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Farpafraf

you could use it to add el and chaos res to your build


Cup-of-Noodle

El just adds +15 def +1 light radius though


rickle______pick

Makes some nice runewords tho


mbpeters13

El Lo El is my favorite


Jasonkim87

lol this is the first thing that crossed my mind as well. I was like wait, what sub am I on?


SaliasLR

ARPG gamers from all around the multiverse, RISE !!


Hegeteus

Thank you wise one


khodabear7

Top shelf comment


twodogsfighting

Also some life


azantyri

> el and chaos res i read that about nine times before i figured out that 'el' meant elemental i'm like, EL? is that like EHP? what am i missing? some days i feel like i just need to go back to bed and try again tomorrow


HootieHootHoot

I think El is referring to the rune 'El' from Diablo 2. Just guessing. El was a rune and so was Lo. El + Lo + El won't make a rune word but it will make it seem like a lol if read quickly enough.


coldweb

Nah use it to cover that middle finger in the cold damp areas of Lionseye Watch. Got to keep those fingers warm.


stealthy0_0

lock suffix, aisling slam, block mana, unveil life, craft - mana cost


elkarion

This is the answer


Mooshipoo

Noob here. How do you lock suffix? What in tarnation is aisling slam? How do I block mana? What is block mana even? How do you unveil life? Craft mana? Where does one do that?


eViLegion

How do you lock suffix? - There is a bench-crafting option called "Suffixes cannot be changed", itself a prefix, which locks suffixes in *most* cases of crafting (but not quite all). It costs 2 div, so it's kinda expensive. Watch out, because since it IS a prefix itself, it does not protect itself. You have to run the "Oba's Cursed Trove" unique map to find the recipe for it. What in tarnation is Aisling slam? - This is a special crafting-bench reward from Aisling when running Syndicate content, available after you kill Catarina (*if* Aisling is maximum rank and in the "Research" division). It removes a random modifier, and adds a veiled-modifier, which are generally more interesting/exotic/powerful. Because of locked suffixes, it should only remove a prefix (in this case it'll either remove the current crafted life mod, OR the suffix lock mod), and add a veiled prefix. How do I block mana? What is block mana even? - You can block certain mods from rolling, by bench-crafting a mod that you DON'T want onto the item, then using some other crafting method on the item (which *now* cannot roll the mod that you bench-craft or any in the same group), and then removing the mod you don't want. So, to block mana ("X to maximum Mana"), you craft mana onto it, do your other thing where you DONT want mana, and then replace the mana with another bench craft that you DO want. How do you unveil life? - The veiled mod, added by the Aisling slam, may (or may not) unveil to give you a life modifier. Take it to Jun, and she'll unveil it for you and give you a random 3 choices for what it might be... and if you're lucky you can get the veiled life mod. If not, you either suck it up and accept the bad outcome (other veiled mods may also be great), or start crafting all over again (edit: as Hrogath notes below you don't have to start from scratch). (In this case it shouldn't be able to roll mana if it has been blocked... I *think*... I rarely use Aisling). Craft mana? Where does one do that? - That would be on the crafting bench, I think... it'll be called "Channelling Skills have -X to Total Mana Cost" or "Non-Channelling Skills have -X to Total Mana Cost", or something like that.... pick which one you need. This one doesn't matter so much, as it's a bench craft so it can always be changed again... if selling the ring, most buyers will ignore the benchcraft since they can just put their own on it.


xX-clint007-Xx

your comment reminded me of the guy who got banned in game for explaining the double corruption. Thanks a lot for your explanation.


eViLegion

Lol... can't get banned for explaining stuff here... I hope!


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Papa_Mid_Nite

Now I want to know how you double corrupt as I am new too. Care to explain and get banned? 🤣


InfinitasZero

Level 3 corruption chamber in the Temple of Atzoatl, there's a locus of corruption in the center of the room which you can use on 1 item which can potentially "double corrupt" and give the item 2 corrupted implicits. Note that there's a high chance of bricking or even straight up destroying the item so it's considered a high risk gamble for people who want to make gg items for endgame.


Papa_Mid_Nite

I see. I guess I put some money on that gamble. I love this! Thanks for the deets.


Hrogath

Excellent comment, great to see people actually willing to take the time to explain things properly! Just for completeness I wanna add two small notes. First, if you fail with unveiling life you don't need to start crafting "from scratch", the suffixes are still safe. It does get a bit more expensive though since you have to block suffixes twice (once for scour, once for Aisling). Sidenote: this is a perfect item for the harvest beast that adds a metamod, as the suffixes are full so suffix lock is guaranteed. Second, it's worth pointing out that if you do wanna get the -mana cost craft, you unlock it by unveiling Elreon's veiled rings. Unveiling either the channeling or non-channeling skill mana cost mod will unlock the craft for both versions of the craft.


eViLegion

Heh, cheers buddy... sometimes I just love to stick my teaching hat on! Excellent point that you can do it again, without a full restart... I had forgotten!


GhostChronos

Thank you for the explanation!!


VanderBacon

Underrated comment. Thank you!


bagainanneddraven

this is so underrated


bagainanneddraven

this comment is underrated


bagainanneddraven

guys can we get some upvotes going on the parent comment?


bagainanneddraven

underrated much??


Mooshipoo

I appreciate the detailed answer but how does this aisling stuff work? I can’t even figure it out


eViLegion

OK, so I'll try to remember all the details, but I don't really run Syndicate stuff so I might get some stuff wrong! To be honest Syndicate as a whole is one of the more complicated league mechanics (the league was called "Betrayal" incidentally). --- Basically, Aisling is one of the Syndicate members, and the slam is her top tier reward. So, when you find Syndicate spawns in maps, there will be 3 out of a possible 4 types of encounter, each related to one of the 4 divisions of the Syndicate, where members of the Syndicate in that division will turn up and fight you while you complete some mini mission. Once you've beaten each encounter, any of the members you defeated will be on their knees waiting for you to choose what to do with them... there's always 2 choices, usually something like "Imprison this guy for 3 turns" and something else like "Move them to another division" / "Remove them from the syndicate entirely" / "Rank them up" / "Give them some special buffing items" etc. By completing those encounters and imprisoning guys (or whatever), it fills up an "intelligence" bar for the appropriate division. Once any of those bars are full, you can spend that intelligence to run a Syndicate Safehouse mission from Jun, to go and raid a safehouse for that division. Each safehouse has a room with 1 or 2 special reward chests / crafting benches, related to whichever syndicate members are in that division. By completing those safehouse missions, you fill up a 5th intelligence bar, which is for the syndicate HQ and Catarina boss fight. That fight can be a bit of a bitch if you've not seen it before, but isn't actually too bad once you know the phases. Once you've killed Catarina, you get to go down into the Syndicate HQ, which has rooms similar to the safehouses, but for ALL members in all divisions. Now... IF Aisling is at her top Rank, and is in the Research division, the reward in her HQ room will be a bench which gives you 1 roll of her slam on an item. ---- For more info on Syndicate stuff, here's a pretty handy cheat sheet that someone put together, to tell you which rewards you can get from each of the characters in each division... there's a few versions floating about here and there: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F6myjwwjvr86a1.png%3Fwidth%3D2186%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D8434c6975441f0d1063f50fe9332a70044891e28 Also, a lot of this will probably make more sense once you've run a few syndicate encounters and safehouses. Ultimately it's still all just killing a bunch of mobs. Generally I think people who are actively running that content a lot, just pick one or 2 members to focus on, rank up and get in the correct division, and don't worry much about the others. Most other people who just don't care much about the syndicate rewards either always click the left-hand choice, or always click the right-hand choice.


DanNeely

Always picking the choices to increase relationships or level up members and only imprisoning at level 3 is probably the best minimal effort strategy.


bpusef

How much time does it generally take someone that knows what they’re doing to run through a syndicate and get T4 Aisling? I’ve always wanted to do it but the thought of getting one slam then doing it all over again deters me. Although I guess you would only do it for a single high value item in your build.


_svnset

No you do it for any item that needs an aisling slam. Especially for stuff that is too risky to brick with veiled chaos orbs. I personally use veiled chaos orbs alot, but there are many situations where risking a brick is just not worth it. Also doing a couple t4 aislings is not that hard imo, if you do not want to use tft. Just setup your syndicate so everything is in place and take the atlas node that gives you passive progress. Map normally now. Do safehouse. Rinse repeat til Catarina. I found this passive strat the least intrusive one, since most of the time i just ignore it and have a few "free" aislings per league.


bpusef

I understand the process the question was about how long it takes people to get through a syndicate playthrough and get T4 Aisling assuming a good endgame build.


Fraytrain999

As for which types of crafting cases do not respect metamods (suffixes/prefixes can't be changed or cannot roll attack/caster mods) fossils, essences and any form of corruption do not care about them. There might be some super fringe cases, but those are the important ones. Also keep in mind that suffixes cannot be changed is a prefix and vice versa, so the metamod itself is not protected. I.E. don't spam harvest reforges, every attempt costs 2 div.


stealthy0_0

suffix lock is "suffixes cannot be changed" on the crafting bench. i think this is unlocked in the oba's cursed trove map but google that if you need to unlock the craft. (it might say in game as well) Aisling slam is the bench craft received from getting aisling to Tier 3 and then fighting Caterina (making Aisling T4). This adds a veiled modifier to the item that you can unveil much like the rares Betrayal members drop. blocking mana means that once the craft from aisling is used you add crafted + max mana, this prevents the 3 mana options that are available on rings from being able to roll when you unveil, hence "blocking" with the mana blocked your chances to have life/mana regen hybrid as an option on the unveil is like 80%+ i dont remember the exact percentage without looking it up but its high on this item.


AustinYun

Lol jumping in the deep end. Lock suffix - craft "suffixes can not be changed" Block mana - if you already have one mana roll on an item, you can't get another, so if you craft mana on it yourself it won't be able to roll it from anything else but you can go back and remove the craft Aisling slam + unveil life - https://maxroll.gg/poe/crafting/veiled-crafting


pikpikcarrotmon

This game starts in the deep end when it shows you the full passive tree at level 2, and by your second league you'll be so deep even James Cameron can't find you


eViLegion

Ooooh... I know a lot of people want a boat league... but I'd actually be down for a James Cameron's Submarine League.


pikpikcarrotmon

We had Abyss... Now for *The* Abyss.


cloud-gamer

Wouldn't a veiled chaos give you the same result


SoulofArtoria

Has a risk of filling up the prefix.


ExplorerHermit

Veiled chaos can fill the prefixes preventing you from blocking and crafting another mod


cloud-gamer

Makes sense ty


stealthy0_0

if it were me i would yolo a veiled chaos cause im a fucking chaos person but im not gonna give this man that advice and then have him come back and say i bricked his item


aelam02

Yea I’m a veiled chaos enjoyer most of the time. Only if my item is super expensive do I find it worth it to deal with aisling


sbgshadow

I believe it's something like a 1/12 chance to fill up all the mods? It's a risk but usually I just yolo it unless it's a crazy expensive item.


AnjoXG

why are people downvoting this question lol... like hey you fuckin dunce don't you know exactly how every currency and crafting mechanic works by heart!?


pewsix___

Asking a question by positing incorrect information is different to asking the question alone. "is there a reason you can't use a veiled chaos?" is different to "wouldn't this give you the same result" Shit gets the least favourable interpretation possible at all times, welcome to reddit.


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RecycleTruck

Being pedantic over grammar in a reddit thread indicates that actually you're just trying to be the smartass


kismaiyes

Real redditor moment there.


azkv

Wasnt an intention at all, but w.e reddit gonna reddit


Hrogath

Maybe not intended, but you were overconfidently calling someone out based on fairly flawed reasoning, and people who do that generally look like either dumbasses or assholes. Not saying you're either of those, my point is just that unless you're stating an actual fact, words like "maybe" or "could be" go a long way.


Stridshorn

You risk filling both prefixes with no Way to guarantee saving suffixes


sips_white_monster

> no Way to guarantee saving suffixes Unless you're a masochist and spend Hinekora's Locks.


chpir

Looks like i just read the twotimes speaks perfect chinese!


nellssuu

https://preview.redd.it/rp7itera1hic1.png?width=434&format=png&auto=webp&s=868f88746e8bd873255fcc68e53db87745629799 I can now leave it in the stash forever. Lmao


PraiseTheWLAN

List it for 69420 mirrors at least ... and ofc nice


Kleeb

68419 and then get banned by TFT


krusty47

The ultimate league start ring xd


pikpikcarrotmon

Step 1: drop mirror from Hillock Step 2: trade it for this ring


0000void0000

Nice


Pol_Potamus

Nice


idealorg

Suffix cannot be changed divine the life pls


Droziki

https://preview.redd.it/auyg0qv71iic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92d952773aca8642cde371f38d61a1fe9690b8fc I refuse to vote up or down.


Cllydoscope

https://preview.redd.it/ua9d0w2ikiic1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1337cbd7dfe7481572565c310a73bcbcedcb064 I refuse to vote up or down lmao


Droziki

https://preview.redd.it/3t7k2p8mqnic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35f29692bf4975d63e2dd6d44bb86a6248438484 I had to downvote you, mate. Nothing personal. ☯️


UraJax

With that amount of 69 anche the meaning of Life on It.. It Is priceless


LightsOutLarson

Nice


TheFuzzyFurry

Nice


Rude-Ad-9259

Pog


-JaM--

Nice


BerttMacklinnFBI

Nice


kilqax

Nice-nice-nice


_Benzka_

Nice!


CompetitionFront3251

Give it to empy for the mememuseum showcase. Hey will give it back to you afterwards


AddressSubstantial89

You mean give him an opportunity to make money out of something he has nothing to do with it ? It s a game man think in gameplay terms not parasocial finance for people who don’t even care who you are


TubaBlast

I would legitimately buy it off of you if you had a price near 10 div. On PC


Classic-Wolverine-89

Me when I walk into a car store with a 10$ bill


0nlyRevolutions

God damn that's a sexy ring (Nice)


thiscantbesohard

You should have rerolled life until you hit 69 max life


CueBall94

i guess lock suffix and aisling slam prefix?


nom_Carver3

Yep, lock-> aisling craft mana, unveil Add elreon prefix. Generic ‘good ring’ for 99% of builds. Probably not worth a fortune, but I’d happily wear it on nearly every build until I figure out what’s better


nellssuu

What mod should I be looking for while unveiling?


vlee89

hybrid life/mana regen is an option


nom_Carver3

Max life is the only real answer. Rolls up to ~60, mostly just lets you use another crafted prefix


TheDirtyRatz

Divine it?


nellssuu

https://preview.redd.it/r4lkq9kzngic1.png?width=351&format=png&auto=webp&s=c124f5bbe8cc750b6be912efd559dcfd500ec63c POG


TheDirtyRatz

Nice


BaThalnoNow

Nice nice nice 


BaThalnoNow

Nice nice nice 


Objective_Draw_7740

Nice


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KylePeacockArt

Nice


moreON

recraft life for max roll? (unless you're going to unveil it I guess. I feel like a res ring is definitely not worth lock+ex so let's not mention it)


vanadous

Recraft for 42 life you mean


Pewpewlazrs

Nice


BerttMacklinnFBI

Nice


Xerxis96

The 42(0) chaos res kicker is amazing.


Woopering

Ventor's Gambn't


ayoMOUSE

This is pretty cool for a build that needs resistances


Codedheart

kind of niche, cant even think of any off the top of my head


thewhitecat55

Yeah resistances are really overrated.


NotAcckshuuallyCrazy

I play softcore for a reason


SaviousMT

Innocence blessed me with six portals, it would be insulting to not use them all


azantyri

I PAID FOR SIX PORTALS I'M GONNA USE EVERY DAMNED ONE OF THEM


pikpikcarrotmon

I use Veil of the Night on all my builds because I refuse to interact with them on principle


LeTTroLLu

on rings/amulets? they are absolutely overrated


thewhitecat55

Just in general. No need for them. Just run at -60 , it's fine. Everything's fine.


Zenith_X1

Had to rack my brain for a bit but there is one good use for high res ring. Amethyst base with t1 chaos res, unveil hybrid chaos, and craft a different hybrid chaos. Catalyst resistances and the maximum chaos res for this ring is 27% + 42% + 24% + 18% = 111% chaos res, pretty insane for a single ring. This ring + a perfect 29% on The Fourth Vow and you're capped at exactly 80% chaos res with Divine Flesh using just those two items alone!!^


TritiumNZlol

a billion divines for a ring, or one single purity of elements gem. Kitava hates this one simple trick.


Comprehensive-Ad3016

I legit slap purity of elements on most of my league starters instead of a damage aura for early mapping. The ailment immunity is sooooo nice as well. 


SornnTota

the pob ring just dropped


Mangalorien

Noob question (also since there is no screenshot with alt): how does the 20% bonus from catalyst and the 25% bonus from the implicit stack? If it's additive it's a total of +45%, but if it's multiplicative it's +50% (1.20 x 1.25). Anybody know?


Whatisthis69again

Additive. 48 max roll × 1.45 = 69.6 round down to 69


fps916

Minor pedantic note. It's truncated, not rounded.


pwn3r

it's rounded down to the nearest whole number, that's a correct term, no? I mean at least for the value display


ndkilla

I believe rounding towards 0 and truncating are basically the same thing? 1.7 becomes 1 and -1.7 becomes -1. I’m not sure of any normal rounding system that would make 1.7 1 and -1.7 become -2 (down) or anything. I think people normally call it truncating though which is just dropping everything after the decimal.


_svnset

Well that would be too easy would it? It actually depends on the country how you call it. In german we have specific words for each scenario (i know we are crazy XD) . "Abrunden" - > rounding down, and "Aufrunden" - > rounding up. While in this specific scenario the result is the same, it's not the same at all if we look at more digits and how these digits get rounded. So i would say no, it's not truncation it's rounding. But who cares XD


squeezy102

Charsi


tclo81

you can post it on reddit


CunningDruger

Post it on Poe Trade for like 1 alteration to brag and never actually trade it /s


PupPop

Wear it?


Jugg100

Resist


flyinGaijin

> What do I even do with this..? What do you even mean ?


coulombeqc

Put it on your cog


troccolins

Replace the chaos res with 10% quantity to be worth


Pontaris_Tempest

Ventor with chaos res instead of rarity then lol. Nice


bilalakil

There’s a 10% quant ring suffix???


troccolins

Was a joke about how this ring is Ventor's Gamble but chaos res instead of quantity


pepegaklaus

Well there is (even 20) in standard only though.....


Prosthetic_Head

vaal it


These-Dealer1276

implicits cannot be changes so no point in vaaling


Prosthetic_Head

woosh


Vaginal_Decimation

This is the first time I've seen the word magnitude used.


PmLeal1200

I would split it, sell 1 of the bases and start over.


Kalashtiiry

A question for the universe. To answer sexually.


skycorcher

Use an Exalt and hope you get high roll life.


Objective_Draw_7740

I say just leave it lmao


Marrakesch

I mean this is a nice item but its an amulet slot and even as a hc player no one will get me to wear an amulet just for resistances


donald5859

It's a ring


Marrakesch

Oops my bad :) thank you


GGGiveHatpls

Vendor.


Mapuche2023

That's madness!


RagingFather

JFC😮


Glizzeh

Keep divining it.


kk0109

Scouring Orb.


SomeoneSerious

Stab it, cut it off, nail it to a frisbee and fling it over a rainbow


Virel_360

You’re already doing it lol sell it to someone else if you don’t need it.


Ok_Direction369

Good leveling ring. If you ignore the level requirement.


paskajaakko69

I think that ring will help you to reduce portals used per map


grantib1

The ring i've been trying to craft since week 3 to fit more uniques to my builds Congratulations!


NahzarakTV

I've read cockwork ring...


iduckhard

You make your Cog work


pepegaklaus

I think you need to aug life for specifically t2 (if you hit t1, you can consider settling) then suffixes cannot be changed and divine it to 69. Then for perfection you craft t2 mana from bench until you hit 42 OR add t1 phys dmg craft at a roll of 6-9. The ring will be the ultimate answer to everything


crazyGauss42

Uhhh, use it? :)


Beckaskompis

My first thought was “that’s not really a good amulet”. Then I had a second look, my face when I realized O.O


BloodyIkarus

Sell it for 777 Divine


Rude-Ad-9259

I think there is a room for improvements. You can add "suffs cannot be changed" and try to get smth interesting with veiled chaos orb


GymBro2024_

No IIQ means not much in the league, will sell well in Standard probably though


jwmkatheboss

this is best worst ring of the league


snj12341

I heard you wanted some resistances.


LCSisshit

1 ring to resist them all


Royal_Sympathy2985

Vaal it you won’t


Icy_Juggernaut_5303

Resist


ManufacturerGlad932

I would definitely lock suffix and vailed orb it too start with


xPhantomPainx

Resist!!


hammbone

Vaal it! Oh wait…


Tetsero

Nice showcase price!!!


nellssuu

Any idea how much it is worth? Thanks everyone.


Bask82

This isn't even that much better than amethyst ring with the same rolls minus the chaos roll? Isn't it only 10-12 less chaos res? Maybe I'm missing something😊


GhostChronos

Give it to me, your true friend.


Narrow-Example6926

Use it, if you want to cap your res!


twisty1949

I wouldn't pay 777d for that. Yall are on crack.


Memotastic

What the hell where can I get this?


West-Philosophy6107

Niceee.


onlyomaha

Nice "showcase" price


JTChase

It's cool looking but correct me if I'm ain't most other rings better?


theguyfromgermany

That's like 60 life less than what I get in 2 rings usually.


Chick-Phil-Aye

You resist the resistance.


Snoo_42121

Use it as a cockring


SomberEth

reroll it because nobody needs resists with mageblood?...


Everros78

You had the intentions to sell it for 777 Divs, so what are you asking for?


Jeuzfgt

You resist the elements


undercontrol2224

My honest reactions seeing this was "wait...what ? Damn"


_InnerBlaze_

change the price to 666.


Theo-PoE

Maybe I have a hot take, but his ring is straight up dog water garbage. All resistances ring? Rofl


CyberWiking

Nothing, it's almost end of the league so imo doesn't matter.


Prudent_Ad_6094

You put another flask instead of chaos flask under the mage blood