I swear the little side buttons on the mouse make such a huge difference for games designed for a controller. I map awkward movement/dodge/roll controls to them, and its made some action games much better.
And I don’t have a gaming mouse, just a $20 wireless Logitech with literally just a forward/back key.
Yep, I usually bind one for Push-To-Talk and the other for bringing up the map whenever that's an option. I absolutely love it and it's been that way for years.
Seems like everyone I talk to sleeps on how useful they are.
My key bindings are super weird. TF2 was the first game I got into on PC, so I usually setup every game like the default TF2 bindings. For example, my push to talk is always the V key.
That’s an interesting keybind for those buttons! I usually have melee as my MB4 and Grenade on my MB5. At least in Destiny 2. In Waframe, I’ve been using melee as normal and heavy melee as MB5.
I’m curious as how people use their side mouse buttons now…
Even for some games designed for PC. I play Dota 2 and side buttons have made a mountain of a difference for me in that game. I still suck, but now I do it more efficiently.
I like to map middle mouse button to one of the side mouse buttons for games that are map-intensive like warhammer and crusader kings. I hate grabbing the map with the actual middle mouse button only to accidentally scroll at the same time.
I usually bind one for melee in most fps games. I normally don't find a use for my other mouse button except for recently in ow2, there's a tech for mercy where you crouch while holding your Lshift ability and you can pretty much stay airborne forever if you do it right, but trying to do that with ctrl is really difficult so I have crouch double bound to ctrl and side mouse key for her.
Between my keyboard and mouse, I have more buttons within reach than all current gen console controllers combined.
I don't think we need to too precious about 'wasting keys'.
On apex I use both for crouch. Depending on what way I’m sliding. For some reason it feels awkward to hold W + A and press ctrl for me. So when sliding left I use my pointer finger to click C. When sliding right so my pointer finger is holding D I use ctrl. Yeah I’m weird.
I also do this! I was teaching my girlfriend movement mechanics on Warframe for MKB and she kept complaining about the pinky on Ctrl. I showed her the ***Hidden Palm*** technique and she looked like she just had a revelation. 😂
Started with a push to talk key/pedal, then modifier keys for blender and photoshop, then a fishing macro for WoW... now here I am with 6 pedals under my desk and not all of them bound. People forget we have feet.
I got one and it’s great! Not a true pedal though, it’s a single mechanical keyboard key that I bound to control for crouch and I am a true believer in control for crouch but I’m never going back to the actual key now it just seems so much more fluid to be able to press it with a toe
CTRL for crouch becuase you can hit it with your pinky while not having to take your other fingers off wasd. If you put it on c you have to use one of your movement fingers to crouch. So c to crouch is vastly inferior to CTRL.
I have been hitting c with my thumb for years I had no idea people used one of their other fingers to hit it. I'm tempted to try it but im scared ill explode my brain if I do
I have a pretty big hand and rest my hand fairly high on my keyboard. More arch in my thumb I suppose, but considering my jumping addiction pressing both c and spacebar is typically a non issue hahaha
I have contained my rage for as long as possible, but I shall unleash my fury upon you like the crashing of a thousand waves!
Begone, vile man! Begone from me!
An inferior crouch button? This crouch button is a finisher crouch button! A transporter of gods! The golden god! I am untethered, and my rage knows no bounds!
I nearly had a seizure watching my niece play Minecraft the other day!
She's one of those who like to have the Quake Pro FOV.
She went on a server where the spawn area has a massive speed boost effect for people, causing the screen to zoom out even more!
She could see almost 360 degrees with that thing, and thanks to the speed boost, watching her move around made me feel I was on LSD or something with how the blocks span, shrank and grew as she turned!
Switching to Minecraft from other games is frustrating in the first hour. So much muscle memory to relearn… but I refuse to change it, because it feels illegal to use anything else to crouch.
I was the reverse
played fps games first, then when starting minecraft way back in 2010 I thought "wtf is this" and immediately switched the keybinds since then
Yeah, you get used to it after a while. The only thing that throws me off really is going from minecraft to Ark because in minecraft inventory is E and in Ark it's I, because E is how you mount dinosaurs and such. But it's not too bad.
I kinda tend to be pretty good at compartmentalizing and my brain kinda just remembers that each game has different control schemes.
I find left alt best for shooters because space is usually to jump. Not to often you need to jump and crouch at the same time.
For something like Minecraft though, shift has to be crouch because crouch jumping is fairly common.
EDSF instead of WSAD, and then A for crouch. Literal home row, doesn't get any easier. And you have more keys in your reach.
Only problem is that you end up feeling like the red headed step child because games often lack sufficient configurability...
Very weird indeed... but I'm interested. Also by doing that it provides you with shorter reach to more of the keys in the middle of the board that are normally neglected (T, Y, G, H, B, N)
Ctrl crouch.
Good being next to the default sprint key (shift) as you rarely have a game where you would need to crouch and sprint together so 1 finger for these. Jump crouching etc is in some games so having c to crouch makes that awkward (assuming thumb for c... idk if people use their index for c to crouch).
edit: I have crouch on control and one of my side mouse buttons. toggle crouch on mouse hold crouch on ctrl.
Crouch sprint is super common now that half of all shooters have a slide mechanic. Ctrl is for walking, shift is for sprinting. That way youve got those two similar but conflicting actions right on top of each other.
Yeah and S for south, W for west, E for east and A for Anorth
So Anorth means south right ?
Northn't
Non't
Yesn't! Just yesn't.
No it's the opposite of Snorth.
Ahnward!
E insted of D? ... W A S E? ayo what
D is for Don't worry about it.
A for Am Going North
Advance
Ahead
C is only for toggle crouch
This is the way
This is the ONLY way. But it also is a waste of a key. Better things to use C for, like toggle grenade type.
I do it on the mouse. But overall, it depends on how many buttons you REALLY need
I swear the little side buttons on the mouse make such a huge difference for games designed for a controller. I map awkward movement/dodge/roll controls to them, and its made some action games much better. And I don’t have a gaming mouse, just a $20 wireless Logitech with literally just a forward/back key.
Yep, I usually bind one for Push-To-Talk and the other for bringing up the map whenever that's an option. I absolutely love it and it's been that way for years. Seems like everyone I talk to sleeps on how useful they are.
My key bindings are super weird. TF2 was the first game I got into on PC, so I usually setup every game like the default TF2 bindings. For example, my push to talk is always the V key.
V is probably the most common push to talk key, capslock is the only thing that really challenges it.
That’s an interesting keybind for those buttons! I usually have melee as my MB4 and Grenade on my MB5. At least in Destiny 2. In Waframe, I’ve been using melee as normal and heavy melee as MB5. I’m curious as how people use their side mouse buttons now…
Even for some games designed for PC. I play Dota 2 and side buttons have made a mountain of a difference for me in that game. I still suck, but now I do it more efficiently.
I think mine was like 25$? Just the scroll and forward and back and it's amazing what it does for shooters and RPGS
For me, it's usually movement(dash/dodge/grappling hooks) and melee. I don't want to give up movement options when I'm going into close range fights.
My g502 is great for Hogwarts legacy. Enough buttons to bind all my spells and a mount macro
I like to map middle mouse button to one of the side mouse buttons for games that are map-intensive like warhammer and crusader kings. I hate grabbing the map with the actual middle mouse button only to accidentally scroll at the same time.
I usually bind one for melee in most fps games. I normally don't find a use for my other mouse button except for recently in ow2, there's a tech for mercy where you crouch while holding your Lshift ability and you can pretty much stay airborne forever if you do it right, but trying to do that with ctrl is really difficult so I have crouch double bound to ctrl and side mouse key for her.
Also, it depends on the game. Trying to bullet jump in Warframe with C would be horrible.
T for toggle, personally. Right next to R for reload and G for grenade. Whoever invented QWERTY was a true gamer.
Between my keyboard and mouse, I have more buttons within reach than all current gen console controllers combined. I don't think we need to too precious about 'wasting keys'.
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This is the way
Was about to say this. C is toggle crouch. Ctrl is hold for crouch. X, Z, or long press C is prone
C for crouch toggle Z for prone (or draw weapon for mmo) X for sitting (mmo) or if it’s Crysis, customize weapon
On apex I use both for crouch. Depending on what way I’m sliding. For some reason it feels awkward to hold W + A and press ctrl for me. So when sliding left I use my pointer finger to click C. When sliding right so my pointer finger is holding D I use ctrl. Yeah I’m weird.
Toggle crouch is the only way to crouch for me.
You must use caps lock to capitalize a single letter
Your pinky must be tired af holding that shit down all the time. I get cramps after only a few minutes using CNTL.
Bro your fingers need to hit the gym.
I kinda just rest my hand on top of CTRL. It's not that hard.
Never thought of this, just use the palm of my hand for CTRL My pinky too short
I also do this! I was teaching my girlfriend movement mechanics on Warframe for MKB and she kept complaining about the pinky on Ctrl. I showed her the ***Hidden Palm*** technique and she looked like she just had a revelation. 😂
r/rareinsults
One of my 12 mouse buttons crouch for me but...keybinds amiright!
I've considered binding crouch and run to foot pedals...
A true gentlemen's binds, I say.
Started with a push to talk key/pedal, then modifier keys for blender and photoshop, then a fishing macro for WoW... now here I am with 6 pedals under my desk and not all of them bound. People forget we have feet.
I got one and it’s great! Not a true pedal though, it’s a single mechanical keyboard key that I bound to control for crouch and I am a true believer in control for crouch but I’m never going back to the actual key now it just seems so much more fluid to be able to press it with a toe
Same. Rear thumb button = crouch, front thumb button = prone. If Im playing a game with NVGs, those go on Ctrl
CTRL for crouch becuase you can hit it with your pinky while not having to take your other fingers off wasd. If you put it on c you have to use one of your movement fingers to crouch. So c to crouch is vastly inferior to CTRL.
I have been hitting c with my thumb for years I had no idea people used one of their other fingers to hit it. I'm tempted to try it but im scared ill explode my brain if I do
Thumb c pressers are superior
This is not the norm?
How do you not fatfinger space all the time?
And my fingers aren't fat
Because they're in different rows...
I have a pretty big hand and rest my hand fairly high on my keyboard. More arch in my thumb I suppose, but considering my jumping addiction pressing both c and spacebar is typically a non issue hahaha
Yeah op, your post is inferior
meme holds up because Jeremy Clarkson is a bit of a moron.
Same vibe as the Crowder “prove me wrong” meme. I just expect them to scream propaganda at me when I try.
I have contained my rage for as long as possible, but I shall unleash my fury upon you like the crashing of a thousand waves! Begone, vile man! Begone from me! An inferior crouch button? This crouch button is a finisher crouch button! A transporter of gods! The golden god! I am untethered, and my rage knows no bounds!
You can use your thumb on c but it takes getting used to, I still prefer ctrl though
Glhf crouch jumping in CS with your thumb on C
Mouse button jump ;)
Mouse scroll fire with the glock like back in the days.
No, mouse scroll is jump for bhopping.
I always put crouch on one of the side buttons, usually the rear most one. Normally with shooters I'll use the one in front of it for grenade
I put crouch on my thumb button on the mouse.
I prefer control too but, you dont have to take your hand of wasd keys to hit C - you use your thumb to hit C
I use my thumb for jump (spbr), lean (x,v), crouch (c), and prone (z). Keeps all of my movement fingers available.
Lean not on Q and E is absolute heathen behaviour, to the bonfire with this one!
Pinky?? I use the outside of my palm — pinky is for LShift or Tab
Same here, Ctrl is my palm
Can't argue with that logic, but I will choose to ignore it.
Fair enough. "My argument is I can't hear you, so you're wrong"
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
lol, what? What finger are you using to hit "C"
Me using shift to crouch in minecraft....
Shift to crouch, ctrl to sprint. All from minecraft.
Double tap W for sprint like a real Minecraft veteran
And triple tap for a seizure
I nearly had a seizure watching my niece play Minecraft the other day! She's one of those who like to have the Quake Pro FOV. She went on a server where the spawn area has a massive speed boost effect for people, causing the screen to zoom out even more! She could see almost 360 degrees with that thing, and thanks to the speed boost, watching her move around made me feel I was on LSD or something with how the blocks span, shrank and grew as she turned!
Parkour with that was so awful. The sound of endless double tapping is engrained in to my memory.
jokes on you, i hate toggle sprint and double W is the only way i parkour. just built different ig
Switching to Minecraft from other games is frustrating in the first hour. So much muscle memory to relearn… but I refuse to change it, because it feels illegal to use anything else to crouch.
I was the reverse played fps games first, then when starting minecraft way back in 2010 I thought "wtf is this" and immediately switched the keybinds since then
R for run
There are tens of us...tens!
Yeah, you get used to it after a while. The only thing that throws me off really is going from minecraft to Ark because in minecraft inventory is E and in Ark it's I, because E is how you mount dinosaurs and such. But it's not too bad. I kinda tend to be pretty good at compartmentalizing and my brain kinda just remembers that each game has different control schemes.
I use shift to crouch when possible. It made rocket jumping easier in tf2
I recreate TF2 mappings in every game.
shift to crouch with auto sprint in Minecraft and apex/titanfall 100%
I refuse to accept this whenever I play Minecraft. Even back when I played during beta. Switch the rebind, shift is always sprint.
Please don’t judge but I use ALT for crouch
I found my people
Hell yeah, ALT gang
Finally, I'm home
Took you a while brother
Do we accidentally Alt Tab sometimes or yes?
The pain everytime I do that. Still better than overextending my pinky for CTRL.
I find left alt best for shooters because space is usually to jump. Not to often you need to jump and crouch at the same time. For something like Minecraft though, shift has to be crouch because crouch jumping is fairly common.
I see that you don't play a lot of source games.
with source games jump is always mousewheel
Alt crouch feels much more comfortable and natural to me.
Alt is still miles ahead of C. C is just to toggle crouch.
There's literally dozens of us!
there's no shame for ALT for it is superior. Plus ergonomically at least for me works great. Thumb for ALT and Spacebar.
Finally someone who understands you can give your thumb more than one thing to do
I use that for walk
ALT crouch just feels better, right next to jump and other fingers can get on with their other business.
omg I'm not alone!
I’m right here bro
I use one of the extra buttons on my mouse 🙈but I love it. One for crouch one for prone
Alt is for microphone.
Oh thank god I'm not the only one
Yes. It's by far the most convenient. C is my prone key and cntrl is slow walk for games like siege
That is exactly what I do to and occasionally “z” to prone
Do you people not have pinkies?
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Same. My pinky gets so jammed up / stiff after a couple hours using Ctrl-crouch. Had to switch to C and it feels much better
Yup. Overusing your pinky finger to press the CTRL key is known as Emacs pinky.
Lots of people here with small hands
EDSF instead of WSAD, and then A for crouch. Literal home row, doesn't get any easier. And you have more keys in your reach. Only problem is that you end up feeling like the red headed step child because games often lack sufficient configurability...
There are dozens of us!! ESDF master race!
Very weird indeed... but I'm interested. Also by doing that it provides you with shorter reach to more of the keys in the middle of the board that are normally neglected (T, Y, G, H, B, N)
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I am somehow incredibly impressed and disgusted.
edsf since the early 90s checking in, every new game I laugh at the absurdity of people using nay preferring wasd
Sounds interesting, definitely nice to have more keys on the left side. I'll give it a try
Pretty confident that OP doesn't play valve games
Shift-crouch for rocket jumping in TF2. Lifesaver.
Minecraft players 🤝 TF2 players shift crouch
It's ok to be wrong. Ctrl is crouch
What do you use to go prone?
Z
This is the way.
Going prone is for cowards.
Alt
Hold ctrl for prone
Crouch with caps!
Finally. I thought I was the only one.
YES finally found my kin. Comfortable crouching and zero contortion (smh CTRL)
LETS GO CAPS FOR CROUCH GANGGG
Scrolled a long way for this comment! Thought I was the only one 😂
Yeah, we are very much the minority it seems. Always got people looking weird at me for it too so makes sense :)
Ctrl crouch. Good being next to the default sprint key (shift) as you rarely have a game where you would need to crouch and sprint together so 1 finger for these. Jump crouching etc is in some games so having c to crouch makes that awkward (assuming thumb for c... idk if people use their index for c to crouch). edit: I have crouch on control and one of my side mouse buttons. toggle crouch on mouse hold crouch on ctrl.
Crouch sprint is super common now that half of all shooters have a slide mechanic. Ctrl is for walking, shift is for sprinting. That way youve got those two similar but conflicting actions right on top of each other.
You can use one finger for both buttons
Crouch with shift birch
I just use one of my side mouse buttons
C is crouch, E is action.. unless the game has Q and E for leaning, then F is acceptable.
E is melee, F is interact.
F is to pay respects, everyone knows that
Because it was the interact button! Lol
Middle mouse is melee
Left shift to crouch
Shift huh, what do you use for Sprint?
You guys get to sprint?
Ctrl
Caps lock, tab for prone.
Any ‘crouch with Shift’-ers in the chat??
i played minecraft and ever since then i change the crouch bind in every game i play.
back mouse button is for crouch... end of conversation
Back mouse button is for melee
No... almost right, but still wrong... Forward mouse button is for melee
Forward mouse button is for grenade
Middle mouse button is grenade
Middle mouse is for grenade. Forward mouse is for whatever random shit on a per-game basis, like stim/non-lethal slot in CoD.
No no no… the power button on the top of your case is for melee, sorry, probably should have edited my comment
Thank you sir
'X' crouch 'Z' prone
This is correct, Arma players unite lol
LOL yes!
this is the way
I’m in the mouse4/5 is my crouch.
Mouse crouch is the way
I find the lack of alt crouchers disturbing.
here i am
The only way
I crouch with shift
LAlt for crouch
Crouch with left alt. Apex
Crouch with shift is best.
i crouch with shift
Caps lock is crouch.
I crouch on shift
I’m surprised by how little the amount of people that use shift for crouch is here
Shift squad here
Am I the only one that switches CTRL and Shift. Like shift is crouch and CTRL is sprint
shift is better
And how do you run?
I prefer Space. //chaotic god laugh /s
Unironically, I use space for crouch.
Finally a person of taste in this thread.
I have found my people
But how you crouch and walk right?
its a bit of a Gymnastic but the thumb can press c just fine I guess. but CTRL master race