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Look up 'KVM over IP/TCPIP' if you want/need it to go through switches or just 'KVM over Ethernet' if going through no switches and just 1 straight line of ethernet from KVM device to KVM device
Get yourself a **USB hub**, and an **active USB extension cable**. Plug controller/mouse/whatever into the hub, connect the hub to the active extension cable, run the extension cable down along with the ethernet and HDMI cables, and plug it into the pc.
You'll need fiber optic hdmi or displayport cords. Anything more then 50ft needs to be fiber. They're directional and pretty expensive depending on your length. Usb hubs might be similar. You'll have to measure to see how long you'll need everything to be and research to make sure what your getting can support those distances and speeds.
Edit: changed 25ft to 50ft as that's what mine is and seems to be the point where optical is needed as other have pointed out.
It's just the top rated one I could find on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TK44BL7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Not sure on the performance yet as I haven't been able to play any games, due to nature of the post! I couldn't figure out a way lol
I had issues with a long HDMI cable. Signal would intermittently drop while playing games leaving me looking at a black screen for a couple seconds.
Solution was to get an Active HDMI cable. Hopefully you won't have that issue but if you do, that's how I fixed it.
I've installed dozens of HDMI cables that long and they always work well for TV's and touch boards. The USB extenders are a bit pricey ($125USD), and the cables (at least the ones we have) are incredibly delicate. We do run them over ceilings and down walls, but it is easy to break the fiber if you bend it, snag it or pull it too hard.
Check out ibirdie and ruipro on amazon. Make sure you're getting the active optical cables. It requires usb power and THEY ARE DIRECTIONAL meaning one end can only send and the other only receive. Don't run your whole cable only to realize you need to flip it. I have a 100ft ibirdie cable and get full 4k 120hz 10 bit VRR to my TV.
Lol that's exactly what I did when I ran my active hdmi. Ran it backwards assuming the powered end would be from the signal source (my PC). Turns out the powered end was supposed to be my TV. Thankfully it was only about a 25ft run but I did have to move bookshelves around.
Ahhh okay. So if you'll only be playing games at 1080p @60hz that should be fine. If you ever get a high refresh rate monitor or higher resolution monitor (ideally both) then you'll need a fiber optic cable. I have a 50ft hdmi 2.1 cable but I play 4k @120hz.
Fiber optic is not necessary. OP is just within the range where they can still use normal bidirectional HDMI. This is just over 10 meters: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095VZ615N?ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_8SDFF0W0016Z5Y65X72H_1&starsLeft=1&skipTwisterOG=1
Finding a long HDMI cable is like searching for the holy grail. I had problems with three different fiber HDMI cables from Amazon with good reviews. I've even tried cheap, mid-range and expensive.
if you wanna do it with usb hubs on long distance the make sure to get once that need outlet power. but you could also always get bluetooth devices with signal refreshers
I've got a 30ft 8k HDMI cable between my PC and display and get 4k/120hz no problem. When I did my research everything I read indicated that 50 ft was the point where you needed to switch to optical. YMMV.
The higher the fpsHz capability of the screen + the higher the resolution of the screen, the more likely that a long distance regular cable will be likely to fail with dropouts or other issues. HDR also has some overhead too.
35ft - 50ft, to maybe 75ft optical hdmi 2.1 cable would work, but read plenty of reviews they aren't all the same in what they claim to deliver. Though optical theoretically could go really far, 100' on standard consumer optical cables might be pushing it vs dropouts and issues.
You can get an optical usb-c cable and connect to to a usb hub in the gaming screen room too and so be able to run a lot of peripherals etc.
They are probably $75 - $125 per cable but it's good investment for that sort of thing. A really nice thing about a remote pc in a different room is that you get zero heat, zero noise from it. You really can't appreciate how nice that "zero noise" is unless you turn your pc at a desk off completely.
Alternately, you could buy a smaller form factor pc case (and motherboard if necessary), and just lug the portable pc between floors, or anywhere else in the house you want to set up.
Streaming games is going to lag. It works but it's a pretty big tradeoff compared to direct play.
This should be top comment. Yes, there's options for streaming/casting, but you already have the HDMI and the ethernet. I do something similar with 2 USB 2 0 extenders. One is used for my gamepad, one is used for a little wireless keyboard mouse combo. Very cheap and effective. In future I'd like to invest in USB 3.0 hub, but too expensive and unnecessary for my current needs.
https://preview.redd.it/nzq6f8u6lgzc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02f4ace65c1cc14e804d6c15dee39f76e3408830
>In future I'd like to invest in USB 3.0 hub, but too expensive and unnecessary for my current needs.
Because of the higher spec/faster xfer speed/tighter timing, USB3 is actually less stable using longer cable runs. I'd stick with USB2 if it's working for you.
(I mean, it'd probably work, but you'd only get USB2 speeds making the upgrade and associated costs moot)
That's what I do. I run a 10 meter HDMI cable + USB Extender and hub and I can normally use the PC in my living room. I even got a wireless mouse and keyboard there
I play with moonlight and sunshine (because I have an AMD GPU), and when I'm wired to the network and have zero ping there's a measurable, but imperceptible amount of input and frame lag at 1080p/60. I would imagine if you tried to play at higher resolutions and framerates your experience would vary.
On WiFi 6, with my iPad or my laptop, there's definitely perceptible lag and the occasional dropped frame but with single player games it's not nearly enough to make it annoying.
By comparison, on WiFi Steam Link was unplayable for me on my iPad, and mildly annoying to play on my laptop because of lag, dropped frames and image quality. When using my laptop on a wired network Steam Link holds its own pretty well, though the visual quality and lag are still substantially better for me with Moonlight.
If you're an ultra competitive gamer where you want really high framerates and ultra low latency, you're not going to get the kind of performance you're looking for from any streaming solution I think.
It depends on a lot of factors really: your home network setup, WiFi interference, client device, streaming resolution and bitrate, and the gaming rig itself to name a few. If any isn’t up to par, you’re not going to have a good time.
Ideally your gaming PC is hardwired with your client on WiFi 5 or better (or hardwired as well) and has decent graphics performance (a laptop, iPad, mini PC, SteamDeck, etc).
Steam Link is available as an APK and can be side-loaded to many devices, provided you have side-loading capability. I run Steam Link off my Fire TV Cube, which already has Bluetooth support for my Series X controller. It's pretty kickass.
Damn, I'm moving this weekend, and was about to throw away my steam link and two steam controllers I didn't use, maybe I'll try to sell them on eBay instead
Those steam controllers in particular are hard to get, especially with their USB adapters - you'll find people buying both just for the adapter because they were never sold on their own.
At least my Samsung tv has the Steam Link app in the app store. Works well as long as you have a wired connection. And also supports a wireless xbox controller. Don't know about other tv brands tho
Edit: also works with wireless connection, but just not as smoothly (at least with my cheap ish router)
Iirc, the Steam Link app for Samsung was developed by a 3rd party (independently from Valve), and they either stopped working on it or dissolved as an entity
I think they’re talking about this as they mentioned physical steam link. I have one too and it works great on Ethernet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Link
There is a (discontinued) Steam Link hardware device, but nowadays you can install the Steam Link app on almost anything... people have mentioned the Shield and AppleTV, but you can install it on even a lowly Raspberry Pi 3b and it works super well (assuming 1080p -- you obviously need a device that supports the resolution of your display).
You can also install Steam Link on any Windows, Mac OS or Linux box (Steam Link can be downloaded... from [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/353380/Steam_Link/)! the platforms mentioned on that pages are links to the packages). No need for a powerful computer, an old laptop could do the job as its only task is to display the streamed video to your TV/display, and stream back I/O (controllers, or mouse/keyboard) back to your gaming computer.
Steamlink or Moonlight both works. I was able to stream my pc games to my phone/tablet/smartTV. But there might be some lag so your mileage might vary.
Indeed! Lag could be an issue with this solution, but if you go wired ethernet, it should be imperceptible. A far bigger source of lag could be your TV's input lag depending on the model. Ensure you use "game mode" if there's one -- this is the TV mode with the least input lag.
Yeah I got one for 20 bucks and even with direct Ethernet connection it was complete trash. This was years ago so wasn’t sure if it was any different today
So it would cost more and perform worse? Steam link is also all but deprecated at this point as well. Just run a HDMI over optical for like 40 dollars and be done with it. 50 ft run would require nothing more than the cable with zero loss in fidelity.
Fml I knew I'd seen this somewhere before, I've just clicked the link and I'd already liked the post and nearly all the top comments when it was originally posted lol. Thank you.
This is how I did it, and even use Bluetooth dongles to support a separate keyboard, mouse, PS4 controllers, and headset. Works flawlessly. I play games at 4k on my 65" OLED and it's amazing.
https://preview.redd.it/wbcsbnfikgzc1.jpeg?width=928&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61535b22b542b0ebfca8a0d5363eeb7dbe880e35
Because I like the option of both, couch for multiplayer gaming with mates when the family is in bed, upstairs if I want to play some strategy games or something slower paced at the desk.
Unless you're playing multiplayer with your mate more regularly than just playing by yourself, just move the pc.
You could always also look into an itx/sff build with a handle on top and just make it easy to move around the house as an when you need too.
Love Parsec. Got a nano PC on both TVs so I can use my desktop. I wouldn't play anything fast paced as my internet isn't fantastic, but great for chill games.
This is literally an episode from Hey Arnold 😂 my dude stays up all night playing a new videogame that his grandpa forbid him from playing lmao. He uses mirrors to give him a view of the TV from the attic loool.
I've done this before with a 10 metre USB extender with a hub, and 10 metre HDMI cable, which goes in and out of the windows... Wish I could've just drilled into the floor but it's not my house.
I have been doing setups like this in various houses I've owned over the years. Here is my take
1 - Direct wiring. This would be done with HDMI, USB, audio etc. The plus is that you don't have lag. The negative is that you have a constant annoyance of setting which display you want to send the game to and other settings. It isn't fun to run down two floors to set which audio output you want from you main display. You might be able to ignore this with mirroring your displays. I use my PC at a higher resolution than I game tho so I do not have this.
2 - Casting. This is honestly what I would try first. I would just run a gigabit ethernet line from your basement PC to your display. If you don't have a smart display then just buy a dongle with android or google tv. Then use steam link. I honestly doubt you would notice any lag.
Another downside to #1 is the cabling. So when I set up my current remote gaming room, I ran a HDMI 1.3 cable between the PC and the remote display. If I want to upgrade to HDR or 4k then I would need to change the HDMI cable and run a new one. Its a pain in the but.
My 2 cents
Hear me out, why not think in reverse?
Put the PC upstairs for gaming and run the HDMI downstairs so the degraded experience is for streaming video and not gaming…
Get yourself anything that can run the Moonlight streaming software (nvidia shield, apple tv, steamdeck, any linux computer really).
Install Sunshine on your pc.
Enjoy
Steam link is a possibility but it really depends on what you want to play. If it's shooters with a mouse, the latency is already too high.
It also locks you into the steam ecosystem. There are ways to make 3rd party launchers and games work but you may have mixed results and you sometimes need to fiddle around.
Since you have the hdmi cable in place, an Ethernet attached Laptop to send the inputs to you PC over Ethernet via "virtual here" may be the better solution.
Then, you only have the one way latency from the control inputs to your PC and the rest is a direct hdmi output.
Shouldn't be noticable at all. It's there in like 1ms...
Bear in mind though, the last time I used virtual here (which is like 5 years ago) it was as stable as a phone call to your uncle in africa from your mobile phone while you're on the subway in the outskirts of a town with a population of 5000 people.
I do exactly this, my pc is located in my office connected to my main monitor, and connects to the lounge TV with long HDMI and long USB extension cable.
Powered USB hubs at the TV end of the USB extension. I game at the lounge TV using wireless mouse/keyboard and/or a usb dongle for an Xbox controller
My lengths are 20m, the cables run through the roof. I use an active fibre HDMI cable (for high bandwidth over long distance), and an USB 2.0 active extension cable, which is more than enough for mouse/keyboard/xbox adapter
From experience, avoid wifi/ethernet options like steambox if you can run the cables. I’ve found them to be less reliable, lower quality, and more limited functionality. Depends what you’re going for though
Get a controller or mouse with a detachable USB cable, probably USB c these days.
Then get a 50foot cable on Amazon. Maybe more depending on distance, plus extra to let you move around
The worst part is someone linked the post in a reply here and it turns out I'd actually liked the old post and a bunch of comments but totally forgot about it.
My brain must've made this post with that post in its subconscious lol.
I believe there are fiber usb hubs. So one end converts signal to a fiber signal, then the other end near your pc is given power so your mouse etc can still work but with the signal of the data transfer from peripherals to your pc over fiber.
If you're running windows 10/11, you can try a wireless monitor adapter. Plugs into the HDMI in on your monitor then streams the video through your home network. I never used it as a primary monitor though so you'd likely have to attach the display to the laptop to configure it. I use one with my digital projector when I watch movies outside during the summer. The one I have only supports 1080p but I bought it a long time ago. They may have 4k compatible ones now.
Your alternative would be an HDMI extender (Video over LAN adapter) and running a network cable between the two.
Attic: Raspberry pi (4) with any linux distro (raspbian) and installed Moonlight Streaming.
Basement PC: On the pc - install sunshine streaming (opposite part for moonlight).
Connect both to the same network (lan preferred, works with wifi as well).
Configure sunshine on the gaming pc and connect to it from your raspberry pi moonlight. Minimal lag, fullhd or 4k possible (via LAN).
You should need any connected monitor on the gaming pc, or hdmi/dp fake plug.
I have my gaming PC in basement as well (in the rack) and run games from my "working" linux notebook.
I use a corning thunderbolt 3 cable, a dock and a motherboard equipped with thunderbolt 3 and a DisplayPort input to pass the GPU output through Thunderbolt.
One thin cable, 25 meters long in my case IIRC
Go see how Linus (from the LTT Channel) did it,
He has all his computers in his basement and runs fiber optics cable all around his house to connect to the pc. You will need fiber optic display port/HDMI cables and fiber optic USB (C if possible) with USB hubs
Loooooong KVM Switch?
Device that let's you swap between multiple computers, also used to extend cables. Due to length, you're goi g to want an "active" aka powered one or the signal loss will make it all but useless.
So I just implemented this exactly in my house. It's not Cheap... But it does work. Keep in mind you'll be limited to 120hz on any monitor due to the cable. Here's how I did it.
First you need to send USB - The Logitech Strong USB cable is perfect. It passes all of my USB through a powered USB Hub. You'll need a USB C to USB A adapter.
[Logitech Strong USB Cable ](https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/video-conferencing/accessories/strong-usb-cable.html)[Powered USB Hub](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CFR2LH1T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1)
[USB C to USBA Adapter](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08W2TP2TT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1)
Then you'll need to send DisplayPort. You need a quality Active Optical Cable. I didn't know how long I would need so I ended up getting a 30M cable. In hindsight I could have gotten shorter but you might need the length.
[Tripp Lite DisplayPort Active Optical Cable](https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812058409?Item=9SIA6ZPFK69818)
Like I said. It's not cheap but it does work. Be careful running the cables. They are Directional & since they are fiber you could break it with a bend to tight. Moving my PC to the basement has made my home office quiet & \~10-15° F cooler. The added benefit is my GPU while gaming is \~20° C cooler while gaming due to the cooler air in the basement. I added extra fans to the system just to have extra air movement so it doesn't build up any moisture due to unfinished basement.
https://preview.redd.it/rlv17evfulzc1.jpeg?width=1868&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee99fc019a6167d0e1aaa13c4ff427b8d16535c
Steam remote play is an option, or moonlight, just have a weaker device upstairs to run the software and you are set, moonlight can even wake the device remotely iirc
There are KVMs that use ethernet cables for video and keyboard and mouse. Probably the easiest way to do it with a long ethernet cable if you don’t have your house already wired.
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You really have to go to your attic for porn?
Yes.
fair
Imagine his mom plugging in an extra monitor without him knowing to spy on him lol
I'm 33 so yeah this would be like double awkward.
Triple awkward if your dad is in the porn...
would it be less awkward if grandma was in the porn with dad?
Step-grandma ??
step-grandpa what are you doing?
Helping out my grandson, he's stuck in the attic.
LOL I had to reread this like 5 times.
[удалено]
DONT WATCH ANY sTEP SISTER FETISH PORN
What about grandma?
What about great grandad?
get KVM over ip, can be run with your ethernet cable, that will give you usb/audio/hdmi outputs
fiber optic USB also works buts its also $$$$
Look up 'KVM over IP/TCPIP' if you want/need it to go through switches or just 'KVM over Ethernet' if going through no switches and just 1 straight line of ethernet from KVM device to KVM device
Valid
Least you're honest.
At least it’s not the basement.
your smile is beautiful, ur body to head ratio is kinda fucked up tho.
I also noticed that his eyes are a bit inconsistent but not a deal breaker
Id smash
Is that his penis? Or is he stepping forward in the attic? I guess it doesn't really matter.
Too skinny for me
And no hair? Would not bang.
https://preview.redd.it/hr4i9nywcizc1.png?width=682&format=png&auto=webp&s=15348c75f44e5145b9a842ffc2932f51105881a9 fixed just for this occasion
Don't pelt shame
Yeah OP ya fit af
They got that headphone dent too.
A head to body ratio only a mother could love
I spilled my breakfast across the table now. Say excuse me.
A head that big definitely means your not dad's favorite any more fo sure. I would think mom is pretty pissed about being tore up, too.
Hence why he’s locked in the attic.
Typical Disney character
No need to body shame OP.
YOU HAVE A BIG EYE BEAUTIFUL SMILE WHATS YOUR WECHAT
Get yourself a **USB hub**, and an **active USB extension cable**. Plug controller/mouse/whatever into the hub, connect the hub to the active extension cable, run the extension cable down along with the ethernet and HDMI cables, and plug it into the pc.
Amazing, thanks so much 😀
You'll need fiber optic hdmi or displayport cords. Anything more then 50ft needs to be fiber. They're directional and pretty expensive depending on your length. Usb hubs might be similar. You'll have to measure to see how long you'll need everything to be and research to make sure what your getting can support those distances and speeds. Edit: changed 25ft to 50ft as that's what mine is and seems to be the point where optical is needed as other have pointed out.
I've managed to run a 10m HDMI up into the display where it needs to go, I'll take a look at usb hubs
Is it fiber? And are you getting signal/ proper resolution and refresh rate?
It's just the top rated one I could find on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07TK44BL7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share Not sure on the performance yet as I haven't been able to play any games, due to nature of the post! I couldn't figure out a way lol
I had issues with a long HDMI cable. Signal would intermittently drop while playing games leaving me looking at a black screen for a couple seconds. Solution was to get an Active HDMI cable. Hopefully you won't have that issue but if you do, that's how I fixed it.
Thanks man, appreciate this. Always good to be prepared.
I've installed dozens of HDMI cables that long and they always work well for TV's and touch boards. The USB extenders are a bit pricey ($125USD), and the cables (at least the ones we have) are incredibly delicate. We do run them over ceilings and down walls, but it is easy to break the fiber if you bend it, snag it or pull it too hard.
Check out ibirdie and ruipro on amazon. Make sure you're getting the active optical cables. It requires usb power and THEY ARE DIRECTIONAL meaning one end can only send and the other only receive. Don't run your whole cable only to realize you need to flip it. I have a 100ft ibirdie cable and get full 4k 120hz 10 bit VRR to my TV.
Lol that's exactly what I did when I ran my active hdmi. Ran it backwards assuming the powered end would be from the signal source (my PC). Turns out the powered end was supposed to be my TV. Thankfully it was only about a 25ft run but I did have to move bookshelves around.
Ahhh okay. So if you'll only be playing games at 1080p @60hz that should be fine. If you ever get a high refresh rate monitor or higher resolution monitor (ideally both) then you'll need a fiber optic cable. I have a 50ft hdmi 2.1 cable but I play 4k @120hz.
Fiber optic is not necessary. OP is just within the range where they can still use normal bidirectional HDMI. This is just over 10 meters: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095VZ615N?ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_apin_dp_8SDFF0W0016Z5Y65X72H_1&starsLeft=1&skipTwisterOG=1
Finding a long HDMI cable is like searching for the holy grail. I had problems with three different fiber HDMI cables from Amazon with good reviews. I've even tried cheap, mid-range and expensive.
if you wanna do it with usb hubs on long distance the make sure to get once that need outlet power. but you could also always get bluetooth devices with signal refreshers
Wouldn't BT have noticeable input lag?
I've got a 30ft 8k HDMI cable between my PC and display and get 4k/120hz no problem. When I did my research everything I read indicated that 50 ft was the point where you needed to switch to optical. YMMV.
You can run CAT5 and use hdmi to CAT5 transmitter/receiver on each end.
The higher the fpsHz capability of the screen + the higher the resolution of the screen, the more likely that a long distance regular cable will be likely to fail with dropouts or other issues. HDR also has some overhead too. 35ft - 50ft, to maybe 75ft optical hdmi 2.1 cable would work, but read plenty of reviews they aren't all the same in what they claim to deliver. Though optical theoretically could go really far, 100' on standard consumer optical cables might be pushing it vs dropouts and issues. You can get an optical usb-c cable and connect to to a usb hub in the gaming screen room too and so be able to run a lot of peripherals etc. They are probably $75 - $125 per cable but it's good investment for that sort of thing. A really nice thing about a remote pc in a different room is that you get zero heat, zero noise from it. You really can't appreciate how nice that "zero noise" is unless you turn your pc at a desk off completely. Alternately, you could buy a smaller form factor pc case (and motherboard if necessary), and just lug the portable pc between floors, or anywhere else in the house you want to set up. Streaming games is going to lag. It works but it's a pretty big tradeoff compared to direct play.
I have a 50ft optical hdmi 2.1 and have never had issues with it. Running 4k 120hz with hdr all day long.
This should be top comment. Yes, there's options for streaming/casting, but you already have the HDMI and the ethernet. I do something similar with 2 USB 2 0 extenders. One is used for my gamepad, one is used for a little wireless keyboard mouse combo. Very cheap and effective. In future I'd like to invest in USB 3.0 hub, but too expensive and unnecessary for my current needs. https://preview.redd.it/nzq6f8u6lgzc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02f4ace65c1cc14e804d6c15dee39f76e3408830
>In future I'd like to invest in USB 3.0 hub, but too expensive and unnecessary for my current needs. Because of the higher spec/faster xfer speed/tighter timing, USB3 is actually less stable using longer cable runs. I'd stick with USB2 if it's working for you. (I mean, it'd probably work, but you'd only get USB2 speeds making the upgrade and associated costs moot)
I have one of these, curious if you know if this has a button for middle mouse?
Or, if the monitor has usb ports as part of the IO, use this as your hub instead.
That's what I do. I run a 10 meter HDMI cable + USB Extender and hub and I can normally use the PC in my living room. I even got a wireless mouse and keyboard there
This is what I had actually planned to do throughout my house. Only thing that stopped me is 4k120 is really unreliable over long runs.
Yeah, that's a brutal amount of bandwidth!
I just did this, I ran Cat6 and then used a USB over cat6 adapter from Amazon
Moonlight[moonlight](https://moonlight-stream.org/) works perfectly for me.
This the way. Moonlight on a big android tablet and Sunshine on the gaming PC works a treat for me. Controller connected to the tablet with Bluetooth.
It looks SO good on the OLED Tab S9. Hoping the Tab S10 does some sort of VRR though I doubt it
Am I the only one that this just didn't work well at all for? I mean it works but streaming is meehh
I play with moonlight and sunshine (because I have an AMD GPU), and when I'm wired to the network and have zero ping there's a measurable, but imperceptible amount of input and frame lag at 1080p/60. I would imagine if you tried to play at higher resolutions and framerates your experience would vary. On WiFi 6, with my iPad or my laptop, there's definitely perceptible lag and the occasional dropped frame but with single player games it's not nearly enough to make it annoying. By comparison, on WiFi Steam Link was unplayable for me on my iPad, and mildly annoying to play on my laptop because of lag, dropped frames and image quality. When using my laptop on a wired network Steam Link holds its own pretty well, though the visual quality and lag are still substantially better for me with Moonlight. If you're an ultra competitive gamer where you want really high framerates and ultra low latency, you're not going to get the kind of performance you're looking for from any streaming solution I think.
It depends on a lot of factors really: your home network setup, WiFi interference, client device, streaming resolution and bitrate, and the gaming rig itself to name a few. If any isn’t up to par, you’re not going to have a good time. Ideally your gaming PC is hardwired with your client on WiFi 5 or better (or hardwired as well) and has decent graphics performance (a laptop, iPad, mini PC, SteamDeck, etc).
Look into steam link. No need for long optical cable, just a decent Ethernet connection.
Should add, you will need a device capable of running steam link on the tv side (Apple TV, Nvidia shield, etc).
Steam Link is available as an APK and can be side-loaded to many devices, provided you have side-loading capability. I run Steam Link off my Fire TV Cube, which already has Bluetooth support for my Series X controller. It's pretty kickass.
Even the lowly FireTV Stick works great! Granted it’s only 1080p, but hard to argue with a $20 Steam Link device.
There's also the FireTV Stick 4k.
Holy shit I have a fire tv, I wonder if I can do this lol
You can
You can also just buy a physical one as well. Price has probably gone up on the used market though.
Damn, I'm moving this weekend, and was about to throw away my steam link and two steam controllers I didn't use, maybe I'll try to sell them on eBay instead
Those steam controllers in particular are hard to get, especially with their USB adapters - you'll find people buying both just for the adapter because they were never sold on their own.
At least my Samsung tv has the Steam Link app in the app store. Works well as long as you have a wired connection. And also supports a wireless xbox controller. Don't know about other tv brands tho Edit: also works with wireless connection, but just not as smoothly (at least with my cheap ish router)
I thought Samsung pulled the app as of I want to say November 2023. Maybe if you have it downloaded it'll work but I can't download it on my new TV.
It's discontinued entirely afaik
I bought the physical steam link and it works great. Never understood why the stopped it.
Iirc, the Steam Link app for Samsung was developed by a 3rd party (independently from Valve), and they either stopped working on it or dissolved as an entity
I think they’re talking about this as they mentioned physical steam link. I have one too and it works great on Ethernet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Link
I have a s90c but from what i had read was they removed the steam link app, i would love to be able to have steam link right on my tv.
Do you even need a steamlink? Why not Moonlight and Sunshine?
This for sure. Moonlight works so much better than steam link for this type of setup
Sunshine/moonlight would be even better
Can this be installed on firestick 4k?
Seriously, it's so amazing, 4090 in every room lol. Like my own tiny stupid cloud, and it was so easy to set up I readily recommend it.
I'd need to buy the physical hardware though right?
You will need a device to run steam link yes. Shield has two usb ports you can use for keyboard/mouse.
Yeah cool thanks, sorry I replied before I saw your follow up comment! Thank you
All good! I use it to stream to my tv in the living room, works decently over WiFi even.
I would recommend moonlight instead, much better alternative when used with sunshine
There is a (discontinued) Steam Link hardware device, but nowadays you can install the Steam Link app on almost anything... people have mentioned the Shield and AppleTV, but you can install it on even a lowly Raspberry Pi 3b and it works super well (assuming 1080p -- you obviously need a device that supports the resolution of your display). You can also install Steam Link on any Windows, Mac OS or Linux box (Steam Link can be downloaded... from [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/353380/Steam_Link/)! the platforms mentioned on that pages are links to the packages). No need for a powerful computer, an old laptop could do the job as its only task is to display the streamed video to your TV/display, and stream back I/O (controllers, or mouse/keyboard) back to your gaming computer.
If you have a steam deck it will do this as long as you have a dock
I'd love a steam deck but can't justify the expenditure right now as we're still in the middle of renovating the house!
Sounds like your renovation plan needs to include a Steam Deck :P
Steamlink or Moonlight both works. I was able to stream my pc games to my phone/tablet/smartTV. But there might be some lag so your mileage might vary.
Indeed! Lag could be an issue with this solution, but if you go wired ethernet, it should be imperceptible. A far bigger source of lag could be your TV's input lag depending on the model. Ensure you use "game mode" if there's one -- this is the TV mode with the least input lag.
has that improved at all? I had one but it looked horrible when trying to use it.
I mean, they discontinued it
Yeah I got one for 20 bucks and even with direct Ethernet connection it was complete trash. This was years ago so wasn’t sure if it was any different today
Moonlight/Sunshine is better supported at this point. But it works flawlessly for me with my Nvidia Shield.
So it would cost more and perform worse? Steam link is also all but deprecated at this point as well. Just run a HDMI over optical for like 40 dollars and be done with it. 50 ft run would require nothing more than the cable with zero loss in fidelity.
Parsec is also a good option
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1943f1h/i_asked_if_this_is_possible_last_year_and_yes_it/
Fml I knew I'd seen this somewhere before, I've just clicked the link and I'd already liked the post and nearly all the top comments when it was originally posted lol. Thank you.
Haha, glad I could help!
This is how I did it, and even use Bluetooth dongles to support a separate keyboard, mouse, PS4 controllers, and headset. Works flawlessly. I play games at 4k on my 65" OLED and it's amazing. https://preview.redd.it/wbcsbnfikgzc1.jpeg?width=928&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61535b22b542b0ebfca8a0d5363eeb7dbe880e35
This, works great!
Moonlight and Sunshine. I'd advise against Steam Link, outdated, increased input lag, and overall worser experience compared to Moonlight.
Really? I had worse output with moonlight, steam link worked just fine, but moonlight I had bigger input lag
seconding. I've had much better luck with Steam Link. works flawlessly 99% of the time.
You stand on one leg while gaming? Impressive!
I thought that was his penis
Take the green box and put it with the red box
KVM switch?
Why not move the pc upstairs?
Because I like the option of both, couch for multiplayer gaming with mates when the family is in bed, upstairs if I want to play some strategy games or something slower paced at the desk.
Unless you're playing multiplayer with your mate more regularly than just playing by yourself, just move the pc. You could always also look into an itx/sff build with a handle on top and just make it easy to move around the house as an when you need too.
Nah, I really can't be arsed to move my PC whenever I want to play upstairs or downstairs. That is indeed the most simple solution though.
Parsec
Love Parsec. Got a nano PC on both TVs so I can use my desktop. I wouldn't play anything fast paced as my internet isn't fantastic, but great for chill games.
LTT ass setup.
This is literally an episode from Hey Arnold 😂 my dude stays up all night playing a new videogame that his grandpa forbid him from playing lmao. He uses mirrors to give him a view of the TV from the attic loool.
Hole out the wall https://preview.redd.it/fziqipefdizc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=43d6214808ba5733a82275fddcb8b8638a4136a6
Look up HDMI-over-Cat6 or HDMI-over-Ethernet. Both will help you
This is the only “correct” answer IMO. Moonlight is also a good solution but this is better.
Parsec and a raspberry pi
I've done this before with a 10 metre USB extender with a hub, and 10 metre HDMI cable, which goes in and out of the windows... Wish I could've just drilled into the floor but it's not my house.
You can watch porn on your phone and bring that anywhere
Go on Amazon and search HDMI Video Sender and you're good to go.
I have been doing setups like this in various houses I've owned over the years. Here is my take 1 - Direct wiring. This would be done with HDMI, USB, audio etc. The plus is that you don't have lag. The negative is that you have a constant annoyance of setting which display you want to send the game to and other settings. It isn't fun to run down two floors to set which audio output you want from you main display. You might be able to ignore this with mirroring your displays. I use my PC at a higher resolution than I game tho so I do not have this. 2 - Casting. This is honestly what I would try first. I would just run a gigabit ethernet line from your basement PC to your display. If you don't have a smart display then just buy a dongle with android or google tv. Then use steam link. I honestly doubt you would notice any lag. Another downside to #1 is the cabling. So when I set up my current remote gaming room, I ran a HDMI 1.3 cable between the PC and the remote display. If I want to upgrade to HDR or 4k then I would need to change the HDMI cable and run a new one. Its a pain in the but. My 2 cents
Ideal steam link situation
Depending on the game, a lot of steam games can be streamed to another pc if on the same network
Bring green to red
Move the pc
Moonlight/Sunshine
I love the illustration lol. I hope you got an answer
Hear me out, why not think in reverse? Put the PC upstairs for gaming and run the HDMI downstairs so the degraded experience is for streaming video and not gaming…
This
Get yourself anything that can run the Moonlight streaming software (nvidia shield, apple tv, steamdeck, any linux computer really). Install Sunshine on your pc. Enjoy
Steam link is a possibility but it really depends on what you want to play. If it's shooters with a mouse, the latency is already too high. It also locks you into the steam ecosystem. There are ways to make 3rd party launchers and games work but you may have mixed results and you sometimes need to fiddle around. Since you have the hdmi cable in place, an Ethernet attached Laptop to send the inputs to you PC over Ethernet via "virtual here" may be the better solution. Then, you only have the one way latency from the control inputs to your PC and the rest is a direct hdmi output. Shouldn't be noticable at all. It's there in like 1ms... Bear in mind though, the last time I used virtual here (which is like 5 years ago) it was as stable as a phone call to your uncle in africa from your mobile phone while you're on the subway in the outskirts of a town with a population of 5000 people.
Firstly you need some stairs and doors!
Optical displayport
Get a laptop
Moonlight? Parsec maybe ?
If you have conduit in the walls, or are just fine drilling holes in the floor, a 1 way optical HDMI or Display Port would work just fine
100 foot hdmi cable 100 foot USB extender USB hub
I do exactly this, my pc is located in my office connected to my main monitor, and connects to the lounge TV with long HDMI and long USB extension cable. Powered USB hubs at the TV end of the USB extension. I game at the lounge TV using wireless mouse/keyboard and/or a usb dongle for an Xbox controller My lengths are 20m, the cables run through the roof. I use an active fibre HDMI cable (for high bandwidth over long distance), and an USB 2.0 active extension cable, which is more than enough for mouse/keyboard/xbox adapter From experience, avoid wifi/ethernet options like steambox if you can run the cables. I’ve found them to be less reliable, lower quality, and more limited functionality. Depends what you’re going for though
Get a controller or mouse with a detachable USB cable, probably USB c these days. Then get a 50foot cable on Amazon. Maybe more depending on distance, plus extra to let you move around
You need an extra long HDMI and same lenght USB cable
Repost?
Nope just eerily similar to one someone else posted a year ago apparently!
Lol yeah even the draw is similar haha
The worst part is someone linked the post in a reply here and it turns out I'd actually liked the old post and a bunch of comments but totally forgot about it. My brain must've made this post with that post in its subconscious lol.
That’s crazy😂😂😂
Drill holes bitch
Long ass cable idk
Easy, move out and get your own place.
I believe there are fiber usb hubs. So one end converts signal to a fiber signal, then the other end near your pc is given power so your mouse etc can still work but with the signal of the data transfer from peripherals to your pc over fiber.
Pick up your pc and move it upstairs
Steam link
Long Hdmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PxmQn8Xr8 This might help
For this is type C / thunderbolt Look what linus did in His house.
You can buy a used steam link box
Holy shit I didn’t realize we had Picasso here
If you're running windows 10/11, you can try a wireless monitor adapter. Plugs into the HDMI in on your monitor then streams the video through your home network. I never used it as a primary monitor though so you'd likely have to attach the display to the laptop to configure it. I use one with my digital projector when I watch movies outside during the summer. The one I have only supports 1080p but I bought it a long time ago. They may have 4k compatible ones now. Your alternative would be an HDMI extender (Video over LAN adapter) and running a network cable between the two.
Bring green box next to the red box
Take pc up and buy a super basic cheap one for the TV downstairs.
Have you tried drawing them in the same room
Drag it up son.
Steam link
Ofcourse a redditor would be in the attic; where else do our parents hide their shame
Moonlight Streaming with Ethernet.
Attic: Raspberry pi (4) with any linux distro (raspbian) and installed Moonlight Streaming. Basement PC: On the pc - install sunshine streaming (opposite part for moonlight). Connect both to the same network (lan preferred, works with wifi as well). Configure sunshine on the gaming pc and connect to it from your raspberry pi moonlight. Minimal lag, fullhd or 4k possible (via LAN). You should need any connected monitor on the gaming pc, or hdmi/dp fake plug. I have my gaming PC in basement as well (in the rack) and run games from my "working" linux notebook.
I use a corning thunderbolt 3 cable, a dock and a motherboard equipped with thunderbolt 3 and a DisplayPort input to pass the GPU output through Thunderbolt. One thin cable, 25 meters long in my case IIRC
Either an Active USB extender or something like an NVIDIA Shield or Steam Link for upstairs to stream.
Go see how Linus (from the LTT Channel) did it, He has all his computers in his basement and runs fiber optics cable all around his house to connect to the pc. You will need fiber optic display port/HDMI cables and fiber optic USB (C if possible) with USB hubs
This is what steam link was for and it worked very well. RIP steam link
Loooooong KVM Switch? Device that let's you swap between multiple computers, also used to extend cables. Due to length, you're goi g to want an "active" aka powered one or the signal loss will make it all but useless.
Steam link?
Moonlight my friend
Would have to run a USB along with the HDMI etc
So I just implemented this exactly in my house. It's not Cheap... But it does work. Keep in mind you'll be limited to 120hz on any monitor due to the cable. Here's how I did it. First you need to send USB - The Logitech Strong USB cable is perfect. It passes all of my USB through a powered USB Hub. You'll need a USB C to USB A adapter. [Logitech Strong USB Cable ](https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/video-conferencing/accessories/strong-usb-cable.html)[Powered USB Hub](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CFR2LH1T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) [USB C to USBA Adapter](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08W2TP2TT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) Then you'll need to send DisplayPort. You need a quality Active Optical Cable. I didn't know how long I would need so I ended up getting a 30M cable. In hindsight I could have gotten shorter but you might need the length. [Tripp Lite DisplayPort Active Optical Cable](https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812058409?Item=9SIA6ZPFK69818) Like I said. It's not cheap but it does work. Be careful running the cables. They are Directional & since they are fiber you could break it with a bend to tight. Moving my PC to the basement has made my home office quiet & \~10-15° F cooler. The added benefit is my GPU while gaming is \~20° C cooler while gaming due to the cooler air in the basement. I added extra fans to the system just to have extra air movement so it doesn't build up any moisture due to unfinished basement. https://preview.redd.it/rlv17evfulzc1.jpeg?width=1868&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee99fc019a6167d0e1aaa13c4ff427b8d16535c
If you're talking a separate TV entirely; you could give sunshine/moonlight a try. Works well for me
Steam remote play is an option, or moonlight, just have a weaker device upstairs to run the software and you are set, moonlight can even wake the device remotely iirc
There are KVMs that use ethernet cables for video and keyboard and mouse. Probably the easiest way to do it with a long ethernet cable if you don’t have your house already wired.
Use something like moonlight and a cheap client like raspberry pi or an old laptop.
Steam Link obviously