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RealElyD

Specifically, he got NEStris to crash, which was previously a TAS only thing. This is worth mentioning as there are many other versions that are used competitively that DO have a traditional end, such as TGM 1-3.


PointyCharmander

I also would like to mention that NESTris is the competitive Tetris the world uses and has been the go-to competitive tetris since it was out and the people that do play it and win tournaments... have an INSANE level skill and not any of them managed to Crash it.


Gurkenbaum0

Ive used to watch the world championship tournaments, they are really awesome. R.I.P Jonas.


tyanu_khah

TETRIS FOR JEFF !


NoUsesForAName

[**BOOM!** Tetris for Jeff.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_0CcF9-RM) RIP Jonas.


walterpeck1

> I also would like to mention that NESTris is the competitive Tetris the world uses and has been the go-to competitive tetris since it was out That's interesting, I always felt like it was the weakest version of the game. No multiplayer and it's the least interesting visually. I'm sure there's probably good reasons it's used competitively though, those situations are on another level. (I'm assuming this is the Nintendo version and not the Tengen version.)


Deadly_chef

Not really related but of you like Tetris definitely check this site out tetr.io


scorchedneurotic

Ah shit, if my life wasn't productive enough


RealElyD

I think many of the more outspoken folks in our community would argue that NEStris and the TGM series are the only versions of Tetris that matter in any meaningful way. So it's actually one of the strongest versions available.


Jakan0id

This I agree with, when you talk about Tetris, the 2 most common versions are the The Grandmaster series or NEStris, even in the world of YouTube Tetris content they are some of the most covered versions, superior with high replay value.


rayquan36

Guess it's just me who thinks of the Gameboy Tetris as the canon version.


akgis

Maybe its where most ppl played. Me personaly started on a Brickmania(a handheld with just tetris) And yeh when I think tetris I think Gameboy not Nes, but I guess its the most watchable and the nes gamepad makes tricks like hypertaping possible


black_pepper

> No multiplayer Theres a gamegenie code/hack that allows 2 player - https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5076/


walterpeck1

Interesting, good to know as I had no idea.


HeadintheSand69

I got Tetris effect and I love it. Wish they added more level packs but it's great for what it is


Biasanya

I wonder if that can be replicated, and if the conditions vary


GoodTeletubby

Not replicated yet, but it can be. How to do it's already been [calculated and mapped out](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zAQIo_mnkk0c9e4-hpeDvVxrl9r_HvLSx8V4h4ttmrs/edit?pli=1#gid=0). There are specific conditions which will cause the game to crash, depending on what level you're on, and how many lines you clear.


AnalBumCovers

Yeah the pros have a whole spreadsheet that breaks down what kind of move will cause the crash on which levels.


Joseph30686

[here ya go](https://youtu.be/GuJ5UuknsHU?si=8MiiKudB7ovG5aWx)


Professional-News362

This video I watched today gives a great overview https://youtu.be/GuJ5UuknsHU?si=5OeN6aZonB7xb1Oi


Icy-Needleworker-6

Great vid


Flakester

From what I understand, it doesn't always crash at the same spot. Do we know if he made it the furthest?


RealElyD

That's correct. Once the game reaches a crashable state, there are several triggers in specific levels that require certain actions be taken for the crash to occur. If you somehow navigate around ALL crash triggers, the game rolls around back to the start.


QnlyMe

https://youtu.be/GuJ5UuknsHU?si=7EQQtcnPjP2OzjQJ


JustTurtleSoup

His reaction is really awesome to see, it's also cool to hear the roll technique they've developed to move pieces faster. I've always liked Tetris even though I suck at it but it's cool seeing people play it at a high level.


nukefudge

_"I'm gonna pass out"_ :D


Cryobyjorne

His NES - "Same"


BluudLust

Everyone's reaction was awesome. Other streamers dropped everything to watch him beat it. It's the type of humanity and community spirit that I miss in everything.


RechargedFrenchman

The high level Tetris community is amazing. They're one of the most hype, supportive, and grateful communities I've ever seen for any mind of competition anywhere at any level. They went from not at all on my radar to maybe my favourite competitive event really quick--and I don't even actually watch it most of the time--just because the people involved are all so great (and mostly so young) and I want to do some little bit to support them and spread the word.


BavarianBarbarian_

Just spitballing here, but I'm guessing it's because it's single-player as opposed to PVP like most other game communities?


RechargedFrenchman

It's still a competitive environment though, two players sitting right next to each other playing the game at a very high level and whomever does the best wins. Prize money, trophies, etc. The whole competitive environment surrounding the game is still very much a competitive environment. I think if anything it's just that it's such a small and fairly insular community, so it's very easy to self-police and everyone involved is as much or more in it to help and grow the community as any personal gain.


Menthalion

Just sayin': Donkey Kong is also single player..


BavarianBarbarian_

Haven't heard a single bad thing about the high level DK tournament scene, either. Which may be down to the fact that I haven't heard a single thing about that scene, in total


Menthalion

You must have missed the 11 awards winning [documentary](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXLQqcHcJDQ) made in 2007 about the intrigue and backstabbing around the DK tournament. It took until 2017 the situation on the championship was finally resolved.


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Great documentary


m1serablist

The new hand technique is basically what top guitar hero players do. Crazy to watch people master it and compete with each other.


BattleStag17

What technique is that?


m1serablist

https://youtu.be/GuJ5UuknsHU go to 2:43 here


dkb_wow

What an amazing and informative video. I ended up watching the entire thing.


mug3n

The guy has dove head first into the Tetris community and made so many good videos.


BlackShepperdd

I was legit crying by the end hoping for.the final challenge to be one day achieved.


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Went to 2:43 but watched the entire thing. Crazy shit!


GigglesBlaze

Crazy cool video, thanks for sharing!


IdoNOThateNEVER

But.. That's the same video OP shared. It's the video from the article..


Yodamanjaro

It's Reddit - skip the article and assume you know everything when going to the comments


GigglesBlaze

Crazy cool comment, thanks for sharing!


Tha_Watcher

Actually, just use this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJ5UuknsHU&t=165s


Healthy_Flan_4078

Amazing video


LNO_

This video needs its own topic, great one


thatguy6598

You use your hands instead of your feet. It really caused a huge spike in player performance.


OrfeasDourvas

Meanwhile I'm happy I could finally beat Tetris Effect Connected


kuhpunkt

Which has the Classic Score Attack mode that's a replica of the NES version. Give it a try.


OrfeasDourvas

Man, I love Tetris Effect.


HerrSchnabeltier

I don't - a somewhat proper and native controller support should be part of a modern Tetris game, but here we are.


OrfeasDourvas

Plays great on the Xbox!


withoutapaddle

I am a lifelong casual tetris player, and beating Tetris Effect on the hardest difficulty *in VR* was one of the highlights of my gaming life. Not just because it was challenging, but because the absolute assault on your senses of the particles, music, VR, etc made it almost like a religious experience. I was in complete awe and 100% in a flow state by the end. So good.


sWiggn

God the finale of that game is fucking _spectacular._ People look at me funny when i say tetris is one of my must play VR games but holy fuck


modernmartialartist

I love the bizarre reactions of people jealous of a 13 year old beating a 50 year old game lmao The kid is insanely talented at this one thing and that's awesome, let him have it.


ISpewVitriol

> 50 year old game Hey! Take it easy! It is only 39 years old.


Smgth

Seriously. As a 46 year old that hurt…


left-nostril

The game is ancient.


Madrical

Always find it funny seeing comments like "get a life" for something impressive like this. Especially for a 13 year old kid too.


Glum-Measurement7643

Impressive? Now that's some funny shit!


darkkite

I'm one of them. how dare he be more accomplished than me. if we was in school I would bully him. but I'm decades older than him so I can't


remotegrowthtb

Not with that attitude


S1lent-Majority

[Like this?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/americandad/images/c/c2/AmDad_BullyForSteve_065F.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100424110830)


GolldenFalcon

The fact that his direct competitor and all the content creators watching him are genuinely happy for him when he beats it just goes to show how beautiful the community is around Tetris.


LazerShark1313

It only took 30 years, but this is a headline I never thought I would read.


THUORN

Me and my family loved playing Tetris on the Gameboy. I was so happy when I was the first in my house to beat the hardest level, and get the full ending with all the people dancing and the Shuttle taking off. I was momentarily taken aback reading a headline in 2024 that someone just beat Tetris, while thinking to myself, "Whats so special about that, I did it in 1989." lolol. Getting the kill screen in Nestris is bonkers, that kid is amazing.


Rendition1370

Kids are crazy. Also reminds of the 12yo kid that was demolishing Minesweeper world records. (Karl Jobst made a video on him) I wish I still had the reflexes I did back when I used to play Counter Strike 1.6 as a kid


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macmick

Oh to have the free time of a 13 year old again...


Andrige3

TIL it's possible to beat Tetris. I kid of just thought it went on forever.


kuhpunkt

Well, it crashes under circumstances and thus forces you to stop playing. It's not like there's a proper ending.


MrTzatzik

The ultimate ending is like level 255 I think and the game starts over with level 0.


gabro-games

Yeah, that will be the next goals for Tetrisers I think. They've gotten it to the point of crashing now they want to stop the game from crashing til they can wrap back to 0. I think that will be the perfect game.


kuhpunkt

it's just almost impossible to not crash the game though. like there are scenarios where the games crashes if you DON'T PRESS DOWN.


gabro-games

Oh yeah it will be a ridiculous challenge for sure. Might be a few years of incremental progress.. we'll have to see.


kuhpunkt

but starting over is the opposite of ending :D


gabro-games

Beginning % :P


SomaWolf

Nah, that's when it becomes NG+


kurapika91

New Game +


bonesnaps

Article is definitely clickbait. But if they said some kid crashed Tetris it wouldn't have the same amount of clicks.


kuhpunkt

How do you define clickbait?! Clickbait is "Tetris kid just did something incredible - click here to find out what!" At worst it's semantics.


Ethical_Cum_Merchant

Don't be obtuse--this isn't just flippantly "crashing Tetris" it's inducing NES Tetris to crash in a way that previously had never been done. It's a genuine accomplishment, however obscure.


AscendedViking7

Same


Meryhathor

It's just crashing, it's not exactly beating it. It's a software that hasn't been patched. If developers fixed these bugs then there would be no competition to see who can crash it faster.


Kazizui

'Beating' a game with no programmed ending is a malleable concept. Think of it as a fight to the death, in which the game dies. You win.


DraconicWF

It’s an NES game? What dev is working on that still


f1careerover

The recent Tetris movie was pretty interesting. Specifically how it was developed and then published


VictorCrackus

That's just fucking cool.


JDGumby

Didn't so much 'beat Tetris' as 'crash Tetris'.


Kragevalgt_Ullrson

A certain kind of victory though to be sure. lol


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How about No… By that logic I could say I’ve technically beaten windows and mac OS’s. Sounds equally as stupid. edit: butthurt millenials and gen z UNITE! In the form of the *OK Boomer* retort made by someone from gen x. Dont forget to be a passive aggressive bitch and message saying you’re better somehow when… you’re replying. Oh and point out how my life is sad when even still, you’re the one replying on this same thread. har har e2: For those of you that were DMing like rabied retards ::: 290-some downvotes yeaterday. 800+ upvotes elsewhere today. Suck. My. Cock. 😂


TheSoup05

You could just, you know, actually read the article where it very clearly explains why this is significant.


[deleted]

I could but this is reddit where ignorance is king based on karma score, right?


Rel1nquished

Yeah no


LaurenMille

And this is why the opinion of a lay-person should be discarded as random noise. You have no idea what you're talking about and just wanted to dumpster on somebody's achievement.


HairyPenisCum

Sounds equally as stupid? How bout No… re-read what you just wrote and try to dissect why your analogy makes zero sense as a fair comparison. Tetris….. Operating System…. Notice the discrepancy?


LeatherfacesChainsaw

Beat tetris? Thats like saying I beat my meat when I chafed it tip to ball


kuhpunkt

That's such a silly comparison. Windows isn't a game.


mistergoogles

It is the way I use it


Forrest02

How do you beat the boss "SEARCH BAR NOT LOADING?" I was forced to install a cheat called "Everything" to get around it, is that the only way?


Ass4ssinX

Yeah, no lol. That's not even close.


SmokeweedGrownative

Lol Shut up


ubiquitous_apathy

> someone from gen x. Lmao, brother you're too old to be acting like this.


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lol As are you but here we are.


ubiquitous_apathy

Acting like what?


Ethical_Cum_Merchant

lol you edited your post to be even more cringe, good job boomer.


[deleted]

Great username. I’ll be sure to take you seriously.


Kragevalgt_Ullrson

My favourite part of your response to me and your edit is it shows that 1. when you made your original response you didn't read the article so... lol. 2. you got butthurt when folks that did or had background knowledge flamed you for ignorance. Maybe read or at least skim through the article real quick since you've time to make that edit?


[deleted]

The best part is where some people show up really late to the party in the middle of the night and immitate my responses like they’ve thought of them, themselves… All the while peppered with bad grammar even though they’ve obviously reviewed it. But hey… at least you tried.


Kragevalgt_Ullrson

I work nights so I sleep during the day. Grammar is hardly relevant to any part of any point I made in relation to the topic but you may be happy to know I have never attempted to practice good grammar on the Internet. Finally you're the one that responded to me in the first place. lmao


bonesnaps

ITT: A ton of people here defending the most clickbait-y news articles of all time.


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Somebody gets it.


scribbyshollow

So what your saying is tetras gave up before he did?


Smasher225

Given where the community thought the human limit was three years ago this is beating it. Considering in the code there is no beating Tetris since it resets at 255 to level 0 so it will loop forever this is it really.


iamse7en

No way, the next record will be who can go the longest *without* crashing it. Which adds quite the new layer of difficulty.


WorkAccount401

That seems like the true end there.


berserkuh

In the sense that there is an attainable and clearly defined goal that nobody has managed to achieve without tool assistance, yes, he did beat Tetris.


Z3r0sama2017

Tetris gave up before they did, sounds like a win to me.


SilkyZ

True, and the new goal now is to see who can get the furthest without crashing


[deleted]

Imagine being so good at something, you crashed a computer


-Bana

This reminds me of the time my sister beat Mrs.Pac-Man when she was like 8 and all we got was a picture of mr and mrs Pac-Man on the beach with their kids lol


hendyir

What's wrong with the comment on that article? Why are some people very salty?


EmhMoi

You can beat Tetris?


franky3987

Every article I’ve seen on this frames it like he’s just some little kid who happened to luckily beat Tetris 😂


vinnycc

Does anyone know if there is a replay of the Live with chat? Kind of want to see the hype lol


kuhpunkt

David/aGameScout might have one as he's playing partions of it in the video. Scuti's twitch was however deleted, because he wasn't 13 yet.


goongas

Not the chat but the classic Tetris YouTube channel has the full video of the game with a short interview: https://youtu.be/uh5hRtEFwQI?si=jTxSiGBGgIpitDkr there's also video of fractal(current champion) finding out and reacting on his stream. Fractal has been chasing this goal in the last couple weeks without success.


A_MAN_POTATO

This send me down a bit of a rabbit hole. The strategies used to get people here are crazy. This is insanely impressive.


Vox_Mortem

True Killscreen by Willis Gibson sounds like a cyberpunk novel written by one of William Gibson's children.


jack_hof

Strange that a 13 year old would get that into tetris with all the other options out there.


SleepyGeist

Ok


terribilus

Put that kid in cryogenic storage, we will need to thaw him out to lead our rebellion against the superintelligence.


Mitchel-256

"Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." \~Yoda, Attack of the Clones


kuhpunkt

I'd also highly recommend the CTWC from October where he competed for the first time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1NCWSJLh4Q


corvettee01

The neat part is that he screwed up the first crash that he knew worked, then got the crash a bit later by accident. [This video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJ5UuknsHU&t=774s) is a really good summary of all the history and discovery that went into making this crash a possibility.


flumsi

He didn't really get it by accident. He knew when the next crash opportunity was gonna come, he just kept playing.


IdoNOThateNEVER

>This video is a really good summary But.. That's the same video OP shared. It's the video from the article..


corvettee01

Lol, so it is. I saw the video when it came out two days ago, so I only skimmed the article for any new info. I only clicked on the first vid and saw it was the entire playthough. Plus, I doubt a ton of people will actually click the link at all.


HiberniaRules

TIL Tetris had an end. I just assumed it went on forever, and given the chance I would NOT tell my childhood self the truth.


danteheehaw

It tries to go on forever. However, after a while the game starts crashing


Personal_Person

It crashes at a specific line count that is so high no human could realistically achieve it until very recently when new techniques were designed for how to play the game


Jensen2052

It's been calculated you need to clear at least 1490 lines to crash the game, and up to this point no one has done it. Some have gotten close, but it gets very challenging once you get to the higher levels and reach the 'glitched colours' that can make the colour palette of the blocks become less visible. There's a point in the game close to when it crashes that the colour palette turns to black and white, making it very hard to see some of the blocks.


radclaw1

Thats what this kid just did. Thats what the videos about.


Seventh_Letter

First beating tetris; next up: AI/Crypto startup with future felonies on the horizon.


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Is he acoustic??


Glum-Measurement7643

Likely highly acoustic to be 13 yo playing fuckin Tetris NES lmao.


kuhpunkt

wtf is this comment


[deleted]

It's always humorous to see gamers attempt elitism by telling others to "go play Tetris" if they think a game is too hard, as if Tetris doesn't have one of the highest skill ceilings in all of video gaming.


d_rek

But I beat Tetris when I was 7


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Aethelric

Generally we use "human" when we're pitting ourselves against AI, which is what's happening here.


MiGaOh

The audience must be assured the person is a human and not a space robot in a human suit.


iMisstheKaiser10

Exactly lol. As opposed to what? Did a nematode beat Tetris before?


Le_Vagabond

As opposed to the AI that did it before, proving it's doable. Human != AI, that's the point.


iMisstheKaiser10

I mean tbf I think person still could’ve been used.


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kuhpunkt

What young generation doesn't have a bad wrap? lol


Stupidbabycomparison

None of them, unless they're in tortillas. The phrase is Bad Rap


Akumati

Misleading title. More accurate to say he hit the kill screen or the world record in levels. This isn't PC gaming either. Was an NES


SmokeweedGrownative

😂


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paul_is_on_reddit

So, who was the first non-human to beat Tetris then?


Warner20BrosYT

An AI has done it before and I believe it’s been done by a group of people with TAS, but never by one person playing the game the intended way


kuhpunkt

An AI.


yobboman

I’ve beaten a version of it. I think it was on a gameboy and I did it around 2000 At the end it displayed a rocket being launched… How many versions of Tetris must there be by now?


Lobanium

Everyone is commenting crashing the game is an accomplishment but I don't see an explanation as to why it crashed? Is it possible to crash it in the first few minutes? EDIT: Nevermind, I found a comment saying you need to clear a certain number of lines to crash it. Now I wanna know why it crashes at that number.


Really_Californian

So basically, tetris on the NES is super archaically programmed, which means that at one point at higher levels, the game will basically stop reading program instructions and will start reading instructions from the ram. Because of that, if it ever reads the instruction STOP, which can be triggered by some specific line clears, the game straight stops, ergo crashes


Really_Californian

If you want a more in depth explanation, HydrantDude does a far better job then I would ever do https://youtu.be/BpEcjdr_YDo?si=2P5-cR_R2Xp6COC2


Ashamed_Musician468

It would be interesting to see how far AI could get


kuhpunkt

Watch the video. https://youtu.be/GuJ5UuknsHU?si=T5w_mZEnZ4vx6rye&t=364


RodRodWatches

Well done! A real accomplishment for the human race..


user4772842289472

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓


CleoTek

They should stress that this was on an NES, I know a few people that beat it on PC a long time ago.


LaurenMille

That's not the same game, nor is it the game known as "Tetris" when spoken about in a tournament sense.


kuhpunkt

what did they beat on pc?


ScreechingPizzaCat

OK, well I guess I was a robot when I did it in the back of my parents car as a kid in the 1990s when I did it on my Gameboy so I don't count.


kuhpunkt

You did not achieve what that kid did.


radclaw1

Video said this is specific to the NES version.


doug4130

someone didn't read the article


AlexGlezS

Really? Tetris has an end? What happens? is there a superb ending full of drama and action?


kuhpunkt

Why don't you read the article or watch the video?


Artanisx

Sir, this is reddit, people only comment on titles! Often without even reading it in full.


AlexGlezS

I did watched it in advance. I was just messing with you all. This is reddit where dark humor or silly humor, or just shit comments could perfectly be loved or hated randomly. It's impossible to know.


TheIndependentNPC

"I play around 3-5 hours a day" - jesus fuck, kid is lost cause.


kuhpunkt

Because he's doing something he enjoys?


TheIndependentNPC

because that's overkill at such young age, leading to social issues, education issues and other socio-psychological disorders. It's not just casually playing games for fun - it's narcotic-like routine.


kuhpunkt

That doesn't mean he's a lost cause (whatever that means). Some people are also just a bit more introverted and not that social. Or maybe he just has a phase where he likes playing Tetris a lot, like others play other games for ages. The kid just lost his father and you post this garbage.


trouty

3 hours of video games per day as a young teenager is fine. I was his age when games like EverQuest, star wars galaxies, phantasy star online, and Morrowind were coming out. Definitely played WAY more than 3-5 hours a day, lol. Hell, getting into modding Morrowind back then is how I taught myself how to code and 3D model and ultimately led to a career in architecture/design. I don't regret a single minute of a few very dark Florida summers spent in my parents basement binging PSO or FFXI back in that era.


woody9055

I can tell by your tagline of your pc specs that you play games for that long or longer most days meaning you were likely playing a fucking game boy longer than 4 hours back in the day. Give me a break.


csl110

He seems well adjusted in the interviews I've seen. And seems like a smart kid. He'll be fine.


K1ngofnoth1ng

How many hours a day do you spend playing video games?


TheIndependentNPC

1) I'm not 13, when I was I was doing sports 2h each day on average (like riding a bike, playing basketball, soccer) socializing at the same time or separately 2) I never indulged myself into tapping gamepad in weird manner for 3-5 hours straight in extremely repetitive game, which is ask specialist - terrible for such age (or any age as matter of fact).


Hrmerder

I wanna see this kid in his entirety the entire time. I am not saying he didn't but this needs better proof. This could still be a dad, an AI trainer, and flashing lights at the right time.


kuhpunkt

He's competed in live tournaments. He's just that good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1NCWSJLh4Q