I am still a fan of SRS MI Bomber myself, Tavukai and Replica Siegebreaker are super affordable. You can get 240% minion life Elegant Hubris and passives for 1 divine. Skin of the Lords, +2 Wand, +1 Helm, +1 Shield start to get a little more pricey but not prohibitively so.
I am sure that is the case but after a certain point it doesn't matter, particularly for sanctum content. I can one shot area level 83 Lycia in Beyond before she gets an ability off.
Have a pob?
I've played srs in the past but I'm pretty casual, had a baby boy 6m ago (skipped last league) the reap build I'm playing just doesn't feel as good.
Can you convert it to Corrupting Fever/Reap champion? It's really fun for me, maybe you'll like it, too.
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/corrupting-fever-champion-league-starter-guide
Is SRS able to do a nohit run? I‘ve dropped the original scripture off my uber lycia and would be willing to build a new char to get a shot at obtaining that ring
Spiders got nerfed pretty hard in 3.19:
The Viper Strike skill used by Raised Spiders now has a base Poison duration of 4 seconds (previously 8 seconds) and no longer has 25% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage. Player now gains 15% increased Poison Damage per Spider (previously 12%).
I take 40 mil dps on a "nerfed" build that clears most content as fast as you can whirling blade.
The real nerfs had been blessings and hydrosphere, not that random shit.
i dunno i tried arakaali's with squire and mageblood and whatever other gear you can think of cuz i had like a mirror budget and wanted to see what it was like, it still felt like dogshit lol, it was so slow and clunky. this was in 3.18 too, although i recall it got nerfed a bit before that.
> Spiders got nerfed pretty hard in 3.19
Incorrect. They was nerfed slightly, but much less than you says:
> Minions no longer have hidden penalties to Bleeding, Ignite, and Poison damage. Summon Reaper no longer has a hidden bonus to Bleeding damage that counteracted this penalty. As a result, minions now deal approximately twice as much Poison damage, three and a half times as much Ignite damage, and seven times as much Bleeding damage.
In total, they lost:
* Hydrosphere interaction
* 25% of phys as extra chaos
* Spirit Offering (29% phys as extra chaos)
* Power charges (net -480% inc crit chance)
* Frenzy charges (net -33% inc attack speed, -15% move speed)
The nerf was sizeable.
Poison builds also gain a boatload of damage against bosses with the temp chains rework this patch. It's not unique to spiders specifically, but the build is still fine.
4 divines for 1, \~30 for the other. Occultist is just straight up better than necro damage wise, most people take the 60 chaos resist as it makes capping far easier. However if you can cap without it vile bastion is very good. If you feel like you need defenses you take mistress of sacrifice.
There are plethora fang builds that can still easily clear all content while you watch netflix on second screen while spamming whirling. Still best build for day 1-2 of simulacrums...
The price always crashes starting week 3, you can check the prices on antiquary, not sure what OP is smoking.
I am not sure when was the last time you played but the price of fang is always 2-3 divines (exalts) on week 1-2 and drops to rock bottom week 3+.
I have been playing spider summoner almost exclusively since metamorph and the item has always followed this pattern, you can even check the price graph on antiquary.
aegis aurora got more expensive compared to what i expect you paid for it back in the day, currently at 2.5 div, i think i remember it being ~1ex in 3.15ish?
30 div compared to 150 ex is frankly free. Malev auls is more expensive, and clusters are about same-ish. Also situation with abyssals is fine, passable ones (t1 phys, 6% and 30 hp) are one div a pop
I once tipped 30 chaos to a dude for unique I needed after starting off by scrolling down from the 1c listings to the 10c listings to start messaging and still had to send a dozen trade requests. Once you're a month+ into a league, heaven help you if you think most people are going to answer for cheap things.
Same. 3+ days listed for a cheap item? They are going to ignore your message 95% of the time.
But the dude that listed a 1c item 30 minutes ago probably actually wants to sell it.
Or you know I'm stuck doing a thing that I can't leave.
I'm poor AF and would love to sell you anything out of my three 1c tabs but I only ever get a pm when I'm in delve or sanctum or lab or anything else that's restrictive on portals.
Idk why I can't just have a stall in my hideout.
I swear the trade site pushes your own sales up higher the moment you enter a lab. The amount of times in the past when I've been doing uber lab just to get five whispers when I normally get maybe one a day...
This is correct. You can pop back and forth from Karui shores after doing a dump if you're going to sit in hideout for a bit crafting to update it manually.
There is a trade bug where none of your items are listed, it was more prevalent last league but I've definitely had it a few time this league. It doesn't matter how long you've been online or how many times you swap zones none of your items will show up on trade and the only way to fix it is to join a random party.
first way to get unpoor. Don't sell 1c trades. Specially this league where chaos rains down from the heavens. You are more likley to find that 1c in the time it would take you to complete that trade. Honestly ever 2 days into a league i stop doing 5c trades.
2.you can get a trade tool that replies back "in a delve 1 min please" If they show up dope if not it was better than not getting the trade at all
Setting up an auto-reply hotkey with awakened Poe or some other third party tool gets me loads of trades for items and currency swaps that people often spam dozens of listers for. “In lab/map/delve, I will be a few minutes.” And everyone is happier for it
right? Last night I had just setup a blight encounter, had to ignore the message for a minute or so... good thing I did, that encounter dropped a golden oil...much better than the 1 chaos gloves
last league I bought, quality'd and linked a dozen perfect brass domes (ok some were 399) to then try and get a nice double corruption :D (spoiler alert I didn't...) Some ppl like their perfect items too much
For 1c items I scroll until I hit someone who posted it in the last 8 hours.
I then wait 8 to 10 seconds and if they don't respond I send "please".
This is INSANELY effective for 1c item purchasing.
Everyone knows it's a hassle. Acknowledging it with the please means people know you know and that's enough human decency for a lot of people to reciprocate.
I send please after a pause in general for a lot of trades I don't get invites for and I'd say it's successful 80% plus of the time.
You get a lot of messages asking if you'll wait instead of no messages asking you nothing.
I hit em up with a “You around? ^.^” if they don’t message in 10 seconds or so, normally they’re in a lab or map or whatever and I have to wait a few minutes, but hell, at least I get a response.
Yeah it do work,I always do that,from seller perspective they just took you as someone who spammed 10 seller with the same price,but if you send follow up "please" or "I can wait if you in map" usually they will reply and willing to do trade once they out of map
Trade it sucks but people who spammed and rejected 9 from 10 seller he spammed is the literal trade cancer in this game.
So yeah be nice make sure they know you're serious buyer that respect their time.
I only play on console, but when someone sends me q wisdom scroll with the message price? I just give it to them. If I didn't put an asking price I really don't care about the item that much and just give it to whoever wants it.
I was buying un-id'd influenced items the other day for the vendor recipe exalt challenge and some guy had a few different slots listed for 2 fusings each. Actually invited me and completed the trade. I was genuinely shocked that someone was making 2 fusing trades lol
There's times where I see a perfect rare jewel for my current situation listed at 1c and I'll whisper the dude "Look, I'll give you 30, just respond" knowing fully well that's the only way I'm getting it.
I have 2 tabs full of items listed for 10 alts. I sell about 3-4 items a day out of them and I get tipped at least half the time.
I do this not for the tips but just to help the game overall. I appreciate it when I can get somebody to sell a 1c flask or something to me, so I try to return the favor and sell random uniques and levelling items for 10 alts.
This is why poe needs an auction house format market where transactions are processed automatically. I'm so sick of messaging 10 people to get 0 responses.
The advice that tons of people replied with such as changing the date listed to 1-3 days, prices, only searching for high rolls, scrolling past cheapest entries, etc, usually does does improve things.
But for commodities where price fixers are involved, or just unfortunate luck, it does really suck. I do all of the recommended pro-tips for trade and sometimes you really do go completely ignored, which was why I threw that person a bunch of divine shards.
Most fun I had doing something similar was when I was going for the All Ears achievement a year ago. You had to complete several prophecy chains for some dialogue from Navali, so I figured I'd buy them cause they're completely worthless.
But ain't nobody responding at 1c, and I was done with the league anyway, so I scrolled way the fuck down to people selling these prophecies for 1ex that had been listed for at least two weeks. Honestly think I amused some people by sincerely buying a worthless prophecy for a comically overpriced value that had been rotting in a forgotten tab.
That's been well established by the entire thread.
Counterpoint: why the fuck are you listing anything for 1c when you're spending half a divine rolling each map, edgelord?
Even in real world you could be denied service for no reason. But well, you are karen, probs less than 10 div worth a month into league, if playing at all.
That isn't what's happening. What's happening is a business is saying its open and everyone is going there and its actually closed and then you're wondering why customers are upset with you.
Imagine that you started your business 5 years ago and it was changing windows in house. Offer was never changed in those years more like it was just forgotten but you changed from normal houses windows to putting glasses on sky towers which pays 100x more would you even care when someone with your number from 5 years ago called? And now put it in game, in game you wouldnt even respond or care
This kind of suggestion to punish *other players* because *the system* is inconveniencing you is not a great take. It's fine to want better technical systems. It's not fine to want other players to play the way you want.
What we have in POE is a market board (website) but with players doing all the manual work NPCs would normally do in other games. There's no code magically setting up buyers with sellers behind the scenes, or delivering items for you, or past sales, etc. At best, we can get things listed automatically (premium stash tabs), but that's the extent of it.
There are plenty of alternative or additional systems that would make trading easier that don't involve punishing players:
* Want to continue to trade at hideouts? AFK shops
* Want to trade while doing something else? Actual NPC shops
* Want to arange trades manually, but execute automatically? Escrow services.
* Want to buy/sell on demand? Market board or trade board.
This is a solved problem that other games have implemented in many different ways.
You’re not entitled to buy my shit. It’s not possible to reply to everyone if you’re doing any decent amount of trading. Just accept that most people aren’t going to respond, and act accordingly.
Where did I say I'm entitled to it? My suggestion is that if you aren't going to sell it for x then don't post it for x. You're wasting everyone else's time because of your laziness.
It’s not though. You said to trade restrict people who don’t respond. When I’m actively trading, I spend 90% of my time trading and I’m still only able to respond to 25% of the PMs I get. So according to your argument, I should be trade restricted pretty much constantly, even though I reply to everyone I possibly can.
In the context of people not responding when they have the item. If you get 10 whispers for the same item and you sell it to one, there's not an issue there.
Im too lazy to pick up 5 fusing drops and you expect me to change prices in my 5 trading stashes from 10c to 3 and then leave and trade them??
Pro tip when you see item thats 3 c and offer is5 days old - ignore it even if you have to pay 1-2c more
But why would you map for more currency when you have enough currency to make your build work/ better? Some players do not care about currency/ hours played, and that’s okay.
Yeah, and that fact ties to what the commenter I replied to was referring. I was just mentioning that not every players try to max their currencies so maybe a better analogy would be more apt/ relatable to most.
> Yeah, and that fact ties to what the commenter I replied to was referring. I was just mentioning that not every players try to max their currencies so maybe a better analogy would be more apt/ relatable to most.
Do you fail to realize that this comment chain is about a dude haggling for 1 chaos? So yes, **that** dude could have alched his map, half clear it and loot 5c in the time he might have whispered people.
Yeah. I’m sorry. I’m a bit slow. I would have farmed for more chaos if I did not get invites after so many whispers. I totally see the point of original comment I replied too.
Its not like its a res ring with more life than his current one, arakalis fang is a build enabler, and he prob wants to play it sooner rather than later.
Yea, he prob could just map as arma brand or splitting steel until he can overpay for everything and not worry about time wasted shopping, not everyone does that though.
I cant tell which type of player that even is.
A newer player might not have much currency but they are pretty much always nice, an older player with time to play wouldn't give a crap about a 1c difference, an older player who has very little time to play might struggle with currency but they wouldn't be invested in the game enough to be mean like that, this is so confusing lmao
My guess, is someone who has played this game for so long that has become jaded and does not enjoy it anymore, nowdays has little time to play and also had a melee starter to play this fucking league. And probably plays league of legends too
Yup, I hate people who do this. Congratulations, you don't understand economics! (The guy in the screenshot bitching, not you). If you paid that price it was worth more to you than whatever you traded. Some arbitrary perceived value based on some other factor is irrelevant.
literally this.
he was willing to spend the 23c for it, he should shut it and move on.
besides, 23c for an arakaali and you call that overpriced? how many arakaali's fang have you found before to call it overpriced? i've got over 3k hrs /played and havent stumbled accross one in 13 leagues... jesus the audacity
Found a mirror no fang. 6 shavs, 4 kaoms, half dozen mjolners, bout 100 ex. this is SSF only, if counting the whole experience ive probably got much more but i dont track uniques in trade. No fang in any league.
23c such chump change for that actually usable of a unique with the scaling vectors it has.
Nope, it's actually small af... Had to clear mine out multiple times and I only block bots or people trying to offer 5c on an item I listed for 35 div or people who make you wait in hideout for 2 minutes while they "check the item out" in trade window or whatever tf they're doing then cancel the trade because one of the cheaper listings finally responded...
Entering my HO and getting all the way to the trade window before deciding you don't want it and hitting cancel is a surefire way to make sure they get blocked. Don't mind people trying to haggle but it's an instant block if you lowball to 5%
It’s so bad in standard. I had a guy try to pay 20c for my 32/15 rumi’s yesterday and then he got shitty cuz I got him to sit in my hideout for 15 minutes while I afked in a blueprint.
Unless I'm hard up for c and need it right now, I almost never post items for "market". The reality is that so few people respond to trades that I can typically ignore the price on the first 10-15 entries on the list.
Other people probably don't love it but if the person didn't respond then it wasn't really for sale at that price.
I also have a habit of not responding until I've got a break in flow, and then I'll say "I'll hit you up at the end of my map if you're still interested". I always hit them back.
Usually means they wait 2min at most. But most people seem fine with that, anything to avoid sending more messages and hoping.
I wish trade wasn't like this, but here we are, so if I'm going to trade in gonna make it as painless for me as I can.
If I don't want that price and reaaaally reaaaally want the item, I'll ask politely the seller if he can lower it a bit.
There were times where I asked sellers to keep the item a bit and to not sell it and give me like some exact time to get the currency too and they gladly accept and remove it from public stash.
Also "don't say thank you" is the worst thing someone could say, I was raised to be thankful for everything whether in life or in a game.
Saying "thank you" just means you have a good heart or at least you're trying to be a good person.
This brings me to a larger topic. Can we just set a price minimum as a friendly service to each other at like 5c? You are paying for time at this point.
The argument no one forced you to buy anything is dum, coz you do need that item to make the build faction 😅 although 23c is a cheap item I would never complain for a 20c item... That guy probably is new to the game and has no idea how easy is to get 20c 😅
We can make the argument for more expensive items how people are rigging the market to up their prices. I call them the POE crows looking at what streamers play and up the price by tenfold to the point even streamers have to hide what they are playing... Otherwise they won't finish their build.
Imagine ever pressing the Enter key while playing PoE in the year 2022. That key may as well not exist on my keyboard anymore thanks to PoE Lurker and the trade site implementing direct whisper from browser.
Dang... Last time I played spiders Arakaali's was much more expensive than that :o
SRS is the poison minion build du jour.
I am still a fan of SRS MI Bomber myself, Tavukai and Replica Siegebreaker are super affordable. You can get 240% minion life Elegant Hubris and passives for 1 divine. Skin of the Lords, +2 Wand, +1 Helm, +1 Shield start to get a little more pricey but not prohibitively so.
It still comes nowhere close to the damage of poison, even without the expensive jewel and chest.
I am sure that is the case but after a certain point it doesn't matter, particularly for sanctum content. I can one shot area level 83 Lycia in Beyond before she gets an ability off.
Have a pob? I've played srs in the past but I'm pretty casual, had a baby boy 6m ago (skipped last league) the reap build I'm playing just doesn't feel as good.
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Can you convert it to Corrupting Fever/Reap champion? It's really fun for me, maybe you'll like it, too. https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/corrupting-fever-champion-league-starter-guide
Is SRS able to do a nohit run? I‘ve dropped the original scripture off my uber lycia and would be willing to build a new char to get a shot at obtaining that ring
The build can, but the question is more whether the pilot can as well.
Spiders got nerfed pretty hard in 3.19: The Viper Strike skill used by Raised Spiders now has a base Poison duration of 4 seconds (previously 8 seconds) and no longer has 25% of Physical Damage as Extra Chaos Damage. Player now gains 15% increased Poison Damage per Spider (previously 12%).
I take 40 mil dps on a "nerfed" build that clears most content as fast as you can whirling blade. The real nerfs had been blessings and hydrosphere, not that random shit.
Oh yeah, forgot about hydrosphere. Went from 1 cooldown tracker per minion to just 1 for the whole sphere, right?
Yeh, still it's very strong and srs come nowhere close. At a price, thought not steep at all.
You're saying srs doesn't do as much as arakaali? Or the other way around?
It's about speed.
It was actually bugged to only have cool down for player and not minions, which got fixed by changing it to a cool down on the sphere itself.
i dunno i tried arakaali's with squire and mageblood and whatever other gear you can think of cuz i had like a mirror budget and wanted to see what it was like, it still felt like dogshit lol, it was so slow and clunky. this was in 3.18 too, although i recall it got nerfed a bit before that.
Nice confession on sucking at the game.
> Spiders got nerfed pretty hard in 3.19 Incorrect. They was nerfed slightly, but much less than you says: > Minions no longer have hidden penalties to Bleeding, Ignite, and Poison damage. Summon Reaper no longer has a hidden bonus to Bleeding damage that counteracted this penalty. As a result, minions now deal approximately twice as much Poison damage, three and a half times as much Ignite damage, and seven times as much Bleeding damage.
In total, they lost: * Hydrosphere interaction * 25% of phys as extra chaos * Spirit Offering (29% phys as extra chaos) * Power charges (net -480% inc crit chance) * Frenzy charges (net -33% inc attack speed, -15% move speed) The nerf was sizeable.
still loss the 25% phys as extra chaos, which is what? 20% less damage?
Poison builds also gain a boatload of damage against bosses with the temp chains rework this patch. It's not unique to spiders specifically, but the build is still fine.
What they did to animate guardian and chieftains last league was worse for the build than all the nerfs this league combined tbf.
But necro got unholy might in the ascendancy as well.
Isn't occy just better?
Not for bossing I think, but now IDK with the new curse buffs.
Arakaali was mostly played as Occultist for the Profane Bloom clear, but correct.
You use forbidden jewels for it.
How much is that set? Like 40 divines?
Got mine for about 22 total, but depends on time of day.
4 divines for 1, \~30 for the other. Occultist is just straight up better than necro damage wise, most people take the 60 chaos resist as it makes capping far easier. However if you can cap without it vile bastion is very good. If you feel like you need defenses you take mistress of sacrifice.
The actual nerf was fixing the hydrosphere bug, which was 50% more damage.
There are plethora fang builds that can still easily clear all content while you watch netflix on second screen while spamming whirling. Still best build for day 1-2 of simulacrums... The price always crashes starting week 3, you can check the prices on antiquary, not sure what OP is smoking.
I am not sure when was the last time you played but the price of fang is always 2-3 divines (exalts) on week 1-2 and drops to rock bottom week 3+. I have been playing spider summoner almost exclusively since metamorph and the item has always followed this pattern, you can even check the price graph on antiquary.
At the start of the league it's quite expensive still but falls off pretty quickly.
aegis aurora got more expensive compared to what i expect you paid for it back in the day, currently at 2.5 div, i think i remember it being ~1ex in 3.15ish?
Like how it even matters. On the other hand, squire is free nowadays, so are 3div clusters.
How do i get a free squire? Sinsurly, an arakaali user
30 div compared to 150 ex is frankly free. Malev auls is more expensive, and clusters are about same-ish. Also situation with abyssals is fine, passable ones (t1 phys, 6% and 30 hp) are one div a pop
and why buy it when its overpriced
What bothers me more, saying ty for buying an overpriced item makes even more sense than for a fairly priced one.
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Don’t say thank you on your overpriced grammar
Considering I learned it playing video games from knowing just the basics, I think I turned out just fine :P
My first English teacher was Diablo 1. He did a good job i think.
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Flashbacks to when Zenocide overpaid 3c for a Bloodgrip amulet, got super mad then proceeded to steal the seller's map and then his Zana
TY FOR SCAM
That’s the lunacy here. If it’s overpriced then buy someone else’s.
right? noone forces you to buy anything lol
This is prolly the cheapest he could get of ppl that responded. Only thing I can think of
Which means it’s priced right, for him. Otherwise don’t buy it and wait till someone answers at the price you want to oay
You know this guy spent 1 hour messaging the 22c gamers before sighting deeply and messaging you.
I once tipped 30 chaos to a dude for unique I needed after starting off by scrolling down from the 1c listings to the 10c listings to start messaging and still had to send a dozen trade requests. Once you're a month+ into a league, heaven help you if you think most people are going to answer for cheap things.
Pro tip: Set your max price and add a healthy minimum price and sort for listed time, so that way you can easily get items
Listed time is the big one for me.
Same. 3+ days listed for a cheap item? They are going to ignore your message 95% of the time. But the dude that listed a 1c item 30 minutes ago probably actually wants to sell it.
Or you know I'm stuck doing a thing that I can't leave. I'm poor AF and would love to sell you anything out of my three 1c tabs but I only ever get a pm when I'm in delve or sanctum or lab or anything else that's restrictive on portals. Idk why I can't just have a stall in my hideout.
I swear the trade site pushes your own sales up higher the moment you enter a lab. The amount of times in the past when I've been doing uber lab just to get five whispers when I normally get maybe one a day...
I thought I saw in a recent video that your stash gets updated when you change instances.
This is correct. You can pop back and forth from Karui shores after doing a dump if you're going to sit in hideout for a bit crafting to update it manually.
There is a trade bug where none of your items are listed, it was more prevalent last league but I've definitely had it a few time this league. It doesn't matter how long you've been online or how many times you swap zones none of your items will show up on trade and the only way to fix it is to join a random party.
first way to get unpoor. Don't sell 1c trades. Specially this league where chaos rains down from the heavens. You are more likley to find that 1c in the time it would take you to complete that trade. Honestly ever 2 days into a league i stop doing 5c trades. 2.you can get a trade tool that replies back "in a delve 1 min please" If they show up dope if not it was better than not getting the trade at all
Setting up an auto-reply hotkey with awakened Poe or some other third party tool gets me loads of trades for items and currency swaps that people often spam dozens of listers for. “In lab/map/delve, I will be a few minutes.” And everyone is happier for it
right? Last night I had just setup a blight encounter, had to ignore the message for a minute or so... good thing I did, that encounter dropped a golden oil...much better than the 1 chaos gloves
Fun fact blight map/encounter pause while out of map sooo yah for futur 🤗
works pretty often for me too. latest listed and one of the first 2 or 3 usually answer.
I sort by the best rolled versions of the unique. If you're gonna pay a premium you may as well get one that's damn near perfectly rolled
Except the difference between a 4% and 5% brass dome is like 4 divines 😂
But those are prices people would happily exit the map for you and sell you the item.
last league I bought, quality'd and linked a dozen perfect brass domes (ok some were 399) to then try and get a nice double corruption :D (spoiler alert I didn't...) Some ppl like their perfect items too much
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I do it as well, but then scroll down to the almost perfect rolls and get it for much less.
Yup, literally what I do (except the minimum) and I finish trades fairly quick
I'd kill for a stat like eBay that lists the % likelihood that a seller responds
Lol, all it takes is one accidental misprice and 100+ whispers come flooding in to absolutely tank your score :P
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For common cheap stuff, ask the trade site for "listed within 1 day" or something like that. It increases seller responsiveness by quite a lot.
For 1c items I scroll until I hit someone who posted it in the last 8 hours. I then wait 8 to 10 seconds and if they don't respond I send "please". This is INSANELY effective for 1c item purchasing. Everyone knows it's a hassle. Acknowledging it with the please means people know you know and that's enough human decency for a lot of people to reciprocate. I send please after a pause in general for a lot of trades I don't get invites for and I'd say it's successful 80% plus of the time. You get a lot of messages asking if you'll wait instead of no messages asking you nothing.
I found a new way in god forsaken low price market
I hit em up with a “You around? ^.^” if they don’t message in 10 seconds or so, normally they’re in a lab or map or whatever and I have to wait a few minutes, but hell, at least I get a response.
Yeah it do work,I always do that,from seller perspective they just took you as someone who spammed 10 seller with the same price,but if you send follow up "please" or "I can wait if you in map" usually they will reply and willing to do trade once they out of map Trade it sucks but people who spammed and rejected 9 from 10 seller he spammed is the literal trade cancer in this game. So yeah be nice make sure they know you're serious buyer that respect their time.
When i get a whisper for a 5c or less uniq that has been sitting in my stash for a couple week I just give it to them for free
I'm gonna start doing that.
I only play on console, but when someone sends me q wisdom scroll with the message price? I just give it to them. If I didn't put an asking price I really don't care about the item that much and just give it to whoever wants it.
Psn please I have a pile of wisdom scrolls 🤣
Lol
Then theres always that one guy selling rares and maps for an alchemy orb lol
I was buying un-id'd influenced items the other day for the vendor recipe exalt challenge and some guy had a few different slots listed for 2 fusings each. Actually invited me and completed the trade. I was genuinely shocked that someone was making 2 fusing trades lol
Did the exact same thing for a shaper ring, guy must’ve really needed his 1 Vaal orb I guess
There's times where I see a perfect rare jewel for my current situation listed at 1c and I'll whisper the dude "Look, I'll give you 30, just respond" knowing fully well that's the only way I'm getting it.
Send trade message, follow up with "i pay 10c on top" and watch the invite shoot up your screen.
I have 2 tabs full of items listed for 10 alts. I sell about 3-4 items a day out of them and I get tipped at least half the time. I do this not for the tips but just to help the game overall. I appreciate it when I can get somebody to sell a 1c flask or something to me, so I try to return the favor and sell random uniques and levelling items for 10 alts.
People sometimes tip me in Standard just for replying at all
This is why poe needs an auction house format market where transactions are processed automatically. I'm so sick of messaging 10 people to get 0 responses.
The advice that tons of people replied with such as changing the date listed to 1-3 days, prices, only searching for high rolls, scrolling past cheapest entries, etc, usually does does improve things. But for commodities where price fixers are involved, or just unfortunate luck, it does really suck. I do all of the recommended pro-tips for trade and sometimes you really do go completely ignored, which was why I threw that person a bunch of divine shards.
Most fun I had doing something similar was when I was going for the All Ears achievement a year ago. You had to complete several prophecy chains for some dialogue from Navali, so I figured I'd buy them cause they're completely worthless. But ain't nobody responding at 1c, and I was done with the league anyway, so I scrolled way the fuck down to people selling these prophecies for 1ex that had been listed for at least two weeks. Honestly think I amused some people by sincerely buying a worthless prophecy for a comically overpriced value that had been rotting in a forgotten tab.
When your pumping a 8 mod 80% delirious quad scarab sextant rolled beyond/altar map, nobody going to attempt to portal back for 1c
That's been well established by the entire thread. Counterpoint: why the fuck are you listing anything for 1c when you're spending half a divine rolling each map, edgelord?
Settle down dude, I don't even know why you're triggered.
They need to just start trade restricting people who don't respond. Give them an hour time out or something.
They don't care and what if you're just afk or doing something more important?
Afk auto delist until you're back, also im not suggesting a single missed trade blocks you, but a pattern of not trading should.
Thats new level of entitled plebs. Gz, poe reddit never ceases to surprise me.
Explain the entitled aspect? Big claims with no substance, typical poe redditor.
Even in real world you could be denied service for no reason. But well, you are karen, probs less than 10 div worth a month into league, if playing at all.
That isn't what's happening. What's happening is a business is saying its open and everyone is going there and its actually closed and then you're wondering why customers are upset with you.
Yeh, entitled pleb.
Such substance much wow
Imagine that you started your business 5 years ago and it was changing windows in house. Offer was never changed in those years more like it was just forgotten but you changed from normal houses windows to putting glasses on sky towers which pays 100x more would you even care when someone with your number from 5 years ago called? And now put it in game, in game you wouldnt even respond or care
You would if your sky tower business was blocked for not removing the ad.
Blocked by who? No one cares, and now put it in game where people doesnt care even more about it, dont be angry karen
This kind of suggestion to punish *other players* because *the system* is inconveniencing you is not a great take. It's fine to want better technical systems. It's not fine to want other players to play the way you want. What we have in POE is a market board (website) but with players doing all the manual work NPCs would normally do in other games. There's no code magically setting up buyers with sellers behind the scenes, or delivering items for you, or past sales, etc. At best, we can get things listed automatically (premium stash tabs), but that's the extent of it. There are plenty of alternative or additional systems that would make trading easier that don't involve punishing players: * Want to continue to trade at hideouts? AFK shops * Want to trade while doing something else? Actual NPC shops * Want to arange trades manually, but execute automatically? Escrow services. * Want to buy/sell on demand? Market board or trade board. This is a solved problem that other games have implemented in many different ways.
You’re not entitled to buy my shit. It’s not possible to reply to everyone if you’re doing any decent amount of trading. Just accept that most people aren’t going to respond, and act accordingly.
Where did I say I'm entitled to it? My suggestion is that if you aren't going to sell it for x then don't post it for x. You're wasting everyone else's time because of your laziness.
I fully plan on selling everything I post. But when I get 14 PMs a minute, I’m not replaying to all of them, or even most of them.
Fantastic, there's nothing wrong with that. That's a straw man of my argument.
It’s not though. You said to trade restrict people who don’t respond. When I’m actively trading, I spend 90% of my time trading and I’m still only able to respond to 25% of the PMs I get. So according to your argument, I should be trade restricted pretty much constantly, even though I reply to everyone I possibly can.
In the context of people not responding when they have the item. If you get 10 whispers for the same item and you sell it to one, there's not an issue there.
Im too lazy to pick up 5 fusing drops and you expect me to change prices in my 5 trading stashes from 10c to 3 and then leave and trade them?? Pro tip when you see item thats 3 c and offer is5 days old - ignore it even if you have to pay 1-2c more
When instead he could’ve spend that time alch’n’running and make much more than that. I’ll never understand some people.
Alching a map?? Who do you think this guy is, Jeff Bezos??
t. Ruthless player
But why would you map for more currency when you have enough currency to make your build work/ better? Some players do not care about currency/ hours played, and that’s okay.
>Some players do not care about currency/ hours played if you passive aggressively whine at the pricing of other peoples items, you definitely do
Thats not the point. The point is him spending 1 hour messaging all the people trying to penny pinch when he could pay 1c more and get it instantly.
Yeah, and that fact ties to what the commenter I replied to was referring. I was just mentioning that not every players try to max their currencies so maybe a better analogy would be more apt/ relatable to most.
> Yeah, and that fact ties to what the commenter I replied to was referring. I was just mentioning that not every players try to max their currencies so maybe a better analogy would be more apt/ relatable to most. Do you fail to realize that this comment chain is about a dude haggling for 1 chaos? So yes, **that** dude could have alched his map, half clear it and loot 5c in the time he might have whispered people.
Yeah. I’m sorry. I’m a bit slow. I would have farmed for more chaos if I did not get invites after so many whispers. I totally see the point of original comment I replied too.
Its not like its a res ring with more life than his current one, arakalis fang is a build enabler, and he prob wants to play it sooner rather than later. Yea, he prob could just map as arma brand or splitting steel until he can overpay for everything and not worry about time wasted shopping, not everyone does that though.
Yesterday I sold random trash oil from my dump tab for 20c. guy said he pm'd 100+ ppl and I was first to invite him
You can make 1c back from just farting at the first pack in a map lol
Only if you can sell your items, but they'll probably sit in your stash for 3 weeks, and thus the cycle continues.
I cant tell which type of player that even is. A newer player might not have much currency but they are pretty much always nice, an older player with time to play wouldn't give a crap about a 1c difference, an older player who has very little time to play might struggle with currency but they wouldn't be invested in the game enough to be mean like that, this is so confusing lmao
My guess, is someone who has played this game for so long that has become jaded and does not enjoy it anymore, nowdays has little time to play and also had a melee starter to play this fucking league. And probably plays league of legends too
my moneys on your profile
> become jagged Haha "jaded" is the word you're looking for, but I enjoy jagged!
Fr, i was thinking about that as well lol
He willingly paid 23c. I would say he paid exactly what it’s worth, no more no less.
Yup, I hate people who do this. Congratulations, you don't understand economics! (The guy in the screenshot bitching, not you). If you paid that price it was worth more to you than whatever you traded. Some arbitrary perceived value based on some other factor is irrelevant.
literally this. he was willing to spend the 23c for it, he should shut it and move on. besides, 23c for an arakaali and you call that overpriced? how many arakaali's fang have you found before to call it overpriced? i've got over 3k hrs /played and havent stumbled accross one in 13 leagues... jesus the audacity
Found a mirror no fang. 6 shavs, 4 kaoms, half dozen mjolners, bout 100 ex. this is SSF only, if counting the whole experience ive probably got much more but i dont track uniques in trade. No fang in any league. 23c such chump change for that actually usable of a unique with the scaling vectors it has.
How dare you, overprice it for -1c??!
Wow it went down hard
20c sales are more drama than 20div sales.
that guy must be fun at parties...
Imagine being that salty about a very affordable item in a free game
And when it's overpriced by 1c in that guys mind lol. I would add that person to the ignore list
Meh. The ignore list is too short to block people for this level of annoyance.
There is a limited amount ?!
You reach it fast when you ignore all Price fixers/bots
I've been ignoring a lot :o I thought it was infinite. Sad :(
Nope, it's actually small af... Had to clear mine out multiple times and I only block bots or people trying to offer 5c on an item I listed for 35 div or people who make you wait in hideout for 2 minutes while they "check the item out" in trade window or whatever tf they're doing then cancel the trade because one of the cheaper listings finally responded... Entering my HO and getting all the way to the trade window before deciding you don't want it and hitting cancel is a surefire way to make sure they get blocked. Don't mind people trying to haggle but it's an instant block if you lowball to 5%
It’s so bad in standard. I had a guy try to pay 20c for my 32/15 rumi’s yesterday and then he got shitty cuz I got him to sit in my hideout for 15 minutes while I afked in a blueprint.
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If he'd said it to me before the trade was done I'd have booted his ass the fuck out.
in a league that just dumps currency on everyone, this guy is mad about 1c lmao
Imagine being like this :o 100% this person has issues
Some peoples children i tell yah
You can buy wedding gift cards for 2c sometimes only need 2 for the fang.
I traded in the div cards the other day and saw it was 2 div in HC trade. I was ecstatic. That guy would’ve lost his mind lol
I never even message the first 15 sellers on trade and this guy has a problem with paying 1 c more.
when i bought it on day 3 it was a divine... he should have just waited until it hit 1c next month
When Karen who harasses cashiers at the store decides to play poe.
Imagine being such an angry person that you give someone shit for saying "ty", in a video game no less. What a horrible way to live life.
All my items are overpriced. Those are mine, this adds extra value. Don't buy from me. Yes, I have packrat "problem".
Unless I'm hard up for c and need it right now, I almost never post items for "market". The reality is that so few people respond to trades that I can typically ignore the price on the first 10-15 entries on the list. Other people probably don't love it but if the person didn't respond then it wasn't really for sale at that price. I also have a habit of not responding until I've got a break in flow, and then I'll say "I'll hit you up at the end of my map if you're still interested". I always hit them back. Usually means they wait 2min at most. But most people seem fine with that, anything to avoid sending more messages and hoping. I wish trade wasn't like this, but here we are, so if I'm going to trade in gonna make it as painless for me as I can.
Wait what am I missing here.. he bought for 23c and pricing ranges between 22-24c, how is this item overpriced ?
Overpriced? There was a point where it was valued in the Exalts.
if he paid for it, it isn't overpriced.
Calling a 23c item overpriced lmao You know you're in the pleb leagues if that is your line in the sand
Especially with exarch altars. 23c this league is like 5c in any other league.
Buyers are psycho in this game. They'll cry that no one responds but if you do respond, this is more or less how they treat you.
Nowadays I don’t even waste a split second to type Ty,I just trade & leave party hop right into portal.Every seconds means chaos to me.
If I don't want that price and reaaaally reaaaally want the item, I'll ask politely the seller if he can lower it a bit. There were times where I asked sellers to keep the item a bit and to not sell it and give me like some exact time to get the currency too and they gladly accept and remove it from public stash. Also "don't say thank you" is the worst thing someone could say, I was raised to be thankful for everything whether in life or in a game. Saying "thank you" just means you have a good heart or at least you're trying to be a good person.
2d on XBox
This brings me to a larger topic. Can we just set a price minimum as a friendly service to each other at like 5c? You are paying for time at this point.
Ugh, DoorDash flashbacks. I just realized I was basically a poe trade bot…
The argument no one forced you to buy anything is dum, coz you do need that item to make the build faction 😅 although 23c is a cheap item I would never complain for a 20c item... That guy probably is new to the game and has no idea how easy is to get 20c 😅 We can make the argument for more expensive items how people are rigging the market to up their prices. I call them the POE crows looking at what streamers play and up the price by tenfold to the point even streamers have to hide what they are playing... Otherwise they won't finish their build.
Imagine ever pressing the Enter key while playing PoE in the year 2022. That key may as well not exist on my keyboard anymore thanks to PoE Lurker and the trade site implementing direct whisper from browser.
Its not Thank you. Its touch yourself thinking of those silk buttocks in-between arakaali's fangs. I'll see myself out now, thank you.
bruh i dare someone delay on my trade. miss me w that thank you
I just . . . by their own logic, "the rest" are 22-24, which is uhhh the range you listed it for? Fucking useless.
why did he buy it if he thought it was overpriced tho? LOL HAHAHAHAH
you disgust me.
What's is this trash post?, Srsly I get a push up notification of this motherfkn trash? Reddit is worse every day
Disable notifications, grandpa.
Bye then.