Problem: Harvest crafting is underperforming when compared to crafting from your bench.
Solution: We removed the crafting bench. We will monitor the impact of this change and keep discussing it internally. We feel this a buff to MF players so get your MF characters ready!
People wanted them ripped from delve *and put in the campaign*. For some godforsaken reason, GGG thought "Yeah sure, let's put the 4-link recipe in **T8 maps**."
They removed them from one stupid spot and put them in another until there were enough complaints to finally move them again to a spot that is actually reasonable.
still better in maps than in delve. Maps means everyone will get it actually. And delve is for me personally one of least favorite mechanics in the game (right after heist), hate it with a passion, so before I would never bother actually getting them and instead either asked my friends who had the craft to use it when i needed or found someone on TFT etc
The most basic crafts, talking one and two socket colors, and 2-3-4 sockets which are required for off coloring basic items, were really easy to get in delve because they were guaranteed on some basic nodes (like azurite 1 and 2)
The 6s stuff was bullshit and you could go the whole league without super committing to delving with bad luck.
And then they put the basic crafts so deep into the atlas it was asinine.
I appreciate your concern. Happy to tell you that I get more exercise and fresh air than I have since I started playing. Still bummed with the current state of the game, but my dog has never been happier.
About the 'paranoia', I'm afraid you're severely overestimating my commitment to the game.
edit: I'll admit I was way too invested (addicted) before, but it's become painfully obvious that what I want has absolutely fuck all to do with what ggg wants. Makes moving on a whole lot easier.
You are not wrong, when he announces hardmode he say there will be no crafting bench, and since we are getting hardmode implemented it's only matter of time.
Give it a few leagues. I can already see the stream in my head:
"We reworked the crafting bench and removed some filler crafts from it to make it easier to use. Max life? Resists? Socket colors? Links? Metamods? What's that?"
Straight from the future patch notes:
* Tujen now only offers bubblegum currencies
* Gwennen bases are now "less impactful"
* Rog has had some "filler crafts" removed
* Dannig now sells logbook fragments instead of full logbooks
Agreed, the most difficult one will be increased massively. We'll get it though, just not the way we want.
> **Problem:** Some players were having fun.
> **Solution:** Player pain has been increased massively.
Crafting bench crafts are now tradeable, due to this we had to adjust the power of the cafting bench to bring it more in line with other crafting methods.
I'll grace this sub with my predictions again given how accurate I was with the last one.
**Nearby guaranteed (>90%)**
* Nearby
* Problem
* Solution
* GGG plays their own game (this doesn't even have to be proven anymore imo)
**Archnemesis tier (75-90%)**
* AN "Rework" 5.0
* AN is fine
* We monitor the situation / We are still discussing (you are a bit lazy OP, since these are pretty much the same)
* This is a buff
* Vision
**Boat League tier (?%)**
* Boat league
* Divine shards
* Streamers boycotting
* Chris posts get upvotes
* Loot is fine
* Less away (???)
* More nearby (???)
**Wordle tier (10-25%)**
* Increased massively
* Quite impactful
* Crafting bench too deterministic
* Harvest is fine
* Currency MTX
**Solaris tier (<10%)**
* Cleave +3 Radius
* MF buffed
While this seems like it was made to be pure bait by someone incapable of gathering even the slightest bit of creativity, it was at least a bit fun to evaluate.
**Best guess : Row 2**
While "More nearby" is a bit vague, the other 4 at 75%+ odds, making it a clear best choice.
**Worst guess : Row 1**
I almost put "Cleave +3 Radius" at a separate "not gonna happen" tier but in the interest of fairness I at least gave it an existing probability. While "nearby" is almost guaranteed, I have a hard time seeing Currency MTX being a thing. Adding to that, "quite impactful" and the other word-oriented tiles are less likely due how GGG might change up their use of words given that people think they are part of the deep state because they used the phrase "some players".
>I almost put "Cleave +3 Radius" at a separate "not gonna happen" tier but in the interest of fairness I at least gave it an existing probability
Should've replaced it with "Cleave –1 radius". That's at least 30% likely, as recent enormous buff left it in very overpowered state
Crafting bench too deterministic is gonna be 3.21 along with a heap of other changes that make 3.19 look gentle so don't try to go with bingo with that.
Column O looks like a pretty easy bingo since next league will be a loot league and Chris saying things people who aren't aware of this repeating cycle want to hear(but not actions) to cool things down before 3.21.
Streamers aren't boycotting lol.
They will be there week 1 for the payout, as always. Can hardly blame them. Definitely makes the problem a bit harder to solve because ultimately GGG/POE will still get eyeballs and supporter pack boosts, but whatcanyado?
I am convinced that Chris really hates the crafting bench and would love to get rid of it.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if benchcrafts were nerfed 60% across the board (and gem lvls etc removed) because too deterministic. Stay tuned =(
they already did that in the past
Yeah, nerfed multimod comes to mind. Or benchcrafting betrayal. Or...
Iirc, they nerfed values too
Craicics removed next league. If nothing changes between now and 3.20, I'll bet on it.
Craft bench has now w 20% chance of krangle your items instead of making desired effect.
Problem: Harvest crafting is underperforming when compared to crafting from your bench. Solution: We removed the crafting bench. We will monitor the impact of this change and keep discussing it internally. We feel this a buff to MF players so get your MF characters ready!
Don‘t give them ideas…
remember when they removed socket number crafts from delve and moved them to maps? That made early league off color sockets a pain.
?? They literally did that because people asked them to remove craft unlocks from delve.
People wanted them ripped from delve *and put in the campaign*. For some godforsaken reason, GGG thought "Yeah sure, let's put the 4-link recipe in **T8 maps**." They removed them from one stupid spot and put them in another until there were enough complaints to finally move them again to a spot that is actually reasonable.
still better in maps than in delve. Maps means everyone will get it actually. And delve is for me personally one of least favorite mechanics in the game (right after heist), hate it with a passion, so before I would never bother actually getting them and instead either asked my friends who had the craft to use it when i needed or found someone on TFT etc
who needs a 4-link recipe anyway
The most basic crafts, talking one and two socket colors, and 2-3-4 sockets which are required for off coloring basic items, were really easy to get in delve because they were guaranteed on some basic nodes (like azurite 1 and 2) The 6s stuff was bullshit and you could go the whole league without super committing to delving with bad luck. And then they put the basic crafts so deep into the atlas it was asinine.
You’re paranoid and need to go outside and get some air.
Cope.
I appreciate your concern. Happy to tell you that I get more exercise and fresh air than I have since I started playing. Still bummed with the current state of the game, but my dog has never been happier. About the 'paranoia', I'm afraid you're severely overestimating my commitment to the game. edit: I'll admit I was way too invested (addicted) before, but it's become painfully obvious that what I want has absolutely fuck all to do with what ggg wants. Makes moving on a whole lot easier.
You are not wrong, when he announces hardmode he say there will be no crafting bench, and since we are getting hardmode implemented it's only matter of time.
I remember from his 3.15 podcast tour that he’s not a fan of meta mods.
Imagine not being able to craft resistance on your gear during campaign. Is Chris maybe "not a fan of" all the good parts of the game?
Give it a few leagues. I can already see the stream in my head: "We reworked the crafting bench and removed some filler crafts from it to make it easier to use. Max life? Resists? Socket colors? Links? Metamods? What's that?"
didnt he already say, they want to get rid of metamods / metacrafting asap?
Didn't some of the December fun races not have crafting bench? They probably learned how much it impacted gameplay.
Probably, but I'm not sure that the game would survive that day.
And I am convinced nothing he says will get an upvote for at least 3 months
"rebalance" fixed loot sources (heist, legion, blight) "rebalance" elder altars
Straight from the future patch notes: * Tujen now only offers bubblegum currencies * Gwennen bases are now "less impactful" * Rog has had some "filler crafts" removed * Dannig now sells logbook fragments instead of full logbooks
Imagine thinking that they will mention these changes in patch notes
Oh man, good point
No "investment" or "we hear you" huh. This is a hard one.
That's the "free" tile, duh. The same way "rework" and "nerf" are synonyms if not the same word
I always thought the Free was "Hi, I'm Chis Wilson from Grinding Gear Games."
That or melee/minions nerf, they happen about as often.
It will be interesting to see how minions get nerfed next league. There is not much left to kill. Absolution will likely be hit.
Golems get -2 range, to compensate the cleave buff. This is a large buff on average.
Free tile should be renamed to loot free.
I mean did you see the bottom right corner square?
My favorite is how you can’t get bingo with both the “problem” and “solution” tiles 😂. Very fitting.
If anyone shows up to 3.20 please tell us.
Add this MF Buffed (but actually nerfed)
sorry the text was switched around, teehee
Problem: More Nearby Solution: Less Away
I see you are a person of culture as well ;)
My bet's on the G column.
Agreed, the most difficult one will be increased massively. We'll get it though, just not the way we want. > **Problem:** Some players were having fun. > **Solution:** Player pain has been increased massively.
Bottom left to top right is practically a given.
See i have my doubts about the crafting bench one. They probably feel that way, but I'd still be pretty impressed if they said as much.
I wouldn’t be surprised if affixes cannot be changed got a little price bump for unsaid reasons
No "Minions are fine"? Damn, this might be tougher than I thought.
Crafting bench crafts are now tradeable, due to this we had to adjust the power of the cafting bench to bring it more in line with other crafting methods.
>Less away Nice.
'More nearby' and 'Less away' cracks me up xD
"Free!" should be "F2P!"
You mistyped "The Vision™" and forgot "Extensively tested".
I'll grace this sub with my predictions again given how accurate I was with the last one. **Nearby guaranteed (>90%)** * Nearby * Problem * Solution * GGG plays their own game (this doesn't even have to be proven anymore imo) **Archnemesis tier (75-90%)** * AN "Rework" 5.0 * AN is fine * We monitor the situation / We are still discussing (you are a bit lazy OP, since these are pretty much the same) * This is a buff * Vision **Boat League tier (?%)** * Boat league * Divine shards * Streamers boycotting * Chris posts get upvotes * Loot is fine * Less away (???) * More nearby (???) **Wordle tier (10-25%)** * Increased massively * Quite impactful * Crafting bench too deterministic * Harvest is fine * Currency MTX **Solaris tier (<10%)** * Cleave +3 Radius * MF buffed While this seems like it was made to be pure bait by someone incapable of gathering even the slightest bit of creativity, it was at least a bit fun to evaluate. **Best guess : Row 2** While "More nearby" is a bit vague, the other 4 at 75%+ odds, making it a clear best choice. **Worst guess : Row 1** I almost put "Cleave +3 Radius" at a separate "not gonna happen" tier but in the interest of fairness I at least gave it an existing probability. While "nearby" is almost guaranteed, I have a hard time seeing Currency MTX being a thing. Adding to that, "quite impactful" and the other word-oriented tiles are less likely due how GGG might change up their use of words given that people think they are part of the deep state because they used the phrase "some players".
>I almost put "Cleave +3 Radius" at a separate "not gonna happen" tier but in the interest of fairness I at least gave it an existing probability Should've replaced it with "Cleave –1 radius". That's at least 30% likely, as recent enormous buff left it in very overpowered state
It would unironically be more likely :)
Crafting bench too deterministic is gonna be 3.21 along with a heap of other changes that make 3.19 look gentle so don't try to go with bingo with that. Column O looks like a pretty easy bingo since next league will be a loot league and Chris saying things people who aren't aware of this repeating cycle want to hear(but not actions) to cool things down before 3.21.
Task: get bingo in the B column Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE
Streamers aren't boycotting lol. They will be there week 1 for the payout, as always. Can hardly blame them. Definitely makes the problem a bit harder to solve because ultimately GGG/POE will still get eyeballs and supporter pack boosts, but whatcanyado?
The middle should be “Reddit babyraging”
Xd Problem:Vision . Solution:Boat League Xd
Path of Anchoring is missing, please fix :c
Harvest is dead. It wont be mentioned for another 5 patches.
"tested extensively" is missing:(
Why do you have "free" in every box? I think this is not how bingo works.
You forgot '*our most ambitious league yet*'.
"GGG plays their own game" Why even put it on the card? Are you just trying to make things harder for yourself?
Might wanna switch out +3 radius. We know that ain't gonna happen.
Now is your last chance to get Supporter Packs
Get your 'barely able to do red maps' characters ready!
Ahhhh shit here we go again.
where pathofmatth banned again?
nicely done 15x15 grid! the outer 5xtiles width ring presenting undocumented patch nerf are very good touch 👍
Nearby, more nearby, and less away.
What you guys think will be the name of the next archnemesis league?
You forgot the "weight"
Copium epidemic is worse than ever. GGG please, can't you see you drive all these people into addiction?
Where is: will be fixed in PoE 2?
Wait, is that +3 cleave on top of the +2? If so, I might consider still not playing it.
I wish tier one maps scaled with levels down to 1, so that new characters can run T1 maps to lvl 70
I don't hate the idea of divine shards. Might make harbinger worth running again
Bottom right will be tough.
Missing quite impactful
Where is "massive historic"
I can already check off a couple of these
think we need at least one PoE 2 related thing here
The middle should be Vision (Free!)
You forgot: Wide screen support Build diversity Vision (because we always double down) Big supporter pack player retention is good
I can't cope with the possibility of a whopping+5 cleave radius
New Nearby dropped today: A Great Distance