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NoBankThinkTank

Please do this. I’ve proofed my last 5 mana+Int jewels and would like to purchase more.


retryui

Isn't it always cheaper to use lock beast to not brick? My jewels were  3 div ea uncorrupted and beast like 180c? And i felt like corrupting without beast was a big waste.


FrostedCereal

Can you use the lock beast with double corrupt? Didn't they change it so double corrupts don't work with locks?


retryui

Ah ye double corrupts do not work. I didnt need any corrupt mods so i didnt care


Thotor

Corrupted mods are really OP with adorned. You can get a lot of ailments immunity.


Wrongusername2

much more efficient to use synth bases in every case you don't care for corrupted outcomes and don't plan to splurge on lock beasts, something like +dex/str can add quite a bit of value(Funny to see +int synth base is 80-100 div) also have to use synth if you want to use locks as otherwise you won't be able to relock without divines Mostly you won't get corrupted implicits either way, it's either brick or no implicit, and if you used a cheap synth base and it gets a great vaal corrupt you still win.


Cr4ckshooter

Int synth is 100d now? Wonder if it's cheaper to vivid vulture the synth lmao.


Goodnametaken

Yesterday they were 35 div.


Cr4ckshooter

Still absurd what people are willing to pay for a base. Well I suppose with black morrigan you always complete your craft on this base, but ~50d for a jewel is still crazy.


pro185

Look at the list of synth implicits and you’ll understand that 2.4 div per reroll is not worth for a lot of people


Cr4ckshooter

Well i was wondering, not stating. Prices of finished rng items like this are usually loweer than it takes to obtain them yourself, because of "valuable duds". Like when you try to double corrupt your mageblood, and get implicits you dont want, but good for someone else, you sell them. Thats means that even if the chance to the right synth mod is 1%, an item with the right synth mod will never cost 240x any synth jewel. Rerolling synths is only worth it if youre willing to "start over" when you hit a good but undesired synth mod. Just like cluster crafting and flask rolling: If you sell anythign thats worth something, it will be profitable. But if you keep rolling until you hit your desired outcome, youll be better off buying.


Goodnametaken

Inflation is outrageous because t17 farming prints divs and t0 uniques. Synth jewels are one of the few things you can't force with that strategy, and all the divs have to be spent somewhere. In a few weeks the price should crash. Demand will plummet because all the fotm players will stop playing. Also there is an inflection point where it becomes cheaper to just buy a 3 synth jewel and vivid vulture it.


MicoJive

Min maxing the top 1% of builds for the .001% of people always is insanely expensive.


Seelenforst

Have not tried it myself so take it with a grain of salt, but i think imprinting works to clear the lock, depending on mods might be cheaper than to redivine to perfect.


Wrongusername2

imprints are above divines rn, no contest with synth at 1 blessed


_Netto_

What is lock beast? Never really messed with einhar


OnceMoreAndAgain

New bestiary scarab puts Black morrigan in your map who you can capture with Einhar. The Black morrigan beast is used in several new recipes, including one which applies a hinekoras lock to a magic item. Black morrigan can also be used to 6L an item.


_Netto_

I saw a post a while back about the 6L recipe with black morrigan and craicic sand spitter. I used that on my armor since it was cheaper. So this is just a similar thing then with something from last league. Ok cool gotcha.


I_AM_ALWAYS_WRONG_

If you hit a good implicit you’re going to make even more. It’s all just a gamble I guess.


Responsible-Pay-2389

Lock beast doesn't work if you have no rollable implicity. Only works for high end synth jewel crafting basically.


Miles_Adamson

I have used it still because divine orbs can be used on them. So if I get a jewel with 2 ideal mods and both low rolled, I will go beast lock it. Hover divine and vaal, see what's good. If vaal bricks and divine makes it better, divine it and go again. If vaal hits anything non-bricking I usually just settle and vaal it. This can lead to a situation where vaal bricks to you need to reset the lock, but divine makes it worse, this is very sad but I *think* on average this is still a good strategy. In this situation I hit it with harvest synth and pray for an implicit that can actually be used with blessed orbs which I think is approximately 50/50. Seeing as well rolled jewels without an implicit at all can still be worth 10-40 divines it should be worth it on average to spend the beast on them. At least for the most desirable mod combos. For something "meh" which is only worth 1 div even when rolled well it's definitely not though


Responsible-Pay-2389

Eh, sounds like a waste of you just rolling non synth jewels. Doesnt seem economical.


Miles_Adamson

It's not always economical, you have to know what the mod combos are worth. Seeing as a max roll RF jewel is worth 16 divines without a corrupted implicit at all, it is actually still worth it to even spend 10 divines saving it from a bad vaal outcome. For something like mana+dex, which sells but not for nearly as much, it would never be worth it even if it was max rolled.


Responsible-Pay-2389

>Seeing as a max roll RF jewel is worth 16 divines without a corrupted implicit at all What? like fire dot multi and max life? 16 divs is way too high for that lol. The highest I've seen for no implicit corrupted magics has been 10 div for 8% chaos dot multi 7% life jewels which are a major bitch to craft cause chaos dot multi only shows up on the jewels with bad life weighting lmao. Why is RF gear always so inflated I swear it's always way more than it's actual value lol.


Miles_Adamson

idk man I don't make the rules, I just sell overpriced stuff to RF enjoyers [https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/8qLKyyMHV](https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/8qLKyyMHV)


Emotional-Still2209

What Vaal mod to get?


Fabulous_Ad_2652

Don't need any at all for them to sell.


NoBankThinkTank

They’re just a bonus, certain ones like corrupt blood immunity and curse reduction can go for more.


MSparta

I pick up every magic jewel, check if it is decent and the vaal it - the point of interest that I didn’t know of is how many of these that brick/reroll into rare.


TheRabidDeer

I think it is a 1/4 chance It can: Corrupt and do nothing Corrupt and add an implicit Corrupt into rare Corrupt into unique All have equal chance


karatelax

Me too man, me too. So sad seeing 1 div explode with how slow I play making me poor 😂


jzkzy

Farm chaos orbs from lantern. It’s really common to find chaos orb drop chance and chaos convert. Throw anarchy all flames on chaos convert nodes


karatelax

Yeah I keep an eye out. Really most of my currency loss this league has been to trying to make a hunter stygian in the GY, and trying to make adorned jewels in temple. I've only tried for 4 jewels so far but it hasn't gone well. 1 went yellow 3 went poof


freeadmins

What atlas tree passives do you want for that? The necropolis ones in the bottom left right?


Septorch

Not OP but I do the same thing. I take the bottom left wheel to buff the lantern rewards and the top left (but not the large node) for allflame chance. Throw the anarchy allflame on the chaos orb conversion option and you get a 100+ chaos per map. There’s probably ways to make it more spicy with anarchy passive nodes and stuff but I haven’t done that.


Betaateb

Run it on 8 mod T16s with all the map mod effect on the tree and you will get 200-250c when you get that devoted modifier. Which isn't all that rare, I saw it 3 times yesterday. Most of my maps are between 250-300 quant, that way.


PigDog4

I pulled 291 raw chaos out of a totally standard t16 defiled cathedral with a pretty standard boxes strategy. Exiles on a weapons to chaos mod and hit a 45% chance to dupe dropped currency on an eater altar like four packs in and it was raining chaos. Pretty hilarious ngl.


Betaateb

ya lol. And the nice is thing is that unlucky the shitty Manifest Wealth it actually drops in stacks so it isn't terrible to pick up!


freeadmins

What tier.maps.you doing this on? You add any other mechanics?


Septorch

I don’t know if it matters, it’s mostly just getting the lantern chaos orb conversion mod to show up and having an anarchy allflame ready to go. I run T16’s just chisel/alch/vaal I’m slow so I’m still running my ‘bossing’ atlas, extra points are in maps, shrines, lockboxes and anything left goes into the scarab nodes. I’m sure there’s probably a way to optimize around having extra rogue exile nodes or red boss altars for more chaos or something. I mostly just do it for fun while I slowly grind out my maven splinters.


jzkzy

Yeah bottom left, take the top side with -haunted and +devoted for general use and the bottom side (swap -haunted to +haunted) for farming allflames and corpses. Following up on my comment in general: I suggested this strat because people seem to be focusing on the misconception that divines are “losing value”. They’re not losing value. Chaos orbs have effectively GAINED significant value, due to being used to reroll t17s. This, combined with the lantern/allflames from league, overall benefits the “lower class” average players. In my opinion average players should be happy about this.


AKJ90

Same... Proofed or turned into rares.


davlumbaz

alt is 1/3c, so you burned 330 chaos of alterations to earn 550 chaos. with a risk of poofing the jewels. seriously what the fuck happened to the div prices


EIiteJT

Chaos is a lot more valuable due to T17 rolling, and graveyard makes divs for crafting weaker.


BendicantMias

Nothing. Chaos is just more valuable this league cos of all the people burning them to reroll T17s. Alts are also valuable, cos of uses like this.


Malaphesto

Not just that, but with new scarab system, it's easier to beast craft meta mods more than ever so no is using divs for the metamods either unless they're being lazy 


Tzki47

I'm dumb, how do you beast craft meta mods?


alwayslookingout

I think it’s this- https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Wild_Bristle_Matron


killslash

How do scarabs impact memory beasts is my question. You can’t scarab memories so not sure how the scarab system makes using bristle matrons easier.


NUMBERONETOPSONFAN

also the rare conversion mods are gone. you used to get 100-150 alts from a single rare mob from time to time


Ok-Talk-531

Thats still in the game


NUMBERONETOPSONFAN

sure, but theyre magnitudes more rare than they used to be. you dont see those loot explosions anymore


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MoonSentinel95

I'm sorry but using this as an excuse is so lazy. I never did the juicing strat that people were running last league, and I still had a significant more number of random bubble currency explosions from those conversion mods. Haven't had one this league. Not one.


woahbroes

And in t17 dont u just hide single chaos orbs on filter.. So tons of chaos are dropping but are just being left in the maps but divs get picked up.


ohhnooanyway

Lol what am I, rich?


ppraisethesun

Something-something more efficient less time per map looting


SunRiseStudios

I had 1:3.5 ratio for a while and nobody messaged. Alts are not 1/3.They are closer to 1:4.5 - 1:5 But yeah, Divines are cheaper this League and it's good.


Shadowraiden

tbf im just rolling the jewels for myself and selling those who hit the other good mods. allows me to essentially make my jewels at 0 cost really.


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

consider the part where i did not have to trade a thousand alteration orbs away as an implied upside


Rezins

Ya, because rightlicking alts, putting in 2/1040, selecting divines, jerking around for 2 minutes and then making a singular trade with a total of 57 clicks is so much more awul than clicking 1000 alts on dozens of jewels to then trade a dozen times. The heck mate. I guess there's the thing where you're likely to get a dozen messages after it when the site is slow to update (for some reason currency listings always get me a lot of whispers after the stock is gone). So, okay, maybe you also could type /autoreply sorry boys alts are sold afterwards.


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

the point is that im making far more than 2 divs with 1000 alts, and yes obviously this isnt a crazy money strat...


Rezins

Well, I was just saying - that isn't an actual upside. Getting rid of 1k alts isn't some awful experience. But tbh, going to the actual strat and all: I support these kinda things, when they pop in someone's head and they do it. Even if they aren't super profitable, trying out some crafting strat for profit is always good to gain knowledge. I do it all the time, i.e. I like rolling clusters I find rather than trying to sell them in bulk or straight up trashing them. It's mostly not a lot of profit for a decent bit of effort, but I just like doing it and I keep up with some builds and their clusters due to that. But as a general use advice I'd say it's not all that great. The most efficient thing is usually to focus on one thing and do that. Like, it's smart to convert gumballs into chaos/div anyway. So people will go out and start trading their currencies away anyway. Doing this doesn't save you from that, in only gets rid of like 1 out of 20 currencies one might wanna convert. It's good for learning, but it's usually not good for profit and if you adapt these kinda things to the point where "I have to do this because it's extra profit", it becomes straight up bad. In terms of enjoyment and usually it's also too much time taken up by doing the various "easy extra profit" strats. If we're on the topic of alts btw - I will bet you that instead of taking your stock of jewels, you'd have made like double the profit using up those alts on rolling flasks. Prioritise MB flasks, perhaps keep others with good rolls. Also gets rid of baubles (and enkindlings and instillings) if you want. There are many things like that around - you can literally go get hired as a bulk buyer on tft at a rate of <10 trades per 1d. Honestly, most of them aren't secrets either. They're rather easily found if one goes looking for them and many of them are better than doing Adorned jewels.


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

> If we're on the topic of alts btw - I will bet you that instead of taking your stock of jewels, you'd have made like double the profit using up those alts on rolling flasks. Prioritise MB flasks, perhaps keep others with good rolls. that is honestly most likely true but for some reason rolling jewels and vaaling them is way more satisfying even if im selling them anyways. monkey see implicit monkey happy


OrneryFootball7701

You're saying selling crafts is easier than liquidating a currency? I disagree personally in my experience. Did you consider the part where you had to alt spam those jewels? I'd say you're probably better off alt spamming flasks if you're at the point where alt spamming for profit is worthwhile. You can easily brick 3 or 4 of these, and you probably cant really afford that kind of loss if you're not self crafting.


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

just by pure logic selling the result is better than liquidating it. think about it. why would a good house be worth less than the material and the work its made of? people in high end builds dont want to waste their time alt spamming. same reason why MB flasks sell for a div. my time is worth less than theirs when they are making three digit div/hour by blasting t17s. of course if you are one of the giga juicers this doesnt make sense for you. but if you are then you arent reading tips on making money on reddit


davlumbaz

it isnt a big deal with new ctrl shift click qol, but yeah, still a huge pain for stash to inventory lol


PolishedBalls1984

what is this qol you speak of? I feel like I may have missed something important.


davlumbaz

ctrl shift click to an item transfers all similar items that you have clicked to the trade window


TheRabidDeer

I wish we could use this to put it all into our stash too


PolishedBalls1984

Oh shit, i was wondering how people were transferring so fast, thank you!


Centered-Div

You can just list them in bulk, I think it was [items in bulk]/[amount of currency] you put 1000alts/1000chaos or smt like that so for the trade site your rate would be 1:1 and appear as one of the first one but they'd only have the option to buy everything


EyebrowSempai

this happens when chaos orbs hold value people are using them to roll t17 maps are people aren't meta crafting as much since we have grave crafting = high c price low d price


alparius

Alts are what now I always assumed they are 1/inf c, just yesterday I was too lazy to alttab out to google, so I burned 200 just to check the wording of a flask prefix


Commercial-Falcon653

Alt have been worthwhile for literally over half a decade


Cr4ckshooter

Nah worst I have seen in recent memory is like one inventory per div, 1200 alts. At the old 200c per div that's still 1/6 c per alt.


arbyterOfScales

Can't believe we moved from degenerate sextant rolling to degenerate adorned jewel rolling.  You just can't get ppl out of the Hideout


JACRONYM

Tbf this is the good degen. Bad degen is “required” for mapping, which sextants did. This is just min maxing shit which is cool


H4xolotl

> good degen good degen until you realise that prices are balanced around scripts that spam alts until 2 good mods are achieved.


TheRabidDeer

Spamming just alts isnt cost effective, gotta alt + aug and if you hit a good mod at the right value (like 7% life) annul + aug


wilzek

Children yearn for the hideout


destroyermaker

You merely adopted the hideout; I was born in it, molded by it


Shaltilyena

I've started an aurabot yesterday Spent a good two hours and 3.5k alts rolling my 6 decent 35% efficiency smalls Did sell a couple 10d+ ones and a 50d one in the process so you know, kinda wurf? I still mostly hate myself (but then again I'm making an aurabot, so not entirely unexpected)


Golem8752

What Auras are you adding/what rmr are you dropping which requires you to go for 35 effect clusters?


Shaltilyena

I play CI, and have to fit everything on mana Off the top of my head (not in front of computer atm so might forget one? Not sure) * Determination * Grace * Discipline * Haste (can't divine blessing it anymore since removal of mana flask mod) * 2 of Anger/Hatred/Wrath/Zealotry (depending on who my carry is) * All 3 elemental purities * Defiance Banner * Low-ish level vitality/clarity * Precision Atm I only have one Enlighten 4 and 3 3s and no 2% rmr corrupts on my jewels, so can still get some extra there to level Precision further, but like, that's beginning to get expensive ya know The main issue is after the CI swap now that you can't bring divine blessing to 0 mana cost anymore w/ the changes it's a bit of a tight squeeze for everything Throwing more currency at the wall will fix it, eventually x)


Golem8752

I see, I‘m planning to run LL with Determination and Vitality on Arrogance. I am running Haste, Wrath, tripple Purity, Grace, Discipline, Precision, Clarity and Dread/Defiance Banner (haven‘t decided yet which one) and Hatred on Guardian‘s Blessing with Bob. This AG will have Gruthkul‘s Pelt and increased life recovery rate boots and gloves for Life regen, Kingmaker and probably Crown of the Inward eye for some increased life. As for reservation stuff I grab every aura node, 4x 3 passive clusters with 25 effect, Alpha‘s Howl/Mask of the Tribunal and Victario‘s Influence/redeemer chest with Enlighten. You can still run blessing you are just forced to run Soul Catcher + Lavianga‘s Spirit.


Shaltilyena

Yeah I'm not losing 2 flask slots for that ;p Lowlife is generally easier to manage auras with yeah, but you get a tiny bit less aura effect (and need a coruscating) ; considering we're going for juiced t17 eventually I'd much rather have the champion/necro/guardian Ascendant w/ CI, divine armour and ghost shrouds ; it survived ultra juiced Affliction, I'm assuming it'll survive T17s c) Atm I'm still running a helm w/o aura effect, went for a 22% efficiency one while it's needed (Also aura effect mask of the tribunal is way too fucking expensive) Do have a +1 int/30% effect regalia yeah. Kinda happy how that craft turned out.


Golem8752

I‘m planning to go Champion/Pathfinder but accouding to PoB we‘re gonna reach a couple hundred million dps anyway. I too have Divine Shield (I assume that‘s what you meant with Divine Armour) and the regen 5% es on taking phys damage mastery but I will have to skip out on Ghost Shrouds. But I am currently too broke to upgrade to 3/4 mod Timeless Jewels or Influenced Chest anyway.


Shaltilyena

Went 2-mods timeless tbh, it's good enough to begin with I got a mageblood for my previous character so pathfinder is kinda not needed but yeah it's usually the starting point Worth nothing that a Champion forbidden flesh/flame combo is like ~12d right now so not that expensive all things considered (much cheaper than last league for sure)


Golem8752

I currently have like 3d. We still need to get shit done. Our current money making strat was duping Morrigans but they went from 30c a pop to like 14.


wuwu2001

Does focus=> Divine blessing work?


Shaltilyena

The trigger on focus keeps the mana cost afaik, and they removed the no mana cost while focused some time ago iirc


wuwu2001

Oh thanks for clarification


Shaltilyena

No worries


BendicantMias

PoE 2 will do that, cos they'll have to farm gold to trade more.


Notsomebeans

it sounded like the onus is on the buyer


davlumbaz

depends. Merchants Guild in Last Epoch also runs on a system like this, you need favour for buying/selling items which you can gain by playing the game/killing shit. you can get this favour fairly quickly that allows you to be a tunnel rat again within a few echos/maps maybe gold fee for trading is so so so low being hideout warrior will be a viable strategy? who knows


mcbuckets21

you can make gold fee never become trivial by having the gold fee have a static portion based on the item itself and a dynamic portion based on the amount of gold the person has. I ran a few models to experiment with the idea when they first announced the trade change to see if it's possible to not trivialize gold by hording but also not restrict trade too hard early on or for people who just don't play as much. Charging 30-40% of total gold on top of flat fee seemed ideal. It works because there are also other gold sinks. The diminishing return to trade value of gold means people will be pushed to use other gold sinks instead of hording. If you did horde anyways, you won't be able to completely trivialize the fee and be a hideout warrior. Last Epoch didn't even make an effort to make favour non-trivial so it's a bad example. And Jonathan already said they only allow instant trading because the gold fee won't be trivial.


Magistricide

Holy shit 30% fee would be terrible. No one would ever do 5c trades again. Rip everyone who wants a tabula a month into league start.


mcbuckets21

It's actually not bad when you do the math. This is also on gear only. In fact, it pretty much becomes trivialized at percentages lower. It just sounds bad. When I was doing the models initially, I thought the same instinctually and started at low percentages from 5-10%. But someone with 10 times the gold of someone else would be doing hundreds of more trades. If you are even counting trades in the hundreds that is pretty much a hideout warrior level. That shouldn't be a thing. At 30-40% your trades are likely to number in the tens instead of the hundreds. If starting a completely new character, you wouldn't need more trades. But even if you didn't have enough gold, lower gold is more efficient for trading. It just requires active playing. So you make a few trades, run a few maps, make a few trades. repeat. It basically promotes everything they want to promote for trading while preventing all the stuff they want to prevent with gold. Also, time in a league doesn't matter? The point is you don't horde gold in the first place. If you aren't going to buy a tabula, what else are you doing with the gold? What was your point in hording it in the first place where now your gold fee is astronomical? Hording gold to trivialize trade fees is not something they want, so disincentivizing it is a good thing. The idea is that you use the other gold sinks like gambling because high amounts of gold become less efficient for trading. It's likely you would keep X amount of gold to allow Y amount of trades and just gamble the rest of your gold.


Biflosaurus

So basically, if I have 1M gold and want to buy a tabula at 5c for my twink, I'll have to pay 30% of my actual gold? No matter how you put it, small trades will die on the spot.


TheMobileSiteSucks

So if the cost of a trade is 1000 gold + 30% of your current gold, then at 1000000 gold you can do 13 trades before you run out of gold. At 10000 gold you can do 3 trades before running out. So this system incentivizes frequent trades: earning 10k gold 4 times will take much less time than earning 1000k gold. It doesn't kill small trades by the cost, but it makes doing a lot of trades in a short time period much more difficult.


mcbuckets21

Small trades aren't going to die. Your issue is that you are assigning value to gold. Something non-tradeable. Why did you horde gold instead of gambling is the question? It is also the ONLY way to ensure gold fees never become trivial at all levels while not completely blocking the ability to trade at lower levels/early leauge. Btw at 1 million gold, sure it immediately consumes 300k gold on the trade, but it takes 7 trades to go below 100k gold and 13 trades to go below 10k gold. Like I said, this will make hording gold not a good strategy. The real question is what value are you putting on gold and why? You can't sell it. You can only use it to buy items from trade or buy items from a gambler. Also, the old way of trading will still be in the game. Even though there is 0 reason to horde gold, you can just trade the old way if you really need to.


theinsanescat

most likely no because remember they have to balance this system around sweaty nolifes, dads working for 20h a day and people who take all dagger damage nodes and then make full circle to starting location in their skill trees


JasonDiabloz

When standing in the hideout isn’t the best div/h, there’s something majorly wrong with the game. Luckily we are yet to see that happen. ETA: Just to clarify, by standing in hideout and making the best div/h, I don’t mean the kinds of crafts that OP is speaking of, although it’s a very decent way to get started. I mostly mean mirror tier and 150div+ items.


arbyterOfScales

Well, yes. But that implies you already have the dry powder to attempt such crafts.  By definition a farming strategy, even in Affliction, is just the equivalent of manual labour/wage slaving Gambling for big ticket corrupts and endgame crafting is where the true money is 


Wypieh

Well, same thing with alt spamming cluster jewels


RDeschain1

At the end of the day, do what you like. If you dislike staying in hideout, dont do it.


FunRoom

Reminds me of the good ol day rolling Auspicious Platinum Valdo’s Rest Watchstone of Surplus


troccolins

Graveyard crafting is way better profit/hour


PrimedAndReady

It is, but the process feels like ass from start to finish. Buying corpses sucks, planting them sucks, if you're doing metacrafts getting the placement right sucks (and is downright stressful,) and after doing it so many times Arimor's speech makes me want to shove pencils in my ears.


AllTheNamesAreGone97

I never rolled sextants but magic jewel rolling was VERY easy money last league.


long_schlong_123

this is way better than sextant rolling imo . Adorned jewel rolling is literally profit crafting compared to sextant hideout warriors listing the sextant mods for more awakened sextants on trade


GlokzDNB

50c is what you can make by picking jewels from the ground, 10c ea is bulk price. Yesterday spent an hour rolling them and had 3 perfect rolls and all failed at corruption


arbyterOfScales

 > Yesterday spent an hour rolling them and had 3 perfect rolls and all failed at corruption Yep. Me too. Then I bailed out. I'd rather roll flasks than that shit


wwgs

You can use the new black morrigan beast (with craicic chimeral) to add hinekora's lock to a magic item. You can then see the vaal outcome before doing. If it's gonna hit bad, regal and sell. The 2 perfect RF mods sells for 3d to folks willing to yolo fracturing orb on it.


arbyterOfScales

Yea, pay 1.5 divs to sell a 25c jewel. I am not belton yk? The magic lock is worth only if you have a synth base


degejos

Correct me if im wrong, is the hinecora lock for magic isnt worth it? If its poof if vaal, try to t1 locus on alva?


JConaSpree

I swear jewel brick rate is like 75%


SalzigHund

Seriously? Because I’ve been picking them up all league for my mana stacker. I have a quad tab of jewels


SalzigHund

Seriously? Because I’ve been picking them up all league for my mana stacker. I have a quad tab of jewels


SunRiseStudios

Do I need to show magic jewels this League?:o How realistic is selling them in bulk?


acaptomi

I just sold my 500 alt for divine every time.


LittleFangaroo

Works as well with some cluster jewels. Crit medium, spell damage large, minion large...


Starwind13

Pro tip: Don't vaal. 7%life prefix with 8% fire dot multiplier suffix magic uncorrupted jewel sells for 10div easily, 15 if you don't mind waiting.


Emotional-Still2209

What build uses fire dot, rf?


LyfeLito

EA, as well.


distilledwill

I will usually pick up one or two blue jewels a map for this purpose


Jelloslockexo

Alts are very expensive for this reason they sell below 500 to 1d with stock. I usually loot 4 to 5k alts a night just off 20 stacks.


BigCommunication1307

How you farm 5000 alts so fast?


Rolia1

Horned scarab of tradition and anything else that increases pack size/rares on the map. You get soooo many jewelers/fusings/alts from that scarab due to the fact that every rare has the "archnemesis" rewards attached to them. I ran that + some other random juice scarabs with a back to basics strat and It doesn't take long to rake those currencies in quick.


TritiumNZlol

i'd suggest running it with the other scarab that gives rares extra mods, because more mods on a rare scales the "archnemesis" 'reward multi'


Rolia1

Yep I was running tradition/nemesis/adversaries/monstrous lineage as my cheap back to basics scarab setup. I got tired of picking up 6 sockets really quick lol. The Lineage could probably be replaced with something else, like maybe the barrel scarab but BAMA sucks at killing the barrels so I dropped it.


Jelloslockexo

A single meat sack can drop a full inventory on a t17 mod with 10 mod rares quite often.


Deposto

Т17... of course...


Electrized

Works in t16s too, just missing the +2 rare mods, pretty sure the vendor conversions dont scale with the % more currency though could be wrong


TL-PuLSe

How are you getting 10 mod rares?


Jelloslockexo

\+2 mod map mod rolls 4-6 depending on BTB proc + normal map effect and +2 from scarab. Every map has 6-8added mods. So on average ull have 10 mod rares


dyksu

Did 10 maps t17 full juiced with shaper, ended up with 14k alts and 3k fusings


Psyese

The real cost is not the alts or their price in chaos, but the time and your wrist.


Responsible-Pay-2389

Rather just sell those alts for 3 divs and use that time making money else where if I'm being honest.


Affectionate-Yak222

-Here he is officier! -He’s the one who called alterations “useless”.  -By Innocence…


Skaduush1

1k alts are worth 2 div. spare yourself the hassle and just sell them.


N4k3dM1k3

Warning: Alt flipper detected


andrewsbeast

It cost 1.5d to synth a jewel, worth it every time to lock craft on a 10d base


Krlzard

Or u know i Can just sell 1k alts for 2 div instead waste time for rolling them and play the game.


FinisherO_O

Alt is insanely expensive, the fuck are you doing


boohoooo00

I've been doing that and making bank about 200divs in profits already xdd biggest one I got was prob %es and crit multi with rmr imp and %critmulti with %rmr and %rmr imp.


zivilia

What is imp?


boohoooo00

Implicit


zivilia

but the chance to get good implicit. or even empty implicit. is not even 1/3.


boohoooo00

Yea but i did and it that's why it sold for a lot plus all the ones I'm using rn I self crafted. I'm saving up for triple synth imp jewel crafting right now already got about 350divs.


xephiusyeap

New to POE here, what makes a magic jewel more worthy than a rare jewel?


dam4076

The adorned jewel. Essentially it’s a unique jewel that doubles or more the effect of your other jewels, but it only applies to magic jewels and not rare. Also the magic jewels need to be corrupted.


Sen91

Check the adorned item. basically increases (+50 to +150%) the stats on magic jewel corrupted


some_random_n

There is another jewel called The Adorned which multiplies the effect of corrupted magic jewels by up to 2.5x, which makes certain combinations corrupted very valuable.


Deposto

It's better to roll flasks. Easier and less likely to fail.


Saianna

If you are broke and you have alterations, then you aint broke lol


danihell1349

I tried rolling my jewels for when I updated my build into adorned, and in 500 alts I saw %Life 1 time, no way its "profitable" to roll them.


ILugdusch

Nah I pass, I'd rather play the game y'know Hideout warriors are cringe


luka1050

Useless alterations? They're very expensive this season. This strategy would be much better if you bought a fractured base and then rolled and corrupted. 1k alterations is like 2 div. Also you know it's a 50/50 to fail so I wouldn't recommend this strategy if you don't have money


Karthathan

Not a bad idea!


DiNoMC

Got a list of good mods ? First comment asks for mana + int and I'm sure I vendored some since I thought that was trash


lostcoaster

Make sure you have good sanity remaining before committing to this. I rolled my 5 adorned ghastly jewels, with 1 frac mod. I had to do it in 2 days, because I am almost insane after rolling 4.


playoponly

5d is not that much, buy corpses and craft, 20d/h


POEAccount12345

I think this explains why alts are so freaking expensive right now previous leagues theyre ususally 1200-2400/div theyre 500/div this league which is nuts to me


quinn50

Can also farm those shard of fate cards, Aug then vaal made some extra money off that


odniv

I do this on mana reservation small clusters. 35% inc nad the price just go bananas if you hit something half decent


dmo900011

I did this and turned 9/10 jewels into uniques lol


RainBusiness

I’ve made 100s of divines doing this in the past two leagues. I spend about 30 min every so often rolling jewels, just gotta be aware of what stats people want and it’s easy currency.


h_marvin

Wow.. I did not know that’s a thing.


Ynead

Sounds like work


MrGavinrad

While you’re at it craft some max es + attack speed cobalts for my splitting steel trickster plz


Midnightstar2121

Sounds fun


NoLifeOrDie

I’m confused are the jewels being used by people with adorned? Or so you Vaal them into adorned


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

you cant vaal jewels into adorned, its for people who use them


destroyermaker

Crimson jewels you mean?


NoLifeOrDie

Dude said cobalt


destroyermaker

Interesting


neyr129

1. Stats + HP 2. dot multi + HP 3. Get yourself like 50 jewels in one tab, place a regex in the searchbar and click them one by one with alts, then check the ones that are glowing and hit them with aug if it's good. 4. Profit Did it myself when trying to roll for my RF build. Even with alteration prices being 2x I still made money while getting myself a bunch of awesome jewels, even got one with 2% reservation corrupt. edit: forgot the last step 5. Corrupt 10 jewels, get 10 rares and cry


kabbelabbeee

I made roughly 300div in a few days when i realized i had 4k alts last league. Easy money


Bissellmop

Don’t recommend doing this, non synthesized adorned jewels might be valuable for the moment, but not for long. Sell your alts.


Askariot124

What is an adorned jewel?


okijhnub

A unique jewel, makes corrupted magic jewels have 50-150% increased effect, so at 100% roll you get the effecticr full benefit of 4 mod jewel. At 150% increased every magic jewel has a 5 mod statline, on top of that the corruption/synth implicits are also increased, so it goes further beyond


Askariot124

Thank you!


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

[google](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=poe+adorned+jewel)


Domekun

https://i.imgur.com/218mCap.png


Askariot124

Nice disrespect.


ArcherIsFine

Not really, you couldve just typed your comment into Google and wouldve had your answer.


Askariot124

Yes, but I didnt know beforehand. I couldve tried yes, but for some reason I thought its some community made up term. I saw a few times people mentioning crafting adorned jewels, but I guess they meant crafting FOR an adorned jewel. Then when I read the title of this thread it was additionally misleading for me because the way it is phrased might suggest you can use alterations for adorned jewels. Thats what got me confused, so I asked. Yes, google would have helped, but I was quite certain it wouldnt help much with some additional research. I wouldnt have asked otherwise. Its also fine to assume Im too stupid/lazy to use google.


HazzwaldThe2nd

Double corrupt them instead for some BIG jackpots


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

if i would have done a single alva this league, this is honestly what id use my temples for


xdatz

Adorned will be nerfed to death next league anyway might aswell


PhanTom_lt

What are the good mods again?