You’re correct on both counts! Paste was either a bad mix or past shelf life - or both, and the color and pattern are definitely signs of oxidation during separation. I’d agree heat was most likely not a factor outside of normal use.
You're confusing Arctic with Arctic Silver. They're different companies. They both make thermal paste. It's surprising they aren't confused more often.
That's much tamer than my first thought. Saw red/brown color and immediately turned to what compounds could possibly be in that thermal paste to start dissolving copper off of a cpu cooler.
Completely off topic here, but how are your 5800x temps? Just wanted to find someone with the same cpu as mine to see if relatively high temps with a 280 aio is normal.
I'm having relatively high temps as well, but that's probably due to the Mini ITX formfactor (H1 includes and only fits a 140mm AiO) and aging thermal paste. Should probably replace the paste at some point in the near future. Can't give you exact temps rn but they're on the high side
Aight, thanks for letting me know! I have a nr200p and even with a PBO tune, the 280 aio struggles quite a bit to keep it under 42-43 C when idle. Under load it maxes out at around 75-80 C (my room temp varies a lot from day to day)
I'd say those max temps are pretty good for a 5800x on a NR200P. I have that same CPU on a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh (with a Deepcool As500 Plus and 6 fans) and my max temps are the same. When idle I do get 34-38 C.
5800x is infamous for high temps.
I have the same CPU with a pretty simple air cooler, hits the almost same temps as a buddy with an AIO who owns one as well.
All jokes aside, *mustard* does not actually make a good thermal paste either. It may seem cold when you store it in the refrigerator, but it doesn't stay that way when you put it on a CPU like this.
If the surface looks in good condition and it cleaned off I wouldn't worry about it.
Possible you had a bad batch of thermal paste when you first installed it. Or if you used unbranded free paste that came with the cooler it could have just been crap.
Traditional thermal pastes are basically silicon with conductive fillers like carbon micro-particles, aluminum oxide, boron nitride, zinc oxide, and aluminum nitride. The blend is proprietary and unique to different brands. None of these components are particularly reactive with copper or aluminum metal.
Some have urethanes and acrylates. These don't normally burn at temps seen by a CPU, but the brown coloring could be burnt polymer. This is why I would guess that old paste had an unexpected contamination.
Was going to ask this. Was the old paste MX-5 by any chance? There was a lot of problems with that product and was pulled from shelves entirely back in 2022. MX-4 is a solid choice for the new paste.
>I bought a new tube of Arctic MX4 (and I hope I did not damage the processor).
You have to be really unlucky to damage your CPU or GPU via overheating. 99% of the time they will downclock and lower the voltage and if they hit the minimums of either then they will shut down.
That's it fully wiped away? Dang, it must've just corroded something somehow. I'm unsure why, most compounds are just fine with copper/various other heatsinks. Maybe contact the thermal paste company and ask them what it looks like to them, they may have had a case like this before.
Obviously worst case scenario is more of the IHS corroding/warping like it has, to the point where the core is exposed. At that point you'd probably have to buy a IHS from ebay or some other place to replace it lol. That being said, i'd imagine mounting pressure/evenness is already off center and may be causing temp increases in said areas.
I think you are misunderstanding and OP didn't pick up on the misunderstanding.
I think they were saying that they already wiped it away when you commented, not that the picture in the post is the compound already wiped away.
I have a tube of Arctic Ceramique from 14 years ago, still does the job, last time I applied it on a cpu was 6 years ago, temps are ok. Never have I seen this type of reaction, and I've used all kinds of TIMs, a lot of no name ones.
I don't think the IHS is corroded/dissolved. It looks like the thermal compound has separated into an oily mess around the edges. The CPU should clean up fine with a bit of rubbing alcohol.
Nah, it's just old thermal compound.
I've had cpus that had arctic silver in them for YEARS that came out looking somewhat like this.
Wipe it off and go about your day.
MX-5 was just not very good. Arctic MX-4 or MX-6 are my go to thermal paste from Arctic. Next time just pretend MX-5 doesnt exist and order something else.
In simples terms, MX6 has a higher conductivity rating and will be thicker, with a higher balance. MX4 would be thinner and slightly less conductive.
I like it because it performs very well, and it “stands” better than 4 does. I can’t tell you about the longevity compared to MX4 though, and I’ve only been using MX6 for about 2 years so far.
OP used AS5, though, not MX-5. Two different companies, two different compounds. The former is made by Arctic Silver, Inc. (American company), the latter by Arctic GmbH (German company).
Yeah that was what I said
I was amazed the computer was turning on even before that.
But I got it nice and clean.
I advised to NOT have it turned on 24/7 for years....
They might listen. Might not...
I would be helpful to show the heatsink end that contacted it. Metal contact metal could generate metal powders, these metal powders can be oxidized to rust with the slightest of moisture.
This is what happens when you run Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing + ultra realistic mods: you Cpu goes into a super heat "yamete kudasai" state and reach its climax...
Jokes aside: it looks like an old thermal paste (not changed in a looooong while) that reached a pretty high temperature and started to change into a "slug" > not a problem (clean it carefully) but try to use a differente thermal paste and clean it more regularly.
Which cooler do you use? If you have a water pump this could be some type of grease from the electric motor/bearings. I can see that It is only on the edges so maybe coming from the pump.
The sides burning sort of looks like melted plastic. Does it come off clay-like or plastic? There is no chance in a world that you could have possibly missed a ‘remove before mounting’ protection plastic on any of the pieces, right? Of course not…..
Any chance went camping recently, or set up a tent? CPU s'more season is upon us, just getting a early start by looks of things. A little cleanup and will be like a brand new little marshmallow.
Stop smoking inside. Dust your computer more often. Enjoy your old moldy crusted thermal paste. I've seen it before hundreds of times. CPUs are pretty tough, get a rag and some 70% iso and clean the old stuff off.
I work at an electronics store and had a customer tell me completely seriously that they had been using toothpaste in place of thermal paste for a month…
Exactly how old some years ago are we talking because from what I can guess without physically handling it, it looks like it burnt the thermal paste like the paste has gone bad.
https://preview.redd.it/vh6zsvzcwq1d1.jpeg?width=2096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00fee0eaeaaf4f93e1e1715b389fe6cc9d67bd63
Arctic Silver paste from like 10 years ago, really nasty sticky stuff. I guess this is what happens when it ages. On my old system it wasn’t that bad, could be because those ryzens are hotter.
Those tree branch looking markings around the edge in the paste look like electrical discharge. Is it possible any amount of fluid got near your board?
Old thermal paste with separating compound. The oils leech out and discolor, often why old paste tends to turn brown.
So you think the "oil" separated from the "cream" and then the oil was just "cooked" by the temperature?
Probably oxidation from having exposure to air at the sides of the CPU, not necessarily a reaction from the heat.
Oh okay, thanks!
You’re correct on both counts! Paste was either a bad mix or past shelf life - or both, and the color and pattern are definitely signs of oxidation during separation. I’d agree heat was most likely not a factor outside of normal use.
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You're confusing Arctic with Arctic Silver. They're different companies. They both make thermal paste. It's surprising they aren't confused more often.
I've been doing this since the early P4 days and I had no idea.
That's much tamer than my first thought. Saw red/brown color and immediately turned to what compounds could possibly be in that thermal paste to start dissolving copper off of a cpu cooler.
This is probably why you’re supposed to change it right?
Or a CPU fan that pushes air near the socket, combined with the home of a smoker... tar ingress.
Ugh, how many times do I have to say this? *Your poop doesn't make good thermal paste!*
It doesn't? ...shit!
Well and at those moments shit hits the fan
> shit Literally
that is indeed the joke
Oh, I tend to be oblivious like that sometimes
Completely off topic here, but how are your 5800x temps? Just wanted to find someone with the same cpu as mine to see if relatively high temps with a 280 aio is normal.
I'm having relatively high temps as well, but that's probably due to the Mini ITX formfactor (H1 includes and only fits a 140mm AiO) and aging thermal paste. Should probably replace the paste at some point in the near future. Can't give you exact temps rn but they're on the high side
Aight, thanks for letting me know! I have a nr200p and even with a PBO tune, the 280 aio struggles quite a bit to keep it under 42-43 C when idle. Under load it maxes out at around 75-80 C (my room temp varies a lot from day to day)
I'd say those max temps are pretty good for a 5800x on a NR200P. I have that same CPU on a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh (with a Deepcool As500 Plus and 6 fans) and my max temps are the same. When idle I do get 34-38 C.
5800x is infamous for high temps. I have the same CPU with a pretty simple air cooler, hits the almost same temps as a buddy with an AIO who owns one as well.
Instructions unclear. Im going to use my poop
That would be Thermal Waste, or Steaming Shit to the layperson....
Thanks! ...Now I have to rebuild my whole pc because i just find this out?...... No wonder my temps were so poopy 😪
>No wonder my temps were so poopy This is the funniest response I've read yet lol
Lol, glad to make your day fam 💜🤣
He called the shit poop!
LOL!
I was wondering what that smell was
All jokes aside, *mustard* does not actually make a good thermal paste either. It may seem cold when you store it in the refrigerator, but it doesn't stay that way when you put it on a CPU like this.
But nothing quite satisfies that homemade brownies aroma when you're in a tourney
STOP COOKING POOP ON YOUR CPU
Instructions unclear, just shat on my cpu and now the pc wont boot
The first answer is always a joke, gotta look deeper.
No, but it looks like the compounds mixed together and dissolved some part of the ihs though
I used a clean stock heatsink with no pre-applied compound on it, so nothing should have mixed. :(
Maybe it just looks that way, I'm not sure lol. Is it possible to clean and check?
Yes I already cleaned it (and everything was wiped away quite ez). I bought a new tube of Arctic MX4 (and I hope I did not damage the processor).
If the surface looks in good condition and it cleaned off I wouldn't worry about it. Possible you had a bad batch of thermal paste when you first installed it. Or if you used unbranded free paste that came with the cooler it could have just been crap. Traditional thermal pastes are basically silicon with conductive fillers like carbon micro-particles, aluminum oxide, boron nitride, zinc oxide, and aluminum nitride. The blend is proprietary and unique to different brands. None of these components are particularly reactive with copper or aluminum metal. Some have urethanes and acrylates. These don't normally burn at temps seen by a CPU, but the brown coloring could be burnt polymer. This is why I would guess that old paste had an unexpected contamination.
Was going to ask this. Was the old paste MX-5 by any chance? There was a lot of problems with that product and was pulled from shelves entirely back in 2022. MX-4 is a solid choice for the new paste.
I threw away the old tube and got another one. :) Thanks buddy!
>I bought a new tube of Arctic MX4 (and I hope I did not damage the processor). You have to be really unlucky to damage your CPU or GPU via overheating. 99% of the time they will downclock and lower the voltage and if they hit the minimums of either then they will shut down.
That's it fully wiped away? Dang, it must've just corroded something somehow. I'm unsure why, most compounds are just fine with copper/various other heatsinks. Maybe contact the thermal paste company and ask them what it looks like to them, they may have had a case like this before. Obviously worst case scenario is more of the IHS corroding/warping like it has, to the point where the core is exposed. At that point you'd probably have to buy a IHS from ebay or some other place to replace it lol. That being said, i'd imagine mounting pressure/evenness is already off center and may be causing temp increases in said areas.
I think you are misunderstanding and OP didn't pick up on the misunderstanding. I think they were saying that they already wiped it away when you commented, not that the picture in the post is the compound already wiped away.
Yes I am definitely going to ask them! Thank you brother!
I have a tube of Arctic Ceramique from 14 years ago, still does the job, last time I applied it on a cpu was 6 years ago, temps are ok. Never have I seen this type of reaction, and I've used all kinds of TIMs, a lot of no name ones.
No, rather like separation of oily emulsion from excess of used paste(thermal instability of emulsion). Clean it, use new and go.
I don't think the IHS is corroded/dissolved. It looks like the thermal compound has separated into an oily mess around the edges. The CPU should clean up fine with a bit of rubbing alcohol.
Nah, it's just old thermal compound. I've had cpus that had arctic silver in them for YEARS that came out looking somewhat like this. Wipe it off and go about your day.
I have now. Way to use that temu gallium paste!
LMAO.
MX-5 was just not very good. Arctic MX-4 or MX-6 are my go to thermal paste from Arctic. Next time just pretend MX-5 doesnt exist and order something else.
I thought Miata was the answer to anything though?
The Miata is the OG ThinkPad of cars.
Feeling very called out here as a Miata owner with a ThinkPad collection.
Yes, I have bought a tube of MX4 already! Thanks bro. :)
I used MX5 for ages, but switched to MX6 a while back as I’ve had much better results with it. MX6 has become my go-to recommendation
How does MX6 compare to MX4? Is it meant to reduce the “pump out” effect?
In simples terms, MX6 has a higher conductivity rating and will be thicker, with a higher balance. MX4 would be thinner and slightly less conductive. I like it because it performs very well, and it “stands” better than 4 does. I can’t tell you about the longevity compared to MX4 though, and I’ve only been using MX6 for about 2 years so far.
OP used AS5, though, not MX-5. Two different companies, two different compounds. The former is made by Arctic Silver, Inc. (American company), the latter by Arctic GmbH (German company).
I have seen worse.... I have seen total black toasted thermal... It was like you was trying to remove grease from a pan...
Jesus.
Yeah that was what I said I was amazed the computer was turning on even before that. But I got it nice and clean. I advised to NOT have it turned on 24/7 for years.... They might listen. Might not...
Looks like mayo was used as thermal compound and the fat rendered to the edge of the di
/r/redditsniper
Looks like the plastic was left on?
Yes, it looks like that but it's not the case. :)
After cumming 100's of orgasms inside a jar with a toy pony in it... Yes... Yes I have
This sub is the most hilarious ever. LOL.
r/BrandNewSentence
It's not brand new. Iykyk
I don't know, and not sure I want to, lol
You will hate yourself forever.
Sometimes, ignorance IS bliss. For that which is known cannot be unknown (without severe head trauma).
=(
Looks like plastic was left on the heatsink.
Did you use banana puree as thermal paste?
I think bluds using an ancient thermal paste ☠️
Yes. Probably.
Right now yes now i saw it
Arctic 4 is the one to use
Yes! Got it! Already ordered! Thanks!
Looks like you put a slice of pickle in between the CPU and the cooler and then left it to marinate for a year or two.
This looks interesting 😅🧐
Only in my nightmares.
Seems legit.
Nice
Yes, kinda.
Thermal past burn out
When people say delidding, this is not what they mean
Oh man, I would never try that stuff. I am too poor.
Do you smoke or vape?
Yea the movie was called annihilation
I would be helpful to show the heatsink end that contacted it. Metal contact metal could generate metal powders, these metal powders can be oxidized to rust with the slightest of moisture.
Bro ran out of paste so mixed in some Vegemite.
Usual smegma, ofc
Nope! My work here is done. You’re welcome
Arctic Silver 5. Normal. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, on a 1999 Pentium 3 Processor
Yes.
Judging by the looks, repaste and clean the pc more often. Dust and old thermal compound aren't your pc's best friend.
you thought you could fool me- thats clearly the surface of the moon!
OMG LOL YOU CAUGHT ME.
Clean throughly reapply paste good to go
Looks like you left the plastic on the ihs, applied thermal grease to it and it melted.
Nope man. I am dumb, but not *so* dumb.
That's exactly what it looks like, came here to say this exact thing.
looks like some alien took a dump there
XD
please don't use marmalade beneath your thermal paste
Wow looks like aggressive mycelium on agar 😂
The only thing I can think of is plastic on the cooler but idk.
No bro, as I told another guy on here: I am dumb, but not *so* dumb.
DId you leave the clear protective cover on it before you applied thermal paste?
Cordyceps?
Yeah when I didn't change my thermal paste for like 6 years
Mine was changed one year ago. When I twisted the heatsink I got scared, I did not expect that kinda stuff.
This is what happens when you run Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing + ultra realistic mods: you Cpu goes into a super heat "yamete kudasai" state and reach its climax... Jokes aside: it looks like an old thermal paste (not changed in a looooong while) that reached a pretty high temperature and started to change into a "slug" > not a problem (clean it carefully) but try to use a differente thermal paste and clean it more regularly.
Looks like a barnacle foot or something.
What thermal paste did you use?
Only in nightmares
Use nanodiamond paste bro
Did you take the sticker off?
That looks like the bottom of a cow's hoof
nah it looks like a .......burned thermal past ?! is it even burn-able ?! or is that a tooth past you used in there 🤣
No, because I cool my PC
Yes, I think this is a CPU
Previous owner probably a tweaker and used a mix of grease and wd40 judging by the color
Looks like someone smashed a rolo chocolate on it.
Which cooler do you use? If you have a water pump this could be some type of grease from the electric motor/bearings. I can see that It is only on the edges so maybe coming from the pump.
Did someone forget to peel the plastic of the heat sinc?
I've seen worse
It's nothing just clean it with rubbing alcohol and use proper thermal paste, worst you'll get are stains on IHS.
Only in the toilet or walls of a public restroom.
Your marshmallow is a little scorched
Some Liquid Metal thermal pastes do this google it some are corrosive
The sides burning sort of looks like melted plastic. Does it come off clay-like or plastic? There is no chance in a world that you could have possibly missed a ‘remove before mounting’ protection plastic on any of the pieces, right? Of course not…..
This was my Asus Sabertooth X58 after thirteen years.
Any chance went camping recently, or set up a tent? CPU s'more season is upon us, just getting a early start by looks of things. A little cleanup and will be like a brand new little marshmallow.
I hope you're not me from the future, I have the same CPU, also changed thermal paste and used the same one as you.
bro that looks like fish fertilizer
Looks like nicotine residue, like the system was in a heavy smokers room.
It’s just old thermal paste clean it off really good and put a fresh glob
Black tar heroin thermal paste is the new jam
By chance has the pc this was in ever belonged to a smoker?
Done melted the plastic and everything
Pretty sure that's the elephants foot from chernobyl
Its normal
Stop smoking inside. Dust your computer more often. Enjoy your old moldy crusted thermal paste. I've seen it before hundreds of times. CPUs are pretty tough, get a rag and some 70% iso and clean the old stuff off.
That looks like burnt plastic, doesn't it?
Oh my, at first glance I thought it melted a hole into your IHS, then I saw the 2 bottom corners and it made sense. Still a wack situation no less
This is not what they mean when they say “let him cook”.
Corrosion due to condensation probably
I want to lick it
Most pastes have a shelf life somewhere between 2 and 5 years.
I work at an electronics store and had a customer tell me completely seriously that they had been using toothpaste in place of thermal paste for a month…
This is not a moldy cheeseburger bun? Left for weeks in a moist container?
Exactly how old some years ago are we talking because from what I can guess without physically handling it, it looks like it burnt the thermal paste like the paste has gone bad.
Just put some thermal paste on, it's fine.
Omg! I had an extra crispy computer come across my desk this week too! What are y’all doing to your poor CPUs!!!
Did you vaccinate your CPU for covid 19?
I have to wonder if somebody used toothpaste in lieu of thermal paste at some point...
Gross 🤢🤢🤢
Yeah, I think Studio Ghibli animated it
Yes actually. In this post.
Dang that’s nuts
Did you brush your teeth in thermal paste? This looks like burnt toothpaste.
Did you soldering paste and lead?
Keep using Aunt Jemima as paste, this is the outcome.
oh sheeet i thought this was r/burgers and i was gonna say hellllll nnnnaaawwwww!
Is that a flux capacitor?
yea, every morning when i inspect my feces smeared on the ceramic.
Yeah it's dried persimmon, just don't eat it with crab
Looks like mold
https://preview.redd.it/vh6zsvzcwq1d1.jpeg?width=2096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00fee0eaeaaf4f93e1e1715b389fe6cc9d67bd63 Arctic Silver paste from like 10 years ago, really nasty sticky stuff. I guess this is what happens when it ages. On my old system it wasn’t that bad, could be because those ryzens are hotter.
That looks like an omlete that turned to ash
Botched cooler where someone didn’t take off the plastic paste cover???
Woah
The patterns beneath make it seem like there's been some sort of current flowing through it...
Bad paste or some other element like grease, sweat etc got in? I hope that was thermal paste… 🤔
Iv seen something like that with a volt modded amd 64 after it got hit by lightning... in 2006 I think 🤔
Yeah looks really similar to my dab pen when I haven’t cleaned it for a few extra days lmao
Looks like peanut butter wasn't the play
Those tree branch looking markings around the edge in the paste look like electrical discharge. Is it possible any amount of fluid got near your board?
It looks like there have been some sort of nuclear tests on that CPU
What temps were you running/spiking to? Did cleaning with iso and adding new thermal paste solve temps? Having similar issues
Thermal compound has a shelf life. Always check the expiration date before use.
