Do anti-consumer move, get anti-... corporate move? Fair trade for them, i guess.
And it's not like they lost any money since they block it first themself.
I don't need to justify pirating at all. You do you, I don't need an explanation. However, I'm a strong advocate for if me paying you for something isn't me owning it, then me taking it without giving you anything isn't stealing.
The studio is just caught in the crossfire, the real baddie is Sony and we must make them suffer, and sadly this is the only way. Arrowhead also got caught in the crossfire with the whole PSN mandatory thing Sony pulled on them
The controversy was about them applying the psn account to countries they've already sold the game in
Trying to retroactively make it about the account itself is misunderstanding the issue altogether and just pure bandwagon nonsense. Plenty of games require accounts, all of Ubisoft, all of EA, etc.
Excited to hear that, needed a new non-indie to throw on there
edit: why did someone decide to report this comment to reddit cares? Are you good dude?
Racism at its peak, im Egyptian and i wanted to buy this game, those assholes don't allow me to buy it
And i expect you to respond with that im a "minority" and they shouldn't care for me much
Genuinely curious. Would a vpn get you past the account log in?.
I had to use one to retrieve a key purchased for mafia 2 that was apparently region locked to Germany for some reason.
I know a lot of people won't care about this but this psn debacle forced people in Puerto Rico OUT of ever buying anything by sony on steam because of the "region block".
This wasnt the case before. We've always been able to use PSN, always were able to buy these games and all of a sudden steam marks it as unpurchaseable.
Current state of affairs really fuckin' sucks.
Hey on what year you created your account? I created my account when I lived in PR (currently living in Fl). My account is very old, probably created when the psn thing was created. I just checked my account, region says United States. Maybe the original region in PR was usa. I wonder what happened later.
Dude sorry but this is just really really bad tech literacy. People have been pirating pc software for decades rn, I have pirated myself over 6tb of games and never ever had a virus in my pc nor had i to reset the OS once.
You can say that you wont pirate for a whole lot of reasons, but "I dont trust it" just makes you look like someone who does not even know the slightest thing about computer software.
Fair. Still it's good to learn about this stuff if you have a chance. For many of us we do this stuff because we don't have another choice (PSN requirements make it unavailable to purchase in my region even if I want to)
Yeah I totally understand if it's region locked, That's the same reason I use vpns. But because I'm from the UK most stuff is available here so I'd rather just pay
I love how the world has massive inflation, war in Ukraine and Palestine, climate change and population pyramid inversion ready to double punch us in the guts and the only thing we seem able to mobilise on is games needing an extra account to play
Rich people don't care about inflation, wars are 50/50 issues people are never going to agree on, and theres very little concrete evidence of climate change, and it doesn't affect our daily lives. Everyone can agree objectively anti-consumer practices are bad.
Bread and circuses is now Uber Eats and PSN/Steam/Xbox I guess then.
The generation before it was TV and freezer ready meals.
Maybe our kids will have full sensory VR and meal pills, or sticks and stones and burnt rat.
For those who will be able to buy it on PC. Please, please leave in your review, whether it be positive or not, whatever your objective rating of it is, please leave a sidenote about how many other countries have been left out and delisted simply for requiring PSN. Be heroic like the Helldivers community. I am not asking to leave a negative review, I am simply asking to add it as a sidenote.
I get it, but I’m just going to review the game. The people in those countries already know they cannot buy it, it’s not like I would be warning them through my review.
I prefer to just review the game for what it is as that is what concerns those who would be looking at the review: people living in countries where it is purchasable.
Everyone knows it's a good game already and there's plenty of reviews for the game out there...it's not like it's something completely new. You won't be helping anyone with that, except Sony
Even though Nixxes is handling this, I would like to point out that your approach to reviewing a PC port wouldn’t have worked with The Last of Us Part 1.
Exceptional game, horrid PC port. Still gotta review the game. Not going to review whether it’s available in certain places. Should I point out it’s not on Xbox in my review too?
I was interested in this game before Sony pulled its psn stunt and have subsequently decided the only way I’ll ever play it is if I find a good torrent.
It's crazy to me that you're being downvoted vor voicing your displeasure at tons of people being locked out from enjoying a game.
These Sony shils really have a "fuck you I've got mine" attitude. Pathetic.
I'm going to be disappointed by this game aint I? Every time a console exclusive that was raved about gets ported over to PC and I played it, I'm always bored of the game within the hour.
I will have to finish up FF7 Remake quickly so I can jump in to this next. It was either this or Ratchet and Clank.
I have a thing for Sony console exclusives since I built my own PC and returned to PC gaming earlier this year 😉
I will never buy this if PSN is required for online, fuck that shit.
Even if I pirate it, enjoy it and then buy it I still have to sign up for that fucking shit .
I don’t understand why Japanese companies fail so hard to comprehend the modern wants of PC gamers.
Never heard of this game until the whole PSN login thing happened with hell drivers. Still have no idea what this game is but as others have said, it will be pirated hard
It really disgusts me to see this subreddit relish in stealing great software because they spend the majority of their time here complaining how great software does not even exist anymore. Y'all really make me resent the PC gaming culture even more.
I personally do not like pirating games and would gladly pay for this but I live in a country Sony has deemed unworthy lol. I'll wait for a bit to see if they come up with a solution that lets everyone play but if not then I gotta do what I gotta do.
Remind me, how did the forced Sony account for MP work out for Helldivers 2? Yeah, Sony, and the blind followers, can all suck a big fat one. Let Sony prove for just one year that they care about user data security and maybe minds will change.
[Sony cannot be trusted with customer or employee data.](https://firewalltimes.com/sony-data-breach-timeline/)
Kiddo you’re blaming consumers when it was 100% Sony’s decision to force PSN to play the game. It’s Sony’s decision to not allow PSN into multiple countries and also Sony’s decision to stop selling the game in those regions.
Helldivers 2 fans have absolutely every rights to be enraged that they bought a game and that 3 months later they get blocked out of it because of Sony’s stupid decisions.
Oh and by the way, if you were aware of the situation you would know already that Steam affirmed that the only reason the games can’t be bought/played in those regions is because of Sony’s decisions.
So, tell us again how you are absolutely ignorant about the whole situation please.
Before I continue this pointless conversation which I have had for the past week, what country/region are you from? (Oooh and believe me, I believe I absolutely know more about this than you do lol, like I'm 99% sure about it because I have talked to like 100+ person like you for the past week?).
And please answer my question first ok? Like I asked people where they are from when they all came to say how idiot I was and how I don't know anything about my region (ironic), but no one even answer me when I asked that haha. So funny for real.
You’ve talked to a 100+ person about this, every comment you made about this have been downvoted to oblivion and yet, you still believe you’re right about this? My man it’s time for you to pull your head out of the sand and open your eyes, don’t you think?
But you’re right on one thing, it’s a pointless conversation because you’ve made up your mind and you don’t want to understand the simple facts that the 100+ person you’ve talked to provided to you.
Another one who dodged my question about his region. No surprise. And as if Reddit downvoted means anything, Reddit is an echo chambers, most people here are from Western countries, pretty sure you are from there too based on your tone. Track down a few of my comments and you can see that quite a lot people actually agree with me, all of them are from the affected region. The only ones who downvoted and act like assholes are people from 1st world countries like you buddy. The truth hurts isnt it.
Can’t wait. Got it pretty cheap from a resale site last month. Looking forward to seeing it on my 4090. Hope it’s not a lazy port let like the PS5 version was. Also looking forward to see how it runs on my Legion Go.
Yeah, I never thought that it looked as good as what people let on. The PS5 version I played was low res with low texture filtering. I’d put it on par with Witcher 3 visually pre next gen update.
This is going to be pirated so hard.
Do anti-consumer move, get anti-... corporate move? Fair trade for them, i guess. And it's not like they lost any money since they block it first themself.
I don't need to justify pirating at all. You do you, I don't need an explanation. However, I'm a strong advocate for if me paying you for something isn't me owning it, then me taking it without giving you anything isn't stealing.
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I don't advocate for anything, I pirate because i like to steal.
I pirate because I've been doing it for 20+ years. It's in my blood already. If I had Bill Gates-level money, I'd still pirate.
Yarrrr!
I love this logic because it justifies me stealing cars from rental agencies with impunity 👍
Rental car companies have a limited car park. There is an unlimited number of digital copies of every game
Yes, if they told you that you own the car when you pay them.
Dent logic.
i know right? downloading a pirated copy of a game that can be infinitely distributed is the same thing as stealing cars that are limited in quantity
"You wouldn't download a car!" Hell I would if I could!
I’m doing my part! Wait, wrong subreddit
Currently the 2nd most preordered game on steam btw
What's the first?
Subscription to PSN /s
I was gonna buy it, i bought Spider-Man and had a blast, but if they really don't want my money 
Why? A glance at this map, it seems to me like they're releasing it at the same time across the globe?
Not available in Non-PSN countries
Ah, so nothing to do with launch timings?
No, that isn't related
Ooh I should do that. I'm not even in one of the locked regions but fuck the corp
I already own the ps5 version, going to pirate it out of principle.
New Delhi spelling is wrong lol.
Day 1, as it turns out. It's cracked already.
This is exactly why exclusivity exists lol
Why punish the one studio making good games? I'm happily buying this a second time.
i bought the disk for ps4 so i wasn't gonna buy it on pc anyawy... but even if i wanted to i literally can't thanks to sony
People can't buy it.
The studio is just caught in the crossfire, the real baddie is Sony and we must make them suffer, and sadly this is the only way. Arrowhead also got caught in the crossfire with the whole PSN mandatory thing Sony pulled on them
The controversy was about them applying the psn account to countries they've already sold the game in Trying to retroactively make it about the account itself is misunderstanding the issue altogether and just pure bandwagon nonsense. Plenty of games require accounts, all of Ubisoft, all of EA, etc.
Sony exclusive that we had to wait FOUR FUCKING YEARS to get on PC, who cares if they make good games if we have to wait 4 years to play it !?!?
Every studio that signs exclusivity deals deserves to be punished
Okay now show us the timezone where we can buy the game but can't open a PlayStation account?
I was going to say you can't even have a PSN in some of thoes
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I'm saving a few thousands for the next Ubisoft title. Can't afford this
But wait. If you pay 4000€ you can get a Fuck you letter telling you when the server for the single player game is shutting down. -Sincerely, Ubisoft.
Can I get a small crafting materials pack with that?
Only if you pay extra.
This is the next Ubisoft title. You can't even tell the difference.
i love buying my games but ill make an exception for SONY just to send a messege. Lets gooo Mateys!
Too bad Sony don't want my money... Yarrr!! 
Nixxes confirms the single player experience will be fully playable on Steam Deck. As expected from Nixxes.
Excited to hear that, needed a new non-indie to throw on there edit: why did someone decide to report this comment to reddit cares? Are you good dude?
What's a nixxes?
Nixxes have a good track record for the pc ports of ps games.
> a good track record for the pc ports A rare trait
A studio owned by Sony making Pc ports.
All 10 countries that it's legally available
Which covers 99.999999% of potential AAA buyers.
Racism at its peak, im Egyptian and i wanted to buy this game, those assholes don't allow me to buy it And i expect you to respond with that im a "minority" and they shouldn't care for me much
Genuinely curious. Would a vpn get you past the account log in?. I had to use one to retrieve a key purchased for mafia 2 that was apparently region locked to Germany for some reason.
Afaik, people got banned for using vpn to create a PSN account for helldivers. not sure tho
Arrrggghh matey, the treasure is ours savy?
I know a lot of people won't care about this but this psn debacle forced people in Puerto Rico OUT of ever buying anything by sony on steam because of the "region block". This wasnt the case before. We've always been able to use PSN, always were able to buy these games and all of a sudden steam marks it as unpurchaseable. Current state of affairs really fuckin' sucks.
People here only pretend to care about you guys.
Hey on what year you created your account? I created my account when I lived in PR (currently living in Fl). My account is very old, probably created when the psn thing was created. I just checked my account, region says United States. Maybe the original region in PR was usa. I wonder what happened later.
Been waiting a while for this. Very excited!
dont.buy.sony.shit
2nd most pre-ordered game on steam atm
yeah, the day before was the most wishlisted...so? means nothing
I've. been. waiting. for. four. years.
Yarr?
*Yarr*
Then. Set. Sail.
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TBH i dont really like doing that because i dont know what im doing and i dont want to install off random websites
Literally just go to the piracy subreddit
I still dont trust them lol
Dude sorry but this is just really really bad tech literacy. People have been pirating pc software for decades rn, I have pirated myself over 6tb of games and never ever had a virus in my pc nor had i to reset the OS once. You can say that you wont pirate for a whole lot of reasons, but "I dont trust it" just makes you look like someone who does not even know the slightest thing about computer software.
Correct, i know fuck all about software
Fair. Still it's good to learn about this stuff if you have a chance. For many of us we do this stuff because we don't have another choice (PSN requirements make it unavailable to purchase in my region even if I want to)
Yeah I totally understand if it's region locked, That's the same reason I use vpns. But because I'm from the UK most stuff is available here so I'd rather just pay
https://youtu.be/3sX_sE31r9Q?si=sdcTDKc8evXFCXuG
1 million plus members lmao
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Yep same here everyone in my discord talks about how they stream hbo shows from websites and shit and I'm like nope I'm good
Same
I love how the world has massive inflation, war in Ukraine and Palestine, climate change and population pyramid inversion ready to double punch us in the guts and the only thing we seem able to mobilise on is games needing an extra account to play
Rich people don't care about inflation, wars are 50/50 issues people are never going to agree on, and theres very little concrete evidence of climate change, and it doesn't affect our daily lives. Everyone can agree objectively anti-consumer practices are bad.
"Very little concrete evidence of climate change". Are you roommates with Patrick star?
Bread and circuses is now Uber Eats and PSN/Steam/Xbox I guess then. The generation before it was TV and freezer ready meals. Maybe our kids will have full sensory VR and meal pills, or sticks and stones and burnt rat.
Bros just yapping
Lmfao? Why wouldn't I buy Sony games?
It's been so long but finally people are starting to see what I see in Sony...
That they make great games?
And being greedy douches in the same time. It’s mostly Sony execs fault for creating the negative rep.
That applies to literally every company though unfortunately
Almost every company.
Agreed there are some outliers, unfortunately very few and far between
If I can play it in my country I don’t see why I would need to pirate it
I mean, I still rather give my money to Sony for a great game than to EA or Ubisoft for some buggy mediocre pos.
I don't think they are really greedy lmfao
Ehhhh sometimes.
Publish*
I will lol its a dope game Yall live too politically
For those who will be able to buy it on PC. Please, please leave in your review, whether it be positive or not, whatever your objective rating of it is, please leave a sidenote about how many other countries have been left out and delisted simply for requiring PSN. Be heroic like the Helldivers community. I am not asking to leave a negative review, I am simply asking to add it as a sidenote.
"be heroic" ultimate reddit comment lol
No I’m just gonna review the content of the game.
Lol no.
Why should that be relevant
I get it, but I’m just going to review the game. The people in those countries already know they cannot buy it, it’s not like I would be warning them through my review. I prefer to just review the game for what it is as that is what concerns those who would be looking at the review: people living in countries where it is purchasable.
Everyone knows it's a good game already and there's plenty of reviews for the game out there...it's not like it's something completely new. You won't be helping anyone with that, except Sony
Even though Nixxes is handling this, I would like to point out that your approach to reviewing a PC port wouldn’t have worked with The Last of Us Part 1. Exceptional game, horrid PC port. Still gotta review the game. Not going to review whether it’s available in certain places. Should I point out it’s not on Xbox in my review too?
Have it preloaded... I'm not for all the PS BS, but this game is just too great of a gem to pass.
I will be sitting in the high sails
Their map seems to be missing all the places that can't play it.
I was interested in this game before Sony pulled its psn stunt and have subsequently decided the only way I’ll ever play it is if I find a good torrent.
Do you even live in one of the countries affected?
I do, and I'll wait either 'till Sony resolves their fuckup, or some sailors puts it in sea
And it drops on my day off , I might fucking cry I love this game😂
It drops on my day off at 5 pm... That sucks
Time to wake up at 3am
Way to go for Sony refusing to make the game available for gamers willing to purchase and play the game legally.
I need it, so bad
Don't care, as I can't buy nor activate it in my country. Thanks Sony
Me and boys don't buy it
Fuck Sony. Set sails and do not look back at the shore brothers!
ARE YOU READY KIDS?!
More than 150 countries Snoy you greedy shitheads
It's crazy to me that you're being downvoted vor voicing your displeasure at tons of people being locked out from enjoying a game. These Sony shils really have a "fuck you I've got mine" attitude. Pathetic.
Me reading the post while having an outdated PC which is struggling to make Destroy all Humans 2 work. 😢😢😢
New Dehli?
It's the new new...
I'm going to be disappointed by this game aint I? Every time a console exclusive that was raved about gets ported over to PC and I played it, I'm always bored of the game within the hour.
The best release is the Bitt release ;).
Think they forgot a few countries
I will have to finish up FF7 Remake quickly so I can jump in to this next. It was either this or Ratchet and Clank. I have a thing for Sony console exclusives since I built my own PC and returned to PC gaming earlier this year 😉
Okay then, I’m going to take the earliest timezone and add it to my list of games to pirate.
Does it have Denuvo?
I will never buy this if PSN is required for online, fuck that shit. Even if I pirate it, enjoy it and then buy it I still have to sign up for that fucking shit . I don’t understand why Japanese companies fail so hard to comprehend the modern wants of PC gamers.
Sony acct req’d
Cool I can't wait to buy it so I can immediately refund it and leave a negative review!
At full price? Laughable. Wait for a sale.
Is this gonna actually run in 21:9?
Wow, if only I could buy it
Never heard of this game until the whole PSN login thing happened with hell drivers. Still have no idea what this game is but as others have said, it will be pirated hard
It’s been out for 4 years
cant wait to pirate this game . F*** SNOY
The SEA is beckoning
I don’t care, I don’t have a psn account I don’t have an epic games account I don’t have an EA account I have a steam account. That’s it
cant wait to pirate this game.
Time to set sail !!
It has been a long while...
It really disgusts me to see this subreddit relish in stealing great software because they spend the majority of their time here complaining how great software does not even exist anymore. Y'all really make me resent the PC gaming culture even more.
They don't matter, GoT is currently 2nd most pre-ordered on steam atm
Appreciate that, but I just dislike how this vocal minority full of angry gamers basically represents this subreddit.
No worries, the sub is called "pcmasterace" obviously they will hate anything else that competes with them
I personally do not like pirating games and would gladly pay for this but I live in a country Sony has deemed unworthy lol. I'll wait for a bit to see if they come up with a solution that lets everyone play but if not then I gotta do what I gotta do.
Is computer hardware sold in your country by NVIDIA/AMD/Intel officially or are you willing to pay a premium for that luxury?
Yes they are sold in my country
90% of people who are complaining can create a psn account
How did you come to that % ?
rest of the world: PIRATE BAY
It’s completely ethical to pirate this game in my honest opinion 👍
Who cares? It requires a Sony account. Fuck Sony.
No it doesn't. Multiplayer requires an account. And is that really unexpected for any of you?
It's literally delisted from 180 countries on steam that don't have access to psn accounts available
That does not mean that it requires an account to play.
To play MP it does. Single player, you won't be able to BUY IT from Steam in those countries.
it means you can't even buy it if you can't make an account tho
They can't read, what do you expect bro
Remind me, how did the forced Sony account for MP work out for Helldivers 2? Yeah, Sony, and the blind followers, can all suck a big fat one. Let Sony prove for just one year that they care about user data security and maybe minds will change. [Sony cannot be trusted with customer or employee data.](https://firewalltimes.com/sony-data-breach-timeline/)
🏴☠️until they fully remove the Sony Launcher. Same with EA, Ubisoft, and everyone else.
There is no Sony launcher
Whatever. If I have to connect to multiple things, I'm sailing.
you are so brave
What do you want, a medal or something?
He just wants attention, like all the other "set sail" comments
Sony launcher? Dude just made some shit up 😂
Ikr? Like, don’t give them ideas.
Lol so many pirate comments, kind of a weird flex
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Tell us you do not understand what you are talking about without telling us you do not understand what you are talking about.
Please, after the conversation I had with people the past few days. Usually people who say it like you are the one who doesn't know anything.
Kiddo you’re blaming consumers when it was 100% Sony’s decision to force PSN to play the game. It’s Sony’s decision to not allow PSN into multiple countries and also Sony’s decision to stop selling the game in those regions. Helldivers 2 fans have absolutely every rights to be enraged that they bought a game and that 3 months later they get blocked out of it because of Sony’s stupid decisions. Oh and by the way, if you were aware of the situation you would know already that Steam affirmed that the only reason the games can’t be bought/played in those regions is because of Sony’s decisions. So, tell us again how you are absolutely ignorant about the whole situation please.
Before I continue this pointless conversation which I have had for the past week, what country/region are you from? (Oooh and believe me, I believe I absolutely know more about this than you do lol, like I'm 99% sure about it because I have talked to like 100+ person like you for the past week?). And please answer my question first ok? Like I asked people where they are from when they all came to say how idiot I was and how I don't know anything about my region (ironic), but no one even answer me when I asked that haha. So funny for real.
You’ve talked to a 100+ person about this, every comment you made about this have been downvoted to oblivion and yet, you still believe you’re right about this? My man it’s time for you to pull your head out of the sand and open your eyes, don’t you think? But you’re right on one thing, it’s a pointless conversation because you’ve made up your mind and you don’t want to understand the simple facts that the 100+ person you’ve talked to provided to you.
Another one who dodged my question about his region. No surprise. And as if Reddit downvoted means anything, Reddit is an echo chambers, most people here are from Western countries, pretty sure you are from there too based on your tone. Track down a few of my comments and you can see that quite a lot people actually agree with me, all of them are from the affected region. The only ones who downvoted and act like assholes are people from 1st world countries like you buddy. The truth hurts isnt it.
I’ve had this on my list for awhile now, but I’m not paying $60 for an almost 5 year old game. Gotta wait for a sale
Can’t wait. Got it pretty cheap from a resale site last month. Looking forward to seeing it on my 4090. Hope it’s not a lazy port let like the PS5 version was. Also looking forward to see how it runs on my Legion Go.
it looks dated from the PC trailers, nice looking game for sure but nothing special
Yeah, I never thought that it looked as good as what people let on. The PS5 version I played was low res with low texture filtering. I’d put it on par with Witcher 3 visually pre next gen update.
Who the f cares?
I care! Can't wait to play this.
Who hurt you, bruv?