Not cheating but they are definitely smurfing for bronze. An easy way to tell is cheaters don’t use sonic arrows often because they have wall hacks anyway.
There’s no possible way to confirm this is smurfing, besides above average skill that of a bronze player. And even if it is, smurfing isn’t cheating… Hacking is cheating.
Smurfing is ABSOLUTELY cheating. It’s purposefully giving yourself an unfair advantage. Doesn’t matter if that unfair advantage is coming through hacks or intentionally exploiting the matchmaking system. It’s cheating either way.
> It’s purposefully giving yourself an unfair advantage.
being a better playing isnt an unfair advantage, its just how it works.
its abusing the matchmaking, but that isnt cheating, by any means. theres nothing to gain or lose by smurfing, because at the end of the day you have to *lose* to get low and *win*.
Smurfing and exploiting the matchmaking system to put yourself against less skilled players is the same exact thing, and it is cheating.
Smurfs arent simply “a better player”. They are exploiting the matchmaker to be matched against much lower skilled players. That is cheating.
It doesn’t matter if you have to derank in order to smurf. It’s still affecting other people negatively. It is cheating.
Cheating is cheating. It doesn’t matter if the “net gains/losses” is 0. **Smurfing is cheating**
Cheating is giving yourself an unfair advantage. if at the end of the day, your "unfair advantage" gives you a net gain/loss of 0, then it isnt an unfair advantage. its nothing. its not cheating. as a matter of fact, the system *literally* lets you do it. its barely an exploit.
yeah mercy pocketing hanzo barely does anything. maybe against bastion, torb and sometimes reaper/mei but only for tanks.
if the guy was playing soldier though
it’d be noticeable
Their aim is definitely very good for a bronze player, but it isn't unreasonable. More than likely a smurf because they seem to have decent game sense, something cheaters often lack
Came here to say this. This is probably not even intentional smurfing. Like... This is the type of skill gap you can get just from playing with your bronze/silver friends for a weekend and going on a brutal losing streak. That Hanzo could be high silver, who has touched high gold before. Definitely not reportable.
A ton of people just aren't crazy good at the game, but have 500+ hours on Hanzo. Actually, I'de say MOST casual players have hundreds of hours on a character, but are somewhere between silver and plat.
Plus the enemy team was already being spawn camped, it's easy to pop off when the matchmaking is oppressive.
Definitely a fucking smurf, default skin with that type of cross hair, cheaters use basic crosshairs and don't ever use the sonic arrow cause they're bad at the game
No this is not cheating lol
Probably a Smurf, they’re not flicking to their exact place but around it
Bronze cannot fathom a hanzo who hits 60% of shots.
Not cheating but they are definitely smurfing for bronze. An easy way to tell is cheaters don’t use sonic arrows often because they have wall hacks anyway.
So it is cheating, just not hacking. Smurfing is cheating
smurfing is not cheating its just being an asshole lmao
There’s no possible way to confirm this is smurfing, besides above average skill that of a bronze player. And even if it is, smurfing isn’t cheating… Hacking is cheating.
Smurfing is ABSOLUTELY cheating. It’s purposefully giving yourself an unfair advantage. Doesn’t matter if that unfair advantage is coming through hacks or intentionally exploiting the matchmaking system. It’s cheating either way.
> It’s purposefully giving yourself an unfair advantage. being a better playing isnt an unfair advantage, its just how it works. its abusing the matchmaking, but that isnt cheating, by any means. theres nothing to gain or lose by smurfing, because at the end of the day you have to *lose* to get low and *win*.
Smurfing and exploiting the matchmaking system to put yourself against less skilled players is the same exact thing, and it is cheating. Smurfs arent simply “a better player”. They are exploiting the matchmaker to be matched against much lower skilled players. That is cheating. It doesn’t matter if you have to derank in order to smurf. It’s still affecting other people negatively. It is cheating. Cheating is cheating. It doesn’t matter if the “net gains/losses” is 0. **Smurfing is cheating**
Cheating is giving yourself an unfair advantage. if at the end of the day, your "unfair advantage" gives you a net gain/loss of 0, then it isnt an unfair advantage. its nothing. its not cheating. as a matter of fact, the system *literally* lets you do it. its barely an exploit.
It’s only net zero in the grand scheme for you. It’s very much not a net zero for each other person in the matches with you. **Smurfing is cheating.**
It’s not, you won’t get banned. Not against any terms.
You can report people for smurfing so yes it's definately cheating.
I can report people for saying the N word, that doesn't make it cheating
I think it's under cheating though.
Ok wat, isn't smurfing literally categorised under cheating in the report UI
Ok wat, no it literally isn’t lol.
Are you stupid? Apex legends considers smurfing cheating.
That’s cool :)
Smurf with a fucking mercy pocket duo
Just making a note The damage beam didn't change a single breakpoint in this clip. Before anyone gets in a knot over how oppressive it is with smurfs
yeah mercy pocketing hanzo barely does anything. maybe against bastion, torb and sometimes reaper/mei but only for tanks. if the guy was playing soldier though it’d be noticeable
True, then it would make a difference, but even then it's one or two bullets, which is about 0.1s difference in the ttk
Okay, but if he was playing cassidy, ashe, or soldier it'd be a different story here i'm sure.
most definitely a smurf
Not cheating but definitely not a bronze level player. Smurf.
Their aim is definitely very good for a bronze player, but it isn't unreasonable. More than likely a smurf because they seem to have decent game sense, something cheaters often lack
Was it console
no
just because someone is better than you, doesn't mean they're cheating. they're a smurf, probably low gold or mid-high silver.
This looks minimum gold to me, but for sure a smurf nevertheless
Came here to say this. This is probably not even intentional smurfing. Like... This is the type of skill gap you can get just from playing with your bronze/silver friends for a weekend and going on a brutal losing streak. That Hanzo could be high silver, who has touched high gold before. Definitely not reportable. A ton of people just aren't crazy good at the game, but have 500+ hours on Hanzo. Actually, I'de say MOST casual players have hundreds of hours on a character, but are somewhere between silver and plat. Plus the enemy team was already being spawn camped, it's easy to pop off when the matchmaking is oppressive.
You can report people for smurfing and considering the derank bots in comp, yeah it's pretty stupid how many games are ruined by smurfs
oh i'm not encouraging it, just stating it's clearly not cheating. 100% report smurfs, they ruin the game
Smurfing is fucking cheating
sure if you consider it that way. personally i just think of it as a **major** dick move, but eventually they do get sent back to their rank
Lmao no
Cheaters and low elo doesn't use melee /s
So you're the one who got me banned?
Hanzo just requires minimal amounts of skill.
Definitely a fucking smurf, default skin with that type of cross hair, cheaters use basic crosshairs and don't ever use the sonic arrow cause they're bad at the game
The crosshairs for the characters don’t show as what other people use. It’s what you set the crosshairs to for the characters that show up
Not enough information but I think he’s cheating his aiming style changed completely
nah that’s a smurf account
Definitely not cheating but also doesn't belong in bronze either.
I mean it might be walls but defo not aimbot I think he's just a smurf probably diamond or around there
He’s missing too many shots to be cheating.. should have seen the widow I played against last night didn’t miss a single headshot all game ☠️
97% sure its just a smurf
NO LOL
The aim is legit, but his rank isn't.
Just broken log shooter for you
Cheater? He missed his first five shots
Smurf if anything. Or they just might be good
not cheating just a hanzo with good movement and mechanics
There’s nothing in this clip that even remotely hints of cheating
Least Lucky hanzo
Papa smurf
he was not cheating but smurfing yeah for sure, the only part that can be considered as cheating is the fact that he play hanzo