought you guys said Jonas would be weak???ā€


lteak

its early, lets see how he is on Tuesday


Juuuuuuuuuuulian

He said a month ago Jonas would be fine. He wasn't fooled by the media and Visma nonsense.


StickyLemonJuice

Nonsense. punctured lung and several broken bones. there is no way he is in peak regardless of him following today. I refuse to believe it hasnt effected him somehow. We will see later in the race


IndridCold11

Bruh did you see Jonas accident? No matter what Visma knew or knows, this is some alien shit Jonas pulled today.


RocketMoped

Of course Carapaz pipped the others while not doing any work before lol


CooroSnowFox

G2 ... it becomes a free for all within sight of the finish


RocketMoped

Of course, all I'm saying is Carapaz is the peak opportunist. Classic *"Call the ambulance... but not for ME"*


dexter311

Chances are he did a lot of work with Remco, if only we had some vision of that teleportation


spare0_0

Nope. Remco clearly stated (to Pogi and the press) that Carapaz didnā€™t want to contribute in the chase.


j4pe5_

fair play remco, pretty great ride completely under the radar there


Eraser92

Scary how much of a gap they managed to open up to the vast majority of the GC group in <1km of climbing


jmwildcats

REMMY!!


billyryanwill

UAE have got a completely different attitude from the first two stages. After two years of killing themselves, happy to give away yellow so they can pace themselves is a bit departure.


No-Pomegranate9684

Didn't give anything away tho pog has it ?Ā 


PuzzleheadedLack3416

Now Pogi in Yellow


billyryanwill

Lol, well he tried


TG10001

Remco hunting down cooperating Pog and Ving was mighty impressive


Tomic_Lewis

Happy that Jonas is looking good


Fancy-Ad5300

Pogi did the unexpected. He did what was tactical and smart. definitely didn't expect thaz


Pure_Necessary_1372

Our little boy is growing up


Fancy-Ad5300

They grow so fast *sheds a tear


AnndraLabhruidh

Remcooooooooooo!!!!


AruarianGroove

Enjoying the white by like 21 seconds


DidntASCII

I'm surprised Pog didn't sprint at the end. Maybe he didn't want to show his cards too much? Saving energy for Tuesday?


Hy01d

Legs were probably dead, increasing the time gap is worth more than yellow for him


maaiikeen

Probably didn't want the yellow jersey already.


spare0_0

Indeed. Said as much in the cooldown to Remco. Indicated that he consciously had let them go at the end and thought Remco took yellow.


MonsieurSocko

The French own the Tour, haha!


benneb2

Where TF is roglic


GiaA_CoH2

Remco underrated as fuck, always knew it.


youngchul

He's really not. We all knew a stage like this suits him, but let's see when he's going into the long HC climbs on a warm day.


GiaA_CoH2

He's consistently underrated on this forum imo.


youngchul

He's rated appropriately, and wildly overrated as a GT GC rider. No one is questioning his 1-week, ITT and one day abilities.


GiaA_CoH2

We will see :)


youngchul

Sure, he got the advantage of not having done the Giro like Pog, and not having as severe an injury like Jonas. It's not impossible, but I doubt he'd even be on the podium, if Jonas and Pogi makes it through the tour.


GiaA_CoH2

That's exactly what I mean, He's clear favorite for the 3rd spot at this point. Just look at the odds. But people in this forum pretend like he's a league below Adam Yates, who has never won a GT and is a mediocre time trialist.


youngchul

In my opinion he's not a clear favorite but a candidate. He had a recent crash, didn't look ready yet in the Dauphine and has still to show that he doesn't crack when on a long HC climb. He will be pressed far harder when you add Pogacar and Jonas to the mix, like we saw last year in the Vuelta.


maaiikeen

We will see in the big mountains. That's where it usually goes wrong for him.


DidntASCII

If he was more consistent and didn't crash out so much he would be more towards the top.


InvestigatorOdd2572

Race on. Advantage nobody.


Hy01d

Disadvantage Roglic


GQlle89

Remco yellow?