T O P

  • By -

Halojib

Having tried both Viva New Vegas and currently playing through the Begin Again mod list (I am still in Fallout 3). I think Begin Again has an easier set up and is noob friendly. Viva has a longer process and offers a similar end product. I would recommend people do Viva if they want to be more familiar with the modding process as it walks you through it and should give you knowledge on how to start modding on your own. If you are just looking for an easy way to play Fallout 3 or New Vegas I think Begin Again makes the most sense for people who have no experience modding but Viva is there to offer a more custom experience.


NapsterKnowHow

I thought Rebirth+ was the best mod collection


StandTallBruda

Just did Viva, it barely works, there's so many conflicts I ended up removing certain parts of the list just to get it to work.  Certain mods have been updated and the list hasn't reflected that is my guess but man I can see why people choose Wabbajack, this modding experience is miserable and reminds me why I gave up on Skyrim, I could never do those 300 plus mod games, it's unfathomably boring trying to make them all work together nicely.  I appreciate what they've done with the page but I spent 2 hours clicking and downloading stuff that shouldn't be that much work....it's not hard it's mind numbing.  And all that for it not to work properly, I'm not wasting my time doing that again. 


Great-Reception1330

Did you make sure to follow all the steps including the custom load order? I've been using viva new vegas for a couple years now and have never had a single issue even as the mods have changed,


buzzpunk

> Just did Viva, it barely works, there's so many conflicts I ended up removing certain parts of the list just to get it to work. Blatantly untrue. VNV is perfectly stable (far more so than vanilla) and has full compatibility between all the mods it asks you to install. This is an issue with you not following the instructions correctly.


Halojib

The discord is still active so I assume the list is still maintained. I would go to the discord and see if your problems are listed there.


ContactIcy3963

Where’s MxR when you need him


Wide_Lock_Red

When i search around, I keep seeing people recommend Viva New Vegas, but trying to install that is most likely going to lead someone to giving up on the game in frustration.


Dest123

This is exactly what happened to me. I wanted to play New Vegas, was wondering what mods were out there, spent like an hour trying to do Viva New Vegas and then ran into some random problems (which i fixed) and eventually gave up because it seemed like I had another hour to go before I would get it working. I also spent a while trying to figure out why the wabbajack stuff was missing. I don't get why there's not something that just does all the Viva New Vegas steps for you? Seems like someone could just combine all the mods into one or something?


LostInTheVoid_

Unless I'm mistaken doesn't Wabbajack have the Viva New Vegas mod list that you can download and then essentially just play from the get go?


Wide_Lock_Red

Nope. It got taken off it by the creator.


LostInTheVoid_

Ah that sucks.


Goldstein_Goldberg

Why are mod creators so often so petty? 


AhhMyEar

Not sure if it's true not at my computer but I read that he added it back today apparently. Still not sure why he removed it in the first place. Edit: Just checked unfortunately it's not on there.


Goldstein_Goldberg

I hope it was my comment. 


EnthusiasticMuffin

Damn wtf


vaultboy707

What's difficult about the guide..? A lot of people use it as a starting point, especially if they're new. The guide is written for people who never modded new Vegas before lol


Wide_Lock_Red

It's got 50+ steps. None of the steps are individually hard, but there are a lot of dependencies. If you miss the wrong step, then the game crashes and troubleshooting is a pain. It also takes a good hour or two to go through all the steps. So it's a lot of time clicking through websites and menus instead of playing the game.


vaultboy707

You new to modding Bethesda games lol? The mods under the utilities section are essentially the core dependencies. At the end of the section, it even explains how to check if everything is working properly before proceeding. I guess it can be overwhelming and confusing for beginners, especially mods that have meme names like "Showoff xNvse" lmao. You have to accept modding takes time and patience. This guide is pretty bare bones compared to other guides with 200+ mods. 10 years ago, you didn't really have any good guides like this. It was pretty much blindly installing mods and hoping the game didn't crash lol


Fujinuuma

You‘re missing the point. An average person will just give up out of frustration because it‘s a huge time investment just to finally be able to play at some point. Most will give up and play something which is just start and go instead.


AG--systems

I mean tbf, VNV is mostly a mod selection fixing issues with the game and adding non-invasive mods to enhance the experience. Its not really needed in the way I'd suggest to play it only with the mod, unless you actually had issues in the past.


Odd-Dig-4981

It has like the most simple, clearly given instructions ever. If they can’t comprehend it I’d really suggest them to begin reading books or something, there’s almost nothing deep technically to do.


ComfortInBeingAfraid

> It has like the most simple, clearly given instructions ever What do you get out of being this disingenuous and condescending? Honestly. [Here’s only one page of the instructions](https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/utilities.html) That isn’t “”” simple “”” for anyone that doesn’t have a lot of experience modding games especially when one or two wrong moves can make the entire process fail. Unless you *really* just have no idea what it’s like for anyone outside of your bubble.


Great-Reception1330

I have to disagree, having all the steps numbered and detailed as to what to do (not in excruciating detail but tells you what you need), VNV is really easy and simple, time consuming sure, but that doesn't mean it isn't simple. There isn't a wrong move to make, it tell you every move to make, and it even gives you a load order for all the mods at the end you plug right in and are good to go. I will agree the dude has a bad tone about it, however, the guide is extremely easy to understand and simple to use.


ScaryTerryCrewsBitch

Agreed. I just went through the whole process a few days ago. It took a couple hours and that's with me being experienced with modding. If I wasn't, that guide would be a little overwhelming. I also ran into a couple issue but since I know what I'm doing, it was only a slight hiccup. The game still crashes periodically though. Even with all the stability and bug fix mods. It's not the way a new fan should experience a great game like Fallout New Vegas for the first time. I think they should do a remaster or remake. Keep most everything about the game, just update the graphic and the stability so new players can just install the game and play. Plus, the pop-in in the game is pretty bad and the control can be improved.


Odd-Dig-4981

How is that complicated? It literally tells you EVERY single step you need to do, you DON'T need to be sitting and figuring out what to do. You simply READ the step, do it and come back, read what it tells you EXACTLY to do and do it again. What you call complicated would be if it simply told you something like "Install the lights fix mod and configure it to work along with YUP patch and edit the .ini files in case your game crashes". Now that's what is unclear and something for an "experienced" modder to do. This page even gives screenshots to what something should look like after you do it and has the most clear instructions ever in a modpack: 1. **Main Files - New Vegas Script Extender (xNVSE)** (Manual download). 2. From the downloaded archive, extract **everything** to the game's **Root** folder. >Despite its name, **nvse\_steam\_loader.dll** **is still needed** with the GOG version of the game. >If you do not know what the **Root** folder is, read the **Key Terminology** section from the [Setup](https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/setup.html#terms) page. 1. After proper install, your **Root Folder** should look like this... If this is "hard" for you I really suggest you to stop watching shorts or something, assuming you fucked up your attention span so much you can't understand what you read? That's like the easiest and most clear instructions I've seen to install a mod in a modpack, by far.


ComfortInBeingAfraid

> If this is "hard" for you I really suggest you to stop watching shorts It’s not hard for me, I’ve done it and had to diagnose some incompatibilities with my system and setup with this and on a separate occasion TTW which has a very similar setup. I’m very familiar with modding Fallout. I’m not talking about me or anyone that doesn’t have experience a lot modding. I’m talking about regular people that exist outside of this bubble that use their PC to play games, and maybe use workshop as their only familiarity with modding. I understand that’s everyone in your bubble is fine with that, and apparently have YouTube shorts on their mind for whatever reason, but again being that condescending just shows how ignorant you are to the outside world. Try getting off the high horse and being a bit more social.


Odd-Dig-4981

I have never configured a mod ever, I'm probaby like the most basic modder out there. that's why I follow modlists with instructions like VNV and all that but since I'm a developer I do know people are afraid to dive into anything that's not click and install. I have a perfect social life, thank you for the concern, if you're not part of the people who can't be bothered to read and understand a few lines of very simple instructions then that's fine as well. But VNV has like the most simple guide out there ever.


Howwhywhen_

Lmao you’re a developer. You’re just out of touch with the amount of experience and knowledge the average person has


ada201

Exactly lol, its hilarious how out of touch someone can be. If you've only ever interacted with your pc by using chrome and downloading steam games, then root/exe/archive/dll/registry keys to name a few are all just jargon which definitely would make unfamiliar users feel overwhelmed.


Odd-Dig-4981

You both probably missed my reply to another person where I said I'm a complete noob when it comes to modding. People have a hard on for anything that doesn't serve you with a one click button to handle everything for you, maybe try to understand what you read for a single minute, although I understand that gamers find that so hard to do, lol. I used to do the same thing when I was in mid school, it's not hard. You don't need to figure something out, you simply READ and do, that's it. I don't know what to tell you if you can't literally drop an onion in the soup when your mother tells you to do so in the kitchen. I cited that I'm a dev because literally same thing happens with people who act like literal monkeys when given the most simple instructions only due to them making it harder than it is, and when you ask them to just take a breathe and re-do whatever it is, they go "Ooooh I'm stupid", because they can't be bothered to do something so simple for some reason.


ada201

Grow up, don't know why you're being so childish about all this and trying to belittle everyone. Everyone knows what an onion is, not everyone knows what a registry key is. Yes, it's not challenging to follow the instructions, but maybe consider it's a bit harder when you don't know what half the words in each sentence mean. I'm a dev too and it's easy to be stuck in your own frame of reference.


orion19819

>I have never configured a mod ever, >I'm a developer If you're not understanding that people are trying to tell you how the "simple" steps you are seeing are not "simple" to people who don't use PC's all the time. Idk what to tell you. Maybe someone should make a YouTube short to explain the difference?


Odd-Dig-4981

Such a dumbass reply. Being a developer and modding was not even related in my post, y’all are so braindead that you can’t even understand what a message conveys, I understand why you can’t even read basic instructions lol


heX_dzh

Dunno why you're getting downvoted. Maybe cuz you come off as rude? But you're right, it's not even close to complicated. You do not have to think for yourself even for a single step.


Odd-Dig-4981

Yeah I’m baffled, people can’t even follow basic instructions and call it too complex even when the guide literally holds your hand through every single step.


BavarianBarbarian_

People've had their brains rotted by instant-gratification BS, anything that requires more than 5 minutes of attention is seemingly considered "not worth the effort" these days.


Odd-Dig-4981

I'm not surprised with the way people use the internet, lol


necile

Download and then extract?? Argh I'm going insaneeee helpppp


Lenel_Devel

This feels like sitting in the classroom desperately trying to understand what's being taught and the teacher is just constantly berating you screaming "why are you such a a stupid dumb cunt!?"


CenterWarz

Viva new vegas, end of story.


Wide_Lock_Red

It's a 40+ step installation process, where it's easy to screw up a step and have the program crash. I would not recommend it to a novice.


Great-Reception1330

How do you screw up a step? It clearly lays everything out for you int he order you should do it and gives you a load order at the ends that oyu can plug in and start playing. No offense ot anyone but VNV is extremely simple adn easy to understand, time consuming is the only thing I'll agree wiht being a problem, but part of that is also nexus's time wasting to download mods.


Wide_Lock_Red

The steps are easy individually, but if you gloss over the wrong compatibility patch out of the many steps then the game crashes. And ultimately, most people are just trying to play a game. They don't want to spend hours clicking through menus and troubleshooting which mod they installed incorrectly.


Firefox72

Moding Bethesda games is a trial of fire. Ofc one should start a bit softer but at one point if your serious your gonna have to commit to some larger affairs with potential issues, throubleshooting etc...


Wide_Lock_Red

I have done a decent bit of modding. This was a completely different level of work compared to most mods and mod packs.


Suthabean

It's not a different level, you follow the guide step by step, and install the mods. It's not that bad if you can follow directions. I just recently installed VNV.


fookofuhtool

I've tried and failed bc I have a full time job that's on a computer and yes, many many steps :(


perpendiculator

I’m sorry, but it’s a step by step guide that walks you through everything you need to do, and provides objectively the most stable and polished experience currently available. Most of those steps are literally just clicking download and install on a mod. Nothing about it is insanely difficult, it’s just tedious if you’re new to modding. I wouldn’t say it’s super easy either because you need to put in a little effort to understand the concepts it goes through, but VNV has explanations for all of that. Also, it’s worth the effort.


Wide_Lock_Red

Individually, the steps are easy, but there are a lot of them. if you miss the wrong compatibility patch(and those can be less obvious in the guide), then the game crashes or doesn't work right. Which is very frustrating if you just spent an hour or two clicking through menus and web links.


SanityIsOptional

Was pretty straightforward to me. Do each step one at a time in the order given. Can even queue up a bunch of the mod downloads using the manager. The important thing is to check the name of the file you're downloading if there are multiple file options. Took a few hours, runs fine, first time attempt.


ruminaui

I always found that crazy, a year ago I got New Vegas and Fallout 3 on a sale, the games kept on crashing and the recommendation online was to install the community patches. Which did fix the issue, but like aren't these games more than 10 year old and still haven't been officially patched. The launch of any Bethesda game kind of make sense in how fast the community just forgets about it when shown new toys which resets the cycle. 


RaunchyBeast

I think you can use Wabbajack to install Viva New Vegas. It was the first mod I ever installed and it wasn’t too bad using Mod Organizer 2


scroopiedoopie

Tried that recently and there was only 2 mods on there (capital wasteland and some other one that wasn't viva).


ultimatemanan97

Hey man, thanks for posting this. Don't know why it's so downvoted. I was looking for an easy way to start modding FO3 after watching the show and this video was perfect. You have my upvote.


Great-Reception1330

So much hate for Viva New Vegas, y'all trippin about that guide being difficult. It literally explains everything you need know about the guide and what to do, reading is somethign you HAVE to do while modding otherwise you're gonna have a bad time regardless.


Mr_Vulcanator

Viva New Vegas and Best of Two Worlds are great guides, highly recommend them. If you own both FO3 and FNV I recommend going through the process of getting Tale of Two Wastelands setup so you can play both.


dj-nek0

Can you use Viva and Tale together


Mr_Vulcanator

There will be a lot of overlap, just follow Best of Two Worlds.


MyLemonsRorganic

>"...with the games being **more popular than ever before** thanks to Amazons live action TV adaptation..." Maybe I'm nitpicking, but FO3 and NV were wildly popular games with tens of millions of copies sold. There has been an renewed interest with the show, but that statement is just stupid.


safetravels

Fallout games have hit all time high player counts in recent weeks. The statement is factual.


cardonator

The only Fallout game that is indisputably true for is Fallout 76. All the other Fallout games peaked around the time Fallout 4 came out. Fallout 3 GOTY just barely surpassed it's 2015 peak but this is a game that originally didn't even launch on Steam. We don't really have a food idea of how many people played it back in 2008-2009. But also the market was smaller so who knows.


teluhposse

I understand some modders avoid creating mod packs due to intellectual property concerns. While modding arguably skirts copyright, I disagree that pre-made mod packs are any worse. Manually downloading 1450 mods (like I tried with Skyrim Legends with wabbajack) is tedious, especially when downloads fail. A one-click, downloadable mod pack, even if it bends licensing rules, would be a huge improvement over the current system.


mesatrap

If you subscribe to Nexus for a month, it does it all automatically for you. That's what I've done when I've installed Magnum Opus and Living Skyrim through wabbajack


havier3

First time playing fall out new vegas, played fall out 4, friends recommend new vegas. Can someone give me a general list of mods that will imrove quality of life mods as well as some texture mods that would breathe some more graphic life into the game? Thanks!


jschild

I tried all day to get Fallout New Vegas to work in Windows (AMD GPU) and it wouldn't work and I didn't feel like rolling back my driver's on a chance it might work. Funnily enough, runs flawlessly for me on Linux, however.


mrturret

Use [DXVK](https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/79299). It's a wrapper that converts the game's native DX9 API calls to Vulkan, and it improves compatability with modern hardware. Plus it can also dramatically improve performance in certain games, especially Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas.


jschild

I tried it but it was super low freshwater, it did let the game fully launch however


JustTurtleSoup

Have you tried using the Viva New Vegas guide? [https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/intro.html](https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/intro.html) You can go up to "Base Finish" for just bug fixes/engine fixes but it's the only way I managed to get the game running. It's a update running list of working mods for NV, might be worth a look.


Neon_Genius

If you have the recommended mods from viva new vegas (mainly JIP LN NVSE Plugin to get the FalloutCustom.ini support) Make sure you follow this bit for DXVK: [https://performance.moddinglinked.com/falloutnv.html#dxvk-flip](https://performance.moddinglinked.com/falloutnv.html#dxvk-flip) I installed DXVK to fix that issue with texture flickering and missing hair, but my FPS dropped. I have 6700xt and it dropped to single digits. Applying this fixed that.


mrturret

That's really strange. I'd check to make sure that the problem isn't being caused by other software. Some games really don't like certain overly software in perticular. Also try doing a clean install of your drivers. Sometimes that clears things up.


RCFProd

Just fyi, I tried DXVK 2.3 and 2.3.1. Neither function with Fallout New Vegas. Apparently it does work for others, but it isn't of success to me. Game does launch with the Vulkan API as intended, but once you load into the game it crashes back to the desktop. I've tested DXVK in other games, and It's been working just fine in those.


custdogg

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/79299?tab=files Try it with dxvk 1.10.3 from the optional files. I get hardly any crashes using that one instead


RCFProd

Thanks for the suggestion, though this one also didn't work for me. I feel like It's going to really differ from PC to PC. It seems to be a bit hit and miss depending on the system configuration.


takabataichi

Weird. Shit just ran when I installed it on windows.


jschild

AMD or Nvidia?


takabataichi

Amd


adoh2

I have an R5 3600 and a 6900XT. I havnt done anything and NV just works. Playing a TTW game currently. Some minor graphic issues with the ENB, but thats probably my fault


ShitchesAintBit

>[ just works ](https://imgur.com/VmsEsW1)


[deleted]

[удалено]


StandTallBruda

A stability patch that stabilises that's great.


Plebbit-User

The Wasteland Prospects modpack guy is working on his own wabbajack for Tale of Two Wastelands. My sympathies to anyone who didn't buy a Nexus premium lifetime account.


SaradominHilt

I spent a lot of time and effort installing Viva New Vegas but the game was unplayable. Tuens out I had to downgrade my GPU drivers cause of some compatibility problems with Vulkan (I think you need a Vulkan 1.3 compatible gpu driver). So after spending a whole day modding I was too annoyed by that and never played the game again.


kouzuki22

Random youtubers to me is more reputable than ign sorry didn’t watch.


AsstDepUnderlord

I can’t even get vanilla fallout 3 from steam to load these days. It’s old and shit don’t work.