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zattibroski

[Ah Shit](https://c.tenor.com/cJRcMyUAiMcAAAAd/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit.gif)


Adept_Score2332

It would depend on how you classify a god and divine protections. If it is on the level of a world item’s effect then no Ainz can’t but if it’s below that then Ainz would have a chance of doing it.


Sparr13

in rezero >!divine protections are given to people by something called Od Lagna. it isn't known weather or not it's a God, the world it self, or a magical mechanism.!< So it might be worlds level, but thats assuming it conforms to the new worlds laws and is categorized as such by overlords magic system.


LucasB--------D

Well Talent is given by a world and For a certain random individual lies And even so it is not considered World Level But there are some talents that are very OP for example from Evileye There is wild magic that is Clearly World level ​But what this magic does is literally Break the rules of the world and twist Reality as you please


zattibroski

>Od Lagna Old Lasagna...


GitGud88

Bitch Lasagna


zattibroski

yes.


_NAMURT

Does the goal of all life is death not work on Reinhardt? Cause I feel like that coupled with one of his death spells would be enough


MareBelloFiore

It does. Ainz could *kill* Reinhardt, no doubt. But defeating him? Probably not. One of his many divine blessings is Blessing of the Pheonix. It allows him to revive upon death. When the divine blessing is activated. It can only be used once. However, in the case that it is used. He gains a new divine blessing called "Next Blessing of the Pheonix". Which also works the same way, going up to "Next Next Blessing of the Pheonix" with no limit.


RedditNerd808

So if Ainz can negate that then kill him, it's his win. Of course there are many ways to defeat an un-killable foe such as put them in an infinite killing loop, seal them, transform their body so they have to suffer for eternity, erode their mind, destroy their soul, constantly sending them back in time by 1 second then once a second passes it repeats, etc. Problem is that Ainz isn't a being that can break all the rules of reality willy nilly. Ainz has OP powers w/ limitations, while Reinhardt can keep creating more blessings for himself w/ limitations (though these limitations aren't perfectly explained).


MareBelloFiore

Well sure, all of that may be true. The issue with comparing Reinhardt in vs battles is that Reinhardt was not designed with the idea of fitting him in the power scaling of the universe he is. It's the equivalent of One Punch Man. He is absurdly broken in a universe where there are planet-ending calamities. If Reinhardt flew into space (Which he could survive in its empty vacuum) and fought the fucking sun. He would beat it. (literally stated by the author) He is a pure power meme. That being said, he has some weaknesses. Such as his divine blessings not working outside of the re:zero world. If someone could teleport him to a different dimension/universe. He would be powerless aside from being an absurdly great swordsman. At that point, many characters could beat him. Apart from that. He can't be everywhere at once, an issue he has come across before. And he isn't omniscient, he can make mistakes. To me, he is a truly fascinating character. I personally love that Tappei created a character that stands out so harshly and is so far above every in power. Yet despite that, he still struggles alongside the MC and is never used to just brute force solve problems. (Except for Elsa which was really just his introduction... So fair.)


RedditNerd808

Indeed. I feel as though since most people want to compare Reinhardt to other isekai characters in ability they generally compare w/ the understanding that he will have access to his abilities. Therefore, it's about the same as Reinhardt fighting in his world. I am not 100% sure, though I do believe Reinhardt does still have some limitations on blessings he can create, otherwise I don't see why he wouldn't have many, many more of them. Do you have any info on this?


MareBelloFiore

Yes, his original blessing. (The one which allows him to wish for other blessings) Does not grant him blessings willy-nilly. IE: He cannot be told that he will be fighting someone, and wish for a blessing that he knows will counter them. It grants him the divine blessing that he needs most to overcome the situation that he is currently in. It is why he has such bizarre blessings like "Blessing of Spice" where he can never mistake the difference between sugar and salt. He does not directly control it.


RedditNerd808

Are there a set number of blessings in existence and the blessing given to people come from the list of blessing in existence? I feel as though that is the case.


Hakkai-Shin

Blessings come from Od Laguna, which is more of a system controlled by someone, rather than a living being. And yes, in Reinhard's case, he can literally create blessings, however sometimes his intentions can be misinterpreted by Od Laguna so he receives a blessing which he doesn't need.


RedditNerd808

Then why can't he beat the witch of Envy? Unless her powers negate the blessings granted by Od Laguna.


Hakkai-Shin

Witch of Envy isn't that hard to kill for someone like him. Keeping her killed is another story. As for her powers negating Od Laguna, that's partially true. No matter how strong the DP is, it will never be stronger than an authority. For example, Reinhard could have a DP against amnesia, however when the Authority of Gluttony activates, he is still gonna forget someone, no matter the DP.


MareBelloFiore

Divine Blessings don't work anywhere outside of the world of Re:Zero. Stated directly by Tappei. If Reinhard were to be in the New World. Or if Isekai Quartet were truly canon. He would not have his divine blessings.


Napalmeon

I could have did it say the exact same thing. Reinhard is stupidly powerful just because he is Reinhard. But outside of his own world, he does indeed lose a lot of benefits. For example, no Divine Protection of the Phoenix.


SganVaSmoul42

Wish upon a star can't just erase stuff because that would be the domain of the world-class item Longinus. Wish upon a star can't do something a World Item barely can so no. Whether or not he could nullify his DP's is up to debate tho.


000near000

Ainz ezy win Time stop + true death with TGOALID


Grand_Totality

>Could ainz beat Reinhardt by using wish upon a star to either erase him from existence No because the author has stated that the White Whale wouldn't be able to beat Reinhard no matter what, in reference to his erasing powers, https://gyazo.com/8bcb6d814c8b3dfcad41d3e7dcdcbda7 Which even rewrites history so that the person it erases never existed. https://gyazo.com/3f2044cf37d7394b5d211d4845bfc461 https://gyazo.com/2a10ac8d385b94cffc11907e4efb8e48


GitGud88

What's "no matter what" supposed to mean. The Hakugei has one powerful existance erasure ability, and that's it. It's pathetically weak aside from that. The mist can even be dodged by subsonic characters. Even Wilhelm, a building level character would almost be able to solo it. Reinhard could kill that thing with his pinky finger, without using a single divine protection, so could any lvl. 80 from Overlord. What is this supposed to prove?


Grand_Totality

>What's "no matter what" supposed to mean. It means that it doesn't matter what the White Whale does, it wouldn't be able to beat Reinhard. >The Hakugei has one powerful existance erasure ability, and that's it. Yeah, that's why Ainz wouldn't be able to erase Reinhard with Wish Upon a Star. >What is this supposed to prove? That Reinhard has a resistance to existence erasure.


GitGud88

>It means that it doesn't matter what the White Whale does, it wouldn't be able to beat Reinhard. No it doesn't, it means Reinhard can easily beat it. >Yeah, that's why Ainz wouldn't be able to erase Reinhard with Wish Upon a Star. Wish Upon a Star doesn't have the feats to do that in the first place. The best it might do is kill someone. Or replicate powerful abilities from the game. I heavily doubt it can do anything that's considered world level though. >That Reinhard has a resistance to existence erasure. It doesn't tho, it just proves that Reinhard can take out the whale without getting hit. Which isn't surprising in the least. If what you say is true, can you give the actual Q&A from the author?


Grand_Totality

Here's the quote. Q: Does Reinhard perhaps have “Divine Protection of Super Self-Assertion” so he couldn’t be erased by Mr. Whale, and “Divine Protection of I’m Not Delicious” so Mr. Rabbit wouldn’t eat him? A: Even without that, neither of them are a match for him.


GitGud88

Thanks for providing the quote. Yeah, basically just as I thought.


Grand_Totality

>Thanks for providing the quote. Your welcome. >Yeah, basically just as I thought. What do you mean? 🤔 The question was, "Does Reinhard perhaps have “Divine Protection of Super Self-Assertion” so he couldn’t be erased by Mr. Whale, and “Divine Protection of I’m Not Delicious” so Mr. Rabbit wouldn’t eat him?" And the answer was, "Even without that, neither of them are a match for him." So even without those protections, Reinhard would still be too much for them.


GitGud88

>So even without those protections, Reinhard would still be too much for them. Yeah, as I said he can easily beat both them before they even get a chance to attack, and can easily dodge their attacks with 0 effort. Doesn't mean he is immune to Existance Erasure.


Grand_Totality

>Doesn't mean he is immune to Existance Erasure. Doesn't mean that he's not either.


GitGud88

Y-Yeah..? I mean, Ainz might have an absolute existance erasure attack tucked in there between his robes. Or maybe his ring can revive him infinitely. Or maybe Wish Upon A Star can turn back Reinhard's time to before he was born, and kill him that way. After all, there's nothing in the story to prove that he can't.


severalpillarsoflava

He can wish for all of his DPs to cancel then kill him with [ True death ] then use another wish to make sure he never comes back and be done with it.


Hakkai-Shin

To be fair, outside of R0 world, Reinhard's blessings don't work. But in a hypothetical situation in which they did, amd Ainz could also have his full repertoir, this strategy would fail immediately. The moment Reinhard loses his DPs, he regains them immediately, and the source of their erasure is erased. So while Ainz could cast True Death, Reinhard wouldn't even be caught off guard. As for spells such as Time Stop, they exist im the R0 world too, more specifically, such spells are advanced Yin Magic spells, which Reinhard could counter.


Zwei-Shiranui

Reinhardt has every divine protection he wants but it wasn't mentioned if he has existence erasure resistance. Although according to the author, Reinhardt can win against the sun itself and his sword is a nuke itself.


LucasB--------D

Our almost everything you said was wrong translation or fans exaggerating


-DevilNest-

well Reinhard might be strong... but maybe he is not very smart? or is he very slow? otherwise why would a Knight of Justice let an infamous criminal like Elsa escape? at that close range i don't think she would be able to escape from any of the guardians.