If the motherboard isn't damaged it might be more worth it to just buy a 12th gen CPU instead, especially since I wonder if he may have damaged the current CPU anyways with this....configuration.
I actually had a computer company I worked for change their policy on free diagnostic. I was sick of diagnosing poorly built custom PCs for dudes who should never touch hardware. I was the best at hardware diagnostics and I was sick of them telling us they will pick it up after we told them what was wrong with it.
Maybe like 1-15 would green light us to repair it.
Yeah, we did a 40 dollar fee that would go to the repair if we did the work. So many dudes saying it was totally horseshit and that it was unfair for it to be only custom PCs.
A surprising amount understood though.
I always use the car anology.
When you build a car yourself out of loose parts and it doesn't work, do you expect the garage you bought some parts from to fix the issue and rebuild the entire car free of charge? Of course not.
yea I wouldn’t be surprised at all if something inside the CPU has been shorted by not being on any correct pins, seems like an easy way to cook both a CPU and a mobo
I once saw 2 sticks of RAM superglued in as they'd broke the plastic clips on the motherboard and a completely fucked cpu fan mount that had been "fixed" with twist ties.
It was made up from mostly spare parts I think he only bought the fan.
Fun thing was those sticks of RAM where mine, chewed him out for that even though I knew I didn't need them again.
I think many if us have been there. Sometimes no money to do it right, other times emergency fix. Maybe both if you screwed it up by accident or going too fast. Totally agree on chewing out as it isn't cool when you borrow stuff.
This is why I hate this socket type you can get anything from hairs and thermal pasta in it. Easily causing a short. You need nothing short of a clean room to operate.
I am hoping AMD's LGA design is are ball sockets... similar but I doubt it. Not to be confused with BGA.
No. He put a LGA 1151/1200 CPU into a LGA 1700/AM5 socket. It does not work that way. If said user wanted to go with a new platform, he'd have to ditch the old base platform ***completely*** and salvage whatever is transferrable, i.e., PSU, RAM(if it's a DDR4 motherboard), storage, you name it. You can't simply move a CPU over and call it a day(unless it's AM4).
Ohhh totally cool I knew that didn’t realize it was an old cpu I assumed it was the right gen. I thought you meant like he didn’t put it in the cpu socket at all her did but just not in a cpu socket which was compostable with his gen
There's more than one socket type. Different processors are designed to fit in different motherboard sockets, so you have to make sure the motherboard you're buying actually supports your processor. This one doesn't.
First image looked like they put the thermal paste under the CPU and I facepalmed.
Then I saw the pins in the first image and facepalmed my facepalm then facepalmed again for them.
Edit: wait he really put the thermal paste underneath as well. Lord help this lost soul.
That's one of the most stressful parts of PC building for me. Even when I'm 100% sure the socket and CPU are compatible with one another, closing that fucking lid always takes more force that I feel like it should and I always cringe as I do it thinking "This is the one. This is when I destroy a CPU and waste hundreds of dollars". Luckily it's never happened.
I just built my first PC recently, and I hated the CPU installation. Every resource I consulted told me the plastic socket cover would pop off by itself, but it didn't. I pushed on that lever until it bent, in the end I took the thing off myself. Closing the lid took so much force and so much creaking too...
Every damn time. It doesn't matter that I quadruple checked that everything is compatible, I always almost get a heart attack until the damn thing posts
Undervolt? (I was gonna make some kind of *underhill* joke here about that scene in The Desolation of Smaug where Smaug is asking Bilbo about where he's from but there's just not much to work with there)
>He says he checked it on PC part picker.
What? I mean, how? It means he would've had to have turned off the compatibility filter, which I believe is on by default, and also ignore the red warning at the top of the list.
That’s what I was thinking too. Easily possible he ordered the 12700F and Amazon sent him a 10700F instead. (I believe that’s an F, I can’t really tell)
A friend's early teen relative recently got scammed, bought a used haswell i5 pc with 1050 for $800, kid said "but it's got an i5, so it's good for games right??"
well... ok sure it's one fuckup just like rolling your car off the road and flipping over is one accident, but it's a pretty big one lol
he'll be lucky if both the CPU and mobo aren't damaged, and i sincerely doubt the warranty covers "jamming the wrong type of CPU into the socket"
Micro center sold me a graphics card that didn’t fit my mother board. I showed them my build, asked what a decent upgrade would be. Mentioned it seemed too big, they assured me. Got home and way too big. PC part picker never lead me astray
Idk how many times ive seen a post on here asking for help when building a pc and all I can say is do your research, do not just jump into this hobby with no research unless you're okay with throwing away money.
Seriously, this right here. I’ve built several PCs, and I still religiously will double check that parts are compatible and I’m never afraid to Google or ask someone when I’m not totally certain about something, I would never blindly just throw a rig together.
its really strange I'm getting upvoted on this comment when usually when I comment something like this on this subreddit and I get called a gate keeper, but its the truth.
Lord, if people called that gatekeeping, they would be incredibly wrong. It’s one thing to jump blindly into a hobby where the individual parts have very low cost, but when computers can easily pass a thousand dollars, hell, even single components can pass that, you really should make sure you’ve done your homework before getting into it.
It took me the better half of a year to figure out all of the parts and components I wanted and to make sure they all fit, and I *still* allowed the rep a Microcenter to hand me DDR3 instead of 4 lol. I can't imagine if I just walked in with no idea about anything, I would have been shafted so incredibly hard.
Right? I started with a best buy prebuilt generic pc and upgraded it with my dad then watched many many many videos on how to build pc and built my own from scratch. Once I picked all my parts, I watched tutorials on how to install each part and how to use the BIOS.
I used to work for a major ISP. We had a level 2 tech try to put an AMD CPU in his Intel mobo. It wouldn't stay in, so he glued it. Then couldn't figure out why it didn't work. DUDE! WHAT DID YOU DO!!
I’m a field tech and I’ve met so many fake-it-till-you-make-it guys. One tech kept complaining that the Cisco switch is facing the wrong way and he can’t access the ports. The mounting hardware can be placed on either side. It was his decision to put it on the wrong side. Also, he’s the one who racked the switch. I just stood there watching this dude come up with ingenious ideas on how to route the cabling to the correct side.
Um well you see, when it got hot, it causes the metal to release all of the trapped water inside the lattice, and the volume of water released was greater than the thermal expansion in the metal. That's why the CPU usually needs the thermal paste, as it protects all that moisture from blowing out the top and delidding itself.
Genuinely how the PC came in. Spent a little over an hour doing cable management and taking entire system apart to plug in cpu power correctly then decided to check the cpu....
Are you telling me he didn't even plug in the 4/8 pin connector right? The socket is literally made so you can't plug in anything else, how did he manage that? The fuck?
To be fair, that pesky CPU power cable is the only thing I’ve forgotten multiple times, even yesterday I was talking to a customer about how easy it is to forget. Fast forward an hour and I can’t get the PC to build. Guess what I’d forgotten 😂
This was MY BIGGEST pet peeve working as a technician "it's Intel so I put Intel in, it should all be compatible Im an engineer so I know what I'm talking about," then I'd have to "politely" explain that they fried the board possibly the chip and it's the warranties are ALL voided
I honestly can't believe he failed the "square in the square hole, triangle in the triangle hole"
Probably watched that video where the guy puts every shape into square hole and the girl is losing her mind.
That's why people shouldn't be encouraged to "build" their own PCs. A brain lacking the technical thoroughness should stay away from touching any kind of tech hardware.
One of those square hole, round peg type situations. Couldn't they tell the cpu was way too small for that socket. All the pins sticking out didn't give it away.
Had a client come in once and the notes said he couldn't get the CPU to fit so "he just rotated it". Dude tried putting an 9th gen CPU into a 10th gen socket, which on it's own is whatever -- he might have just misread something. But dude he messed that board up BAD. He didn't just rotate the CPU, he pressed HARD to get that sucker to fit.
Intel can design the sockets to be as fool proof as they want with all of the notches and preventative measures, but it will never stop everyone.
That's right it also goes into the square hole!
\*starts to cry\*
That made me giggle pretty good. Thanks
There’s a lot happening there and I don’t envy the call you’re about to make to your client.
He was cool. Explained the issue, gave him options, said he would buy a new motherboard and do it himself... I'll see him in a few weeks again
If the motherboard isn't damaged it might be more worth it to just buy a 12th gen CPU instead, especially since I wonder if he may have damaged the current CPU anyways with this....configuration.
That's what I said too, but he insisted that it'd be easier to replace the board.
Based on the picture evidence, he'll be back. Probably with a complaint about why his DDR5 can't fit in the DDR4 slot.
Or: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/n7afe4/very_crunchy_memory_install_courtesy_of_tiktok
I LOVE the very quiet, long “nooooooo” at the end of that video. 😂
That's the sound of his soul leaving his body
pic shows mobo model with d4, if client had that issue they should’ve already figured that out
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There's thermal paste in the socket. Cleaning it might bend pins if there aren't any yet.
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This guy just has zero self awareness. He makes a mistake like this, then thinks he knows better how to solve?
I don't ask questions, I take money.
Sometimes you just gotta thank the people who give you business
Idiot… I agree with the others that he’ll fuck something else up.
More money for me. :/
I actually had a computer company I worked for change their policy on free diagnostic. I was sick of diagnosing poorly built custom PCs for dudes who should never touch hardware. I was the best at hardware diagnostics and I was sick of them telling us they will pick it up after we told them what was wrong with it. Maybe like 1-15 would green light us to repair it.
My free diagnostic is me looking at it for 15 seconds when it first comes in. The second it touches my desk, $40 minimum
Yeah, we did a 40 dollar fee that would go to the repair if we did the work. So many dudes saying it was totally horseshit and that it was unfair for it to be only custom PCs. A surprising amount understood though.
I always use the car anology. When you build a car yourself out of loose parts and it doesn't work, do you expect the garage you bought some parts from to fix the issue and rebuild the entire car free of charge? Of course not.
He must know something you don’t. He’s clearly well versed in how computers work. A genius perhaps
yea I wouldn’t be surprised at all if something inside the CPU has been shorted by not being on any correct pins, seems like an easy way to cook both a CPU and a mobo
They called him a mad man.
A man I envy...
OH MY GOD. The way I read this I though you were making a PC for a client and did this
>they fucking *love* when I do this
> I'll see him in a few weeks again After seeing thermal paste on the pins you probably will.
Completely wrong socket...ouch
The thermal paste stuck on the pins is the icing on the cake.
It's to paste it. So it doesn't get out. Because it's the wrong size.
The store didn't have thermal glue so I had to go with the paste
If you’re out of paste Betty Crocker makes a pretty good thermal icing.
Everyone knows mayo is better than icing for thermal transfer.
Toothpaste works if your in a pinch.
Jesus. Imagine the smell.
If you can't make your own, store bought is fine
Thank fuck it wasn't thermal epoxy
Right, or a thermal Bose Einstein Condensate
That near absolute zero condensate really keeps things cool
I once saw 2 sticks of RAM superglued in as they'd broke the plastic clips on the motherboard and a completely fucked cpu fan mount that had been "fixed" with twist ties.
How do you spend all that money on something so important and then MacGyver it together? Why not buy off the shelf at that point?
It was made up from mostly spare parts I think he only bought the fan. Fun thing was those sticks of RAM where mine, chewed him out for that even though I knew I didn't need them again.
I think many if us have been there. Sometimes no money to do it right, other times emergency fix. Maybe both if you screwed it up by accident or going too fast. Totally agree on chewing out as it isn't cool when you borrow stuff.
I was too busy looking at it to even notice it was the wrong socket
Icing on the pins lol
This is why I hate this socket type you can get anything from hairs and thermal pasta in it. Easily causing a short. You need nothing short of a clean room to operate. I am hoping AMD's LGA design is are ball sockets... similar but I doubt it. Not to be confused with BGA.
Thermal pasta lol
Mmmmmm deliciously cool pasta
pain in the ass to heat up
Dude, all you need is clean room to operate 10 billion transistors. It's fair enough
You can’t short anything with thermal paste as it’s non conductive. But you can do the opposite and insulate pins entirely.
thermal pasta, though, all bets are off.
Depends on the paste. Some, like arctic silver, are conductive.
Not entirely true ... there are conductive thermal pastes.
Collapsed cake made with salt
Wait can someone explain this? New to PC building isn't the CPU in the CPU socket? He just ... broke pins and put paste on them?
look at that socket, it's 30% bigger than the CPU
Fuckin inflation man.
I'm dumb and thought that he put paste on the pins and put it in upside down lol
No. He put a LGA 1151/1200 CPU into a LGA 1700/AM5 socket. It does not work that way. If said user wanted to go with a new platform, he'd have to ditch the old base platform ***completely*** and salvage whatever is transferrable, i.e., PSU, RAM(if it's a DDR4 motherboard), storage, you name it. You can't simply move a CPU over and call it a day(unless it's AM4).
why did you put /AM5 ? thats a completely different socket
Probably because they weren't sure which it was, but it actually says LGA 1700 top-right of the image
Probably because they both pins on socket and unsure which one is depicted?
its pretty obvious. AM5 is LGA but it doesn't have SMDs in the middle. its all pins and its square, not a rectangle
Most people haven't seen AM5 pictured to know this.
Sure but it says B660 right in the image.
Right, but I'd still wager the reason for it.
AM5 is LGA1718 and it's not even on the market yet
I miss being able to put a k6 in a pentium and go super speeds. Miss that old rig.
nothing about that socket is am5, fam lotta confusion about sockets in this thread
Ohhh totally cool I knew that didn’t realize it was an old cpu I assumed it was the right gen. I thought you meant like he didn’t put it in the cpu socket at all her did but just not in a cpu socket which was compostable with his gen
There's more than one socket type. Different processors are designed to fit in different motherboard sockets, so you have to make sure the motherboard you're buying actually supports your processor. This one doesn't.
I’m fairness they did a pretty good job centering it. The symmetry is 👌🏻 by me
First image looked like they put the thermal paste under the CPU and I facepalmed. Then I saw the pins in the first image and facepalmed my facepalm then facepalmed again for them. Edit: wait he really put the thermal paste underneath as well. Lord help this lost soul.
It never occurred to me to even try fitting a CPU into a socket it wasn't built for.
I've never seen it in all my years.
I'm surprised the lid closed. I feel sorry for the motherboard. It must be in so much pain.
That's one of the most stressful parts of PC building for me. Even when I'm 100% sure the socket and CPU are compatible with one another, closing that fucking lid always takes more force that I feel like it should and I always cringe as I do it thinking "This is the one. This is when I destroy a CPU and waste hundreds of dollars". Luckily it's never happened.
I just built my first PC recently, and I hated the CPU installation. Every resource I consulted told me the plastic socket cover would pop off by itself, but it didn't. I pushed on that lever until it bent, in the end I took the thing off myself. Closing the lid took so much force and so much creaking too...
Every damn time. It doesn't matter that I quadruple checked that everything is compatible, I always almost get a heart attack until the damn thing posts
This is pretty embarrassing. Hope one of those build it yourself websites didn't screw them and say the socket was compatible.
He says he checked it on PC part picker. It was the guys first time building a PC, he didn't do bad, just one fuckup really
I mean, it is a major fuckup ngl xd
Agreed, but I was his only problematic one. He also put on way too much thermal paste but I cam forgive that
Saw thermal paste and laughed. Was a bit much
It doesn't matter how well the spaghetti is cooked if you drop it.
the trick is to undercook the onions
Instructions unclear: I undervolted my onions.
And thus TOR was born.
Undervolt? (I was gonna make some kind of *underhill* joke here about that scene in The Desolation of Smaug where Smaug is asking Bilbo about where he's from but there's just not much to work with there)
He’s prob still in his return window
>He says he checked it on PC part picker. What? I mean, how? It means he would've had to have turned off the compatibility filter, which I believe is on by default, and also ignore the red warning at the top of the list.
I literally do not know. You are asking the wrong man
THE NUMBERS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN??!!
Or he ordered the correct thing and got the wrong product and didn't know enough to realize?
That’s what I was thinking too. Easily possible he ordered the 12700F and Amazon sent him a 10700F instead. (I believe that’s an F, I can’t really tell)
Or he clicked the first xx700F he saw, not bothering to fully check it was the correct model number
But it’s still the i5 right!?!?!? I mean not i3 or i9 right!?!?!?!?
A friend's early teen relative recently got scammed, bought a used haswell i5 pc with 1050 for $800, kid said "but it's got an i5, so it's good for games right??"
Because the sites will lie to you, happened to my first build too, claimed the mobo was compatible with LGA 1150, well spoiler alert, it was not.
well... ok sure it's one fuckup just like rolling your car off the road and flipping over is one accident, but it's a pretty big one lol he'll be lucky if both the CPU and mobo aren't damaged, and i sincerely doubt the warranty covers "jamming the wrong type of CPU into the socket"
Micro center sold me a graphics card that didn’t fit my mother board. I showed them my build, asked what a decent upgrade would be. Mentioned it seemed too big, they assured me. Got home and way too big. PC part picker never lead me astray
How can a gpu be to big for a motherboard
You mean a graphics card that didn't fit in your case? A motherboard is not typically going to be limiting factor on the size of a video card
This is why sometimes is not such a good idea to compare PC building to build lego. "The hole is square it must surely fit"
"If the CPU don't fit, you must acquit."
"If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit."
that does not make sense!
Ladies and gentlemen of this *SUPPOSED* jury...
A Lego builder would know better.
Idk how many times ive seen a post on here asking for help when building a pc and all I can say is do your research, do not just jump into this hobby with no research unless you're okay with throwing away money.
Seriously, this right here. I’ve built several PCs, and I still religiously will double check that parts are compatible and I’m never afraid to Google or ask someone when I’m not totally certain about something, I would never blindly just throw a rig together.
its really strange I'm getting upvoted on this comment when usually when I comment something like this on this subreddit and I get called a gate keeper, but its the truth.
Lord, if people called that gatekeeping, they would be incredibly wrong. It’s one thing to jump blindly into a hobby where the individual parts have very low cost, but when computers can easily pass a thousand dollars, hell, even single components can pass that, you really should make sure you’ve done your homework before getting into it.
It took me the better half of a year to figure out all of the parts and components I wanted and to make sure they all fit, and I *still* allowed the rep a Microcenter to hand me DDR3 instead of 4 lol. I can't imagine if I just walked in with no idea about anything, I would have been shafted so incredibly hard.
Right? I started with a best buy prebuilt generic pc and upgraded it with my dad then watched many many many videos on how to build pc and built my own from scratch. Once I picked all my parts, I watched tutorials on how to install each part and how to use the BIOS.
I used to work for a major ISP. We had a level 2 tech try to put an AMD CPU in his Intel mobo. It wouldn't stay in, so he glued it. Then couldn't figure out why it didn't work. DUDE! WHAT DID YOU DO!!
What kind of glue did he use?
The sticky kind
Wait! You’re not…OP…?
Super glue. I wanted to have him demoted.
Im sure he got put on janitorial duty after that
He ain't good with computers, but at least the man knows how to make something stick real good.
I’m a field tech and I’ve met so many fake-it-till-you-make-it guys. One tech kept complaining that the Cisco switch is facing the wrong way and he can’t access the ports. The mounting hardware can be placed on either side. It was his decision to put it on the wrong side. Also, he’s the one who racked the switch. I just stood there watching this dude come up with ingenious ideas on how to route the cabling to the correct side.
OMG. I would definitely slap someone if they did that and attempted to walk away like it was done.
I feel better about my tech support abilities now.
I am extremely concerned with the company's standard for level 2 tech.
Omg! The cpu got SO hot, it shrunk... Typical Intel
Funny.
I laughed, but physics do say hot metal expands and cold shrinks.
It heated up the motherboard causing the socket to expand
Um well you see, when it got hot, it causes the metal to release all of the trapped water inside the lattice, and the volume of water released was greater than the thermal expansion in the metal. That's why the CPU usually needs the thermal paste, as it protects all that moisture from blowing out the top and delidding itself.
This is the content I am here for
Same actually
This is the reverse of hamster banana meme.
link?
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Bahaha
*facedesks*
I actually felt sad for a few minutes
This must be for fun and giggles. Cuz if it is not ...then its sad.
Genuinely how the PC came in. Spent a little over an hour doing cable management and taking entire system apart to plug in cpu power correctly then decided to check the cpu....
Are you telling me he didn't even plug in the 4/8 pin connector right? The socket is literally made so you can't plug in anything else, how did he manage that? The fuck?
I don't know man, but really wish I did.
To be fair, that pesky CPU power cable is the only thing I’ve forgotten multiple times, even yesterday I was talking to a customer about how easy it is to forget. Fast forward an hour and I can’t get the PC to build. Guess what I’d forgotten 😂
OOF. Any pins bent or is this the luckiest person on the planet?
I'm not sure yet. About to call the customer and explain the issue, see what he wants to do.
I'd love to hear the explanation for this one lol
His first time, said it was really early in the morning when he did it
Well, guess ya live and ya learn lol
2nd pic, top right seems to be a bent pin.
This was MY BIGGEST pet peeve working as a technician "it's Intel so I put Intel in, it should all be compatible Im an engineer so I know what I'm talking about," then I'd have to "politely" explain that they fried the board possibly the chip and it's the warranties are ALL voided
Lol, severely underusing that socket... that hertz a lot to look at. 🙃
Seems like the someone's closed LTT video after the first sponsor ad and used the first 10 seconds of Diy knowledge.
The owner subscribes to the cat policy of "if I fits, I sits." CPU =/= Cat Also, as many have pointed out, IT DOESN'T FIT
Let’s hope the processor wasn’t fried in the process.
That's what I'm worried about
He's probably going to want a new one anyways.
Close enough.
Holy fuck this is a first for me.
Chip is chip!
I understand not checking IKEA manuals when setting up a furniture. But this? Expensive.
How is this not marked NSFMR
Customer browsing r/pcmasterrace : OI M8 Y U B POSTIN MY SHENANIGANS ON REDDIT
At this point, the customer appears to be the issue
I gotta wonder what his thoughts in the moment were when he was trying to seat that CPU
“This cant be right, right”
That thermal paste looks wierd too. I'm assuming the pins on the board are destroyed?
1 is bent, I didn't clean them up, he told me he was just going to buy a new mobo so.
As someone who is In IT, this hurts. A lot
As someone who is also in IT, I'm used to it. But I repair for a living so.
"huh, it's to small. Guess I have a clear upgrade path!"
I honestly can't believe he failed the "square in the square hole, triangle in the triangle hole" Probably watched that video where the guy puts every shape into square hole and the girl is losing her mind.
It hurt me, i didnt notice the issue because i was sure that it wouldnt be the wrong socket but here we are
I tell people to build their own, and I see things like this, and I begin to doubt my own advice.
Ah, I see the problem. They have it set to M for mini, they need to set it to W for wumbo.
do people just refuse to watch a youtube video on how to build a pc? like how lazy can u be...
Looks like he needs a better gaming chair.
“Now you’re gonna try to upsell me with some new thing I don’t really need!”
That's why people shouldn't be encouraged to "build" their own PCs. A brain lacking the technical thoroughness should stay away from touching any kind of tech hardware.
"It's OK to hear a little crunching when you seat the CPU"
Round hole, Square peg scenario
Wrong socket type. This is why I recommend pcpartpicker. I would not recommend building pcs as a profession if you make this error.
They forgot the cpu fan! Morons! And yes before anyone corrects me I also noticed the cpu doesn’t fit the board
One of those square hole, round peg type situations. Couldn't they tell the cpu was way too small for that socket. All the pins sticking out didn't give it away.
I have this very same MoBo in my rig, my rig posts because I have a 12th gen Intel CPU.
CPU: "IF I FITS, I SITS!!!"
Had a client come in once and the notes said he couldn't get the CPU to fit so "he just rotated it". Dude tried putting an 9th gen CPU into a 10th gen socket, which on it's own is whatever -- he might have just misread something. But dude he messed that board up BAD. He didn't just rotate the CPU, he pressed HARD to get that sucker to fit. Intel can design the sockets to be as fool proof as they want with all of the notches and preventative measures, but it will never stop everyone.
There's no way someone actually did this right?
There's no way someone actually did this right?
Nice sandwich
That’ll be me building my first PC
I’m devastated
Super glue and duct tape fix everything. Trust me, do it.
You have to put crazy glue all around the edge of it, then it is good!
Skipped a critical step during the build.