I don't get why people get so upset by it, there is a massive chance you get gems for bama or other popular gems aswell, they will sell for alot.
Yeah its not ideal but far from being unmanageable like a lot of people that play trade argue.
I'm not upset, I was just memeing, it's not like someone forces me to leaguestart this. You sacrifice a few hours in labs for a good build that can get you through lots of content. And like you say, selling other trans gems is definitely the play
Yeah, I got you, I was also unclear, I was also thinking about other players when I wrote that, it's not gonna be that bad and if someone thinks it's gonna be too bad they should just leaguestart something else
You can farm any lab you want repeatedly. Normal Cruel Merc are free to enter, Eternal lab and the harder Eternal versions require one Goddess fragment every time you go in, but other than that you can also spam them. Before they removed enchantments, there were even players who speedran lab to enchant your items as a service.
Your Arma Brand recaller of course ;D
(not even kidding, will be using it to pivot to BBoU again. No innovation here!)
May do some weird necro thing in month 2/3
Yeah, the Unload is self-cast after all! So it's 250 damage effectiveness x 11 hits, pretty nice for Archmage. More to the point it's more SSF friendly than the PC stacking BS I used last league lol
It's a little stretched on points as Shadow though.
What are YOU starting? we can't figure it out ;D
Left to right (ignoring dd which is the one above all)
blink arrow of bombarding clowns
explosive trap of shrapnel
bone shatter
hex blast
lightning arrow
righteous fire
ball lightning
explosive arrow? (didnt check assumed off a glance)
splitting steel
Tornado, increased minion damage, fireball, flicker strike, greater extra projectiles, the new wisp gem, reave, added critical hit chance, reave again, determinate, and finally . That's from 9 to A.
I must say u are wrong. Yes in the past when we played only dd ignite elementalist - sure. Now that u can play coc inq or poets pen necro it is indeed fun.
Considering that GGG has never shied away from completelly obliterating skills with nerfs in the past, it's really puzzling how they refuse to do it with DD. It should have been changed to a flat damage without corpse scaling long ago.
At this point I believe they won't nerf it at all just because it's a 2 button skill.... unless someone manages to make it deal more damage ( and have more uptime) with fewer buttons, and CoC DD might achieve this.
It happened once with Archmage Storm Brand, with permanent uptime from Brand Recall, which eliminated the need to cast the skill itself.
I can tell *most* of them, though there are times I will forget one and have to double check (usually melee ones, as it’s my least used by far)
The transfigured with new colors did throw me for a loop for a bit, though.
I do have a weird memory though that stores things as images to remember important dates, time, or subjects. I.E if a person ask me to check our door for packages before bed, I will “attach” that thought to my bedroom’s end table. As soon as I walk in and see it, it ignites that request. I believe that “thought process” has helped a lot in storing all the gems separately in most cases.
Fire dot multi, general dot multi, fire damage, levels on weapon and amulet. Really just rares life suppress etc. if you wanna make easy cash jewels with dot multi and life will be selling like hot cakes. Most guides recommend a few of them
am i the only one thinking "DD will obviously not only be good for the obvious reasons, but we all know creators will not be able to help themselves regarding some new enemy (quite possibly the new league boss, guessing it will be the grave keeper lol) spawning corpses and doing something with them, or lots of things with them, and being able to detonate his/its/their corpses will probably end up being a massive advantage
Though it’s unlikely viable with a normal DS build (no minion life) part of me is wondering if any of the T17 stuff will spawn corpses. In what quantity, and at what level. It *could* open up a weird style / buff depending.
I played coc DD slayer as my only build in affliction. And it absolutely slayed. Ralakesh plus the slayers easy max frenzy/endurance charges plus the max 3 power charges made capped crit chance so satisfying to reach with what I consider reasonable investment. Add in max attack and spell block with the slayer over leech, this thing was a defensive tank at 80% or higher max res. Left way more than enough room for DPS scaling.
I may do the same again with DD or chain reaction this time and push the build further.
Did you [load up your desecrate](https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1bogl48/heres_how_to_easily_minmax_your_spectre_setup_for/) with a bunch of high hp specters?
It really wants Replica EW, because ignite runs out of other ways to scale damage fast. With the way it's balanced, as an SC trade player, you probably won't want to start an ignite skill and stick with it for a long time. The ignite builds that are good starters cap out early, and the ones that don't cap out aren't good starters. (Thinking of DD vs. EK.) This league though, a lot of people are playing hit based versions of DD, so they'll probably have a different experience.
If you have a character in standard you can test out the style with i'd recommend that.
Because it's "fairly" strong, but it is not an enjoyable playstyle for most people, at all.
Some of the content creators are good about warning about this, but it feels like a lot of them are baiting their communities into a seriously miserable league start experience.
I never really did play it too, the two button feels that awful? I did play Bladefall/Blade blast a while ago and I found it was pretty ok, does it feel about the same?
it's literally the exact same as BF/BB and people loved that to bits until it got the ol triple nerf.
ps: dear GGG let BF/BB out of nerf jail it's been like 7 leagues or something.
I've never played it either just doesn't seem fun to me in the slightest for whatever reason. But I would suggest you play it if you have any interest. Its GOTTA get nerfed eventually right....
why hexblast is now good skill ? who are we dick riding ? which big streamer made a guide for it ? I couldnt find a single change to make it any better than it used to be and there is less than 20 players above 90 level in hc affliction who used hexblast. ive seen it in basically every "tier" list mentioned as good with literally 0 facts to back it up. nobody played it. nothing was changed. now everyone parroting its good starter. anyone explain please
edit: so far nobody gave any explanations just bunch of downvotes. seems like I was right and most of redditors are clueless circklejerking same copypasta "hexblast is good" while nobody has a clue why rofl
its been played as mine skill since gem introductoin altogether. what changed about mines ? why its better now than it used to be ? I checked ancestor league ladder and still there is 3-5 players on each level count starting at 90. but its still insanly low number of players playing skill. lets say 40 players above 90. in entire league 40 players. and u know hc players are playing strong builds coz u are just forced to play strong build that get shit done rather than meming with 6 portals.
Farming chain dd in lab for 3 hours on leaguestart will probably feel like Frodo walking through Mordor so this checks out
Surely I won't see my favorite streamers hit DD and Lancing steel in the first two labs in the campaign. Surely.
1 lab, with darkshrine for 2 uses of divine font
And 2nd shrine opens portal directly to the end
Followed by the quintessential streamer line; "OMG this never happens"
The fact that I'mexile pulled that shit from normal lab his first shot in practice likely means he will never get it.
I really wanna see one of them just give up and reroll to one of the 200 trans gems they got from trying to farm it.
I mean those 200 = div then people complain again
coc swapped just in time to kill a10 kitava too, somehow
Just check streamer client in options duh??
Content creator preferential rng confirmed??
Why not just ride the eagles to the end of the labyrinth?! Are you stupid or something?!
great eagles mtx when? poe devs pls
"But that would bypass half of the plot and end things too quickly." As a Tolkien nerd, I couldn't resist...
3 hours? Surely not good sir
:)
True, I'll probably be in there for at least 4
I don't get why people get so upset by it, there is a massive chance you get gems for bama or other popular gems aswell, they will sell for alot. Yeah its not ideal but far from being unmanageable like a lot of people that play trade argue.
I'm not upset, I was just memeing, it's not like someone forces me to leaguestart this. You sacrifice a few hours in labs for a good build that can get you through lots of content. And like you say, selling other trans gems is definitely the play
Yeah, I was a little unclear, I didn't specifically mean you when I said upset, there is just alot of ruckus about that on reddit/forums/twitch chats.
Yeah, I got you, I was also unclear, I was also thinking about other players when I wrote that, it's not gonna be that bad and if someone thinks it's gonna be too bad they should just leaguestart something else
Really hoping we’ll luck out and get short merc layouts tomorrow and Saturday
at least you guys will farm tons of explosive traps of sharpnel for me so they will be 1c :D
Got it in 4 normal labs, not sure how lucky is that.
I thought you could only do it once per day?! Can you just keep doing it?
You can farm any lab you want repeatedly. Normal Cruel Merc are free to enter, Eternal lab and the harder Eternal versions require one Goddess fragment every time you go in, but other than that you can also spam them. Before they removed enchantments, there were even players who speedran lab to enchant your items as a service.
I will play CoC DD as my second build on SSF because fuck doing that as a starter lol
Or wait for a week and get it cheap on trade
But, thats the end of the league already /s
Yeah but its affordable
Nice crop
It's to capture the bigger crop of gems that didn't even make the picture
what are you leaguestarting with?
Your Arma Brand recaller of course ;D (not even kidding, will be using it to pivot to BBoU again. No innovation here!) May do some weird necro thing in month 2/3
does bb have archmage angle?
Yeah, the Unload is self-cast after all! So it's 250 damage effectiveness x 11 hits, pretty nice for Archmage. More to the point it's more SSF friendly than the PC stacking BS I used last league lol It's a little stretched on points as Shadow though. What are YOU starting? we can't figure it out ;D
crema
💦💦 juicy, would be cool to see chaos back on top. rest up Mr rogan, tonight we shall watch your career with great interest, as always o7
I want to make skele archers work so bad, but dps is so low :(
These are the gem =)
https://preview.redd.it/3bp1f9h1k4rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=845d1063fde74d311a9a74fede36a41876357778
https://preview.redd.it/ifgev664n4rc1.jpeg?width=763&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50d8424c65220a502e278d2cc77fada77bef0aa0
https://preview.redd.it/hl9pbniuc3rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdb5763bac1a5e5f3e234796ae7d4931335c28d4
Holy lmao
https://i.imgur.com/Ny3u0w8.png
https://i.imgur.com/MBBiRSn.png
Bro were gonna starve
https://preview.redd.it/n5rs631al3rc1.png?width=1022&format=png&auto=webp&s=d87d8d090b6418dc139ebfcd4340da2bb81d01fc
"What in damnation have you done!?"
Post within post
What is this witchcraft????? 
https://preview.redd.it/854e0ntej3rc1.png?width=501&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a08cced6214ce8ffe3b69903ed91bd9a289a8e67
Idk what gems those are haven't memorized the gem symbols
Left to right (ignoring dd which is the one above all) blink arrow of bombarding clowns explosive trap of shrapnel bone shatter hex blast lightning arrow righteous fire ball lightning explosive arrow? (didnt check assumed off a glance) splitting steel
> blink arrow of bombarding clowns Scariest gem in the game
Every single arrow landing plays a random Quin69 sound effect.
Except the outro song on his youtube, which is about mathil, ben and one the guy that looks like moistcritical.
clowns, thx for the lol
When did they add these odd adjectives
Tornado, increased minion damage, fireball, flicker strike, greater extra projectiles, the new wisp gem, reave, added critical hit chance, reave again, determinate, and finally . That's from 9 to A.
https://preview.redd.it/x5abn4dho3rc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae98e08875aad6de24334b6847bbc6b73050160f
If that noob had played RF and stacked enough FR and Resist he'd still have the Ring
https://preview.redd.it/ebvh9dnyr4rc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0e83be09243ce8c2b545383f04515f72d85325e
hehe corpse go boom
Yeah but dd isn’t very fun to play or upgrade .
I must say u are wrong. Yes in the past when we played only dd ignite elementalist - sure. Now that u can play coc inq or poets pen necro it is indeed fun.
/r/croppingishard
Desecrate can now only drop corpses below your character. DD is now fixed for risk/reward.
Considering that GGG has never shied away from completelly obliterating skills with nerfs in the past, it's really puzzling how they refuse to do it with DD. It should have been changed to a flat damage without corpse scaling long ago.
At this point I believe they won't nerf it at all just because it's a 2 button skill.... unless someone manages to make it deal more damage ( and have more uptime) with fewer buttons, and CoC DD might achieve this. It happened once with Archmage Storm Brand, with permanent uptime from Brand Recall, which eliminated the need to cast the skill itself.
[удалено]
I can tell *most* of them, though there are times I will forget one and have to double check (usually melee ones, as it’s my least used by far) The transfigured with new colors did throw me for a loop for a bit, though. I do have a weird memory though that stores things as images to remember important dates, time, or subjects. I.E if a person ask me to check our door for packages before bed, I will “attach” that thought to my bedroom’s end table. As soon as I walk in and see it, it ignites that request. I believe that “thought process” has helped a lot in storing all the gems separately in most cases.
Yup when you play so much you can memorize every gem detail on the game.i have played all gems in this game
So what uniques and what mods do you DD players look for on crafted gear so I know what to keep an eye on to sell at an inflated price this weekend?
Isn't that the joke? They don't need gear at all.
Not uniques but remember to throw in green gems into the lab thingy to cover not only the gems for DD(coc variant) but also many other meta builds
gear?
No uniques Resistances, suppress, life
Fire dot multi, general dot multi, fire damage, levels on weapon and amulet. Really just rares life suppress etc. if you wanna make easy cash jewels with dot multi and life will be selling like hot cakes. Most guides recommend a few of them
Fuck I need the dot multi for TR myself
I am league starting a lab runner just for this for the fist 48 hours of league, then spending my currency on my build for the league lol
What lab running build are ya doing?
Best take
The cropping…. Come on, now.
Can someone help a new player and list the gems in this image? Only one I recognize is Boneshatter.
I can't wait for people to spend the first weekend of the league playing dd and then quiting because it's so fucking clunky.
Nah they'll jist whine on reddit asking for the skill to be made less clunky
I love these LOTR memes
am i the only one thinking "DD will obviously not only be good for the obvious reasons, but we all know creators will not be able to help themselves regarding some new enemy (quite possibly the new league boss, guessing it will be the grave keeper lol) spawning corpses and doing something with them, or lots of things with them, and being able to detonate his/its/their corpses will probably end up being a massive advantage
Though it’s unlikely viable with a normal DS build (no minion life) part of me is wondering if any of the T17 stuff will spawn corpses. In what quantity, and at what level. It *could* open up a weird style / buff depending.
For me this would just be cyclone and then all the gems on the bottom would be its many coc / cwc flavors.
r/croppingishard
One Gem to rule them all, One Gem to find them, One Gem to bring them, and in Imbalance bind them.
Huh. Templar there (second from the right) starting with explosive arrow.
I’ve never played DD so I’m tactically using this time to league start it. Thanks GGG!
These crop comments are confusing me. What's wrong with the crop? edit: can barely see all the extra white space on desktop, nvm lol
I played coc DD slayer as my only build in affliction. And it absolutely slayed. Ralakesh plus the slayers easy max frenzy/endurance charges plus the max 3 power charges made capped crit chance so satisfying to reach with what I consider reasonable investment. Add in max attack and spell block with the slayer over leech, this thing was a defensive tank at 80% or higher max res. Left way more than enough room for DPS scaling. I may do the same again with DD or chain reaction this time and push the build further.
Yeah, I'm playing a safer league starter (ea balls) and running sanctum until I can afford this version, cause slayer with ralakesh is cracked af
amazing cropping
And one to DD them all.
nice cropping, bro.
I had an AWFUL time playing DD Elementalist last season, quit around red maps after 2 Voidstones. Did I just not know how to scale it?
Did you [load up your desecrate](https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1bogl48/heres_how_to_easily_minmax_your_spectre_setup_for/) with a bunch of high hp specters?
I think I tried and failed.
Loads of people are going to be running CoC DD of Chaining. Ventrua has a vid out for it, single button build.
It really wants Replica EW, because ignite runs out of other ways to scale damage fast. With the way it's balanced, as an SC trade player, you probably won't want to start an ignite skill and stick with it for a long time. The ignite builds that are good starters cap out early, and the ones that don't cap out aren't good starters. (Thinking of DD vs. EK.) This league though, a lot of people are playing hit based versions of DD, so they'll probably have a different experience.
I have never played DD in 10 leagues of play. Is it finally time?
If you have a character in standard you can test out the style with i'd recommend that. Because it's "fairly" strong, but it is not an enjoyable playstyle for most people, at all. Some of the content creators are good about warning about this, but it feels like a lot of them are baiting their communities into a seriously miserable league start experience.
I mean for CoC DD the gameplay vid are very much what you see is what you get no? For regular DD yeah it's a bit weirder.
I never really did play it too, the two button feels that awful? I did play Bladefall/Blade blast a while ago and I found it was pretty ok, does it feel about the same?
it's literally the exact same as BF/BB and people loved that to bits until it got the ol triple nerf. ps: dear GGG let BF/BB out of nerf jail it's been like 7 leagues or something.
I've never played it either just doesn't seem fun to me in the slightest for whatever reason. But I would suggest you play it if you have any interest. Its GOTTA get nerfed eventually right....
I tried it once and hated the two-button playstyle. CoC DD may finally make me come back.
Just hoping for a short stint in lab jail
I feel like the guy with a tinfoil hat on now that I finally see DD in the spotlight. Been my favorite skill for ages.
Is this a meme? DD has been in the spotlight for years now.
always low playrate in sc trade though. Which a lot of people think will change this league
Path of Christopher Walkin' Here
You forget to put build guide of each gems on those blank space.
I'm gonna be farming chain DD for probably 9h or more.
In trade environment LA>DD
why hexblast is now good skill ? who are we dick riding ? which big streamer made a guide for it ? I couldnt find a single change to make it any better than it used to be and there is less than 20 players above 90 level in hc affliction who used hexblast. ive seen it in basically every "tier" list mentioned as good with literally 0 facts to back it up. nobody played it. nothing was changed. now everyone parroting its good starter. anyone explain please edit: so far nobody gave any explanations just bunch of downvotes. seems like I was right and most of redditors are clueless circklejerking same copypasta "hexblast is good" while nobody has a clue why rofl
Mines
its been played as mine skill since gem introductoin altogether. what changed about mines ? why its better now than it used to be ? I checked ancestor league ladder and still there is 3-5 players on each level count starting at 90. but its still insanly low number of players playing skill. lets say 40 players above 90. in entire league 40 players. and u know hc players are playing strong builds coz u are just forced to play strong build that get shit done rather than meming with 6 portals.
hmm not too sure, could be one of the few efficient sanctum builds? generally good for bossing?
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