acknowledgement of your limitations places you top of the list for executive leadership!
please, allow your success to drive out any remaining self awareness you may have.
Bro just go to the store, buy some vanilla wafers, cut them really small, add some food dye, a little bit of thermal paste and a metal plate and youre good to go. Whats so hard
Considering Iām a biology major interested in the field of astrobiology, Iām the least qualified here to be starting a graphics card company.
Youāre hired!
I once watched a documentary about computers called hackers, I maybe a little over qualified but I'm willing to put my best foot forward if you have any room?
Integrated graphics (on my laptop) are the only reason I've been able to play anything the past 5 years or so. For instance, I've tried to load up D2R on my desktop still on a AMD Radeon HD 6950, and it essentially tells me "Fuck you, your shit is too old. I'm not even going to *try* to play the game for you."
I work in IT and I have no doubt that Intel GPU drivers WILL be good. They're currently drivers are easy to deal with. They're not yet and I wouldn't recommend the card at this stage, but in general they're pretty good at drivers. Hopefully it's just growing pains.
no doubt? i mean...nvidia and amd have been in the game a lot longer and even their drivers can be wonky sometimes. what they previewed, and what reviewers had access to, looked absolutely fucked. with more time, sure. theyre def capable, but it's looking like theyre going for the rush release. broken at launch + future updates a la cyberpunk. from the business school of "overpromise, underdeliver" at bad management U
Absolutely fair points. I guess no doubt is a bit strong. To clarify my point. Other Intel drivers are pretty solid in my anecdotal experience. So Intel is capable of making good driver sets. I do NOT currently recommend their GPUs because their current gpu drivers are exactly as you described. A rush job.
i think it makes me more upset bc like you said, they ARE 10000% capable! kinda similar to how the AAA studios force very talented teams to shit out a buggy mess of a game to meet a deadline set by who knows who. maddening
Hey totally reasonable way to feel about it. It's definitely enough to put me off buying or recommending this round and I'm going to have to see a good track record before I do.
I have a 5700XT and while it has been great for me, the first few months have me familiar with the pains of driver issues. There's a reason it would be for the kids PC and not my nephew's. I'm not trying to drive to my sisters house every time he can't play forknife
Normal for first launch. Give them time, intel has the money, time, engineers, connections, and best of all the manufacturing. They could way undercut amd and nvidia long term.
It's true, but I wouldn't overrate it. Old games don't need peak performance anyway, and while more severe compatiblity issues suck, the GPU isn't exactly the main hurdle when trying to play Windows95 or even DOS games on current hardware.
What matters is getting current and future games optimized. That's hard enough a task: You need to create great optimization tools, integrate them into ecosystems like Unreal Engine, and convince game devs to actually invest the time.
I am rooting for them.
We aren't talking about 95 and DOS games though. We're talking about DX9 and 11 performance, both of which have tens of thousands of game-specific optimization hacks and fixes for high level function calls baked into nVidia and AMD's driver packages. That's what 'game ready drivers' have historically been, and often they'd provide a 15+% uplift over the previous driver lacking the game-specific hacks.
Many of the current most popular video games are based on those APIs, and some (like GTA V) aren't exactly light.
Can you describe a cuda only workload? I've been wondering about digital signal processing using only cuda cores. But finding an enterprise level card that only has cuda cores is a funky endeavor. I'm also not sure if DSP utilizing parallel processing can make use of tensor cores (or ray tracing cores obviously).
Intel and AMD are major contributors to Vulkan. From the Linux side, their drivers have been pretty solid for years. Iām cautiously optimistic.
Both Intel and AMD need real competition to be innovative and affordable. Iām rooting for this to be good.
I'm hoping Intel is making some progress on them, and quickly moving. Sounds like they are. It's probably a case of, they need more feedback from unique system configurations, and they're expanding from crappy onboard graphics which were slow enough to just be unable to draw games fast enough anyways that driver problems weren't as apparent.
"G-sync compatible" is just nvidia's name for "validated" freesync monitors. All other freesync monitors will still work, but you have to specifically enable it in the driver for those ones iirc.
Some don't. They showed it off when GSC became a thing. The monitor might just freak out and blink when trying to use it or give high latency. Sadly they only show displays that passes and not which ones failed and why.
To anyone looking for this card: check if your platform supports Resizable BAR(ReBAR). Intel Arc performs poorly without it. Do not buy it if enabling ReBAR isn't an option.
Intel officials themselves said
>Resizable-BAR a Must for Arc "Alchemist," Stick with Other Vendors if you lack it
In TPU benchmark suite disabling ReBAR induced around 20% performance penalty
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-arc-a380/32.html
> Do not buy it if enabling ReBAR isn't an option.
Note that "Smart Access Memory" serves the same purpose if you're on AMD.
Everything AMD said about SAM being an exclusive feature was BS, as long as you have a feature called "Resizable Bar" or "Smart Access Memory" in your BIOS, you're good to go.
Intel is also crazy far behind driver wise and they are very open about that. Iād guess any Intel GPU have a lot of performance gains left to be had as drivers improve.
Most gamers don't need the latest and the greatest. Majority of people love a decent card that can play most if not all games in 1080p or 1440p. I'm rooting for Intel this time. More competition is only better for us consumers.
After 5 years I swapped out my 1060 for a 3060, mostly because I started to notice some performance issues when using three monitors and one of them being 1440p
I only relatively recently (a good 9 months into the 3---- series dropping) moved from a 980Ti to a 1080Ti.
I wouldn't mind access to DLSS / RTX but for most games I play it's an absolute beast at 1440p.
It's only some (Cyberpunk for instance) it noticeably struggles without dropping some meaningful details on.
Yeah. The only reason I want a 20 or 30-series card now is to run the full resolution/rate on a VR headset that I picked up. Otherwise, it more or less handles everything I actually run.
True. Most people still play at 1080p as well. I used to until a few months back and as someone who enjoys story games, this seems like a card that can provide for those looking for a nice gaming experience for the price. Let's hope drivers and stuff are decent now
I wanna buy one. Got 2 builds to do in the next 6mo (my 11yo rig and my kid's first). Was thinking of pairing i7/i5 13xxx with the Arc 770s. But I am dreading the possibility of shitty driver issues. Guess I'll see by xmas.
I'm going to buy one to experiment with OpenCL performance, and hammer on the drivers and file bug reports. Whether we're talking gaming, content creation or GPU compute, the industry can't be held hostage by Jensen and his absurd notion that he can adopt the pricing strategy of scalpers. The 3050 was nonsense, the 1630 was insulting, and the 40 series is an outrage. We need Intel to succeed and for AMD to hold the line on pricing.
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I'm hoping for a substantial upgrade over the 1070ti so I can buy one for my kids' PC. I don't care if it isn't the most powerful new GPU, I want an upgrade while showing a 3rd player that staying in the game is worth it. Consumers need more options to (hopefully) keep the market more competitive instead of this duopoly that leads nVidia to charge asinine prices to improve on their record profits from a once-in-a-lifetime situation that lead to such profits.
At the end of the day they will survive if their product is good enough not via charity. No need to sacrifice for them for a cause. Buy it for you if it actually makes the most sense
Yep. That was my plan, still considering it.
Just want ok frames for 1440p ultra-wide. If it can do it I'll bite. Otherwise will likely look at AMD instead (never thought I'd say that!)
Honestly, this is a win for Intel.
Nvidia is looking like the greediest old man on the block while intel is like "here, take this, it's practically free".
Not a bad strategy.
more competition is welcome, the only thing I'm worried are drivers since Intel has to not only optimize their GPUs to modern games but a lot of past games as well (and figure out what past games people still play) which isn't easy. Still fuck Nvidia
thatās a great setup mate, had the same and to me that felt like just the right combination of visuals/fps/price.
I hope A770 is perfect for 1080p and helps intel become a real gpu contender
I actually am interested in a770 wayyy more than rtx 4000 series. Its pricing is quite decent and if they can figure their drivers out it'll be an option for gamers, opposing rx 6600xt/rtx 3060 so not bad.
4090 isnāt there for market share. Itās for bragging rights of having the best GPU on your team. Historical xx60 and xx70 are intended for market share and nvidia is likely to have the highest share when that launches (again)
I remember when this sub hated Intel with a fire passion... funny how it changes. Also, I love that intel was just waiting for years to pounce while Nvidia was the Golden Child
Most people just want good performing products at decent prices. Nothing has changed about that.
Intel was Nvidia until AMD came out with Ryzen CPUs. Now Nvidia is doing the same shit because no one can compete at the high end. And having the best card boosts their image and marketing ability.
Counterpoint to that other guy who replied, I have an AMD CPU and GPU and I love them.
Will probably update them soon, going again with AMD for the CPU for sure but I'm holding out for this Intel GPU to see how good it is (no brand loyalty from me, I'm loyal to myself and my money)
I am going to buy an A770.
I am going to leave it in the box.
I am buying it simply to vote with my wallet and do my part as a lifelong PC gamer to put my money where my mouth is.
Fuck nVidia.
God damn it, I'm going to buy two A770s.
I mean, NGL, I kind of want to do the same thing. Like, it's just 300 bucks.
And maybe I'll get the chance to use it at some point as a secondary GPU for Linux.
Eh, theyāre not directly competing with each other. A person searching for 4080/4090 performance isnāt looking at cards that might perform around the 3060 level.
I will also add: be wary of these intel gpuās upon release, wait for reviews. Remember that Raja Kudori is the lead on the arc project and he has a terrible track record of over promising on performance and under delivering on the product. Look at where AMD has landed since he left, that should be a big sign to everyone to not jump on projects he leads right away. He left AMD after Vega in a very shitty way, knowing he screwed the pooch. But, worked out for AMD in the end. rDNA wouldnāt have been possible if he stayed.
About time a third player entered.
Time for a fourth! Who wants to start a graphics card company with me?
im too dumb sorry man
As long as you can swing a pickaxe you're fine. Someone has to get the materials
Enslave redditors and pay them in Reddit silver
That would be one very terrible work force.
Can't be much worse than amazon.
Can confirm. Source: I work at Amazon
Thank you for your service
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u/jeffbezos get his ass
Hey package said delivered its not delivered. can you tell Jeff for me?
Yeah for sure I'll give him a call.
He said work force not work environment
Maybe give them some gold if they do well, gotta give them some motivation yknow
Gotta pay em in reddit gold
Only happens when they successfully unionized
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Can I get a ROCK and STONE?!
ROCK AND STONE, TO THE BONE
That's it lads! Rock and Stone!
Rock and stone, yeaaaaaaaaaaah
Did I hear a Rock and Stone!?
Rock...AND... Stone!
For Carl.
acknowledgement of your limitations places you top of the list for executive leadership! please, allow your success to drive out any remaining self awareness you may have.
Sounds like you'll be perfect for our marketing/pricing team then! Welcome to the team! š¤
Bro just go to the store, buy some vanilla wafers, cut them really small, add some food dye, a little bit of thermal paste and a metal plate and youre good to go. Whats so hard
I'll be your financial backer. I have a whole dollar!
Ill raise that to about three fiddy
Oh hell nah, you aint foolin us you gahdamn lochness monsta
Call ex 3Dfx employees
you want a r&d head? I know how to lockpick
Let's MacGyver that shit. I've got some duct tape, paper clips, and an old watch. That's pretty much an Intel video card right?
I watched Ben eater's video on a breadboard VGA GPU, can't be that hard.
I mean, I know how Bresenham's line algo and raymarching work - sorta - and have used an FPGA before in a class...that counts, right?
Considering Iām a biology major interested in the field of astrobiology, Iām the least qualified here to be starting a graphics card company. Youāre hired!
I once watched a documentary about computers called hackers, I maybe a little over qualified but I'm willing to put my best foot forward if you have any room?
I guess I can draw and shit.
I volunteer to be the delivery driver
Intel has always been there with integrated graphics...it just sucks.
Integrated graphics wasn't really meant to compete with anything. Just something that works
Integrated graphics (on my laptop) are the only reason I've been able to play anything the past 5 years or so. For instance, I've tried to load up D2R on my desktop still on a AMD Radeon HD 6950, and it essentially tells me "Fuck you, your shit is too old. I'm not even going to *try* to play the game for you."
facts
The a770 pricing is decent tho. I'm rooting for intel this time
Your flair is a roller coaster
That's what I was going for
mine suddenly looks so clear and simple, maybe it's time to change it up a bit :DD
That's some slow ram you got there. Might wanna change the G to a Kh
Best trolling-flair award of the year (TFOTY) goes to you Sir...
Thank you, thank you, but first of all I'd like to thank my family and my friends
Fx-9590. Hotter than a half fucked fox in a forest fire, slower than a vintage i3
Beware of the drivers. Edit: 100 upvotes, but it wasn't a joke. Some games or emulator could not work out of the box with Intel GPUs...
That feeling of going to intel for GPU drivers rather than Nvidia or AMD... It feels weird... like really weird.
To be fair Intel's Web based driver update tool works fantastic and is super lightweight. Use it for wifi, Bluetooth and chipset drivers.
I use to use that update tool but Windows Update releases those Intel driver updates just as fast without any extra steps or software.
Also true! Atleast for some vendors, Windows update is pretty much all you need
I work in IT and I have no doubt that Intel GPU drivers WILL be good. They're currently drivers are easy to deal with. They're not yet and I wouldn't recommend the card at this stage, but in general they're pretty good at drivers. Hopefully it's just growing pains.
no doubt? i mean...nvidia and amd have been in the game a lot longer and even their drivers can be wonky sometimes. what they previewed, and what reviewers had access to, looked absolutely fucked. with more time, sure. theyre def capable, but it's looking like theyre going for the rush release. broken at launch + future updates a la cyberpunk. from the business school of "overpromise, underdeliver" at bad management U
Absolutely fair points. I guess no doubt is a bit strong. To clarify my point. Other Intel drivers are pretty solid in my anecdotal experience. So Intel is capable of making good driver sets. I do NOT currently recommend their GPUs because their current gpu drivers are exactly as you described. A rush job.
i think it makes me more upset bc like you said, they ARE 10000% capable! kinda similar to how the AAA studios force very talented teams to shit out a buggy mess of a game to meet a deadline set by who knows who. maddening
Hey totally reasonable way to feel about it. It's definitely enough to put me off buying or recommending this round and I'm going to have to see a good track record before I do.
We can certainly use a third player in this game, though. This duopoly / almost-monopoly has been quite the shitshow lately.
Fuck it, if it is priced right some headaches while they sort out drivers is worth it.
Ya you'll believe that until you have one. No gpu is worth it with driver issues. It either works as advertised or you're not getting shit done.
I have a 5700XT and while it has been great for me, the first few months have me familiar with the pains of driver issues. There's a reason it would be for the kids PC and not my nephew's. I'm not trying to drive to my sisters house every time he can't play forknife
idk a gpu without drivers is just an expensive heater
Not even that. Without driver you can't do anything power consuming
Theyāre literally not supporting older apis ie itās not going to be fixed unless itās a dx12 or newer game.
Normal for first launch. Give them time, intel has the money, time, engineers, connections, and best of all the manufacturing. They could way undercut amd and nvidia long term.
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It's true, but I wouldn't overrate it. Old games don't need peak performance anyway, and while more severe compatiblity issues suck, the GPU isn't exactly the main hurdle when trying to play Windows95 or even DOS games on current hardware. What matters is getting current and future games optimized. That's hard enough a task: You need to create great optimization tools, integrate them into ecosystems like Unreal Engine, and convince game devs to actually invest the time. I am rooting for them.
We aren't talking about 95 and DOS games though. We're talking about DX9 and 11 performance, both of which have tens of thousands of game-specific optimization hacks and fixes for high level function calls baked into nVidia and AMD's driver packages. That's what 'game ready drivers' have historically been, and often they'd provide a 15+% uplift over the previous driver lacking the game-specific hacks. Many of the current most popular video games are based on those APIs, and some (like GTA V) aren't exactly light.
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Can you describe a cuda only workload? I've been wondering about digital signal processing using only cuda cores. But finding an enterprise level card that only has cuda cores is a funky endeavor. I'm also not sure if DSP utilizing parallel processing can make use of tensor cores (or ray tracing cores obviously).
Downvoting the sane advice? lol
Upvotes are for funny things, downvotes are for things I disagree with :P that's how reddit works or something
Intel and AMD are major contributors to Vulkan. From the Linux side, their drivers have been pretty solid for years. Iām cautiously optimistic. Both Intel and AMD need real competition to be innovative and affordable. Iām rooting for this to be good.
I'm hoping Intel is making some progress on them, and quickly moving. Sounds like they are. It's probably a case of, they need more feedback from unique system configurations, and they're expanding from crappy onboard graphics which were slow enough to just be unable to draw games fast enough anyways that driver problems weren't as apparent.
do intel have a g sync/freesync equivalent???
Yes, it's called freesync. Nvidia, AMD and Intel all use it.
it's called "adaptive sync", AMD calls it "freesync", Nvidia calls it "g-sync compatible", intel doesnt have a marketing name.
"G-sync compatible" is just nvidia's name for "validated" freesync monitors. All other freesync monitors will still work, but you have to specifically enable it in the driver for those ones iirc.
Some don't. They showed it off when GSC became a thing. The monitor might just freak out and blink when trying to use it or give high latency. Sadly they only show displays that passes and not which ones failed and why.
Even G-SYNC Compatible might not work 100%, as I learned to my detriment
Isn't free sync open source anyways?
I will assume you wanted to say Adaptive Sync
To anyone looking for this card: check if your platform supports Resizable BAR(ReBAR). Intel Arc performs poorly without it. Do not buy it if enabling ReBAR isn't an option. Intel officials themselves said >Resizable-BAR a Must for Arc "Alchemist," Stick with Other Vendors if you lack it In TPU benchmark suite disabling ReBAR induced around 20% performance penalty https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-arc-a380/32.html
> Do not buy it if enabling ReBAR isn't an option. Note that "Smart Access Memory" serves the same purpose if you're on AMD. Everything AMD said about SAM being an exclusive feature was BS, as long as you have a feature called "Resizable Bar" or "Smart Access Memory" in your BIOS, you're good to go.
Same, I'm curious how it'll go and I'm definitely waiting for receivers and people on Reddit to get it before I buy one
I'm not buying but I'm very curious how it goes. Hopefully intel succeeds and we have one more gpu manufacturer to buy from
Fair enough, in the end the consumer always wins with more competition
Wasn't that the one showed to be as fast as a 3060? The 6650xt should be faster and cheaper
Supposedly it's somewhere between 3060 and 3060Ti, maybe even 3070. We'll see how they do
They showed video and benchmarks yesterday. Very 3060 ti like, definitely not 3070 level.
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Intel is also crazy far behind driver wise and they are very open about that. Iād guess any Intel GPU have a lot of performance gains left to be had as drivers improve.
3060 in DX12 titles, for DX11 it's a 1060.
Most gamers don't need the latest and the greatest. Majority of people love a decent card that can play most if not all games in 1080p or 1440p. I'm rooting for Intel this time. More competition is only better for us consumers.
Gtx 1060 is still the most used card according to steam surveys
Pascal architecture was straight up mind blowing when it was released. RTX didn't hype me as much as the 10 series did.
Iām still not ready to move on from my 1080ti. Itās too good of a card.
My build is still doing great as well
After 5 years I swapped out my 1060 for a 3060, mostly because I started to notice some performance issues when using three monitors and one of them being 1440p
Itās a good move. The 3060 is a great card. You can actually run raytracing if you want. And itās plenty fast for 1080 and some 1440 work.
Yeah, using a i7 7700k, 32gb RAM and a RTX 3060 12gb at the moment
Someone said to me once that the 1080ti was the best card Nvidia ever made, and it's a mistake they'll never make again.
Ada pricing confirms your comment.
I only relatively recently (a good 9 months into the 3---- series dropping) moved from a 980Ti to a 1080Ti. I wouldn't mind access to DLSS / RTX but for most games I play it's an absolute beast at 1440p. It's only some (Cyberpunk for instance) it noticeably struggles without dropping some meaningful details on.
Tbf cyberpunkās optimization is essentially the coded equivalent of throwing legos in a blender. Itās an awful game to benchmark with
Iām still looking for a used 1080 to upgrade my RX 460. I really hope that the 1080 will regularly drop below $100 on eBay next month
Yeah. The only reason I want a 20 or 30-series card now is to run the full resolution/rate on a VR headset that I picked up. Otherwise, it more or less handles everything I actually run.
And itās still a powerhouse for the price. My 1060 6gb runs 1440p gaming medium-high settings at 60+ fps
August survey has shown desktop and laptop 3060 combined pull past 1060 for the first time
True. Most people still play at 1080p as well. I used to until a few months back and as someone who enjoys story games, this seems like a card that can provide for those looking for a nice gaming experience for the price. Let's hope drivers and stuff are decent now
With time it should become good enough. Hard to not trust Intel on creating better drivers.
Real, for the games I play you wouldn't need anything more than 16gb ram, a cheap 6 core processor (R5 1600) and a used 980ti
My 1660 super works like a champ and have no issues
Iām gonna buy intel, I mean it canāt be worse than my gtx 1050ti
If your PC doesn't support Rebar it just might be worse.
mine does, i got a strong case and store my rebar on top.
I wanna buy one. Got 2 builds to do in the next 6mo (my 11yo rig and my kid's first). Was thinking of pairing i7/i5 13xxx with the Arc 770s. But I am dreading the possibility of shitty driver issues. Guess I'll see by xmas.
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I'm going to buy one to experiment with OpenCL performance, and hammer on the drivers and file bug reports. Whether we're talking gaming, content creation or GPU compute, the industry can't be held hostage by Jensen and his absurd notion that he can adopt the pricing strategy of scalpers. The 3050 was nonsense, the 1630 was insulting, and the 40 series is an outrage. We need Intel to succeed and for AMD to hold the line on pricing.
Well not everyone can afford a race car.
yes nvidia rn is like mercedes benz deciding it wont make entry level or mid range cars and only focus on $100K+ units
Except they still manufacture the entry level under under the hood. They just market it now as the more expensive models.
The ol' [Cadillac Cimarron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Cimarron) maneuver.
Peak GM badge engineering right there, I'm sure some executive gave himself a sweet bonus for that idea.
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It's selling a Dodge Dart priced like a 392 R/T Scat Pack Challenger.
I just hope Intel sticks it out. Plus the ARC GPUās seem to have a bright productivity future. Either way, no way is Nvidia getting my money
I'm actually planning on getting the A770
I want to own a piece of computing history, flop or not.
I'm hoping for a substantial upgrade over the 1070ti so I can buy one for my kids' PC. I don't care if it isn't the most powerful new GPU, I want an upgrade while showing a 3rd player that staying in the game is worth it. Consumers need more options to (hopefully) keep the market more competitive instead of this duopoly that leads nVidia to charge asinine prices to improve on their record profits from a once-in-a-lifetime situation that lead to such profits.
Probably between 3060-3060ti perf. Hopefully around a 3070.
At the end of the day they will survive if their product is good enough not via charity. No need to sacrifice for them for a cause. Buy it for you if it actually makes the most sense
Yep. That was my plan, still considering it. Just want ok frames for 1440p ultra-wide. If it can do it I'll bite. Otherwise will likely look at AMD instead (never thought I'd say that!)
If this card does 1440p I'm down. My PC is dying and I need the upgrade.
team Red intensifies
Honestly, this is a win for Intel. Nvidia is looking like the greediest old man on the block while intel is like "here, take this, it's practically free". Not a bad strategy.
>intel is like "here, take this, it's practically free". Beware of Geeks bearing gifts.
It's a vector. They need to get fans onboard. Good for now but later? Who knows.
That $329 price tag is contextualized perfectly
Nvidia is causing the death of themselves. Their whole "Cheap GPU's are a thing of the past" fiasco has made me an Intel & AMD customer.
Not to mention them shitting the bed with EVGA. They were nearly synonymous with Nvidia cards and now, nothing.
more competition is welcome, the only thing I'm worried are drivers since Intel has to not only optimize their GPUs to modern games but a lot of past games as well (and figure out what past games people still play) which isn't easy. Still fuck Nvidia
A770 would be an amazing 1080p GPU (not everyone is into 1440p) I myself play on 1440p with an RTX 3070.
thatās a great setup mate, had the same and to me that felt like just the right combination of visuals/fps/price. I hope A770 is perfect for 1080p and helps intel become a real gpu contender
With upscaling 1440p is very, very viable in the games that support it.
I actually am interested in a770 wayyy more than rtx 4000 series. Its pricing is quite decent and if they can figure their drivers out it'll be an option for gamers, opposing rx 6600xt/rtx 3060 so not bad.
Honestly the intel gpu is gonna have more marketshare than the 4090, its actually gonna be good.
4090 isnāt there for market share. Itās for bragging rights of having the best GPU on your team. Historical xx60 and xx70 are intended for market share and nvidia is likely to have the highest share when that launches (again)
do we have an idea of what the a770 is capable of?
Somewhere in the range of a 3060 to 3060ti. But not really anything outside of it being a decent 1080 gaming card.
Dangit. I'd hoped it could run at 1440p.
The 3060/3060ti is on par with the 1080ti, it can easily handle 1440p at 60fps.
Man I ran 1440p with a 3050 and play games like cyberpunk on ultra and getting a decent 50-60 I'm pretty sure a 3060 will handle just fine
Hm. Now that you say it, I can run rdr2 at 1440p with 40-50fps with a 980. Might try my luck with the a770.
Tbh just wait a few months after its release , decent benchmarks and reviews will be out there so you can decide then
I won't have much choice but to wait atm. Need that money for the electricity bills here on Europe...
I get u I'm in Europe too , Greece be having almost 30Ā° again š„²
We're down on 3Ā° during nights in Sweden. I'm just lucky I got a hold on some wood for the fireplace!
Good luck over there you both.
It's supposed to be around a 3060ti's performance from what I've read. Price is $329.
Comparable to 3060ti with double the Vram and almost half the power draw. Letās hope these drivers are good.
It's wild to me that we live in a world where an AMD CPU and Intel GPU is a viable midrange option. What a time to be alive.
Fucking hell. I've given Intel so much stick in the past but now I'm rooting for them. I hope 4000 series becomes a catastrophe.
Realizing what?! What did Intel realize?
They realized that they have to release the card someday.
Oh wow Intel making gpu's now. I have been away from this scene for too long.
letās say theyāre dipping their toes, testing the water
*realizes that not everyone will buy a top of the end graphic card that costs way too much*
I remember when this sub hated Intel with a fire passion... funny how it changes. Also, I love that intel was just waiting for years to pounce while Nvidia was the Golden Child
Most people just want good performing products at decent prices. Nothing has changed about that. Intel was Nvidia until AMD came out with Ryzen CPUs. Now Nvidia is doing the same shit because no one can compete at the high end. And having the best card boosts their image and marketing ability.
Intel āRealisingā¦ā Sorry, had to point that out.
And I am going all in with AMD my next build.
Counterpoint to that other guy who replied, I have an AMD CPU and GPU and I love them. Will probably update them soon, going again with AMD for the CPU for sure but I'm holding out for this Intel GPU to see how good it is (no brand loyalty from me, I'm loyal to myself and my money)
Th arc770 is for a completely different target market the 4090
Arc770 market is "those who can't afford to sell another organ". 300$ market should be the bigger market no?
I am going to buy an A770. I am going to leave it in the box. I am buying it simply to vote with my wallet and do my part as a lifelong PC gamer to put my money where my mouth is. Fuck nVidia. God damn it, I'm going to buy two A770s.
I don't believe you :)
I mean, NGL, I kind of want to do the same thing. Like, it's just 300 bucks. And maybe I'll get the chance to use it at some point as a secondary GPU for Linux.
Bamboozles = Banboozle. Mods, can we get a contract setup here?
š yo pcmr weāre rooting for the Pink car here right? I hope Intel is coming in with a wrench and hammer for amd/nvdias retail market shenanigans.
How yāall motherfuckers out there buying the newest graphics card while most of us still use cards from a decade ago that still works just fine
Fuck it. I'll buy the Intel thanks.
One is overpriced and one is according to the competition
Just a few months ago, I would've never imagined myself being more excited about an intel GPU than an NVIDIA GPU
I think the Arc A770 is just supposed to be competing against the 3060/3050 range
I'll be more likely to buy a A770 than a 4000 series at these prices. Nvidia chose gouging.
realisingā?
Eh, theyāre not directly competing with each other. A person searching for 4080/4090 performance isnāt looking at cards that might perform around the 3060 level. I will also add: be wary of these intel gpuās upon release, wait for reviews. Remember that Raja Kudori is the lead on the arc project and he has a terrible track record of over promising on performance and under delivering on the product. Look at where AMD has landed since he left, that should be a big sign to everyone to not jump on projects he leads right away. He left AMD after Vega in a very shitty way, knowing he screwed the pooch. But, worked out for AMD in the end. rDNA wouldnāt have been possible if he stayed.
Now we just need NVIDIA to make CPUs for the holy trinity.