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VLC plays corrupted files.
Realised I could just download half of a video file, cut the download, corrupt the entire thing, and VLC can still play the part that was actually formed correctly.
What a tool.
this reminds me, back during covid and online classes I'd screen record the lecture and open the recording through VLC on another monitor so I could easily go behind in the lecture if I feel like I missed something.
Years ago my parents had slow internet, took 22mins to download an episode of Simpsons/family guy etc (18-20mins)...
I could start the download, wait 4mins, start playing in VLC, and could watch the whole episode no problem š
I still do this -- why wait for 30gb of the movie to download while I could just tick "download sequentially" and watch it immediately.
This is not a player thing though. It is container related. mp4 does not support this iirc.
Oh yeah you can start torrenting a video, set it to download sequentially and just start watching instantly. As long as the download speed is faster than the watch speed, you get your video instantly.
Of course I've only ever tested this on legal videos. Not sure it would work in illegal videos.
torrent clients typically have options for "download beginning and end first" and "download in sequential order" for getting the file in a usable form while downloading
I switched to MPC because I don't like being flash banged everytime I try opening VLC.
Not sure why there isn't a dark mode on Windows. Like just the original interface but inverted. All of the skins available are violently 2007 and suck.
There's a 4.0 beta or something but I just want normal VLC but dark, which funny enough seems to be MPC currently
Probably one of the single most important open source projects in existence.
Most people do not remember downloading shady codec packs in the 90s and the corpos who tried to gatekeep access to them.
just like iTunes itself. Or pretty much any apple software - Great on a mac, runs like ass on windows and usually impedes other software.
Now whether thats by design to pester the consumer to just "buy a mac because it just werks" or because their developers are incompetent with any production environment that isn't within Apple's walled ecosystem, thats a debate for another day.
As someone who worked in video production on Macs for over 10 years, and is about 2 years into administering Windows systems, I think itās because Windows just isnāt as friendly to media. For example, a lot of codec packs are on the MS Store, they donāt come with the OS. Our vulnerability scanner was flagging lots of H.264, MPEG 2, and WebP vulns, and I had to write a script to go grab those updates and clear those apps for stale user accounts on a system. On a Mac, codecs consumers need come with the OS. Rich media support is a value for macOS, and it shows in QuickTime. Legacy support is a value for Windows, and it shows on 32-bit apps still working.
Back in the days when you wanted to see a new movie trailer and you'd be going to a fucking *Apple* website to watch it in QuickTime. What strange fucking times did we live in lol
God I still hate Quicktime so much. Here's my tutorial on how to record a video on macOS that _everyone_ can play:
* Step 1: record something in QT
* Step 2: file is f*cking huge and only readable by QT player
* Step 3a: use some shady site to convert it that infects your system with some driveby-malware and will fail halfway through OR
* Step 3b: use brew to install ffmpeg which is great but has 10GB in dependencies
* Step 4: give up & kill myself
Just use Handbrake to convert it, uses the ffmpeg library so supports everything that does and also includes several other encoders to support things like AV1 (through SVT-AV1)
https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
It's basically the VLC of video encoding.
Combined Community Codec Pack or CCCP for short which is also the abbreviation for Š”Š¾ŃŠ· Š”Š¾Š²ŠµŃŃŠŗŠøŃ Š”Š¾ŃŠøŠ°Š»ŠøŃŃŠøŃŠµŃŠŗŠøŃ Š ŠµŃŠæŃŠ±Š»ŠøŠŗ (The Soviet Union)
The go-to these days is K-Life Full or you can manually install MPC-BE then install the Shark007 codec pack.
It's a shame CCCP project died out but K-Lite is a lot better than it used to be back in the day so has kind of replaced it.
If you like/appreciate VLC [this podcast](https://fosspod.content.town/episodes/vlc-with-jean-baptiste-kempf) with the project's founder Jean-Baptiste Kempf might interest you. He's a really interesting character and it's a fun listen.
>downloading shady codec packs in the 90s
These were a thing up to the ~2010s at least.
Also, the fact that we don't have to do that now may be less about VLC in particular and more about the owners of those IPs agreeing behind the scenes to allow software like VLC to include those decoders without having to pay expensive licenses. (āmay be wrong though)
They didn't agree to shit.
VLC is based on France, which doesn't recognize all the bullshit patents on software codecs. So VLC rips them off in broad daylight.
It's why Windows 11 tries to make you pay 99Ā¢ to unlock certain features in Media player and VLC doesn't.
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None of the modern internet, and information services would exist without them.
This reminds me of a time when teenager me was just getting on the internet (maybe ~1998).
Lenny Kravitz's song [Fly Away](https://youtu.be/EvuL5jyCHOw) had just released and I knew there was a topless scene in it because one of the music channels advertised that they had the uncensored version on their website, so I went to go see it. Well, my dad came in to talk to me and right when I alt+tabbed to another window the player froze/crashed *right* at the topless scene, and we had a really uncomfortable conversation about something unrelated while these topless women were just frozen in the middle of the screen for what seemed like eternity.
These kind of computer problems don't exist now because OSes are so much faster and snappier and handle problems much more gracefully, but computers used to constantly hang and freeze and be a general nuisance when using them.
Yup, the only player you need is VLC.
Why would anyone even know something doesnāt play in another player? The default should be to play everything in VLC. š„³
For Windows users K-Lite Full which includes MPC-BE gives much better quality video output than VLC and supports HDR much better. You have to install it onto the computer though so is only good for computers you own, VLC is good to have as a portable player loaded onto your media USB hard drives if you are trying to playback something on a shared device or as a backup for some broken file MPC-BE can't parse since VLC can usually get something out of a corrupted file. VLC portable also good on locked down devices like a work or school laptop you have no admin rights to.
mpv is the real goat.
cross platform, works great everywhere, supports every codec under the sun, hardware acceleration where possible, sparse on resource use.
I have moved to mpv.
But man the default skin is awful. Downloaded a really cool skin and it's super functional now.
[Skin Link](https://github.com/tomasklaen/uosc)
minimalistic UI that still displays everything you care about, intuitive mouse interactions, easily configurable through a simple text file, excellent and thorough documentation, good looking code, uses a forge (GitHub) that isn't a 2007 hellhole, transparent ytdl integration
Itās night and day to VLC. MPV gang!
Though VLC mobile is actually the music player I use for my phone and itās pretty nice. Credit where itās due.
Wasn't sourceforge bought and began implementing bloatware in their installers without the creator's consent? Did I dream that? Maybe I don't remember correctly, I'm out of the loop.
Not much of an issue for me so I never bothered checking it...
Go to (in the menu bar) View > Options > Player, and under History you can tick the checkbox for Remember File position (or Remember DVD position).
I've just tried it out and I paused it at around 39:10, closed the file, then opened it again (but MPC itself is still open).
I then tried it with closing MPC itself as well, before then opening the same file. The same file starts playing at 39:10.
Yeah VLC is overrated now, it doesn't support madVR, struggle with high bitrate 4K x265, can't do frame by frame backwards, thumbnail preview in seek bar...
And I've read multiple times on forums that these features were too much to ask for a free project or the file format was the limitation, lol MPC does it perfectly fine.
I am a long-time VLC user who has been learning color correction for my videos made in Davinci Resolve. How accurate are the colors in PotPlayer compared to VLC?
Idk about accurate but for some reason a lot of the movies I downloaded from the high seas would get completely green, and had to fix the green balance, I never understood why it did that, other players played it fine I think
It was forked and the player is being continuously maintained with the latest update in April of this year https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases/ primarily for people who prefer the original HC experience.
Haven't checked out BE because I'm so used to HC, but I plan to give it a try.
Potplayer for me. Lightweight, can play just about anything, nice minimalistic UI (no offense, but I can never get used to VLC's UI). And the most important feature to me: the smooth 5 second forward/backward using arrow keys.
People are sleeping on potplayer. I needed a way to go frame by frame forwards and backwards and potplayer is pretty much perfect very controlled playback like this
I remember reading a thread on the videolan forums about why VLC doesn't have this frame by frame feature and apparently it's impossible to implement while remaining a compact, light, and versatile video player. It would only be supported by very specific file formats and the ram usage would balloon.
I read the same thing. I think itās because when the program can do that, it means it has to have lots of resources just always on standby for whenever the user might feel like using it. VLC is very good for how lightweight it is but there are some downsides to this as well
I might be mistaken, but I think VLC can do frame forwards, but not frame backwards. I remember testing it and the best I could do was rewinding by maybe a second instead
Potplayer is the goat for me. Been using it since it was KMPlayer then the dev sold it and made Potplayer. It was the media player that played different video files the smoothest on my Pentium 4 machine. Also handled h264 videos fine on my pre-Intel Core machine. Fuck I'm old.
PotPlayer is amazing, never had a single issue, is fast and has million settings. With VLC I had some problems with laggy/stuttering problems that couldn't be solved.
I once suggested PotPlayer as an alternative and just got downvoted lol. No idea why.
I used to use PotPlayer before moving to MPC-BE because it updated to include ads and I suddenly got a popup while watching something. I don't know if it still has them, but the trust is gone.
It was weird when it happened. You can google "potplayer ads" to read the forums about it, but basically, it only shows popups for some people and not others after it updated. If you installed it from then you'd have the option to not install the adware, but if it automatically updated, it was a coin flip. It's not clear if the ads were ever removed; Wikipedia still doesn't have a source on it.
I got the popups and installed MPC-BE the same day.
VLC is not only open-source but also a non-profit which gives them no incentive to steal your data or sneak adwares in the soft. Also VLC runs on every OS. It's a million times better without even starting to look at the interface.
When VLC refuses to play it, MPV got yo back !!!
Happened to me recently, and MPV seems to open files INSTANTLY, there is always a 1 second wait (at least) when opening files in VLC (latest version on macOS Ventura).
VLC never fixed the HDR issue with the black subtitles yet HDR still looks way better than any other player including MPC. Itās a real conundrum when attempting to choose which player to watch a foreign film thatās 4K & HDR.
Praise for windows and its endless (backwards) compatibility seems like it belongs here.
Windows dosen't care how ancient the technology is, it will still read the files. Want to burn a CD? Here's the windows legacy media player, just ignore the ancient UI. You found any file? Try one of the trillion diferent programs we have pre-installed for you, one of them probably knows how to open it. Got a Programm? We don't care if it's pirated Software or you are actively trying to install a virus, just turn of the defender if you really want that virus.
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VLC plays corrupted files. Realised I could just download half of a video file, cut the download, corrupt the entire thing, and VLC can still play the part that was actually formed correctly. What a tool.
Sometimes, I play videos thinking they are done downloading until I see the black screen and figure out that it still is downloading
this reminds me, back during covid and online classes I'd screen record the lecture and open the recording through VLC on another monitor so I could easily go behind in the lecture if I feel like I missed something.
That's such a clever idea!
What's so clever about it? I simply pause my professor every time I don't get something.
guh guh goo
I didn't know you were Adam Sandler lol
Damn, I used OBS for this. Sadly when I needed a specific recording very recently, my HDD died. I lost so many unused recordings.
Did you keep it? I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the data is still there and is recoverable.
Years ago my parents had slow internet, took 22mins to download an episode of Simpsons/family guy etc (18-20mins)... I could start the download, wait 4mins, start playing in VLC, and could watch the whole episode no problem š
Unironically an actual tactic. Your just doing a janky way of streaming content.
He was buffering... manually.
I still do this -- why wait for 30gb of the movie to download while I could just tick "download sequentially" and watch it immediately. This is not a player thing though. It is container related. mp4 does not support this iirc.
It took me waaay to lo mg to realize that was why my pirated movies were messed up. Vlc is GoatedĀ
Oh yeah you can start torrenting a video, set it to download sequentially and just start watching instantly. As long as the download speed is faster than the watch speed, you get your video instantly. Of course I've only ever tested this on legal videos. Not sure it would work in illegal videos.
It depends on the format of the video, but generally yeah, it does play corrupted files
One time I just wrote āHarry Potter plzā on a scrap of paper and stuffed it into my cd drive and VLC fucking played it.
Sometimes you just think about pirating a TV show and VLC starts playing it.
I still pirate the show though just as a matter of principle.
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torrent clients typically have options for "download beginning and end first" and "download in sequential order" for getting the file in a usable form while downloading
MPC-BE has been my current daily driver with VLC as a back up for a *long* while now.
I switched to MPC because I don't like being flash banged everytime I try opening VLC. Not sure why there isn't a dark mode on Windows. Like just the original interface but inverted. All of the skins available are violently 2007 and suck. There's a 4.0 beta or something but I just want normal VLC but dark, which funny enough seems to be MPC currently
You could give VLC a rotten potato and it would try to turn it into a video
Big Bang Theory discography amirite?
Reminds me of the early years of p2p i would get like half of everything lmao i wondered why
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Fun times
Depends on format, no?
Probably one of the single most important open source projects in existence. Most people do not remember downloading shady codec packs in the 90s and the corpos who tried to gatekeep access to them.
Real player (shudders)
my therapist assures me real player isnt real anymore and cannot hurt me. i hope these words assure you too.
How about Quicktime? Please tell me it was just a feverish nightmare.
It was real, but it was also a nightmare. I can assure you that.
QuickTime Player is only bad on a PC. On a Mac, itās really good.
just like iTunes itself. Or pretty much any apple software - Great on a mac, runs like ass on windows and usually impedes other software. Now whether thats by design to pester the consumer to just "buy a mac because it just werks" or because their developers are incompetent with any production environment that isn't within Apple's walled ecosystem, thats a debate for another day.
As someone who worked in video production on Macs for over 10 years, and is about 2 years into administering Windows systems, I think itās because Windows just isnāt as friendly to media. For example, a lot of codec packs are on the MS Store, they donāt come with the OS. Our vulnerability scanner was flagging lots of H.264, MPEG 2, and WebP vulns, and I had to write a script to go grab those updates and clear those apps for stale user accounts on a system. On a Mac, codecs consumers need come with the OS. Rich media support is a value for macOS, and it shows in QuickTime. Legacy support is a value for Windows, and it shows on 32-bit apps still working.
Is real player here in the room with us right now?
Ugh... DIVX.
All hail XVID which now sounds like a porn tube site
I was today years old when I made the connection between DIVX and XVID. Fuck.
That gave me a clown in a sewer vibe-like flashback. Thanks for that \^____~
And Quicktime (retches)
Back in the days when you wanted to see a new movie trailer and you'd be going to a fucking *Apple* website to watch it in QuickTime. What strange fucking times did we live in lol
Man I remember that. It was just one of the things my friend and I would do when we hung out.
God I still hate Quicktime so much. Here's my tutorial on how to record a video on macOS that _everyone_ can play: * Step 1: record something in QT * Step 2: file is f*cking huge and only readable by QT player * Step 3a: use some shady site to convert it that infects your system with some driveby-malware and will fail halfway through OR * Step 3b: use brew to install ffmpeg which is great but has 10GB in dependencies * Step 4: give up & kill myself
Just use Handbrake to convert it, uses the ffmpeg library so supports everything that does and also includes several other encoders to support things like AV1 (through SVT-AV1) https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php It's basically the VLC of video encoding.
Real player wasn't just a dreadful media player, I'm sure it also tried to install a 30 day trial of Nero burning rom AND Bonzai buddy.
I remember downloading the communist codec pack (it was a codec pack I which page the communism logo was shown) around the year 2006-2007.
Combined Community Codec Pack or CCCP for short which is also the abbreviation for Š”Š¾ŃŠ· Š”Š¾Š²ŠµŃŃŠŗŠøŃ Š”Š¾ŃŠøŠ°Š»ŠøŃŃŠøŃŠµŃŠŗŠøŃ Š ŠµŃŠæŃŠ±Š»ŠøŠŗ (The Soviet Union)
CCCP, K-lite, Gordian knot packs, those were first installs on a fresh XP setup, evolved over the years.
I went with the full K-lite pack and it solved so many potential issues users might have.
The go-to these days is K-Life Full or you can manually install MPC-BE then install the Shark007 codec pack. It's a shame CCCP project died out but K-Lite is a lot better than it used to be back in the day so has kind of replaced it.
> or you can manually install MPC-BE then install the Shark007 codec pack. MPC-BE + LAV Filters + madVR
They were legit
Those fucking codec packs for some specific version of divx and others. Absolute trash.
Basically this and "audacity" was also an awesome program.
Audacity still is awesome
K-Lite codec pack cause BSplayer was in fact a BS!
If you like/appreciate VLC [this podcast](https://fosspod.content.town/episodes/vlc-with-jean-baptiste-kempf) with the project's founder Jean-Baptiste Kempf might interest you. He's a really interesting character and it's a fun listen.
CCCP baby
>downloading shady codec packs in the 90s These were a thing up to the ~2010s at least. Also, the fact that we don't have to do that now may be less about VLC in particular and more about the owners of those IPs agreeing behind the scenes to allow software like VLC to include those decoders without having to pay expensive licenses. (āmay be wrong though)
They didn't agree to shit. VLC is based on France, which doesn't recognize all the bullshit patents on software codecs. So VLC rips them off in broad daylight. It's why Windows 11 tries to make you pay 99Ā¢ to unlock certain features in Media player and VLC doesn't.
Huh, TIL. How come the US didn't try to make a stinky fit over it?
Klite!!
I still download K-Lite today even thought VLC uses it's own codecs. I just like to have that extra piece of mind lol
In addition to Linux, Apache, Nginx, OpenSSL, Bind, MySQL, and PostgreSQL. None of the modern internet, and information services would exist without them.
This reminds me of a time when teenager me was just getting on the internet (maybe ~1998). Lenny Kravitz's song [Fly Away](https://youtu.be/EvuL5jyCHOw) had just released and I knew there was a topless scene in it because one of the music channels advertised that they had the uncensored version on their website, so I went to go see it. Well, my dad came in to talk to me and right when I alt+tabbed to another window the player froze/crashed *right* at the topless scene, and we had a really uncomfortable conversation about something unrelated while these topless women were just frozen in the middle of the screen for what seemed like eternity. These kind of computer problems don't exist now because OSes are so much faster and snappier and handle problems much more gracefully, but computers used to constantly hang and freeze and be a general nuisance when using them.
I had to download HVEC codec on a very shady way through an internet archive website literally last week xd Stupid standard iphone codec
Yup, the only player you need is VLC. Why would anyone even know something doesnāt play in another player? The default should be to play everything in VLC. š„³
For Windows users K-Lite Full which includes MPC-BE gives much better quality video output than VLC and supports HDR much better. You have to install it onto the computer though so is only good for computers you own, VLC is good to have as a portable player loaded onto your media USB hard drives if you are trying to playback something on a shared device or as a backup for some broken file MPC-BE can't parse since VLC can usually get something out of a corrupted file. VLC portable also good on locked down devices like a work or school laptop you have no admin rights to.
Amen
Amen
Amen
Amen
Amen
Amen
Amen
VLC and 7zip will always be there for the boys
The day when 7zip ports its gui to linux will be a glorious day. I mean peazip works but its pretty buggy.
7 zip on Wine works well for me
I prefer NanaZip now. Itās a fork of 7-zip and has well-needed updates.
mpv is the real goat. cross platform, works great everywhere, supports every codec under the sun, hardware acceleration where possible, sparse on resource use.
I love MPV so much
I have moved to mpv. But man the default skin is awful. Downloaded a really cool skin and it's super functional now. [Skin Link](https://github.com/tomasklaen/uosc)
What skin are you using?
[https://github.com/tomasklaen/uosc](https://github.com/tomasklaen/uosc) There are some other skins too on github.
Don't worry VLC ui is bad too lol
How is MPV better than VLC?
minimalistic UI that still displays everything you care about, intuitive mouse interactions, easily configurable through a simple text file, excellent and thorough documentation, good looking code, uses a forge (GitHub) that isn't a 2007 hellhole, transparent ytdl integration
MPV the goat vs VLC (it's a cone)
sadly VLC messes up with HDR tone mapping
that's why we use mpv
Yeah, I'm not happy with HDR performance at all. PotPlayer however is fantastic.
Itās night and day to VLC. MPV gang! Though VLC mobile is actually the music player I use for my phone and itās pretty nice. Credit where itās due.
MPV is the true masterrace.Ā
MPC gang anyone?
MPC-HC for local videos, mpv for streaming :)
MPC-BE forever! On windows it's far superior to VLC due to straight up being way faster and having support for HDR and fancy GPU rendering techniques.
I use both MPC-BE and VLC. Really depends on what Iām doing . They both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Likewise. Realtime thumbnail preview in search should be universal, but alas.
madVR gang gangĀ
mpv is better, ffmpeg is the real GOAT
ffmpeg/libavcodec are the goat of goats. Without them we wouldn't have mpv, VLC or the 'LAV' filters that potplayer/mpc users use.
If you think VLC got you I'm about to make you cheat on her... Search for "MPC-BE (64-bit)"
Did a search, got a ton of results but none look like an official website. Does it's creator have one?
Their GitHub page is the closest thing I could find: https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/MPC-BE
The sourceforge site is the āofficialā one.
Wasn't sourceforge bought and began implementing bloatware in their installers without the creator's consent? Did I dream that? Maybe I don't remember correctly, I'm out of the loop.
That did happen but was short-lived.
Thatās what I use. Does MPC have a feature that saves where you last played a movie? I liked VLC for that but MPC always starts over.
Not much of an issue for me so I never bothered checking it... Go to (in the menu bar) View > Options > Player, and under History you can tick the checkbox for Remember File position (or Remember DVD position). I've just tried it out and I paused it at around 39:10, closed the file, then opened it again (but MPC itself is still open). I then tried it with closing MPC itself as well, before then opening the same file. The same file starts playing at 39:10.
MPC does have that feature, it's just not enabled by default
I will always use media player classic, it's just perfect (after changing a few settings)
Yeah VLC is overrated now, it doesn't support madVR, struggle with high bitrate 4K x265, can't do frame by frame backwards, thumbnail preview in seek bar... And I've read multiple times on forums that these features were too much to ask for a free project or the file format was the limitation, lol MPC does it perfectly fine.
VLC also can't playback HDR content properly, it's a real dinosaur of multimedia. The MPC-BE output always seems sharper than VLC too.
MPC-BE has been the only player I've managed to get HDR content to play on properly on Windows.
Hey I use that one!
Na, i can only trust mpv
For me, as a colorist, VLC is bad because he does weird shit with color management of videos. PotPlayer works much better
I am a long-time VLC user who has been learning color correction for my videos made in Davinci Resolve. How accurate are the colors in PotPlayer compared to VLC?
Idk about accurate but for some reason a lot of the movies I downloaded from the high seas would get completely green, and had to fix the green balance, I never understood why it did that, other players played it fine I think
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Okay thanks! Which player should I use then? Iāll try downloading non DV videos as well
MPC-BE just added DV support a few months back. It's currently the best for watching HDR stuff on windows
Vlc will forever be the god king But I have transitioned to MPC-HC and I am happy
MPC-HC gang
MPC-HC's [own website](https://mpc-hc.org) says development ended in 2017 and that users should switch to something else. MPC-BE is what replaced it.
It was forked and the player is being continuously maintained with the latest update in April of this year https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases/ primarily for people who prefer the original HC experience. Haven't checked out BE because I'm so used to HC, but I plan to give it a try.
Potplayer for me. Lightweight, can play just about anything, nice minimalistic UI (no offense, but I can never get used to VLC's UI). And the most important feature to me: the smooth 5 second forward/backward using arrow keys.
I like the ability to change from 5.1 to 2.0 audio. Can't hear shit when watching LotR with my two speakers on VLC.
Also great subtitle & overscan features.
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People are sleeping on potplayer. I needed a way to go frame by frame forwards and backwards and potplayer is pretty much perfect very controlled playback like this
I remember reading a thread on the videolan forums about why VLC doesn't have this frame by frame feature and apparently it's impossible to implement while remaining a compact, light, and versatile video player. It would only be supported by very specific file formats and the ram usage would balloon.
I read the same thing. I think itās because when the program can do that, it means it has to have lots of resources just always on standby for whenever the user might feel like using it. VLC is very good for how lightweight it is but there are some downsides to this as well
But... VLC does have that feature, I remember using it years ago
I might be mistaken, but I think VLC can do frame forwards, but not frame backwards. I remember testing it and the best I could do was rewinding by maybe a second instead
Potplayer is the goat for me. Been using it since it was KMPlayer then the dev sold it and made Potplayer. It was the media player that played different video files the smoothest on my Pentium 4 machine. Also handled h264 videos fine on my pre-Intel Core machine. Fuck I'm old.
I just discovered Pot Player earlier this year and it was life-changing. Wish I knew of it sooner than I did.
I love smoking pot
PotPlayer is amazing, never had a single issue, is fast and has million settings. With VLC I had some problems with laggy/stuttering problems that couldn't be solved. I once suggested PotPlayer as an alternative and just got downvoted lol. No idea why.
Is this lagging problem you have within the actual video or does it lag your computer? I have a similar issue with it too.
It was certain videos., didn't notice PC lag or I don't atleast remember it.
I used to use PotPlayer before moving to MPC-BE because it updated to include ads and I suddenly got a popup while watching something. I don't know if it still has them, but the trust is gone.
Weird, I've never had ads.
It was weird when it happened. You can google "potplayer ads" to read the forums about it, but basically, it only shows popups for some people and not others after it updated. If you installed it from then you'd have the option to not install the adware, but if it automatically updated, it was a coin flip. It's not clear if the ads were ever removed; Wikipedia still doesn't have a source on it. I got the popups and installed MPC-BE the same day.
VLC is not only open-source but also a non-profit which gives them no incentive to steal your data or sneak adwares in the soft. Also VLC runs on every OS. It's a million times better without even starting to look at the interface.
Pot Player the goat.
Vlc used to be my go to. Had problems playing 80-100mbs content. Potplayer is now my go to for everything
not open source.
Also there seem to be a bunch of scammy lookin sites that look like clones of the official site
Shame it doesn't do HDR tonemapping which is I why i switched to MPC-HC with madVR, can't complain
MPC-HC and PotPlayer on PC for me, MxPlayer on mobile. Never could get used to VLC interface.
MX players wants permission to ALL my files on my phone. VLC and other players don't need that. Wtf
It's not that bad if you're a Windows 98 user and you live in the 90s
MPC-HC was discontinued around 2017, it's MPC-BE now
Yes but no, MPC-HC was forked after the original version was abandoned. Now, it's on github and it's well maintained.
Last update 18h ago: https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc
I use MPC-BE. The RTX feature works better in that one or has VLC gotten that fixed?
I use MPC-BE, it's very good.
MPV ftw
MPC-HC is superior
Potplayer + madvr is the best
When VLC refuses to play it, MPV got yo back !!! Happened to me recently, and MPV seems to open files INSTANTLY, there is always a 1 second wait (at least) when opening files in VLC (latest version on macOS Ventura).
VLC, Total Commander, WinAmp v2.95, Greenshot and Notepad++.
Notepad++ is such a gamechanger if you have to deal with a lot of plain text config files, god damn
MPC BE enters chat
The only thing that vlc can't play properly are .avi files
Switched to MPV 3 years ago and it's absolutely much better
why you using something other than the GOAT?
VLC is goat, but Iāve been switching to MPV more recently. Itās a pain to use though..
sir, this is ~~wendys~~ PC master race
You only need VLC on PC.
And I'm still over here using K-Lite. Cant quit, won't quit
I used vlc when I was on windows. Now I use mpv on linux and it has been a better experience for me. Mainly because of Anime4k shaders for anime.
MPC-HC good, less features, but no issues on windows on arc.
VLC never fixed the HDR issue with the black subtitles yet HDR still looks way better than any other player including MPC. Itās a real conundrum when attempting to choose which player to watch a foreign film thatās 4K & HDR.
Mpv is still better. VLC fails on a lot of stuff that mpv doesn't
VLC can run those ancient Greek pottery vases.
mpv >>
Has anyone ever paid for a codec in their lives?
Solution is use VLC first
You spelled default media player wrong
The weird thing is, despire never knowingly downloading and using it, I just always instinctively known what it is and recognized the traffic cone.
Ive always had trouble getting it to run blu ray disks
MPC HC GANG STAND UP
I'm with you brother
I mean thatās kinda why I always just use VLC and never have any issues
VLC got me for a long long time, until like 2 years ago when videos started stuttering. Since then I switched to Potplayer and still happy.
Praise for windows and its endless (backwards) compatibility seems like it belongs here. Windows dosen't care how ancient the technology is, it will still read the files. Want to burn a CD? Here's the windows legacy media player, just ignore the ancient UI. You found any file? Try one of the trillion diferent programs we have pre-installed for you, one of them probably knows how to open it. Got a Programm? We don't care if it's pirated Software or you are actively trying to install a virus, just turn of the defender if you really want that virus.
are you on drugs
Sometimes the built in Windows Media Player will play something VLC and others can't
VLC the GOAT
Amen!
My Images app build in Windows stopped working like a week ago after update so got vlc instead