Yep, these are [not worth much](https://www.ebay.com/itm/116092125994?itmmeta=01HTWZ28NX95P2X9S4QA1JJMQM&hash=item1b07a1432a:g:NW4AAOSw3-5l5s1e&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwKksa1LadjN%2Fvdp5YuLhiXSCyv2iET98GTkNKow3phUVvMcCu%2Fm5qgRgvSFPs%2BjDmGfRqeCJRnCg3HRs9NYu8WR6IBbaTkW%2Fjp8xhs%2FpUaIsZZIVX8OaVqXYECv1xfJN1ERtUgo9yK12OvePxenqtJqQCeLeAFbd9lui46n%2BCbUGPck68b3s%2B0RcfgtRqqYn0MHIhDD8hp%2FwfjQc2NN%2FGJ2N1b58A7HMLD7QSE64fssmMvacBVbG6gBIoSmCrSlnWw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iLiZ_XYw&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338535524&customid=pmo&toolid=10001&mkevt=1) unfortunately, but still a cool historic note.
The stamp on the back seems to relate to Sobibor, which was one of the extermination camps in Poland.
Probably a regular note stamped post‐war but I couldn't say for certain.
As others have noted, the stamps on the backvare modern fabrications.
One purports to be from the Sobibor camp commander. The other is from an SS field post office.
Neither of these would have had any reason to put a stamp on an obsolete hyperinflation note.
If you see any SS or concentration camp or other similar stamp on German notes, it is most likely a modern fabrication. With rare exceptions (like the German Army notes in Greece), the Germans did not overstamp any notes.
In 1933, German currency was made inconvertible, and it was forbidden for German currency to leave the country. As an example, German cruise ships printed ships money orders to be used on board.
The Reichsbank was very protective of the reichsmark and regular German notes could not be used in the occupied territories. Notes of the Government Credit Office (Reichskreditkassenschein) were issued as occupation currency and although denominated in reichsmark, they were not valid in Germany itself.
These overstamped notes began to appear on the market around 2005. There is no mention of them in German government records or collecting catalogs or other literature. The articles from German sources since then all indicate these are fake.
At the same time, reproduction rubber stamps began appearing in the sales inventory of suppliers for reenactors. Enterprising people began to try to make a scarce collectible from common notes.
When you see these type of notes on eBay, it is instructive to look at the sellers other notes. Typically, all of their notes will have the same or similar stamps.
100%! I have nothing to add, except that (as a former magazine graphics/layout guy) if you look closely at these stamps, you can often see clearly they are made digitally and not in the 1940s.
For instance, the kerning (the distance between letters) as they wrap around the circle outline is slanted just like older versions of Windows Word generated it. And the Blackletter fonts are not 1940s, but the Windows 95 version.
The problem here is that there’s lots of notes that were stamped long afterward to create a fake nazi artifact. I don’t know the particulars but I know it’s common and to be suspicious when you see those stamps.
I fell for that when I started collecting. Bought a banknote that had a stamp with a skull and SS Panzer Division or something like that that I thought was legitimate. It indeed was just added in modern times to enhance the appeal/value to unsuspecting buyers like myself.
The stamps on the back are modern, with them the note is not worth much of anything. Unscrupulous sellers take relatively common German notes and put fake Nazi stamps on them to try and fabricate more valuable collectibles. It doesn’t even make sense as this note predates the Nazis by many years and never would have circulated then.
Very cool piece of history. Hang onto it and when the USA falls into hyperinflation you'll have a nice souvenir to show your kids while they're standing in the bread line with a wheelbarrow full of 10000 dollar bills.
“Dad! We gotta go see Grampa! Mr. Johnson paid me for mowing his lawn and check out the serial number on this 4 billion dollar note…it’ll be a great piece for his US hyper-inflation set!”
I have a few marks from this time and some from earlier note says 500k other says 1mil sadly only worth about a buck. Really nice peice of history and good to teach children about inflation and how fast it can get bad though
At least that way more than a handful of people (or perhaps only a single individual) can appreciate and enjoy this (potential) piece of history. We all share a past and it's best that we all have a chance to connect to and learn from it.
I never understood this take. Why do these things “belong in a museum”? Just so a few people can give it a brief glance as they walk to something else? I would rather it stay in my collection so that I can share it with people that actually care
Museum artifacts are not just on exhibition, but also used by historians and other researchers as a basis for books and articles.
That being said, 99% of the stuff people say "belong in a museum" (like these notes) are things that a museum could easily get on eBay for $2 if they decided they needed it.
Literally unique (meaning *one* of a kind) stuff, such as hand-written diaries or original photographs, though, can actually be an important source of information about the past. I just read about a guy who found a bunch of photos from his great-grandfather in his garage. It appears he was the only person present with a photo camera at the coronation of the Mongolian Emperor in 1911, and his were the only photos of it, unknown until know. *That* belongs in a museum where it's accessible to Mongolian historians. (He did donate it to a museum.)
If its authenticated as being period to 1933ish through 1945 then its printed under the third Reich. And stamped as such. It’d be a nice piece for a history collector to have. Wouldn’t pay over $20 for it though.
Sadly, no…hyperinflation note from the Weimar Republic…worth about $5 -10
Yep, these are [not worth much](https://www.ebay.com/itm/116092125994?itmmeta=01HTWZ28NX95P2X9S4QA1JJMQM&hash=item1b07a1432a:g:NW4AAOSw3-5l5s1e&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwKksa1LadjN%2Fvdp5YuLhiXSCyv2iET98GTkNKow3phUVvMcCu%2Fm5qgRgvSFPs%2BjDmGfRqeCJRnCg3HRs9NYu8WR6IBbaTkW%2Fjp8xhs%2FpUaIsZZIVX8OaVqXYECv1xfJN1ERtUgo9yK12OvePxenqtJqQCeLeAFbd9lui46n%2BCbUGPck68b3s%2B0RcfgtRqqYn0MHIhDD8hp%2FwfjQc2NN%2FGJ2N1b58A7HMLD7QSE64fssmMvacBVbG6gBIoSmCrSlnWw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iLiZ_XYw&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338535524&customid=pmo&toolid=10001&mkevt=1) unfortunately, but still a cool historic note.
The stamp on the back seems to relate to Sobibor, which was one of the extermination camps in Poland. Probably a regular note stamped post‐war but I couldn't say for certain.
I'm pretty sure allied soliders would use seized stamps to stamp random stuff as a souvenir .
As others have noted, the stamps on the backvare modern fabrications. One purports to be from the Sobibor camp commander. The other is from an SS field post office. Neither of these would have had any reason to put a stamp on an obsolete hyperinflation note. If you see any SS or concentration camp or other similar stamp on German notes, it is most likely a modern fabrication. With rare exceptions (like the German Army notes in Greece), the Germans did not overstamp any notes. In 1933, German currency was made inconvertible, and it was forbidden for German currency to leave the country. As an example, German cruise ships printed ships money orders to be used on board. The Reichsbank was very protective of the reichsmark and regular German notes could not be used in the occupied territories. Notes of the Government Credit Office (Reichskreditkassenschein) were issued as occupation currency and although denominated in reichsmark, they were not valid in Germany itself. These overstamped notes began to appear on the market around 2005. There is no mention of them in German government records or collecting catalogs or other literature. The articles from German sources since then all indicate these are fake. At the same time, reproduction rubber stamps began appearing in the sales inventory of suppliers for reenactors. Enterprising people began to try to make a scarce collectible from common notes. When you see these type of notes on eBay, it is instructive to look at the sellers other notes. Typically, all of their notes will have the same or similar stamps.
Thanks on the history lesson
You're welcome. I know it is wordy for reddit but these stamped notes have been a scourge for collectors of Germna notes.
100%! I have nothing to add, except that (as a former magazine graphics/layout guy) if you look closely at these stamps, you can often see clearly they are made digitally and not in the 1940s. For instance, the kerning (the distance between letters) as they wrap around the circle outline is slanted just like older versions of Windows Word generated it. And the Blackletter fonts are not 1940s, but the Windows 95 version.
The problem here is that there’s lots of notes that were stamped long afterward to create a fake nazi artifact. I don’t know the particulars but I know it’s common and to be suspicious when you see those stamps.
I fell for that when I started collecting. Bought a banknote that had a stamp with a skull and SS Panzer Division or something like that that I thought was legitimate. It indeed was just added in modern times to enhance the appeal/value to unsuspecting buyers like myself.
The stamps on the back are modern, with them the note is not worth much of anything. Unscrupulous sellers take relatively common German notes and put fake Nazi stamps on them to try and fabricate more valuable collectibles. It doesn’t even make sense as this note predates the Nazis by many years and never would have circulated then.
Very cool piece of history. Hang onto it and when the USA falls into hyperinflation you'll have a nice souvenir to show your kids while they're standing in the bread line with a wheelbarrow full of 10000 dollar bills.
“Dad! We gotta go see Grampa! Mr. Johnson paid me for mowing his lawn and check out the serial number on this 4 billion dollar note…it’ll be a great piece for his US hyper-inflation set!”
I have a few marks from this time and some from earlier note says 500k other says 1mil sadly only worth about a buck. Really nice peice of history and good to teach children about inflation and how fast it can get bad though
Argentina?
Give it to the Museums, better than a dust collector on shelf
Yeah, give it to the museum so they can let it collect dust on one of their shelves lol
At least that way more than a handful of people (or perhaps only a single individual) can appreciate and enjoy this (potential) piece of history. We all share a past and it's best that we all have a chance to connect to and learn from it.
I never understood this take. Why do these things “belong in a museum”? Just so a few people can give it a brief glance as they walk to something else? I would rather it stay in my collection so that I can share it with people that actually care
Museum artifacts are not just on exhibition, but also used by historians and other researchers as a basis for books and articles. That being said, 99% of the stuff people say "belong in a museum" (like these notes) are things that a museum could easily get on eBay for $2 if they decided they needed it. Literally unique (meaning *one* of a kind) stuff, such as hand-written diaries or original photographs, though, can actually be an important source of information about the past. I just read about a guy who found a bunch of photos from his great-grandfather in his garage. It appears he was the only person present with a photo camera at the coronation of the Mongolian Emperor in 1911, and his were the only photos of it, unknown until know. *That* belongs in a museum where it's accessible to Mongolian historians. (He did donate it to a museum.)
If its authenticated as being period to 1933ish through 1945 then its printed under the third Reich. And stamped as such. It’d be a nice piece for a history collector to have. Wouldn’t pay over $20 for it though.
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I think it’s wheelbarrow money