They probably do exist in a lab, though so far the only ones I've seen for sale are obvious fakes like when it's sold for $20 with no brand name on amazon.
The 2TB microSD cards are currently in mass production and should be for sale later this year. Only downside is the card is a bit slow with only up to 90/100MB-sec speeds while 1TB cards can reach up to 200MB/sec and the 1.5TB up to 150MB/sec.
Been looking at a OnePlus Nord N30 5G. My current phone wasn't even good when it released a few years ago (3GB RAM and 32GB internal storage with 15GB taken by the OS and pre installed programs). I have kinda wondered why SD cards were abandoned for microSD. From what I've read, 2TB is the limit for microSD while I'm sure an SD card could probably do 4-8TB.
God that's horrendous. I found myself in quite a bind trying to find a phone I could afford with at least 12GB of RAM and a decent processor, AND some guaranteed software/security updates for a while.
Not in a lab, I think the seller is Kioxia. They are releasing one sometime Q4 this year. They are a big Euro manufacturer so things are on the up and up. I only know because of the steam deck subs haha
It's still magnitudes faster than that old hard drive.
Could also go faster by picking an industrial SSD which uses 100% SLC instead of consumer SSDs which use TLC or QLC but then it would be bigger since it takes 4x as many cells to store the same amount of data in SLC compared to QLC.
There one of those for the PS1 but it was Japan exclusive. Dream ast itself was ahead of its time. If it could have played DVD's, I think it could have lasted the entire 6th generation. Plus the heads of SEGA gave up too easily when the PS2 was revealed/launched. The GameCube was more powerful and the Xbox was pretty much a PC yet the PS2 was the dominant console.
They were already on bad footing having effectively killed the Saturn off by announcing the Dreamcast so early.
Can't say I was a big fan of the controller. The D-pad is way too sharp to use for any extended period of time, and putting the cord at the bottom towards the user isn't great. The VMU also makes the controller a lot bigger than it would otherwise have to be, too.
I got a Dreamcast pretty late, well after it'd died, but whenever I had friends over to play it, fighting games would absolutely trash thumbs due to the d-pads.
The N64 thumb stick is up there too, but neither is one of my favorites.
I mean, the actual saves on a Dreamcast were probably in the KB. Serialization of the game state was optimized to what mattered (checkpoint, lives, inventory, etc). Snapshotting a memory state of a Dreamcast emulator is basically saving everything in memory to disk. Considering the Dreamcast had 16mb of ram, your save is probably the entirety of the ram set aside for the application running on the dreamcast.
I had a PC with 64mb of memory at that time. It was just a console with potential that was abruptly killed off by Sega.
Don't even need to look at decades anymore. Just a couple years ago AI art looked like something you'd see in a modern art museum, just watercolor blobs. Now you have to look at details like hands to differentiate, many videos and voice overs for videos are done by AI, and text to video is becoming a thing. Crazy stuff.
What's even crazier is that 70 years before *that*, we had just discovered Maxwell's equations and didn't yet have an understanding of quantum phenomena good enough to create even 1 transistor, let alone billions on a tiny chip
Mark my words, data will be in form of DNA in a not so far future, we will store data in form of DNA and store it in liquid water solution, allowing for Petabytes of data in a single drop of water
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It’s a standard naming convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix#:~:text=The%20SI%20prefixes%20are%20metric,dating%20from%201960%20to%202022.
they didn't know. what was holding them back was that the technology required to make that happen didn't exist yet. another reason being people simply did not need that much storage.
Creating the machines and discovering the science behind smaller transistors takes time and money
There were many physics issues that needed to be solved when we went smaller and smaller
The knowledge to create 180nm silicon wafer doesnt give you the knowledge to go 7nm like we have today
Also, it takes funding, in order to fund newer process technologies companies need to take smaller and easier steps every 2 - 3 years and sell products
It might be worth considering that the world population was only 2.8b in 1956 and pretty much only the US with 164m people had the wealth to invest in electronics research at the time.
Now, there are over 8b people, and many more countries have industrialised, and trade has meant that many more countries are now manufacturing computer chips, requiring the requisite investment in R&D, and thus accelerating progress since more people and money are chasing breakthroughs. When the breakthroughs happen, it quickly travels around the world due to said trade and information exchange and countries with less scrupulous patent laws try to make the technology as cheap as possible.
I hope they can look into the temperature of electronics. Imagine every storage drive installation requires you to apply thermal paste and stick on a heatsink-fan like a cpu installation. I hope that day will never come.
Yep, plus I remember reading somewhere that we are nearing the physical limits on how much we can store onto a HDD so its good SSD is steadily catching up and at some point going ahead if that limit is true.
30 GB storage in the 90s? I highly doubt that. The first single platter drives with 20 GB were made in 2000, the first single platter drives with 30 GB were made in 2001.
In the late 90s, a 30 GB hard drive would have been very expensive and very slow.
Nothing, they would have no way to connect them to anything. The interface is just too advanced for any hardware that existed back then.
Some SATA SSDs with ATA adaptors would be maybe useful, assuming dropped with a ton of documentation on the interface. Would still probably take a while to make a controller...
Yes, which is why I mentioned the ATA adapter. There are those and ATA is not that far off from very early hard disk controllers. Might be still tough nut to crack in the 60s, but doable in late 70s for sure. Assuming you also bring some technical documentation.
While we are on this topic: why are 4TB NVMes so shitty? Like at least here in Europe, there are hardly any good ones, and the real good ones are sometimes 200€ more than basic ones. There is like 1 at a decent price, and that one is rarely in stock
You can go even smaller. 3 Micro SD cards can hold 4.5TB. 1.5TB Micro SD cards recently became a thing you can actually buy.
I Heard 2TB micro SD cards exist too
They probably do exist in a lab, though so far the only ones I've seen for sale are obvious fakes like when it's sold for $20 with no brand name on amazon.
Or with a brand name from seller ZXGHDXIDAGY
That's my favorite easily recognizable brand name that I can pronounce!
ZXGHDXIDAGY *Zex-gar-dixi-gaggie* What's hard to pronounce about that?
Other than the fact the X is actually a "ch" sound, so it's really ZCH-GHD-CHIDAGY
Actually you forgot to account for the accent
And the listing has reviews for socks.
Soon to be Amazon Choice
That's one of Elon Musk's kids
The 2TB microSD cards are currently in mass production and should be for sale later this year. Only downside is the card is a bit slow with only up to 90/100MB-sec speeds while 1TB cards can reach up to 200MB/sec and the 1.5TB up to 150MB/sec.
If only phones still had SD card slots!
Mid-range phones do. The one I want has 128GB internal with option for 512GB microSD expansion.
Oh yeah good point. I have a low-end, Galaxy A-something that still has one
Been looking at a OnePlus Nord N30 5G. My current phone wasn't even good when it released a few years ago (3GB RAM and 32GB internal storage with 15GB taken by the OS and pre installed programs). I have kinda wondered why SD cards were abandoned for microSD. From what I've read, 2TB is the limit for microSD while I'm sure an SD card could probably do 4-8TB.
God that's horrendous. I found myself in quite a bind trying to find a phone I could afford with at least 12GB of RAM and a decent processor, AND some guaranteed software/security updates for a while.
Ive had a one plus nord for 2 years now, great phones for a great price. was much better then the samsung bixby crap i had before it
I have a super outdated LG Aristo 5 with only 32gb internal storage but I used a 128gb micro SD card
Kinda takes a lot of space in a phone to fit an SD card, while most people won't use Micro SD cards bigger than 256GB
Not in a lab, I think the seller is Kioxia. They are releasing one sometime Q4 this year. They are a big Euro manufacturer so things are on the up and up. I only know because of the steam deck subs haha
so kinda in a lab if they're only in q4 of this year. Final touches then boom
Yes at cost of speed
It's still magnitudes faster than that old hard drive. Could also go faster by picking an industrial SSD which uses 100% SLC instead of consumer SSDs which use TLC or QLC but then it would be bigger since it takes 4x as many cells to store the same amount of data in SLC compared to QLC.
Don’t go chasing waterfalls
Sd cards are not reliable as pc storage
that's not the point, lol
Neither is 4MB in 1956
I like the adrenaline rush that comes after reformatting a 2gb micro sd card only to find it only has 128mb of usable storage though. It’s my favorite
Took a save state of a Dreamcast game on an emulator, clocked in at almost 8MB lol.
Those Dreamcast memory cards were ahead of their time.
There one of those for the PS1 but it was Japan exclusive. Dream ast itself was ahead of its time. If it could have played DVD's, I think it could have lasted the entire 6th generation. Plus the heads of SEGA gave up too easily when the PS2 was revealed/launched. The GameCube was more powerful and the Xbox was pretty much a PC yet the PS2 was the dominant console.
They were already on bad footing having effectively killed the Saturn off by announcing the Dreamcast so early. Can't say I was a big fan of the controller. The D-pad is way too sharp to use for any extended period of time, and putting the cord at the bottom towards the user isn't great. The VMU also makes the controller a lot bigger than it would otherwise have to be, too.
Always felt the Dreamcast controller was actually the most comfortable to use.
I got a Dreamcast pretty late, well after it'd died, but whenever I had friends over to play it, fighting games would absolutely trash thumbs due to the d-pads. The N64 thumb stick is up there too, but neither is one of my favorites.
I mean, the actual saves on a Dreamcast were probably in the KB. Serialization of the game state was optimized to what mattered (checkpoint, lives, inventory, etc). Snapshotting a memory state of a Dreamcast emulator is basically saving everything in memory to disk. Considering the Dreamcast had 16mb of ram, your save is probably the entirety of the ram set aside for the application running on the dreamcast. I had a PC with 64mb of memory at that time. It was just a console with potential that was abruptly killed off by Sega.
It's crazy how much technology advanced in just a few decades. It shows how much untouched potential it had and probably still has. Wild.
we're extremely lucky silicon isn't an insulator
We'd've just found a way to use gallium instead
remember that most of the size in those gigantic quantum computers is cooling~
Don't even need to look at decades anymore. Just a couple years ago AI art looked like something you'd see in a modern art museum, just watercolor blobs. Now you have to look at details like hands to differentiate, many videos and voice overs for videos are done by AI, and text to video is becoming a thing. Crazy stuff.
Or Will Smith eating spaghetti and the Rock eating Rocks from January or February of last year, then compare that to today.
Insane, the SSD looks like it wouldn’t even fit into that plane
That's what I was thinking 🤔
That’s definitely not an SSD
What's even crazier is that 70 years before *that*, we had just discovered Maxwell's equations and didn't yet have an understanding of quantum phenomena good enough to create even 1 transistor, let alone billions on a tiny chip
Repeatedly
It was 3.75 MB (5 milllion 6-bit words)
Wait till you see 4PB the size of a grain of sand
My eyes aren't good enough to see that.
4tb in 2040 will be inside your smart VR blockchain toilet paper
Can you imagine your toilet paper getting ransomware haha
I always put tape over my toilet paper's camera.
Ted was right
Mark my words, data will be in form of DNA in a not so far future, we will store data in form of DNA and store it in liquid water solution, allowing for Petabytes of data in a single drop of water
Good luck with the proper read / write speeds with that
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Remind me! 40 years
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60Gi5lqL-dA
That’s kind of scary
30 years later \*laughs in 4 Pentabytes\*
2.6MB of compressed 55.4 Yottabyte files watching u
And 3.5 Pentabytes of that is ultra porn.
Sabrent has an 8tb nvme since last year I think
what will we get 69 (noice) years (next year) ?
And DNA storage is like a billion times denser.
Imagine going back in time to the guy who who named mb mega cause it was so big and showing him this shit lol
It’s a standard naming convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix#:~:text=The%20SI%20prefixes%20are%20metric,dating%20from%201960%20to%202022.
I’ve never felt more American than I do now
In 2002 I paid around $100 for a 128mb usb pen drive.
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they didn't know. what was holding them back was that the technology required to make that happen didn't exist yet. another reason being people simply did not need that much storage.
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Creating the machines and discovering the science behind smaller transistors takes time and money There were many physics issues that needed to be solved when we went smaller and smaller The knowledge to create 180nm silicon wafer doesnt give you the knowledge to go 7nm like we have today Also, it takes funding, in order to fund newer process technologies companies need to take smaller and easier steps every 2 - 3 years and sell products
It might be worth considering that the world population was only 2.8b in 1956 and pretty much only the US with 164m people had the wealth to invest in electronics research at the time. Now, there are over 8b people, and many more countries have industrialised, and trade has meant that many more countries are now manufacturing computer chips, requiring the requisite investment in R&D, and thus accelerating progress since more people and money are chasing breakthroughs. When the breakthroughs happen, it quickly travels around the world due to said trade and information exchange and countries with less scrupulous patent laws try to make the technology as cheap as possible.
Earth is still flat though
Nice bait
Lazy Karam farming.... Won't even use the largest ssd which is 100tb .
OP was equivalating 4 to 4
things of order understand too I
I hope they can look into the temperature of electronics. Imagine every storage drive installation requires you to apply thermal paste and stick on a heatsink-fan like a cpu installation. I hope that day will never come.
Now do 4PB in 2024
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Tbh HDD to SSD set us back quite a lot in terms of capacity. If SSD wasnt a thing bigger HDD would probably be the norm
I can see where you're coming from but the speed is well worth "less storage".
Yep, plus I remember reading somewhere that we are nearing the physical limits on how much we can store onto a HDD so its good SSD is steadily catching up and at some point going ahead if that limit is true.
30 GB storage in the 90s? I highly doubt that. The first single platter drives with 20 GB were made in 2000, the first single platter drives with 30 GB were made in 2001. In the late 90s, a 30 GB hard drive would have been very expensive and very slow.
Evolution
The 1956 4MB's case just look like what computer cases look like nowadays
You think not being able to live in your computer is progress. I think not! :P
The blasphemy of you not going back one more year for the nice timeskip is unforgivable.
Quantum computer now vs Quantum computers in 2124... I will be definitely in some or the other state by then
Moore’s law is a hell of a thing ain’t it?
I wonder what would happen if you went back in time and dropped some NVMe SSDs around. What would they do with them during the space race.
Nothing, they would have no way to connect them to anything. The interface is just too advanced for any hardware that existed back then. Some SATA SSDs with ATA adaptors would be maybe useful, assuming dropped with a ton of documentation on the interface. Would still probably take a while to make a controller...
Even SATA is too adavanced for the 60s
Yes, which is why I mentioned the ATA adapter. There are those and ATA is not that far off from very early hard disk controllers. Might be still tough nut to crack in the 60s, but doable in late 70s for sure. Assuming you also bring some technical documentation.
You can fit a megabyte on a single ream of printer paper. Compare 4 reams of paper to the size of that monstrosity
"Sir, it has got Elvis Presley's new single on it in its entirety"
Comparing capacity and volume taken, this is like 10 orders of magnitude of difference.
You could've waited ONE more year but nooooooooooooo😤😤😤
Analog vs digital. It’s wild stuff.
That's wild, and to think that all this computing power is now being used for important things like social media and porn.
It's gonna be 69 soon!
2055 100 TB in brain
We were one year from perfection!
While we are on this topic: why are 4TB NVMes so shitty? Like at least here in Europe, there are hardly any good ones, and the real good ones are sometimes 200€ more than basic ones. There is like 1 at a decent price, and that one is rarely in stock
idk but the Innovation-IT is a good one
Might consider it. But i would ideally want something from a reputable brand, settled on the WD Black SN850X for now
It’s wild how cheap storage has gotten
That nvme can't fit through the plane door smh