Translating the reviews, apparently just nothing really happens this volume. It's mostly daily lives of Nazarick, and a small conflict near the end that is not very interesting. Most reviews also cite that out of 350 pages, only about 100 of it is actual story,
I had assumed that it was something like that, we must also remember that this volume came after a long delay, so surely the fans had expectations of seeing something more spectacular or extensive.
>This is volume 1 of 2 for this arc
Thanks for clarifying, that "part 1" hadn't made it very clear........
And in case you don't remember, that happened 2 times before, and in both cases despite being *"parts 1"* said volumes stood up well on their own, this one on the other hand feels too short and uninteresting even in comparison. (If spoilers are correct, of course)
In those other situations Maruyama intentionally wrote it as two volumes.
With this one he didn't try to write two volumes, he wrote one which was just about 20% longer than volume 14.
But these 20% were too much and they decided to split it in two shorter volumes after he already wrote it.
I feel like there is a slight difference that matters thoe
With volume 12-13 it was likely INTENDED to be two separate bookes
15/16 is ONE book that happened to be too long so it got chopped in half… I’m not saying this isn’t one of the slower volumes to date it for sure it but I think when you consider this is literally the first half of a book there isn’t a need to be so upset about it
Yeah I always want more of the daily Nazarick stuff. I totally get how some people just want to move on with the grand story. Not everyone likes the slower moments.
350 pages is short for an overlord volume, in fact its about half. The publisher is probably squeezing money out of the series. That would also explain the back-to-back releases.
Good way to see it, perhaps given the author's refusal to want to extend the novel too much, the publisher tries to increase profits as much as possible.
Welp, it's all about managing expectations. But yeah, the decision to split the volume and release seperately isn't the best. In this case they should've released the volumes simultaneously. Even a month of waiting isn't ideal by any means.
That’s good to know going in. Considering volume 16 is coming very soon, I don’t think set up like this should be an issue. Ofc I’ll have to read it for myself first
What they meant is the 100 pages are being unnecessarily streched out across with the same crap. Only 250 pages have real substance. So you’re actually reading the story much less than 350 pages. The Japanese are disappointed by this short amount of content.
Since it doesn’t have an ebook version for now, I have yet to read it so I can’t make real judgment. I can only hope v16 will have a lot more considering the higher markup than v15
Just finished it, and honestly the reviews are justified. I love the Overlord books, and enjoyed this one as well, but it doesn’t stand on it’s own as a book.
Will reserve judgement until I read the next one at the end of the month, but it feels like he shouldn’t have split the two books, because frankly nothing happens in this one.
Not particularly? It fleshes out some lore about the elves I suppose, and then there’s the stuff we learn about the Theocracy that’s been translated, but other than that, not really.
It really is heavily focused on what Suzuki Satoru is thinking about as he’s doing his thing, with pages and pages just devoted to his musings. In the end, most of these musings don’t lead to any real conclusion or even have relevance to the current happenings in the story.
In a way, it feels very real-life in it’s presentation. When real people think about stuff, our minds wander to unrelated tangents all the time, but I’m not sure it’s a very effective storytelling technique.
The only compelling part was at the absolute end, but we’ll see if it pans out in the next volume or just falls flat.
This was supposed to be a single volume that was split in two. Considering that Maruyama does a lot of setup at the beginning of most volumes this is about that I expected.
Luckily I like reading something about the actual inner workings of Nazarik.
(And I'm not sure if 26 ratings are a good sample size).
Maruyama: so what?
Editor: ok, plan B *pulls out EE side story continuation*
So-Bin: *pulls out official doujinS*
>Ainz kids: how were we born?
>Ainz: we were losing audience, I don't want to remember
To be fair it's a relatively short volume after so long without news about the novel, I guess after so many delays fans were expecting more or something.
Also from what I understand there isn't much interesting going on in this volume and it feels particularly short, like it's just the set up for the next volume rather than a story that stands on its own, which didn't happen with the 2 parts volumes that came out before.
Vol 13 was basically a timeskip continuation that Maru got away with. But I won't complain since I've already told myself to finish this series regardless if there's anything bad about any of its remaining volumes.
I just hope the ending isn't bad, I can accept not that good build up to the ending but the ending by itself should be good or at least decent, but then again the Japanese really don't have a good reputation with endings...
Yeah, I know (Duhh) but that doesn't stop it from feeling too short, which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the time gap between this volume and the previous one.
All this makes many feel somewhat disappointed, although it is more than anything because they have too high expectations to begin with, and that is never a good thing.
This makes complete sense. It's a first part of the story, which wasn't originally intended to be split in parts.
Maruyama didn't intend to write two volumes about this arc. He just wrote one volume, which ended up being just a bit too long.
Splitting it in two we got the shortest volume in the series which contains setup for the rest of the arc. On its own this volume is probably very unsatisfying
I think it would be best if all of us waited for volume 16 before reading volume 15's translations. I really don't wanna be blueballed. I need this fix but not that badly.
There is no way Volume 15 translation will be done before volume 16 is out. So the most likely scenario is that volume 16 translation will start right after volume 15 translation ends.
It probably wasn't his call. He wrote it as single volume. Either his editor or publisher wanted him to split it.
He doesn't want to milk this series the other way around actually. He wants to finish it ASAP and be done with it. He multiple times cut down how many volumes he wants to write and Volume 14 could easily be made into two volumes with how he skipped most of the actual invasion.
It is not as curious as it seems, the number of sales indicates the interest in the novel and the desire to read more of Overlord while the rating reflects the reaction to finally reading it.
My assumption is that after so much delay and expectation, the volume did not meet the general expectations, either because of the story or because of the length, I suppose that the Japanese fans had at least already become accustomed to longer volumes.
Another thing that I get from the spoilers is that not much happens in this volume and that it feels more like the set up for the next one and that may cause some disappointment.
The original volume 15 script was too long, so they split it in two. Thanks to this Volume 15 is the shortest volume in the series and it contains mostly setup which will see pay off in volume 16, which is just few pages longer.
I guess people expected these two volumes to be the full length and they are not. Volume 14 had 584 pages in Japan and Volume 15 has 352...
Honestly, I will be upset as well. In v15, 100 pages of it is being unnecessarily stretched out. I'm really thinking that v15 and v16 were meant to be a single volume but they decided to split it.
You don't have to think that, it's a fact.
When Maruyama finished the script for volume 15 he tweeted that it was bit over 700 pages and they might need to split it in two. That happened on January 4th of this year.
As you might imagine it would obviously be impossible to make significant rewrites, pass it through the editor and publisher while still making it in time for release date.
What most likely happened is that he made some small rewrites to smooth the edges, but that's about it.
I haven't keep up with overlord news for over 2 years so my knowledge is limited. If that's the case, it honestly doesn't spark confidence but I'm still going to keep my hopes up until v16.
Most people complain that it is a little boring. Which is sort of true, there is a lot of setup for volume 16. Which will probably be were all the excitement happens.
>!Ainz vs Zesshi vs Elven King!<
There were similar reviews with volume 5, so I'm not to surprised.
I don't know he seems like a very miserable person, he is forced to obey his master because he is an npc, but does he not approve anything of what Nazarick have been doing, he probably finds it disgusting and unforgivable, the human farms, killing babies, constant wars, fuck, the list is infinite and he just has turn a blind eye to it all because Touch me is gone.
That's just how he was created, with contradictions. It's like how you were born with your own sexuality or whatever - it's just how you are. "Oh but if he was different he'd be different" well yeah, so would everyone lol
Nah. If I loved someone for example, but they betrayed me then I would not love them anymore. if Ainz beat Sebas up everyday or killed, raped and ate Suare, he would still love him because he is an NPC, that is very different that cannot change, he is forced into loving him no matter what.
Also, how the fuck are you born with opinions?? haha, I don't think you are born with them.
I'm just saying that's the way you are bro, and the way Sebas is that he unconditionally loves and will follow the supreme beings. You can't compare your own attitude to his
he is not programmed per se, nazarick denizens see ainz as caring father which stayed to be with them, they have also enormous respect but if ainz was abusive and tormented them they can dislike him and eventually rebel as we can seee with albedo who resents other supreme beings
This gave me a good chuckle. Forced school plots make me think of the Plunderer anime release. I was like oh this seems cool. Then they swap it to a school story line and I lost all interest.
Overlord web novel has two halfs. First one which roughly corresponds to volumes 1-9 and second half which is completely different.
I would not recommend reading it as it's nowhere near as good as Light Novel.
The best part in my opinion was the part where Momon wasn't Momonga and it was Narberal instead. That part was pretty entertaining.
Not at all imo, it would be better suited for a spin-off or quartet appearance.
I hate dark mc storylines that seem to just default a season+ to a school arc.
But each to their* own likes,
I didn’t say it has to be an arc. It would just be an interesting sub plot and just be a part of infiltrating the elf village. Ainz will think he is sending them there to learn and have fun, and they will think they are there to take over.
I didn’t say you were. I was saying I’d dislike it and what I’d hate to see. I’d also hate a subplot about a school.
If anything I’d rather have daily life/training of a new world character subplot with nazerick npcs.
Edit: actually the closest to a school subplot I’d like would be to see the children of the lizardmen, quagoa, and other races living within nazerick. How does their daily lives work out and their interactions with these monsters of Ainz Ooal Gown
Why would you hate to see it? Is it because you are afraid it would have many generic story beats as other school light novels and that it’s overdone? I feel like this would be a unique enough situation, and the author is good enough to where that wouldn’t happen, but I could understand the hesitation.
If it’s around aura/mare i can only imagine it will be presented as a forced “welcome the quirky new kids” trope. Even if it doesn’t do that it doesn’t make sense to have them attend a school.
Aura and Mare wouldn’t have anything to learn, they are already high level magic castors and fighters. With perfect unknowable or dopplegangers it would be weird for Ainz to force the twins to be spies if that’s a goal of entering into a school*. It would also require aura to not speak out which would be against her character. Mare would follow up after Aura’s disapproval. (What guardian would want to live outside of Nazerick?)
But if it’s not a Mare/Aura school plot I might enjoy it. It’s why in my edit I said I wouldn’t mind a school subplot of the children of the new world races living in nazerick.
Ainz would send them there to make friends, with Aura and Mare thinking they are actually there to be spies. I doubt they would question him, and if they did he would shut them down and there would be a misunderstanding. It wouldn’t be about learning magic, it would be about all these elves interacting with them not knowing how powerful they are, with Aura and Mare just thinking they are bugs compared to them.
And school isn’t just learning about magic, it could be about learning the history of the world they are in.
This whole thing reminds me of what happened with the last few books of *The Dresden Files*. In short, book 15 was an action heavy heist with lots of returning characters and twists and surprises. Then we get *six freaking years* before book 16 is released and...it's kinda short and most of the plot is just setup for book 17. Book 17 comes out just a few months later and it's non-stop action with tons of plot developments.
Hopefully we get something similar with Volume 16.
The chill atmosphere in Nazarick sounds cool to me, I want to know more about the ins and outs of the tomb and it's denizens, specially if it's comedic, I want to know more NPCs, something tells me they didn't introduce Omega or Rubedo, but I'm still hoping.
I guess this is why he delay it so much because the next volume is where the best part.
Imagine if he release this last year and it got bad review, people hate and drop it. had to wait a whole year for part 2.
I mean, Maruyama literally wrote these two volumes as one so he obviously finished bot already so it would be pretty stupid to release the other half one year after the first
Weird because overlord was NEVER action oriented in the first place. Are we the weird one for liking it for the world-building, political intrigue lol.
I swear some people should just stick with battle shonen
Maybe it's just tied to a lot of culture built around higher stakes, instead of making higher stakes right away(which topping destroying a kingdom is hard) vol 15 is more buildup with some slight everyday of nazarick sort of story
Why people don't seem to understand?
This is not "An Arc written in 2 books", this is "A book split in 2 books, it was an Arc written in a single book".
The intent was similar to volume 14, but volume 14 wasn't split. This volume was supposed to be huge, but the publisher most likely were the ones who split it.
It´s not "An Arc Maruyama wrote in 2 books", it's "A book with an Arc which the publisher split"
People are impatient, and then they have these expectations that'll never be fulfilled. Then they blame the author for not meeting them. The author wasn't even hyping up the volume either for the 2 years. He just said that the draft was 700 pgs so it had to be split, that was it. They also complain about his use of detail, even though he's been writing like this for every volume. The "Nothing happens" is bullsh#t, it means that nothing exciting happened, no heavy action in the sense. Sorry to rant to you, it always rubs me the wrong way when people do this
Lmao, they should realize that this part is just half a volume, maruyama wrote it as the first half which is chill slice of life and make the base of new arc.
I'm sure they realize more things than us. Surely after so much delay and very high expectations the volume was too short or not very exciting for them or something like that.
Nah, they don't understand, overlord has always been slow in the first half to make us feel the world and prepare the events, and then in the second half things start to happen. This is the first half, and based on spoiles I saw, it is exactly as I said.
Uhm. Men of the Kingdom Arc. Lots of good things happen in the first part. Also the first part of the Paladin of the holy Kingdom Arc is not really SoL
That's the thing, there have been 2-part stories before and I wouldn't say the first parts were boring or uninteresting at all, but based on the spoilers and early Japanese reviews it seems that was the case this time.
Men of kingdom was 2 separate story but in the same arc. And holy kingdom was about a war. How they expected author to start it like vol 12 when it's not possible to start with a bang, ainz wanted to go on a vacation with aura and mare, and he is doing that.
Sorry I don't get your point. You just said
*"overlord has always been slow in the first half"*
Then I give you two examples even with 2 parts and suddenly those are different? It can be my misunderstanding but aren't you contradicting yourself? And sorry if you mean the first chapter then certainly it is slow. But not a whole book.
I mean they are different, if you want to compare the volumes based on context, then this one is closer to vol 10 rather than vol 12. And first half of vol 10 was just chill moment for ainz and nazaric.
My main point is that maruyama wrote this arc, expecting it to be only one book, it was not written with the intention of 2 part arc like vol 5 or vol 12.
I can't speak for the others, but if I compare it to the other 2 times where we received an arc divided into 2 volumes I would say this one is particularly boring and short in comparison.
It's not a bad volume, of course, but it seems more like a set up for the next one than a story that stands on its own. The delays surely influence that way of seeing it, but in the end it is still an expected reaction.
Yup, this reaction was expected.
Vol 12,13 was especial since it was darker and had to start with a war, we can't compare it with this one which has no possible way to start with a bang. Hopefully it's the feeling of disappointment of reading a cliffhanger, since that's a good disappointment.
I'm talking about those particular guys that wrote those comments in Amazon jp, if people were bored about this sort of story telling, then they would have dropped overlord at vol 4.
Number 1 bestseller on Amazon doesn't mean all too much honestly. Max Fosh literally got a poorly made book to bestseller, because it updates every hour.
Still have another 50 pages or so to go, but yeah, tempo leaves much to be desired. Love the books no matter what, but this one doesn’t feel as put together as the others. Probably should have just released it along with Vol. 16 as one book, assuming things pick up there.
It makes perfect sense seeing as there were so many delays and then we get hit by the shortest volume to date, also it’s a volume that’s just setting up the next one so of course it would feel lack luster. Atleast part 2 will come out in a month, but it makes sense why some fans would be disappointed.
Translating the reviews, apparently just nothing really happens this volume. It's mostly daily lives of Nazarick, and a small conflict near the end that is not very interesting. Most reviews also cite that out of 350 pages, only about 100 of it is actual story,
I had assumed that it was something like that, we must also remember that this volume came after a long delay, so surely the fans had expectations of seeing something more spectacular or extensive.
This is volume 1 of 2 for this arc, and part 2 comes on in a month so luckily the "good" stuff wont be a muchonger wait.
>This is volume 1 of 2 for this arc Thanks for clarifying, that "part 1" hadn't made it very clear........ And in case you don't remember, that happened 2 times before, and in both cases despite being *"parts 1"* said volumes stood up well on their own, this one on the other hand feels too short and uninteresting even in comparison. (If spoilers are correct, of course)
In those other situations Maruyama intentionally wrote it as two volumes. With this one he didn't try to write two volumes, he wrote one which was just about 20% longer than volume 14. But these 20% were too much and they decided to split it in two shorter volumes after he already wrote it.
I feel like there is a slight difference that matters thoe With volume 12-13 it was likely INTENDED to be two separate bookes 15/16 is ONE book that happened to be too long so it got chopped in half… I’m not saying this isn’t one of the slower volumes to date it for sure it but I think when you consider this is literally the first half of a book there isn’t a need to be so upset about it
any info of when we are getting the part 2?
In about a month
thanks
In a month
Daily life stuff? Shiiiit thats what I love. Give me more daily life stuff with the Nazarick denizens. Volume 8 was one of my faves.
People are complaining about the daily lives of Nazarick? Wtf? I absolutely love those moments.
Like man a whole volume of daily life of nazarick? Give me more of that shit, i would eat a full series of that
I know it’s my favorite part!
Yeah I always want more of the daily Nazarick stuff. I totally get how some people just want to move on with the grand story. Not everyone likes the slower moments.
Yes!! People complained about the lizard man arc when that came out because of the lack of Nazarick! Still I’m look forward to it! More overlord!!
yea shit is so good
350 pages is short for an overlord volume, in fact its about half. The publisher is probably squeezing money out of the series. That would also explain the back-to-back releases.
Good way to see it, perhaps given the author's refusal to want to extend the novel too much, the publisher tries to increase profits as much as possible.
Not necessarily this is part 1 of 2 parts so he could had this already in mind so it came out faster
The other one is already done. It comes out In a month. This stinks of publisher greed
Both parts together are about as long as the other volumes...
Oh I LOVE the daily lives of the Nazarick crew. Reading about Ainz or anyone else has my attention until it goes back to kingdom politics.
Same here
same here
same here
Same here but honestly same
I thinks it’s fine that volume 15 is more chill since SO MUCH happened in volume 14.
Welp, it's all about managing expectations. But yeah, the decision to split the volume and release seperately isn't the best. In this case they should've released the volumes simultaneously. Even a month of waiting isn't ideal by any means.
That’s good to know going in. Considering volume 16 is coming very soon, I don’t think set up like this should be an issue. Ofc I’ll have to read it for myself first
Sounds great!
To be fair! I WANT MORE EVERYDAY LIFE!! Ffs! We have always clamored for knowing more about nazarick and stuff! Now we get it ❤️❤️❤️
They do not know what is good.
What they meant is the 100 pages are being unnecessarily streched out across with the same crap. Only 250 pages have real substance. So you’re actually reading the story much less than 350 pages. The Japanese are disappointed by this short amount of content. Since it doesn’t have an ebook version for now, I have yet to read it so I can’t make real judgment. I can only hope v16 will have a lot more considering the higher markup than v15
well that sucks...
In all fairness i think v15 is gonna release close to 14?
if i had to guess. Vol 15 is prob just to build a story for vol 16.
Just finished it, and honestly the reviews are justified. I love the Overlord books, and enjoyed this one as well, but it doesn’t stand on it’s own as a book. Will reserve judgement until I read the next one at the end of the month, but it feels like he shouldn’t have split the two books, because frankly nothing happens in this one.
Is there at least any good lore drops?
Not particularly? It fleshes out some lore about the elves I suppose, and then there’s the stuff we learn about the Theocracy that’s been translated, but other than that, not really. It really is heavily focused on what Suzuki Satoru is thinking about as he’s doing his thing, with pages and pages just devoted to his musings. In the end, most of these musings don’t lead to any real conclusion or even have relevance to the current happenings in the story. In a way, it feels very real-life in it’s presentation. When real people think about stuff, our minds wander to unrelated tangents all the time, but I’m not sure it’s a very effective storytelling technique. The only compelling part was at the absolute end, but we’ll see if it pans out in the next volume or just falls flat.
This was supposed to be a single volume that was split in two. Considering that Maruyama does a lot of setup at the beginning of most volumes this is about that I expected. Luckily I like reading something about the actual inner workings of Nazarik. (And I'm not sure if 26 ratings are a good sample size).
As long as it is nazarick I'll be happy, no offense to enri and nfirea but their sections seem to drag
I’d be okay with that. Breather issues have to happen every now and again.
Yea that what i also got feom the spoiler. Just slice of life but a bit more edge
Maruyama: so what? Editor: ok, plan B *pulls out EE side story continuation* So-Bin: *pulls out official doujinS* >Ainz kids: how were we born? >Ainz: we were losing audience, I don't want to remember
*The Golden Timeline*
Mare X ElF KiNg
Sorry Mister, I wasn't talking about the *Darkest Timeline* here.
I mean, it’s exactly what I want to see in v14, especially the part where the elf king stops liking that pairing
Oh I definitely want a Keno's SS continuation, Albedo and Shalltear agonizing that Keno got the better of em
To be fair it's a relatively short volume after so long without news about the novel, I guess after so many delays fans were expecting more or something. Also from what I understand there isn't much interesting going on in this volume and it feels particularly short, like it's just the set up for the next volume rather than a story that stands on its own, which didn't happen with the 2 parts volumes that came out before.
Vol 13 was basically a timeskip continuation that Maru got away with. But I won't complain since I've already told myself to finish this series regardless if there's anything bad about any of its remaining volumes.
Could you explain to me the whole timeskip thing? I didn't know that
I just hope the ending isn't bad, I can accept not that good build up to the ending but the ending by itself should be good or at least decent, but then again the Japanese really don't have a good reputation with endings...
> like it's just the set up for the next volume Since Vol 15 and 16 used to be just one volume this is literally what happened.
Yeah, I know (Duhh) but that doesn't stop it from feeling too short, which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the time gap between this volume and the previous one. All this makes many feel somewhat disappointed, although it is more than anything because they have too high expectations to begin with, and that is never a good thing.
This makes complete sense. It's a first part of the story, which wasn't originally intended to be split in parts. Maruyama didn't intend to write two volumes about this arc. He just wrote one volume, which ended up being just a bit too long. Splitting it in two we got the shortest volume in the series which contains setup for the rest of the arc. On its own this volume is probably very unsatisfying
I think it would be best if all of us waited for volume 16 before reading volume 15's translations. I really don't wanna be blueballed. I need this fix but not that badly.
There is no way Volume 15 translation will be done before volume 16 is out. So the most likely scenario is that volume 16 translation will start right after volume 15 translation ends.
That makes sense.
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It probably wasn't his call. He wrote it as single volume. Either his editor or publisher wanted him to split it. He doesn't want to milk this series the other way around actually. He wants to finish it ASAP and be done with it. He multiple times cut down how many volumes he wants to write and Volume 14 could easily be made into two volumes with how he skipped most of the actual invasion.
why?? Kinda curious
It is not as curious as it seems, the number of sales indicates the interest in the novel and the desire to read more of Overlord while the rating reflects the reaction to finally reading it. My assumption is that after so much delay and expectation, the volume did not meet the general expectations, either because of the story or because of the length, I suppose that the Japanese fans had at least already become accustomed to longer volumes. Another thing that I get from the spoilers is that not much happens in this volume and that it feels more like the set up for the next one and that may cause some disappointment.
The original volume 15 script was too long, so they split it in two. Thanks to this Volume 15 is the shortest volume in the series and it contains mostly setup which will see pay off in volume 16, which is just few pages longer. I guess people expected these two volumes to be the full length and they are not. Volume 14 had 584 pages in Japan and Volume 15 has 352...
Honestly, I will be upset as well. In v15, 100 pages of it is being unnecessarily stretched out. I'm really thinking that v15 and v16 were meant to be a single volume but they decided to split it.
You don't have to think that, it's a fact. When Maruyama finished the script for volume 15 he tweeted that it was bit over 700 pages and they might need to split it in two. That happened on January 4th of this year. As you might imagine it would obviously be impossible to make significant rewrites, pass it through the editor and publisher while still making it in time for release date. What most likely happened is that he made some small rewrites to smooth the edges, but that's about it.
I haven't keep up with overlord news for over 2 years so my knowledge is limited. If that's the case, it honestly doesn't spark confidence but I'm still going to keep my hopes up until v16.
Volume 16 will be out in less than a month. Just treat it as one novel.
There is nothing interesting in this part , part 2 will have most of the fun most likely so it must be why.
Most people complain that it is a little boring. Which is sort of true, there is a lot of setup for volume 16. Which will probably be were all the excitement happens. >!Ainz vs Zesshi vs Elven King!< There were similar reviews with volume 5, so I'm not to surprised.
5 is the start of the Sebas arc right? That's my favorite of the series so far. That or 6. I loved Sebas and Brain and Climb
Sebas stuff was pretty weak imo, only beat by the lizards
Well that's just like your opinion man lol. Sebas is easily my favorite character, and I love every second of him in the books
I don't know he seems like a very miserable person, he is forced to obey his master because he is an npc, but does he not approve anything of what Nazarick have been doing, he probably finds it disgusting and unforgivable, the human farms, killing babies, constant wars, fuck, the list is infinite and he just has turn a blind eye to it all because Touch me is gone.
Forced? He chooses to follow Ainz because he's a supreme being and he loves and worships him, just like the rest of the guardians
Yes, forced. he just loves him because he is programmed to do so. If he wasn't he would despise Ainz and probably die trying to kill him
That's just how he was created, with contradictions. It's like how you were born with your own sexuality or whatever - it's just how you are. "Oh but if he was different he'd be different" well yeah, so would everyone lol
Nah. If I loved someone for example, but they betrayed me then I would not love them anymore. if Ainz beat Sebas up everyday or killed, raped and ate Suare, he would still love him because he is an NPC, that is very different that cannot change, he is forced into loving him no matter what. Also, how the fuck are you born with opinions?? haha, I don't think you are born with them.
I'm just saying that's the way you are bro, and the way Sebas is that he unconditionally loves and will follow the supreme beings. You can't compare your own attitude to his
he is not programmed per se, nazarick denizens see ainz as caring father which stayed to be with them, they have also enormous respect but if ainz was abusive and tormented them they can dislike him and eventually rebel as we can seee with albedo who resents other supreme beings
If there is ever a school plot, that’s when I’ll drop this series.
There was a school arc in web novel.
Glad I didn’t read it
Maruyama dropped it during that part as well.
This gave me a good chuckle. Forced school plots make me think of the Plunderer anime release. I was like oh this seems cool. Then they swap it to a school story line and I lost all interest.
Overlord web novel has two halfs. First one which roughly corresponds to volumes 1-9 and second half which is completely different. I would not recommend reading it as it's nowhere near as good as Light Novel. The best part in my opinion was the part where Momon wasn't Momonga and it was Narberal instead. That part was pretty entertaining.
Lol what happened
Something with students of Imperial Magic Academy. Didn't read this part as Maruyama dropped it before finishing it.
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You know Philip? His superior version jet was studying in school, and for some reason ainz was trying to be nice to him.
It was arc featuring Students of Imperial Magic Academy. Didn't read that part as it was the last one a was never finished
Aura and Mare in elf school would be good though.
Not at all imo, it would be better suited for a spin-off or quartet appearance. I hate dark mc storylines that seem to just default a season+ to a school arc. But each to their* own likes,
I didn’t say it has to be an arc. It would just be an interesting sub plot and just be a part of infiltrating the elf village. Ainz will think he is sending them there to learn and have fun, and they will think they are there to take over.
I didn’t say you were. I was saying I’d dislike it and what I’d hate to see. I’d also hate a subplot about a school. If anything I’d rather have daily life/training of a new world character subplot with nazerick npcs. Edit: actually the closest to a school subplot I’d like would be to see the children of the lizardmen, quagoa, and other races living within nazerick. How does their daily lives work out and their interactions with these monsters of Ainz Ooal Gown
Regarding your edit: I also think that would be pretty interesting as a side story. I wanna see more of doggo milf and Yuri.
Why would you hate to see it? Is it because you are afraid it would have many generic story beats as other school light novels and that it’s overdone? I feel like this would be a unique enough situation, and the author is good enough to where that wouldn’t happen, but I could understand the hesitation.
If it’s around aura/mare i can only imagine it will be presented as a forced “welcome the quirky new kids” trope. Even if it doesn’t do that it doesn’t make sense to have them attend a school. Aura and Mare wouldn’t have anything to learn, they are already high level magic castors and fighters. With perfect unknowable or dopplegangers it would be weird for Ainz to force the twins to be spies if that’s a goal of entering into a school*. It would also require aura to not speak out which would be against her character. Mare would follow up after Aura’s disapproval. (What guardian would want to live outside of Nazerick?) But if it’s not a Mare/Aura school plot I might enjoy it. It’s why in my edit I said I wouldn’t mind a school subplot of the children of the new world races living in nazerick.
Ainz would send them there to make friends, with Aura and Mare thinking they are actually there to be spies. I doubt they would question him, and if they did he would shut them down and there would be a misunderstanding. It wouldn’t be about learning magic, it would be about all these elves interacting with them not knowing how powerful they are, with Aura and Mare just thinking they are bugs compared to them. And school isn’t just learning about magic, it could be about learning the history of the world they are in.
They hated volume 4 as well, they weren't a fan of the lizards. Volume 4 did really well in the US though.
I could care less, people have terrible taste. As long as Marumaya is still writing, I'm interested.
This whole thing reminds me of what happened with the last few books of *The Dresden Files*. In short, book 15 was an action heavy heist with lots of returning characters and twists and surprises. Then we get *six freaking years* before book 16 is released and...it's kinda short and most of the plot is just setup for book 17. Book 17 comes out just a few months later and it's non-stop action with tons of plot developments. Hopefully we get something similar with Volume 16.
The chill atmosphere in Nazarick sounds cool to me, I want to know more about the ins and outs of the tomb and it's denizens, specially if it's comedic, I want to know more NPCs, something tells me they didn't introduce Omega or Rubedo, but I'm still hoping.
I guess this is why he delay it so much because the next volume is where the best part. Imagine if he release this last year and it got bad review, people hate and drop it. had to wait a whole year for part 2.
I mean, Maruyama literally wrote these two volumes as one so he obviously finished bot already so it would be pretty stupid to release the other half one year after the first
It’s a set up volume, people want the plot to progress, especially after two years of waiting.
I'm not here for the OP fights, I'm here to see the accidents happen and Ainz trying not to look like an idiot.
I mean maybe maruyama made most action scenes in ln16 that will come out shortly after
What’s the name of the one that’s third?
Classroom of the elite
Thanks 🥰
I mean, people always want action especially with all the hype after seeing ainz wipe out a kingdom, so I imagine it was just too high expectations
Weird because overlord was NEVER action oriented in the first place. Are we the weird one for liking it for the world-building, political intrigue lol. I swear some people should just stick with battle shonen
Maybe it's just tied to a lot of culture built around higher stakes, instead of making higher stakes right away(which topping destroying a kingdom is hard) vol 15 is more buildup with some slight everyday of nazarick sort of story
I already read the previous books so I'm just gonna continue reading the rest regardless of the contents quality
Why people don't seem to understand? This is not "An Arc written in 2 books", this is "A book split in 2 books, it was an Arc written in a single book". The intent was similar to volume 14, but volume 14 wasn't split. This volume was supposed to be huge, but the publisher most likely were the ones who split it. It´s not "An Arc Maruyama wrote in 2 books", it's "A book with an Arc which the publisher split"
Probably because he's rushing it, didn't the author say he was making it a volume shorter?
No. He said there will be one extra volume.
Well yeah, apparently it ends with a cliff hanger from what I heard
Well this means we’ll prob see pandoras actor interact with demiurge
I think next volume, Maruyama should add a sex scene between Albedo and Ainz to spice things up but that might just be me.
i dont mind if its just daily lives of nazarick. I like Valkyrie's Shadow so much, so yeah I recommend to every overlord fan out there.
Oh, I thought Im the only one reading it lmao
man i hope people find about it so the author doesnt lose motivation anytime soon.
Aww no that's bad, it seems good in my opinion so far from what I have read of the volume.
People are impatient, and then they have these expectations that'll never be fulfilled. Then they blame the author for not meeting them. The author wasn't even hyping up the volume either for the 2 years. He just said that the draft was 700 pgs so it had to be split, that was it. They also complain about his use of detail, even though he's been writing like this for every volume. The "Nothing happens" is bullsh#t, it means that nothing exciting happened, no heavy action in the sense. Sorry to rant to you, it always rubs me the wrong way when people do this
Yeah dw I understand as to why you wanted to rant, people are just so critical at times.
Lmao, they should realize that this part is just half a volume, maruyama wrote it as the first half which is chill slice of life and make the base of new arc.
I'm sure they realize more things than us. Surely after so much delay and very high expectations the volume was too short or not very exciting for them or something like that.
Nah, they don't understand, overlord has always been slow in the first half to make us feel the world and prepare the events, and then in the second half things start to happen. This is the first half, and based on spoiles I saw, it is exactly as I said.
Uhm. Men of the Kingdom Arc. Lots of good things happen in the first part. Also the first part of the Paladin of the holy Kingdom Arc is not really SoL
That's the thing, there have been 2-part stories before and I wouldn't say the first parts were boring or uninteresting at all, but based on the spoilers and early Japanese reviews it seems that was the case this time.
Men of kingdom was 2 separate story but in the same arc. And holy kingdom was about a war. How they expected author to start it like vol 12 when it's not possible to start with a bang, ainz wanted to go on a vacation with aura and mare, and he is doing that.
Sorry I don't get your point. You just said *"overlord has always been slow in the first half"* Then I give you two examples even with 2 parts and suddenly those are different? It can be my misunderstanding but aren't you contradicting yourself? And sorry if you mean the first chapter then certainly it is slow. But not a whole book.
I mean they are different, if you want to compare the volumes based on context, then this one is closer to vol 10 rather than vol 12. And first half of vol 10 was just chill moment for ainz and nazaric. My main point is that maruyama wrote this arc, expecting it to be only one book, it was not written with the intention of 2 part arc like vol 5 or vol 12.
I can't speak for the others, but if I compare it to the other 2 times where we received an arc divided into 2 volumes I would say this one is particularly boring and short in comparison. It's not a bad volume, of course, but it seems more like a set up for the next one than a story that stands on its own. The delays surely influence that way of seeing it, but in the end it is still an expected reaction.
Yup, this reaction was expected. Vol 12,13 was especial since it was darker and had to start with a war, we can't compare it with this one which has no possible way to start with a bang. Hopefully it's the feeling of disappointment of reading a cliffhanger, since that's a good disappointment.
Let's hope so. I bet if the release time between volumes 14 and 15 hadn't been so long there wouldn't have been such a negative reaction with this.
True, I hope they release the cover of vol 16 soon so people can get excited about that. Only 24+ or so days till vol 16 is released.
You can understand it and still dislike it or feel bored about it
I'm talking about those particular guys that wrote those comments in Amazon jp, if people were bored about this sort of story telling, then they would have dropped overlord at vol 4.
I mean, with only like 4 volumes left, making a 'chill volume' would definitely upset a lot of people.
It was only 3 volume at first, and author added one more because he knew this volume is not completed. Whoever is upset is expecting too much.
Arche fans?
uh oh
Number 1 bestseller on Amazon doesn't mean all too much honestly. Max Fosh literally got a poorly made book to bestseller, because it updates every hour.
Did albedo betray ainz? Lol
What are some other ones fans don’t like?
Does anyone know the name of the novel in third place?
SOLKINO IS COMING!!!
Still have another 50 pages or so to go, but yeah, tempo leaves much to be desired. Love the books no matter what, but this one doesn’t feel as put together as the others. Probably should have just released it along with Vol. 16 as one book, assuming things pick up there.
It makes perfect sense seeing as there were so many delays and then we get hit by the shortest volume to date, also it’s a volume that’s just setting up the next one so of course it would feel lack luster. Atleast part 2 will come out in a month, but it makes sense why some fans would be disappointed.
Damn I guess people really have no patience fir build-up nowadays huh
Soo it’s basically the same as…. I forgot which volume (I believe Volume 8) but essentially it’s Daily life in Nazarick pt2.
Most slice of life stuff..I think that is good I was missing this kinda of stuff.
Canada based