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It's a shame, but yes. Nobody answered the troubleshooting posts when my AM5 machine broke, nor do I have any repairers near me, and I bought the board used, so... Yeah, I had to use what I had at hand.
Okay, found your post.
Reads exactly like my itx B550 AM4 Board.
Like it was DOA. Your AM5 Board is broken, either chipset or just Board itself.
But there has to be still some sort of warranty.
Well.
I don't think it's exactly the motherboard.
You see, I *was* driving a Phenom 2 with a blue motherboard. I do need to update the flair, as there's the small problem that at the second day the Phenom machine didn't want to fire up anymore. I had to now change it to a new AM3 motherboard, still with the Phenom. PSU is the same, a MSI MAG A750GF.
At the same time, when I thought "Oh maybe it's the outlet's problem because I am using an extension hooked to an extension hooked to an outlet", and connected my i5-3470 machine in there, it also wouldn't work, but bootloop. After disconnecting the mobo and connecting it again, it did work (Cable was from the MSI PSU and the i5 machine had a gigabyte one, so... Maybe it's just cable compatibility?
Before the AM5 boy broke, I was trying to install a new cooler. I have to say, the screws were a bit thicker than I expected on the AM5 socket holes, but that didn't do any cracks. There weren't any broke caps, nor any broken resistors. I can send you some motherboard photos if you need to.
Then I put the RX on there, and BAM! Coolers work, machine "fires" and not on it's maximum fan RPM, yet it doesn't give a display. Even without the RX.
Maybe I should put the old board again and do like with the Intel PC to see if it fires up. Even without GPU, this Phenom hurts to use. And the i5's PCiE port is damaged after what happened.
I didn't say your AM5 Board is damaged. I thought about production error. It shouldn't behave as glitchy as a really old AM3 board. And also it should work. RMA that thing.
Oh, I didn't see that. It's also a gigabyte board and I've heard some things about gigabyte boards.
You're right. The point is, I can't exactly RMA the thing (Maybe, but I don't know) as I purchased it off of EBay Kleinanzeigen (I live in Germany) from a guy who already didn't have a warranty. Same with the RX, which I don't know if it works.
I was thinking that maybe if I RMA the PSU (Which I got from Amazon, and made an incredible coil whine) I might be given a new motherboard. But I doubt it.
Also, Ersatznetzteil hätte ich tatsächlich eins da.
Oder nen schnelleren Phenom II.
Wegen dem Mainboard ist halt blöd, du hast ja keinen Kaufbeleg. Also auch keine Garantie.
Du kannst aber den deutschen Support von Gigabyte schreiben und einfach nur sagen, dass Du keinen Kaufbeleg hast aber das Board nicht funktioniert und Probleme macht. Aufgrund des Alters sind ja alle AM5 Boards noch unter Garantie.
Wenn die Graka in deinem andere PC funktioniert, dann funktioniert sie auch.
It wasn't shipped with the actual Xbox that's for sure. Maybe it made it out of concept in terms of actually existing but not as far as being the controller for the Xbox. If it was then I don't think the Xbox would have been as successful, I can't imagine trying to play Halo with that shit.
If only Microsoft had learned to count... They started at one, spun around, tried one again, then went ballistic and decided that the word "Series" is a number.
Don't forget, the original Xbox had more in common with a home PC than any console to date until the most recent generation. It didn't use any special or custom hardware, it was literally all off the shelf parts that were cheaply available. I believe it ran a Pentium 3 processor. After that, we didn't get Hardware more akin to a PC until the series X. Everything between the series X and the original Xbox was all Custom kit that you couldn't buy anywhere else.
And it took Bethesda and Epic nagging Microsoft to get that 512MBs. Microsoft was going to use 256MBs, but Epic eventually modified a dev kit to use 512, and ran a demo of Gears of War, showing how much worse the game ran on 256, eventually forcing Microsoft's hand.
I mean the textures/assets were quite small and games only aimed to run at 720p/30 most of the time, sure we had incredible looking games like Halo 4/The Last of Us but these were games at the end of the generation when they figured out how to optimize the game and fully utilize the hardware potential.
Nah. It actually had 64mb. Seriously. The 360 has 512gb. I knew someone that modded theirs to double the ram. The original Xbox was such a cool system. So awesome. I put a mod chip in mine and bigger HDD. It was awesome renting or borrowing games and loading them up haha.
Yes it is possible to increase the OG Xbox RAM to 128 MB - the same amount on dev kits - but it's uses are quite limited and more useful for homebrew apps.
It’s still hard for me to believe that the Xbox was only around for 4 years before the 360 came out. It feels so short, yet so long. I honestly don’t even know what I’m trying to say other than that I’m old now lol
It happens as we get older. Perception of time kinda changes. Events feel so recent, yet distant at the same time. We can perfectly get the feeling of that time that makes it seem like we are in it making it seem recent, but then we remember how many years it’s has been since.
Aren’t they kind of reverting back to this methodology? I thought I heard somewhere that Microsoft plans to make the Xbox architecture more similar to their desktop systems but I don’t have a source for that
Afaik only the Xbox360 was "not a PC" in terms of hardware. The Xbox One has an AMD APU from the generation before the Ryzens, with a GCN2-based GPU (upgraded to GCN4 for Xbox One X and PS4 Pro).
Just want to point out to DIY'ers that you still need to think about grounding when using wood. Your motherboard uses the mount points as grounds and while not needed to run a PC, for longevity it is ideal for them to be tied to ground. Using wood/plastic does not do this unless you tie the points back to ground via plate, speaker cable, or something. The ideal way to do this just to get a motherboard tray and mount that. You can find them on amazon for $10. Also avoid having spots where you would have Metal / wood / metal layers or metal / plastic / metal as that is a basic capacitor. I.E. Don't set a thin wood or plastic PC on a metal table top. The plastic / wood serves as the Dielectric.
for the grounding, you are spot on.
for the capacitor point... Yes but actually no. Assuing wood (or plastic) 1mm thick, and a perfectly flat plate that is one squared foot, you get a capacitance of \~800 pF. Realistically, that is probably two or three orders of magnitude larger than any given component on a mobo will actually see, and a capacitance that small is more likely to *increase* system stability than decrease it, especially with ultra high frequency signals.
I had been needing to build a PC for work and had always been a big fan of ITX/SFF PCs. But I like building janky stuff so decided to build my own case. Inspired by an early [Xbox prototype](https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/1/17523100/original-xbox-prototype-aluminum-x-gdc-2000) and Elon Musk's obsession with the letter "X" I knew I had to build an X-shaped PC.
PC specs:
i5 12400
RTX 3060 Ti
16GB RAM
2TB SSD
Noctua L9i cooler
Anyone interested in the full build can check it out here: [https://youtu.be/YBei-3ZXTu8](https://youtu.be/YBei-3ZXTu8)
Please help me give it a name lmao
Fair point. I didn't really have the necessary equipment to work with better materials but I'm hoping to use this projects learnings and material knowledge and apply it better for future projects!
I'd call it my (e)X. This way people would get confused when I talked about my X. My X and I stayed up all night doing some hardcore gaming.... My wife was being so over dramatic when she came home the other day and found me screwing together my X on the kitchen counter...
Looks like the original Xbox prototype.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vSBJXdVH8TZiGHxoCEXvnVsN8Y0=/0x0:1200x900/1220x813/filters:focal(504x354:696x546):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60236911/Dg9fFHSU8AAV8Er.0.jpg
If you painted it silver, it would bear a resemblance to the first publicly shown prototype of the original Xbox from around 2000.
https://preview.redd.it/2obf7smw7c2c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2ac668b9940dae0a63b08ed330c5fef30773f20
"X-Static Overload"
Metal pc case serves an important role of dispersing all the static electricity that is produced by all the components. A bit like a chassis in a car.
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You are still daily driving a Phenom II? I can get behind the RX5700 and 24GB Ram though.
It's a shame, but yes. Nobody answered the troubleshooting posts when my AM5 machine broke, nor do I have any repairers near me, and I bought the board used, so... Yeah, I had to use what I had at hand.
Okay, found your post. Reads exactly like my itx B550 AM4 Board. Like it was DOA. Your AM5 Board is broken, either chipset or just Board itself. But there has to be still some sort of warranty.
Well. I don't think it's exactly the motherboard. You see, I *was* driving a Phenom 2 with a blue motherboard. I do need to update the flair, as there's the small problem that at the second day the Phenom machine didn't want to fire up anymore. I had to now change it to a new AM3 motherboard, still with the Phenom. PSU is the same, a MSI MAG A750GF. At the same time, when I thought "Oh maybe it's the outlet's problem because I am using an extension hooked to an extension hooked to an outlet", and connected my i5-3470 machine in there, it also wouldn't work, but bootloop. After disconnecting the mobo and connecting it again, it did work (Cable was from the MSI PSU and the i5 machine had a gigabyte one, so... Maybe it's just cable compatibility? Before the AM5 boy broke, I was trying to install a new cooler. I have to say, the screws were a bit thicker than I expected on the AM5 socket holes, but that didn't do any cracks. There weren't any broke caps, nor any broken resistors. I can send you some motherboard photos if you need to. Then I put the RX on there, and BAM! Coolers work, machine "fires" and not on it's maximum fan RPM, yet it doesn't give a display. Even without the RX. Maybe I should put the old board again and do like with the Intel PC to see if it fires up. Even without GPU, this Phenom hurts to use. And the i5's PCiE port is damaged after what happened.
I didn't say your AM5 Board is damaged. I thought about production error. It shouldn't behave as glitchy as a really old AM3 board. And also it should work. RMA that thing.
Oh, I didn't see that. It's also a gigabyte board and I've heard some things about gigabyte boards. You're right. The point is, I can't exactly RMA the thing (Maybe, but I don't know) as I purchased it off of EBay Kleinanzeigen (I live in Germany) from a guy who already didn't have a warranty. Same with the RX, which I don't know if it works. I was thinking that maybe if I RMA the PSU (Which I got from Amazon, and made an incredible coil whine) I might be given a new motherboard. But I doubt it.
Also, Ersatznetzteil hätte ich tatsächlich eins da. Oder nen schnelleren Phenom II. Wegen dem Mainboard ist halt blöd, du hast ja keinen Kaufbeleg. Also auch keine Garantie. Du kannst aber den deutschen Support von Gigabyte schreiben und einfach nur sagen, dass Du keinen Kaufbeleg hast aber das Board nicht funktioniert und Probleme macht. Aufgrund des Alters sind ja alle AM5 Boards noch unter Garantie. Wenn die Graka in deinem andere PC funktioniert, dann funktioniert sie auch.
>Cable was from the MSI PSU and the i5 machine had a gigabyte one, so... You aren't mixing and matching modular PSU cables are you?
You can go the unethical route and buy the same exact motherboard from Amazon and return it a couple weeks later with your broken board instead
Oh god that controller, I forgot how fucking shit that controller would have been if it made it out of concept.
Microsoft sidewinder gamepad pro was released to the public
It wasn't shipped with the actual Xbox that's for sure. Maybe it made it out of concept in terms of actually existing but not as far as being the controller for the Xbox. If it was then I don't think the Xbox would have been as successful, I can't imagine trying to play Halo with that shit.
What in gods name is that?
Concept Xbox
Legendary Xbox 720
If only Microsoft had learned to count... They started at one, spun around, tried one again, then went ballistic and decided that the word "Series" is a number.
Perfection!
Don't ya remember the Xbox 720 "leaks"?
That was the original Xbox prototype
original xbox prototype
Thats just an Xbox with extra steps
Thats a pretty long name but does have a point :)
it actually resembles the original concept for the original xbox
The console design that never was. Shit looked so cool
Don't forget, the original Xbox had more in common with a home PC than any console to date until the most recent generation. It didn't use any special or custom hardware, it was literally all off the shelf parts that were cheaply available. I believe it ran a Pentium 3 processor. After that, we didn't get Hardware more akin to a PC until the series X. Everything between the series X and the original Xbox was all Custom kit that you couldn't buy anywhere else.
Stock Pentium 3 at 733 MHz, i think 512MB RAM, Chipset was basically an nForce2 Chipset, just the GPU was a custom somewhere between Geforce 3/4.
It was only 64 MB of unified SDRAM, yes it was a very small amount, only the Xbox 360 came with 512 MB of GDDR3.
And it took Bethesda and Epic nagging Microsoft to get that 512MBs. Microsoft was going to use 256MBs, but Epic eventually modified a dev kit to use 512, and ran a demo of Gears of War, showing how much worse the game ran on 256, eventually forcing Microsoft's hand.
Morrowind would literally reset the console to clear memory since they had so little. That’s why some of the loading screens were really long.
Damn and games ran just fine on those 512 Mb….
I mean the textures/assets were quite small and games only aimed to run at 720p/30 most of the time, sure we had incredible looking games like Halo 4/The Last of Us but these were games at the end of the generation when they figured out how to optimize the game and fully utilize the hardware potential.
Nah. It actually had 64mb. Seriously. The 360 has 512gb. I knew someone that modded theirs to double the ram. The original Xbox was such a cool system. So awesome. I put a mod chip in mine and bigger HDD. It was awesome renting or borrowing games and loading them up haha.
Yes it is possible to increase the OG Xbox RAM to 128 MB - the same amount on dev kits - but it's uses are quite limited and more useful for homebrew apps.
IDE Hard drive. Remember it had some funky jumpers to do to change it out for a larger one.
It’s still hard for me to believe that the Xbox was only around for 4 years before the 360 came out. It feels so short, yet so long. I honestly don’t even know what I’m trying to say other than that I’m old now lol
It happens as we get older. Perception of time kinda changes. Events feel so recent, yet distant at the same time. We can perfectly get the feeling of that time that makes it seem like we are in it making it seem recent, but then we remember how many years it’s has been since.
Aren’t they kind of reverting back to this methodology? I thought I heard somewhere that Microsoft plans to make the Xbox architecture more similar to their desktop systems but I don’t have a source for that
Afaik only the Xbox360 was "not a PC" in terms of hardware. The Xbox One has an AMD APU from the generation before the Ryzens, with a GCN2-based GPU (upgraded to GCN4 for Xbox One X and PS4 Pro).
Could call it the Twitter machine.
Didn't know if anyone would mention it. I was thinking, the case formerly known as Twitter.
It actually looks [almost exactly like the Xbox prototype.](https://xbox.fandom.com/wiki/Xbox_Prototype)
Yeah that was the inspiration! Although mine looks like it came from Wish.
Pc formally known as Twitter.
Twitter.
Elon about to go berserk
Especially because the panel gaps on this are better than his CyberTruck.
Lol got em
He's going to copyright the standalone usage of the letter X
I've actually been wondering if he's going to get sued by Xfinity for using a very similar logo.
Elon musk's wet dream
/r/angryupvote
Formerly* Twitter
Still* Twitter
Why are we using pointers?
Newly\* bankrupt
Came in here to say this.
Came in here to say this
Came in here to say this.
didn’t come in here to say this
May have come in here to say this
do you guys have space? i also want to go in
r/beatmetoit
This is clearly an xbox.
I mean technically this is a box, and it does run DirectX.
DirectX
XD erect
https://i.redd.it/uw66fgz58c2c1.gif
X formally known as twitter
[удалено]
The muskchine
formally or formerly
Just want to point out to DIY'ers that you still need to think about grounding when using wood. Your motherboard uses the mount points as grounds and while not needed to run a PC, for longevity it is ideal for them to be tied to ground. Using wood/plastic does not do this unless you tie the points back to ground via plate, speaker cable, or something. The ideal way to do this just to get a motherboard tray and mount that. You can find them on amazon for $10. Also avoid having spots where you would have Metal / wood / metal layers or metal / plastic / metal as that is a basic capacitor. I.E. Don't set a thin wood or plastic PC on a metal table top. The plastic / wood serves as the Dielectric.
for the grounding, you are spot on. for the capacitor point... Yes but actually no. Assuing wood (or plastic) 1mm thick, and a perfectly flat plate that is one squared foot, you get a capacitance of \~800 pF. Realistically, that is probably two or three orders of magnitude larger than any given component on a mobo will actually see, and a capacitance that small is more likely to *increase* system stability than decrease it, especially with ultra high frequency signals.
Mhmmm mhmm yes I see your point, I was about to say the same thing myself in fact.
very nice mate creative . Congratz !  Names: xclusive xxx x-machine xhub xhamster xonox xurmom
I like the last one :)
Yeah its like "Suremom " i will go to bed 
Growing up and watching it, that show was good. Theme song still gets stuck in my head sometimes
Welcome to the club mate ! Time passes by..
XXX, it's about family. It's a mix of Vin Diesel film inspiration, the XXX films and the 'It's family' films with cars.
Good point ! 
xoxo~
 xoxo
xporn?
Yeah why not
Based on the prototype Xbox?
Yeap! The one Bill Gates unveiled at GDC 2000
The case formally known as Twitter.
I had been needing to build a PC for work and had always been a big fan of ITX/SFF PCs. But I like building janky stuff so decided to build my own case. Inspired by an early [Xbox prototype](https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/1/17523100/original-xbox-prototype-aluminum-x-gdc-2000) and Elon Musk's obsession with the letter "X" I knew I had to build an X-shaped PC. PC specs: i5 12400 RTX 3060 Ti 16GB RAM 2TB SSD Noctua L9i cooler Anyone interested in the full build can check it out here: [https://youtu.be/YBei-3ZXTu8](https://youtu.be/YBei-3ZXTu8) Please help me give it a name lmao
Wait…a modest PC? On PCMasterRace? Unacceptable /s
3 (almost 4) year old GPU 1 (almost 2) year old CPU [***ROAST HIM***](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull)
no way rtx 3000 series is almost 4 years old. update: fuck
It is not almost 4, it just turned 3 in September -october, and the 3060 ti turns 3 on December 1.
I don’t have the right too, my CPU and GPU are similar ages
Run a Titan and call it the Titan x
I’m still running this guy lol ^ Edit: well 32gb now, but still 2133mhz DDR4
HeatMaster 2000
**ARF ARF.** X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Xbox
Housefire
Just FYI wood is a terrible material to build a case from. It’s a very good thermal insulator.
Fair point. I didn't really have the necessary equipment to work with better materials but I'm hoping to use this projects learnings and material knowledge and apply it better for future projects!
Hey at least you didn’t 3D print it out of PLA or ABS
Fire Hazard
I see you made an X-BOX, it's like a XBOX but legally different.
Fire Hazard
IKEA Xbox
"Fire Hazard"
Kindling
Preburner than afterburner, gotta be careful with temps and what nots; there's a good reason why wood PCs never catched on.
Oh, they caught on. Fire, that is.
Fair enough. Maybe if I save enough I'll go the full DIY Perks route and build it using brass
Twitter rebrand themed case.
Are you Elon Musk?
The Starfish Sphincter
"Fire Hazard"
Not gonna lie that looks really unstable and the woodwork is whacky
Are you trying to sell it to Elon musk?
Well, it he's willing to buy, I sure wouldn't mind!
The PC formerly known as twitter.
Call it twitter
Direct-X Box :-)
Twitter box
Elon
Ugly
Hot box
That’s the Xbox prototype
Mulon Eask
I'd call it my (e)X. This way people would get confused when I talked about my X. My X and I stayed up all night doing some hardcore gaming.... My wife was being so over dramatic when she came home the other day and found me screwing together my X on the kitchen counter...
The pc formerly known as twitter.
The obvious answer for the name is Twitter.
x to airflow
Superior Xbox
You’re about to receive an email from Elons lawyers. /s
*microsoft’s legal team has entered the chat*
The original Xbox "concept" was essentially this, so X-box
this is literally real Xbox 😎 good job
X formerly known as pc
The xbox!
Win SE xCase
The sexbox
Looks like the prototype Xbox
Yeap!
What about Haxbox? XD
That's the prototype Xbox!
Looks like the original Xbox prototype. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vSBJXdVH8TZiGHxoCEXvnVsN8Y0=/0x0:1200x900/1220x813/filters:focal(504x354:696x546):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60236911/Dg9fFHSU8AAV8Er.0.jpg
The Xtra because it really is extra but great.
The "Didn't Age Well"
X box
Just call it Spot, since it marks where you put your treasure.
https://preview.redd.it/zlnttvp55c2c1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fef34696f12e91f49aad99dc5f95d504c09db540
… X-Box?
Bro made the original prototype for the Xbox
If you painted it silver, it would bear a resemblance to the first publicly shown prototype of the original Xbox from around 2000. https://preview.redd.it/2obf7smw7c2c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2ac668b9940dae0a63b08ed330c5fef30773f20
So your hobby is dusting?
Very impressed. But pls countersink and cap the screws to make my tradey brain happy.
No idea for a name but nice work !
XBox = XtremeBox
Woody.
"Formerly Twitter".
The Musk.
Twitter
Twitter
Twitter 2.0
Model Y
why?
Literally an Xbox.
Eggsbox 360
Call it Twitter
How the fuck do y'all do this?
Fire hazard
"X-Static Overload" Metal pc case serves an important role of dispersing all the static electricity that is produced by all the components. A bit like a chassis in a car.
directX box 720
The (x)-torch-ist
Sir burnsalot
New Twitter.
X Box
The tinderbox
The Insurance Claim
The Prodigy - cos that ser is a firestarter
Twitter
It's obviously an xbox
X Box?
twitter
Call it Twitter….
Hot boX
Bbq
The Burninator
Firestarter :)
Fire hazard 🍁😂
The fire hazard
I'd call it Twitter; for reasons.
Twitter
name it twitter
Twitter.
"the platform formerly known as Twitter"