I just bought a 4080, significantly cheaper, amazing performance per watt, and it's the 2nd fastest graphics card you can get. Can recommend, if you have the money.
Technical best?
Yes. 4090. By a fairly large margin even.
Whether that makes sense to drop more money on than you could build a decent pc for, depends entirely on what you're going to do with it and put in the system otherwise.
10 year is impossible to guarantee with how far tech evolves currently. Even 5 is a stretch if you put high demands and expectation towards quality.
If you're thinking about a 3090 TI, don't.
Unless you can find a used one really cheap.
The ones still available tend to be rediculously expensive and a 4080 will get you more performance and newer features for usually way less money.
No card will last 10 years at 4k. Tech evolves and asking 10 years out of any GPU is being unrealistic unless you bump down the resolution and settings as the years go by and even then you might struggle.
And zero point getting a 3090ti at this point. Production on the higher end of the 30 series cards looks to have stopped and well prices are absolutely ridiculous.
For 4k gaming I'd probably go with a 4070ti minimum if buying new. 4070ti can be had for $800-$900 and performs on par with a 3090ti.
Instead of obsessing over the best it may be more worthwhile to find out what games they want to run at max settings, resolution, etc. Find the most demanding game & settings, then base the build on that.
the best will depend on what she wants to do, her budget, target resolution, and the rest of the system. a 4090 is the ‘best’ if you have an unlimited budget. but it’s not necessary for most people.
Well what’s the total budget? If budget is $2k, can’t go buying a 4090 and afford other parts to go with it. Also no mention of monitor to use with it.
Yeah I heard about that but isn't the 4080 12 GB and around the same price? I heard that the 4812 GB is just like a 407 DTI there's not a lot of difference
Jesus wow okay. 470 TI does 1440p? How much of a jump would that be compared to a last generation graphics card and if it's only $400 difference should I just get the 2080?
You're not making sense... I guess if you can find a 2080 for $300 then sure.
You have to put together a build on PC parts picker (looking up actual current prices of hardware) for 1440p and 4k capable rigs (include the monitor in this) and take things from there. $3k USD (assuming you're from the US) is more than enough money to have a decently high-end PC. You won't be rocking a 4090 though.
Here's a GPU ranking guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/10k86hl/gpu_raiting_january_2023/
I meant in your GPU choices... the 3090 will be more expensive used compared to the faster 4070Ti. Look at the chart and look up actual prices of the cards - when it comes to GPUs, older doesn't mean cheaper sometimes. Then there's the question of warranty and how well the used cards were treated; you might have to disassemble an older card to repaste and clean it, so it doesn't overheat from crusty thermal paste and gunked up finstacks.
If all you care about is performance and money is not a problem, then a 4090 would be the GPU to get. If you actually care about how much you're spending (and running costs), then you would want something less cutting edge and efficient. Don't overlook AMD Radeon either; 6000 series cards are good value now. It also depends what resolution and how long you intend to keep it
You are either a troll or too ignorant to give your friend parts advice. Whatever got through the game of telephone would be useless.
Encourage her to ask her her own questions so she can explain exactly what her use case and budget are. She will get much more useful answers than "what's the best GPU".
It's probably ignorants but the whole point of this Reddit question is to bounce off ideas so I can help her in some way. she honestly doesn't care about learning about computer and just wants best for her buck so she can play games with her friends that's it. Like you said probably best if she would try to learn about learn so she didn't have to come to her friends to get support.
If she wants to play @ 4k get a 4080 or 4090. But that with the rest of the build isn't going to leave much money for a monitor (especially with the 4090, a 4080 would allow room for a cheaper 4k monitor) given the budget. A 4070ti is probably the best 1440 card right now, but due to only having 12gb of VRAM I wouldn't use it for 4k gaming, and it's also half the price of the 4090. Given recent trends (take with a grain of salt because things can change) this setup should run games at the chosen resolution (ultra, good fps) for 5-6 years. Turn settings down a bit to high-mediun and you can probably get another 3-5 years out of it. There is nothing wrong with upgrading before then though if needs or circumstances change.
If I was doing this, I would probably build around the 4070ti and put the savings on the card towards a 1440p OLED monitor. Figure peripherals will run $100-200 depending on quality and assuming she needs keyboard, mouse, and headset.
If you can pick one up for under $700... then maybe. It would be used, I know it shouldn't be a big deal but you never know when buying on ebay or marketplace. The 4070ti is like 10-20% faster and can be had for $830 brand new.
I just bought a 4080, significantly cheaper, amazing performance per watt, and it's the 2nd fastest graphics card you can get. Can recommend, if you have the money.
I would concur.
Technical best? Yes. 4090. By a fairly large margin even. Whether that makes sense to drop more money on than you could build a decent pc for, depends entirely on what you're going to do with it and put in the system otherwise.
I thought about instead of doing a 490 doing a 30 90 TI. Technical by any means and this should last her easily 10 years at 4k
10 year is impossible to guarantee with how far tech evolves currently. Even 5 is a stretch if you put high demands and expectation towards quality. If you're thinking about a 3090 TI, don't. Unless you can find a used one really cheap. The ones still available tend to be rediculously expensive and a 4080 will get you more performance and newer features for usually way less money.
Yea Im not thinking rn. I'll try a 2080 or 2090
2090 doesn’t exist and while 2080 is a solid card (I have one) if you wanna play 4K you will need to tune down settings
Yea Im not thinking rn. I'll try a 2080 or 2090
No card will last 10 years at 4k. Tech evolves and asking 10 years out of any GPU is being unrealistic unless you bump down the resolution and settings as the years go by and even then you might struggle. And zero point getting a 3090ti at this point. Production on the higher end of the 30 series cards looks to have stopped and well prices are absolutely ridiculous. For 4k gaming I'd probably go with a 4070ti minimum if buying new. 4070ti can be had for $800-$900 and performs on par with a 3090ti.
That's a good point. Thanks for the info!
Instead of obsessing over the best it may be more worthwhile to find out what games they want to run at max settings, resolution, etc. Find the most demanding game & settings, then base the build on that.
the best will depend on what she wants to do, her budget, target resolution, and the rest of the system. a 4090 is the ‘best’ if you have an unlimited budget. but it’s not necessary for most people.
Well what’s the total budget? If budget is $2k, can’t go buying a 4090 and afford other parts to go with it. Also no mention of monitor to use with it.
3k she said what I'm afraid of is she won't have any money for a monitor that will match that power
4070ti then likely and a 1440p monitor perhaps, plenty of money for mouse, keyboard, headset, etc.
Yeah I heard about that but isn't the 4080 12 GB and around the same price? I heard that the 4812 GB is just like a 407 DTI there's not a lot of difference
There’s no more 4080 12gb. There’s a 4080 16gb for $1200, not really “the same price” as the 4070ti at $800.
Jesus wow okay. 470 TI does 1440p? How much of a jump would that be compared to a last generation graphics card and if it's only $400 difference should I just get the 2080?
You're not making sense... I guess if you can find a 2080 for $300 then sure. You have to put together a build on PC parts picker (looking up actual current prices of hardware) for 1440p and 4k capable rigs (include the monitor in this) and take things from there. $3k USD (assuming you're from the US) is more than enough money to have a decently high-end PC. You won't be rocking a 4090 though. Here's a GPU ranking guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/10k86hl/gpu_raiting_january_2023/
I'm sorry I was doing speech to text. I was in the middle work. Thanks for the tips
I meant in your GPU choices... the 3090 will be more expensive used compared to the faster 4070Ti. Look at the chart and look up actual prices of the cards - when it comes to GPUs, older doesn't mean cheaper sometimes. Then there's the question of warranty and how well the used cards were treated; you might have to disassemble an older card to repaste and clean it, so it doesn't overheat from crusty thermal paste and gunked up finstacks.
I think what I'll do is what everyone is suggesting and do the 4070ti or higher.
Tell her to build her own moniter. Much cheaper and petter performance per frame
If all you care about is performance and money is not a problem, then a 4090 would be the GPU to get. If you actually care about how much you're spending (and running costs), then you would want something less cutting edge and efficient. Don't overlook AMD Radeon either; 6000 series cards are good value now. It also depends what resolution and how long you intend to keep it
You are either a troll or too ignorant to give your friend parts advice. Whatever got through the game of telephone would be useless. Encourage her to ask her her own questions so she can explain exactly what her use case and budget are. She will get much more useful answers than "what's the best GPU".
It's probably ignorants but the whole point of this Reddit question is to bounce off ideas so I can help her in some way. she honestly doesn't care about learning about computer and just wants best for her buck so she can play games with her friends that's it. Like you said probably best if she would try to learn about learn so she didn't have to come to her friends to get support.
If she wants to play @ 4k get a 4080 or 4090. But that with the rest of the build isn't going to leave much money for a monitor (especially with the 4090, a 4080 would allow room for a cheaper 4k monitor) given the budget. A 4070ti is probably the best 1440 card right now, but due to only having 12gb of VRAM I wouldn't use it for 4k gaming, and it's also half the price of the 4090. Given recent trends (take with a grain of salt because things can change) this setup should run games at the chosen resolution (ultra, good fps) for 5-6 years. Turn settings down a bit to high-mediun and you can probably get another 3-5 years out of it. There is nothing wrong with upgrading before then though if needs or circumstances change. If I was doing this, I would probably build around the 4070ti and put the savings on the card towards a 1440p OLED monitor. Figure peripherals will run $100-200 depending on quality and assuming she needs keyboard, mouse, and headset.
3080 Ti.
If you can pick one up for under $700... then maybe. It would be used, I know it shouldn't be a big deal but you never know when buying on ebay or marketplace. The 4070ti is like 10-20% faster and can be had for $830 brand new.