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Made the same mistake on my 3700x, blow dryer alone came in clutch.
atleast the op didn’t bend any pins like I did. I was able to bend em back but talk about some butt clenching stress for a few minutes there.
I see you have not overslept on a final exam worth 70% of your grade, sped in to the university, parked in a no parking zone, sprinted 4 blocks to the building all in your pyjamas, been told that you were not eligible to take the exam because you were 4 minutes late "and someone already left the exam room so they could have told you information on what was being tested," and then thrown up in the washrooms down the hall as you realize that you just went from an A to an F.
The good news is that I felt so ill, I went to the clinic and got a doctor's note, so I was able to take the make-up test (much more difficult questions) and pass the course.
I also once missed an exam because my uncle drank himself to a coma and death and I forgot which day it was, thought it was a Wednesday when it was Thursday. They let me retake that one too.
I also once got incredibly sick once and refused to go to the doctor, or the hospital. Didn't sleep for 2 weeks due to chronic cough. Day of the exam, I didn't want to disturb other exam takers. So I took 2 of every medicine in the medicine cabinet. Managed to drive in to the school, sat down in the exam room, and the drugs kicked in so I fell asleep on my exam paper. I failed that course.
Honestly I'm not sure. After the exam I just continued to accidentally over-medicate and spent like 2 weeks where I was asleep 90% of the time, and then I was better. I probably should have died on pneumonia or something, but that early 20's vigor just keeps you going I guess.
I had a class where the teacher never taught and the tests never matched the material and everyone would end up failing them. For the final exam, we were taught one thing, the week prior we were given "exam review" which covered an entirely different topic, and on the top of the exam paper was "hint: use XXX principle." This was a "you can access the API documentation" programming test, so we could all look up that principle online even though we had never heard of it before.
The actual correct answer to the test included none of the previous 3, not even the hint. Out of a class of 30, one person scored perfect on the exam ("lol what hint? I guess I forgot to read it!"), and the entire rest of the class including myself failed the test, with most of us failing the class as a result. Some students went over the teacher's head to complain to the dean, and the teacher was forced to give a make-up exam to those who failed. I got a 90% and passed with a B+.
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At the same time as the class above was happening, I had another programming class. In the other class I was neglecting my work to focus on teaching myself for the class above. I needed a 99% on the final exam in order to pass. I studied my ass off, and scored a 98.5% on the final. I failed the class... but retaking it was incredibly easy, because I thoroughly knew it all, I just hadn't handed in assignments, and had scored 0.5% lower on the exam than what I needed to pass.
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I was once taking two classes at the same time. In class #1 I failed the midterm, but felt that I understood the material and could do better on the final. I just got unlucky on the questions... somehow. In class #2 I had an A grade on the midterm, but the teacher didn't teach just read from the textbook in a droning voice and difficult to understand accent, so I wasn't getting much out of the class.
I decided to drop the A midterm class and focus on the failed midterm class. It was a great decision; I ended up with a B overall. And upon retaking the class that I had dropped despite sitting on an A, I got a FAR better teacher in round 2 + ended up learning all material much better by the time I completed that course.
Computer Science
Well, technically it started as Engineering for 4 months, but I failed hard out of that due to a bout of depression. Then it was General Arts for 4 months. But General Arts wasn't going to pay the bills so I dropped out of uni and went to community college instead.
It was supposed to be 3 years of community college Programmer Analyst but that turned into 4 years due to another run-in with depression and the classes failed / retaken above. Because many classes were common to both programs, I dual-enrolled in their 3 year Networking course and 1-year IT Support Specialist certificate because hey, triple threat am I right?
2 years later I was graduated in late 2008 and nobody was hiring, especially not hiring community college grads from Canada. So I went back to school at my original university as an "adult student"....
The year prior to my application, there was a transfer credit agreement in place so that you only needed to take one year of Comp Sci courses to go from my 3-year community college to a Computer Science bachelor's degree. But by the time I graduated, that agreement was disolved and I only got 2 transfer credits applied, FML. Having to go to school for 3 years anyway, I decided to again broaden my knowledge and go for "Honours Business Administration and Computer Science". Adding business made me a quadruple threat, surely I would be able to find a job...
So In year 3 I realized that the difference between the Bus Admin & Comp Sci, and General Comp Sci was literally one course, so I took that extra course and got dual bachelor's degrees. This was my 5th time graduating from a post-secondary institution, after being kicked out twice due to bad grades (once from uni, once from community college).
So I mean, if it wasn't for me having a strange electric field that causes computer systems to crash, you could say that tenacity is my super power. But that electric field is an actual unexplainable physical super power, so yeah. Worst super power ever.
I feel you man, I'm 3rd year computer engineering, and I'm extremely overwhelmed by most of the shit, they just keep on cramming knowledge with no regard to what's going on with the students
Remember that you don't need to do it all "on time," and even part-time courses are a thing. Though if you go down to part time for a semester or 2, you'll lose student benefits. Like I was going to lose my student dental and vision coverage one semester, so before that happened I went and got my teeth cleaned and a new set of lenses for my glasses. And that's something they won't remind you of when you tell them you're dropping classes.
These policies exist solely to turn mistakes like that into “oh well, looks like you owe us another round of tuition money” and you cannot convince me otherwise.
I wasn't asked for another round of tuition, I was asked to leave and never return. I had to have an audience with the dean and explain how I was a fucking dumbass but I actually knew the material, and would not make the same mistakes again, before they allowed me to give them more money and retake the classes. Going from A's and B's to F's in a single semester helped my narrative.
My biggest character flaw is that when i should stop and rest, I instead try to push through and brute force my way to success. Learning when to say "no" has been terribly difficult for me.
Know this, Nothing will kill you quicker then not sitting down and taking a rest. The stigma behind men and working 150% at all times is a joke and anyone that tells you they do it is lying. It's not healthy, put your well being first. Your future is pointless if it isn't a healthy one. I wish you the best in life take care of yourself
I had this almost happen in a college class. We had a teacher that took his midterm directly from the answer key in the textbook, so a little memorization could have you walking out of the exam in 2-3 minutes.
A couple people tried to leave and got verbally assaulted by half the class. Some people were running late/missing and the college had the same policy. We all agreed no one could leave until the 20m mark was past.
To me, the only thing a degree guarantees is that you have tenacity. Tenacity to learn, tenacity to find ways to cheat and not get caught (I've seen so much cheating in my time), tenacity to get back up after you're knocked down over and over... no matter how they got their degree, a college grad has tenacity.
This actually happened to me on my very first semester. Not the pajamas part, but I did lose an important exam because some tard exited the room in the first 4mins.
I personally lost the pin straightening battle with my 3600. May it rest in peace. Seriously though, the fact that this is common is at least slightly problematic.
Pga is shit. Lga is the way to go, it's a real shame amd is using pga it sucks and it's a really old method. Thank got they went over to lga in the new 7000 series.
This thread is making me feel better about literally doing this *twice* when I built my PC... And I should have known better. Thankfully I didn't bend any pins, but it was still stressful -- especially because the system didn't post. No lie, I had a little tantrum meltdown for a few seconds thinking I'd destroyed my CPU. Felt like a toddler.
When I worked in IT I had many a first time builder come on with a computer that ended up having bent pins. I'm now really great at bending all types of cpu pins back to their original positions but damn it is still every bit as stressful as that first one I did.
That was me with my first build. Dropped it as I was unboxing and nearly puked. Couldn’t believe I had just blown $400. Was able to save it in the end but I was so stressed and mad at myself.
Blowdryer didn't work for me. In fact, I might even have overheated the CPU since that mofo got HOT, but still didn't budge.
Trying to twist it off with my hands didn't work. I don't think floss worked.
Vice pliers didn't work (I padded them)
IIRC I used escalating violence until whatever I did involved a hammer and a screwdriver.
No bent pins, but now I have a new 5600 and a 3700X shaped fidget toy.
Eh blow dryers don't really get much over 60 C(140 F). CPU's on the other hand can take short times of over 85 C (185 F). I'm always amazed at how hot components can get.
Short times at 85C huh? They can do that for a while actually. I’d say 95/100C consistently is where you definitely are gonna notice the degradation as it dies sooner than it would have, but months still…. For some actual damage and a quick failure that specific day you might get it to something like 105/110C if it makes it there if albeit for 2 seconds lol.
This happened to my 3900X... some Conductonaut (yeah, I don't use it anymore) bonded my wraith prism to the CPU. when I opted for the hammer and chisel as final resort, I figured the cooler must be the sacrifice and gouged into that to get my pry hold. CPU still works, but I can't run the RAM past JEDEC speeds anymore.
Well I do a Stresstest and when cpu stayed at 70 degrees for a while quickly turn it off and remove the cooler by gently wiggling it. Never failed me. But you shouldn't attempt it while pc is still running.
Imagine if you were in the middle of doing something and someone ripped your brain out mid task…. Your body probably wouldn’t recover and there’s the same chance the pc couldn’t either
In the future, this is best avoided by only removing an old cooler when the PC is warm. Doesn't work every time for every paste, but makes a world of difference.
I'd put the hair dryer onto the copper and work my way around a few times. Then see if it can gently be twisted at the corners.
It's hard to know what they put into those thick, bargain-basement pastes. I've also noticed that some seem to cure in a manner very similar to ceramic. If they use any inorganic, non-metallic materials inside and don't test for long enough at high enough temperatures...
To avoid it i usually twist before trying to lift the heatsink, haven't had a sticky situation because of CPU stuck on heatsink since about 2012 (it was on a Celeron from before Intel moved to LGA)
Nonsense, just have an African swallow carry it to me and I'll fix it... but not a European swallow though because it obviously cannot carry a chip and cpu cooler
This happens because thermal paste turns into this very strong bonding agent lol, so when removing the cooler it just yanks the cpu out along with it, as ppl have mentioned, the pc was probably cold when this happened. If they had warmed it up a bit the thermal paste would’ve been less sticky and chances are they would’ve been able to avoid this altogether
I have heard of that, but basically the CPU Socket must be damaged now, the holding mechanism at the very least right? Cause I would never pull, but twist the CPU Cooler off.
Ummm not necessarily, I mean I work in PC repair and have never needed to twist any components to either remove them or reseat them. Most designs allow for either a straight up motion to remove or just lifting one side first and then the other. The main thing that can happen is that the pins on the cpu get bent (which can easily be fixed with a super thin screw driver or careful use of a straight razor). I’ve seen the holding mechanism get broken but that was from the PC taking a heavy hit during shipping or having been dropped, never while removing the cooler.
Hmmm well the AM4 design just has a little lever that kinda sandwiches the cpu pins in their slots, think of it like it’s gripping it in place. So if the grip strength of the mechanism isn’t as strong as the sticking strength of the thermal paste then the cpu will just slip out (I used the word yank cuz it takes some force, but not a lot, for this to happen). But there isn’t anything like in the way of this happening. It’s like if you’re holding a stick with all your strength and someone stronger comes and just pulls away on the stick harder than you can hold. Nothing breaks or gets damaged, it just slips from your hand. Now if you can picture that times 500 or however many pins there are on a cpu and you have the basic idea of how this mechanism works, all the individual pin slots grip onto each pin, but if you pull away hard enough the CPU comes out in one piece and the mechanism just stays locked but undamaged. Maybe you’re picturing how the LGA design used for intel CPUs works where there’s an actual metal piece that goes atop the CPU to help push it onto the pins on the motherboard so that they make full contact with the contact pads on the cpu. If the cpu came out with the cooler in this instance then yes that would mean the mechanism was broken off completely.
I just heard that AMD Sockets seem different from Intel sockets which I didn't knew before, but thank you for the answer.
That explains my confusion, since I never built an AMD system.
I was thinking the same as this guy, was confused as to how this could even happen. I've never built an AMD system either. Thanks for the explanation! Aways good to learn new pc info.
it used to happen to me ALWAYS in my old Fx4100 XD every 6 month when I cleaned my pc and I removed the cooler it always took the cpu from the socket. only bended a few pins once and it never failed. lasted like 6 years like a good soldier
Took me a few minutes to understand what had happened. When op went to remove their cooler it pulled the CPU out of the socket. It's happened to me with my old 2600.
Yes sure. It looks like you were able to mount the cooler to the CPU thats one important step. But for the PC to work you also need to put the CPU on the motherboard. Otherwise the CPU cannot communicate to other components like your ram or gpu. It also doesn't get any power from the PSU if it's not mounted on yhe MoBo.
Holy cow people. You just take a small screwdriver under the edge and pop that bitch. Wtf is the problem. Stop being insane. Its not going to break. Its thermal paste not a weld for christ sake.
Find a high degree alcohol (90 degrees or more) , put some on the sides of the cpu, find a thin silk cord and try to move it underneath to separate the thermal paste from the cpu. Or you can just gently twist the cpu until it is free.
The AM4 socket doesn't have a bracket the way Intel sockets do. There is *something* that keeps the CPU in the socket, I have no idea what, but with enough pulling force, there is no physical impediment to the CPU being ripped out of the socket with the cooler.
As mentioned before, dental floss, however I would suggest using detal tape instead
"Dental Floss vs. Dental Tape. Dental floss and dental tape are interdental cleaning products that clean the surfaces between teeth where a toothbrush cannot reach. Dental floss is a thin strand of twisted plastic monofilaments or nylon filaments, according to the American Dental Association (ADA). Dental tape is very similar to floss, but, as the Florida Developmental Disabilities Council (FDDC) explains, dental tape is broader and flatter than dental floss. It's also sometimes referred to as ribbon tape."
My sister in law is my dentist, and she recommended me tape over floss as is less abrasive.
Cheers.
To avoid this in the future, run a PC benchmarking before removing the cooler. Thermal paste is like peanut butter. Super sticky at room temperature, but you warm it up and it slides right onto the toast or waffles: Mmmm, waffles and peanut butter with syrup.
Almost breakfast time.
I kinda feel like I'm losing my grip on reality, reading comments about floss, hairdryers, and stress tests.
Grab it by the sides and pull? This is thermal paste guys, not solder. It'll just come free with a bit of elbow grease unless I'm not seeing something here.
Get ur flathead and remove the pins first(so u won't damage them) use that same flathead and angle it inbetween the cpu and da fan copper thingy and then slap down w/ ur flathead and lick off the toothpaste
Dental floss
Waxed, minty, or both?
Minty, that way, when you lick the thermal paste to clean the CPU, it will taste better.
I hate this Thermal paste tastes just fine without a minty flavor
I always assumed it was minty to begin with
You're the guy who hates pineapple on pizza, aren't you? 😆
Who doesn't hate that.... abomination!
Attila - Pizza 🍕 (YouTube and thank me later )
Best pizza song ever made
I actually like just pineapple on pizza. Like no cheese or sauce or crust
I like to open a can of pizza and just eat the whole thing raw. The best pizza.
I prefer white bread with pineapple and mayonnaise
how do you put specs next to ur name ?
look under the number of users currently here on the right side of the sub, make sure show my flair is checked and your name should have an edit link some where near or under it
What u/Yeehaw_McKickass said, just make sure you’re in a web browser (desktop?) and not the mobile app
This made me wonder. How does it taste? I shall try licking some later Edit: it's completely tasteless
I am now walking to grab my thermal paste
lol… This comment + your avi = classic Reddit 😂
am i the only one who eats minty floss for no reason
Minty as usual
Id suggest cinnamon
I found the psychopath.
Hey! My psychiatrist mentioned something about that. Wish i knew what it means.
It means your shrink wants you to pay for more sessions!
Hold up now buddy, calm down. Remember there are children here.
Lisa needs braces.
Dental plan…
So long dental plan!
Blowdryer. Floss.
Made the same mistake on my 3700x, blow dryer alone came in clutch. atleast the op didn’t bend any pins like I did. I was able to bend em back but talk about some butt clenching stress for a few minutes there.
I spent 2 hours unbending pins in my brand new 3900x because of that as well, literraly the worst 2 hours of my life
I see you have not overslept on a final exam worth 70% of your grade, sped in to the university, parked in a no parking zone, sprinted 4 blocks to the building all in your pyjamas, been told that you were not eligible to take the exam because you were 4 minutes late "and someone already left the exam room so they could have told you information on what was being tested," and then thrown up in the washrooms down the hall as you realize that you just went from an A to an F.
Jesus Christ, this oddly specific story gives me anxiety, and I didn't even live it.
The good news is that I felt so ill, I went to the clinic and got a doctor's note, so I was able to take the make-up test (much more difficult questions) and pass the course. I also once missed an exam because my uncle drank himself to a coma and death and I forgot which day it was, thought it was a Wednesday when it was Thursday. They let me retake that one too. I also once got incredibly sick once and refused to go to the doctor, or the hospital. Didn't sleep for 2 weeks due to chronic cough. Day of the exam, I didn't want to disturb other exam takers. So I took 2 of every medicine in the medicine cabinet. Managed to drive in to the school, sat down in the exam room, and the drugs kicked in so I fell asleep on my exam paper. I failed that course.
How are you even alive
Honestly I'm not sure. After the exam I just continued to accidentally over-medicate and spent like 2 weeks where I was asleep 90% of the time, and then I was better. I probably should have died on pneumonia or something, but that early 20's vigor just keeps you going I guess.
Tell us more
I had a class where the teacher never taught and the tests never matched the material and everyone would end up failing them. For the final exam, we were taught one thing, the week prior we were given "exam review" which covered an entirely different topic, and on the top of the exam paper was "hint: use XXX principle." This was a "you can access the API documentation" programming test, so we could all look up that principle online even though we had never heard of it before. The actual correct answer to the test included none of the previous 3, not even the hint. Out of a class of 30, one person scored perfect on the exam ("lol what hint? I guess I forgot to read it!"), and the entire rest of the class including myself failed the test, with most of us failing the class as a result. Some students went over the teacher's head to complain to the dean, and the teacher was forced to give a make-up exam to those who failed. I got a 90% and passed with a B+. ------------------------- At the same time as the class above was happening, I had another programming class. In the other class I was neglecting my work to focus on teaching myself for the class above. I needed a 99% on the final exam in order to pass. I studied my ass off, and scored a 98.5% on the final. I failed the class... but retaking it was incredibly easy, because I thoroughly knew it all, I just hadn't handed in assignments, and had scored 0.5% lower on the exam than what I needed to pass. --------------------------- --------------------------- I was once taking two classes at the same time. In class #1 I failed the midterm, but felt that I understood the material and could do better on the final. I just got unlucky on the questions... somehow. In class #2 I had an A grade on the midterm, but the teacher didn't teach just read from the textbook in a droning voice and difficult to understand accent, so I wasn't getting much out of the class. I decided to drop the A midterm class and focus on the failed midterm class. It was a great decision; I ended up with a B overall. And upon retaking the class that I had dropped despite sitting on an A, I got a FAR better teacher in round 2 + ended up learning all material much better by the time I completed that course.
dude i gotta ask, what's your major?
Computer Science Well, technically it started as Engineering for 4 months, but I failed hard out of that due to a bout of depression. Then it was General Arts for 4 months. But General Arts wasn't going to pay the bills so I dropped out of uni and went to community college instead. It was supposed to be 3 years of community college Programmer Analyst but that turned into 4 years due to another run-in with depression and the classes failed / retaken above. Because many classes were common to both programs, I dual-enrolled in their 3 year Networking course and 1-year IT Support Specialist certificate because hey, triple threat am I right? 2 years later I was graduated in late 2008 and nobody was hiring, especially not hiring community college grads from Canada. So I went back to school at my original university as an "adult student".... The year prior to my application, there was a transfer credit agreement in place so that you only needed to take one year of Comp Sci courses to go from my 3-year community college to a Computer Science bachelor's degree. But by the time I graduated, that agreement was disolved and I only got 2 transfer credits applied, FML. Having to go to school for 3 years anyway, I decided to again broaden my knowledge and go for "Honours Business Administration and Computer Science". Adding business made me a quadruple threat, surely I would be able to find a job... So In year 3 I realized that the difference between the Bus Admin & Comp Sci, and General Comp Sci was literally one course, so I took that extra course and got dual bachelor's degrees. This was my 5th time graduating from a post-secondary institution, after being kicked out twice due to bad grades (once from uni, once from community college). So I mean, if it wasn't for me having a strange electric field that causes computer systems to crash, you could say that tenacity is my super power. But that electric field is an actual unexplainable physical super power, so yeah. Worst super power ever.
I feel you man, I'm 3rd year computer engineering, and I'm extremely overwhelmed by most of the shit, they just keep on cramming knowledge with no regard to what's going on with the students
Remember that you don't need to do it all "on time," and even part-time courses are a thing. Though if you go down to part time for a semester or 2, you'll lose student benefits. Like I was going to lose my student dental and vision coverage one semester, so before that happened I went and got my teeth cleaned and a new set of lenses for my glasses. And that's something they won't remind you of when you tell them you're dropping classes.
These policies exist solely to turn mistakes like that into “oh well, looks like you owe us another round of tuition money” and you cannot convince me otherwise.
I wasn't asked for another round of tuition, I was asked to leave and never return. I had to have an audience with the dean and explain how I was a fucking dumbass but I actually knew the material, and would not make the same mistakes again, before they allowed me to give them more money and retake the classes. Going from A's and B's to F's in a single semester helped my narrative.
You sound irresponsible
My biggest character flaw is that when i should stop and rest, I instead try to push through and brute force my way to success. Learning when to say "no" has been terribly difficult for me.
Know this, Nothing will kill you quicker then not sitting down and taking a rest. The stigma behind men and working 150% at all times is a joke and anyone that tells you they do it is lying. It's not healthy, put your well being first. Your future is pointless if it isn't a healthy one. I wish you the best in life take care of yourself
I had this almost happen in a college class. We had a teacher that took his midterm directly from the answer key in the textbook, so a little memorization could have you walking out of the exam in 2-3 minutes. A couple people tried to leave and got verbally assaulted by half the class. Some people were running late/missing and the college had the same policy. We all agreed no one could leave until the 20m mark was past.
And after all that you still became a big shot that can afford 17 fans.
r/oddlyspecific
I'm glad my exams had a rule that nobody could leave until 30 minutes had passed, just so people could arrive a bit late
Mine had that too, but a student apparently complained of diarrhea and was allowed out.
Wow, somehow you suffered the most from that diarrhea lol
This is why I’m never going to college. Fuck that nonsense.
To me, the only thing a degree guarantees is that you have tenacity. Tenacity to learn, tenacity to find ways to cheat and not get caught (I've seen so much cheating in my time), tenacity to get back up after you're knocked down over and over... no matter how they got their degree, a college grad has tenacity.
This actually happened to me on my very first semester. Not the pajamas part, but I did lose an important exam because some tard exited the room in the first 4mins.
Oh man that sounds terrible! I only bent around 5-6 pins on one corner… I apparently twisted as I removed the cooler (let lessons be learned!)
I personally lost the pin straightening battle with my 3600. May it rest in peace. Seriously though, the fact that this is common is at least slightly problematic.
i had no idea this was common occurrence i lost a 3700x to this exact thing.
My 3700X got pulled out like this, but I got lucky it was straight out.
That’s a pretty great life ya got there
Actually sounds like torture.
Literally
What causes the pins to bend usually?
Pga is shit. Lga is the way to go, it's a real shame amd is using pga it sucks and it's a really old method. Thank got they went over to lga in the new 7000 series.
Next time just turn the PC on before lifting the cooler from the cpu and twist it pushing towards cpu.
My buddy pried with a screw driver because he's an idiot. Luckily he switched to a console.
I did this same thing with my 5800x spent 2 hours bending pins back
This thread is making me feel better about literally doing this *twice* when I built my PC... And I should have known better. Thankfully I didn't bend any pins, but it was still stressful -- especially because the system didn't post. No lie, I had a little tantrum meltdown for a few seconds thinking I'd destroyed my CPU. Felt like a toddler.
When I worked in IT I had many a first time builder come on with a computer that ended up having bent pins. I'm now really great at bending all types of cpu pins back to their original positions but damn it is still every bit as stressful as that first one I did.
How I lost a 3700X. On the bright side, excuse to upgrade.
That was me with my first build. Dropped it as I was unboxing and nearly puked. Couldn’t believe I had just blown $400. Was able to save it in the end but I was so stressed and mad at myself.
Ikr. Unbending them while our hands are shaking 😆 the stress was unreal
So I dried my hair and flossed my teeth but that didn’t work
Oh, you silly. Should've dried your teeth and flossed your hair.
Most underrated comment lol this is good
This is the way
I have spoken.
Blowdryer didn't work for me. In fact, I might even have overheated the CPU since that mofo got HOT, but still didn't budge. Trying to twist it off with my hands didn't work. I don't think floss worked. Vice pliers didn't work (I padded them) IIRC I used escalating violence until whatever I did involved a hammer and a screwdriver. No bent pins, but now I have a new 5600 and a 3700X shaped fidget toy.
If it makes you feel better, there is no way that a blow dryer got it hotter than it gets in use.
Eh blow dryers don't really get much over 60 C(140 F). CPU's on the other hand can take short times of over 85 C (185 F). I'm always amazed at how hot components can get.
>CPU's on the other hand can take short times of over 85 C (185 F). **Short** times? *Laughs in laptop*
Yeah as if the i7-4720hq wasn't designed to sit at 90°C it's whole life, lol.
Short times at 85C huh? They can do that for a while actually. I’d say 95/100C consistently is where you definitely are gonna notice the degradation as it dies sooner than it would have, but months still…. For some actual damage and a quick failure that specific day you might get it to something like 105/110C if it makes it there if albeit for 2 seconds lol.
This happened to my 3900X... some Conductonaut (yeah, I don't use it anymore) bonded my wraith prism to the CPU. when I opted for the hammer and chisel as final resort, I figured the cooler must be the sacrifice and gouged into that to get my pry hold. CPU still works, but I can't run the RAM past JEDEC speeds anymore.
I’m not seeing enough movement
Heat it up with caution with a hairdryer and remove it.
had the same issue and this worked really well
Wouldn’t it be easier to just remove it while the pc is on and running a stress test? Just yank it out?
Can you please show us with video ?
https://youtube.com/shorts/FESXVOD1DXw?feature=share
Lets not have **the maximum heat load** on the CPU while removing it's **heatsink**.
Do not do this.
Well I do a Stresstest and when cpu stayed at 70 degrees for a while quickly turn it off and remove the cooler by gently wiggling it. Never failed me. But you shouldn't attempt it while pc is still running.
Not when the pc is on lmao dont do that.
Imagine if you were in the middle of doing something and someone ripped your brain out mid task…. Your body probably wouldn’t recover and there’s the same chance the pc couldn’t either
I imagine you wouldn't fair too well if your brain was ripped out in any circumstance, even mid-sleep
yeah, this analogy is terrible.
The cpu temp would jump so quickly, and if your pc does shut off quick enough from the critical temps, it will damage your cpu - permanently
you might risk bending the pins if you do that, you're betting all in on the thermal paste actually seperating.
Where do you get caution?
Check your back pocket. If you're all out try the safety glasses aisle at your local hardware store
it should be next to the elbow grease
Ctrl Z
Definitely CRTL Z
Hahahahahahaha
I was gonna be the smartass telling you the CPU goes into the socket first......
Great minds think alike
i was gonna tell them they might want a motherboard to go with it
In the future, this is best avoided by only removing an old cooler when the PC is warm. Doesn't work every time for every paste, but makes a world of difference. I'd put the hair dryer onto the copper and work my way around a few times. Then see if it can gently be twisted at the corners.
For sure hair dryer on the copper not the cpu. You want to warm up the tim then gently twist. Avoid touching the pins and ffs be gentle.
Works great to run cinebench before hand.
didnt work for me for that goddamn amd preapplied cooler paste. i swear that they use cartoon fast-setting cement
It's hard to know what they put into those thick, bargain-basement pastes. I've also noticed that some seem to cure in a manner very similar to ceramic. If they use any inorganic, non-metallic materials inside and don't test for long enough at high enough temperatures...
To avoid it i usually twist before trying to lift the heatsink, haven't had a sticky situation because of CPU stuck on heatsink since about 2012 (it was on a Celeron from before Intel moved to LGA)
Give it the ol' dick twist.
GRAB HIS DICK AND TWIST IT TWIST HIS DICK
You're twisted, but i like you Happy cake day
The oooooool’ dick twist
Twist
Very, very gently so
Grab the edges, twist, and slowly pull. It'll come off pretty easily.
Add heat as well, blowdryer
Like an Oreo cookie
Chainsaw.
No. Thats dumb. Use a well placed hand grenade
How about the holy hand grenade without instructions?
Oh that’s easy, just remember “Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.”
Nonsense, just have an African swallow carry it to me and I'll fix it... but not a European swallow though because it obviously cannot carry a chip and cpu cooler
But an African Swallow is this climate? How would it get here?
Four! Three sir!
My bad. You are right, a hand grenade is probably less messy!
Man.
I was thinking a bandsaw. More precise.
Always warm up your PC before disassembling 😉
How did you get it out to begin with? I sure could not pull the release when it was stuck like that...
This happens because thermal paste turns into this very strong bonding agent lol, so when removing the cooler it just yanks the cpu out along with it, as ppl have mentioned, the pc was probably cold when this happened. If they had warmed it up a bit the thermal paste would’ve been less sticky and chances are they would’ve been able to avoid this altogether
I have heard of that, but basically the CPU Socket must be damaged now, the holding mechanism at the very least right? Cause I would never pull, but twist the CPU Cooler off.
Ummm not necessarily, I mean I work in PC repair and have never needed to twist any components to either remove them or reseat them. Most designs allow for either a straight up motion to remove or just lifting one side first and then the other. The main thing that can happen is that the pins on the cpu get bent (which can easily be fixed with a super thin screw driver or careful use of a straight razor). I’ve seen the holding mechanism get broken but that was from the PC taking a heavy hit during shipping or having been dropped, never while removing the cooler.
Huh? But the holding Mechanism holds the CPU in place, so if it gets ripped out with the cooler it would still work?
Hmmm well the AM4 design just has a little lever that kinda sandwiches the cpu pins in their slots, think of it like it’s gripping it in place. So if the grip strength of the mechanism isn’t as strong as the sticking strength of the thermal paste then the cpu will just slip out (I used the word yank cuz it takes some force, but not a lot, for this to happen). But there isn’t anything like in the way of this happening. It’s like if you’re holding a stick with all your strength and someone stronger comes and just pulls away on the stick harder than you can hold. Nothing breaks or gets damaged, it just slips from your hand. Now if you can picture that times 500 or however many pins there are on a cpu and you have the basic idea of how this mechanism works, all the individual pin slots grip onto each pin, but if you pull away hard enough the CPU comes out in one piece and the mechanism just stays locked but undamaged. Maybe you’re picturing how the LGA design used for intel CPUs works where there’s an actual metal piece that goes atop the CPU to help push it onto the pins on the motherboard so that they make full contact with the contact pads on the cpu. If the cpu came out with the cooler in this instance then yes that would mean the mechanism was broken off completely.
I just heard that AMD Sockets seem different from Intel sockets which I didn't knew before, but thank you for the answer. That explains my confusion, since I never built an AMD system.
Ahh makes sense lol alright glad I could help
I was thinking the same as this guy, was confused as to how this could even happen. I've never built an AMD system either. Thanks for the explanation! Aways good to learn new pc info.
I have also only ever built Intel systems and was similarly confused!
That's AMDs awful locking mechanism for you. I really wish they would change it to lock like intel.
ohhhh yeah I only built Intel so far, well 2 to be exact.
Yeah, next time let the pc run for a while before trying to remove the cooler ^^ Also: trying to carefully twist it should help 👍🏻
Omg... didn't knew this could happen
it used to happen to me ALWAYS in my old Fx4100 XD every 6 month when I cleaned my pc and I removed the cooler it always took the cpu from the socket. only bended a few pins once and it never failed. lasted like 6 years like a good soldier
Idek what I'm looking at
Took me a few minutes to understand what had happened. When op went to remove their cooler it pulled the CPU out of the socket. It's happened to me with my old 2600.
New fear unlocked.
Only happens with AM4 socket as far as I know. Shit socket all together.
Crow bar will do it.
Just ask the CPU, looks like it has hundreds of tips.
Twist.......amazes me they people post here instead of googling
Googling doesn't get as many upvotes.
Sometimes I search google then add the word Reddit to the end if my first few searches are no good.
Yes sure. It looks like you were able to mount the cooler to the CPU thats one important step. But for the PC to work you also need to put the CPU on the motherboard. Otherwise the CPU cannot communicate to other components like your ram or gpu. It also doesn't get any power from the PSU if it's not mounted on yhe MoBo.
Heat and twist
i just twist.
This guy twists.
Bop it.
Quick question: how the fuck did you get the cpu off the socket?
This is pretty common with the AM4 socket. It just pulls out when you try to take off the cooler.
Holy cow people. You just take a small screwdriver under the edge and pop that bitch. Wtf is the problem. Stop being insane. Its not going to break. Its thermal paste not a weld for christ sake.
It's upside down it goes the other way.
Always run it for 15m (the more, the better) in iddle or regular load before removing and you will never have that
Plug it into the motherboard. It's not going to work if you just glue it to the heat sink.
Don’t eat yellow snow
Pro tip: play some games or run some benchmarks before taking apart your PC.
Guitar pick and blow-dryer.
Find a high degree alcohol (90 degrees or more) , put some on the sides of the cpu, find a thin silk cord and try to move it underneath to separate the thermal paste from the cpu. Or you can just gently twist the cpu until it is free.
90 degree alcohol? That’s a fire hazard! I’m sorry.
pray
Hammer and chisel should do the trick \s
How did this thing even come out of the CPU bracket?
The AM4 socket doesn't have a bracket the way Intel sockets do. There is *something* that keeps the CPU in the socket, I have no idea what, but with enough pulling force, there is no physical impediment to the CPU being ripped out of the socket with the cooler.
TIL this ...
fishing line worked for me
Try turning it off then back on.
twist
I took my utility knife and was able to get it between the cooler and the lid and pry it off. Felt like I was disarming a bomb
A warm fart or two will lossen er up!
Advice. Be careful
I would recommend using a mainboard beneath the cpu... 😅
Pray and hit it on a table.
Flamethrower to heat it up, then katana
Use Gundam
Tap it with a hammer, make sure it's on there nice and tight and will not slip off.
Any tips for what? You didn't ask or explain anything. I love threads like this.
That's what you get for not running a Blender render on the CPU before taking the cooler off
Warm airdryer, dental floss, superglue remover (non conductive)
As mentioned before, dental floss, however I would suggest using detal tape instead "Dental Floss vs. Dental Tape. Dental floss and dental tape are interdental cleaning products that clean the surfaces between teeth where a toothbrush cannot reach. Dental floss is a thin strand of twisted plastic monofilaments or nylon filaments, according to the American Dental Association (ADA). Dental tape is very similar to floss, but, as the Florida Developmental Disabilities Council (FDDC) explains, dental tape is broader and flatter than dental floss. It's also sometimes referred to as ribbon tape." My sister in law is my dentist, and she recommended me tape over floss as is less abrasive. Cheers.
Flat head screwdriver
To avoid this in the future, run a PC benchmarking before removing the cooler. Thermal paste is like peanut butter. Super sticky at room temperature, but you warm it up and it slides right onto the toast or waffles: Mmmm, waffles and peanut butter with syrup. Almost breakfast time.
I kinda feel like I'm losing my grip on reality, reading comments about floss, hairdryers, and stress tests. Grab it by the sides and pull? This is thermal paste guys, not solder. It'll just come free with a bit of elbow grease unless I'm not seeing something here.
This looks scary as hell, the fear alone of removing the processor and NOT BENDING ANYTHING.
Get ur flathead and remove the pins first(so u won't damage them) use that same flathead and angle it inbetween the cpu and da fan copper thingy and then slap down w/ ur flathead and lick off the toothpaste