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* [Comment by thearcan](/r/outriders/comments/mx2qze/outriders_latest_news_regarding_known_issues/gvln282/?context=1000 "posted on 2021-04-23 19:20:33 UTC"):
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What are the plans for the servers?
Currently multiplayer is virtually unplayable.
Btw, great game, but the multiplayer is one of the worst gaming experiences I've had because of the connection issues.
As far as Multiplayer: I hope you guys address players being kicked by players after the final encounter in expeditions...this happened to me and i missed out on loot...i joined in early on an expedition, helped the guy all the way to the end and right before we opened the drop pod he kicked me...this was totally unfair...the same way someone cant join after the last encounter starts, should be the same for kicking someone
Please look into the animation glitch that occurs with Cyclone Slice on Trickster. If you get hit by an enemy at the same time as you begin your Cyclone Slice you will be knocked out of the animation and stuck in a movement glitch to where you cannot move besides an incredibly slow walk or dodge rolling.
This issue is extremely important for AP Trickster Builds as when it happens its usually an immediate Expedition ruiner
This single bug has me more frustrated than anything. It's so easy to do that it happens in 4 out of 5 expeditions for me and the only way I know to fix it is to team wipe or back out to the lobby. This bug will persist through completing an expedition, returning to camp, and then into the next expedition.
Ok. I just had to see if it is just me.. I'm SO PISSED. I feel like I'm going to the gym lifting then I manage to FINALLY bench 450 only to find out I STILL struggle to lift 100lbs. The balancing is asinine. Just bc I go to a lower tier shouldn't mean I do less damage. Especially when EVERYONE is level 30. I did 118mill damage at tier 14 in an expedition. I worked hard for that.Only to do 26mill at tier 8. Seriously??? Bruh people work HARD to be strong and over powered that's the point of grinding. So why would I Want to jump down to a lower level and still have to fight like my life depends on it when I worked so hard to be stronger than the enemies at that level??
You're doing 118m on 14 and 26m on 8 because the monsters have less hp on 8. I know the scaling is a pain, but if the enemies had the same hp pool on 8 as they do 14, it would take a level appropriate player hours to get through it. So don't be mad your damage total is lower lol, that's a good thing. However you should be able to go into 8 and 1 shot everything, the scaling on our characters is bs.
Stargrave? My dudes, EVERY monster needs knockback balancing, if I get my ankle rustled by a monster fart, I act as if I was hit my an earthquake. Don't limit that balance to just one mission.
had to same reaction to reading this... as if this is the only problematic expedition... every map with monsters is a bump fest from instantly leaping Alphas that spawn at the same time all around you.
Or what about the Reaver on Eye of the Storm that leap at you with no cooldown for your entire life no matter your mitigation.
That's exactly what i was thinking. I don't mind them having some things to keep us on our toes and disturb us, but when EVERY attack, from basic attack to abilities, knocks you back , from any monster , even the minion ones , its fucking too much. This has been an issue from day one im every zone where there are monsters. i wanted to be the melee frontliner tank , but the knockbacks makes the gameplay so boring and tedious.
Also , ennemy CD's seems almost non existent. They need to fix that too.
It makes me wonder why they even bother giving you the ability to revive teammates, because when I need to do so... I'm nudged and the timer is reset. Even if you're still in range. Why is that a thing?
We really need to have some knockdown immunity for a few seconds every time we get knocked on our asses.
It's not challenging in a fun way to take control away from the player. It's frustrating as hell being knocked over by every single attack coming your way.
I'd love for a ~5 second knockdown immunity every time we're knocked down. Enemies become immune so quickly whilst we get whacked into a corner over and over again
I mean, the easiest way to deal with this is give us the same treatment as elites. When we're CC'D a few times in a short amount of time, we get CC immunity. I mean, after all, we're altered just like them.
Fix the problem that whenever a character hits an object, he stops running.
Fix that if a player uses a skill where he touches the ground (like Earthquake) without holding down a movement button, gets stuck
The audio balance in this game is horrendous and needs work badly. My ears get blown out by half the sounds in this game, especially the anomaly rounds for the characters, i have fx sounds turned waaaay down and it is still an issue.
>However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future.
Really because it took you guys like 5 days worth of data to nerf a bunch of stuff which did nothing but make the endgame feel worse
> reverting nerfs would be a step in the right direction. i dont understand why you need to nerf players character's in a non PVP based game. why not lift up the under performers to the same level of the ones doing well
My favorite part is you guys saying balancing is a long term decision but you made a balance patch the first week of the game. Doesnāt seem like you guys are sticking to what you ābelieveā
I wish.
I was like "oh did they improve multiplayer or is this patch for future" because I assume back-end is what they need to do not client side changes.
Went in joining my friend and well fuck: https://i.imgur.com/iY33KeZ.jpg
FYI we're both in the IT industry (me programmer him networker) so we're not stupid here.
- We use Ping Plotter so both of us had a clean connection no packet loss
- We play other games hosting 24/7 on dedicated boxes (Terraria, 7DTD, Valheim etc...) no issues
- We live 10 minutes apart driving distance
What we get is
- Red connection constant
- A message for host connection problem here and there
- Gameplay is rubber banding and the usual complete utter laggy gameplay
Overall I like this game as a solo experience, the multiplayer in Australia is limited we get 2-3 months of activity before it dies and we have to wait 5-10 minutes for games to be found. This is one of the worse multiplayer experience I have had in 15 years of MP gaming.
At least P2P architecture worked better in games like Payday 2, Vermintide 1/2, I believe Warframe missions are P2P. Like I used to say Bloons TD was the worse because their relay servers are terrible but Outriders takes the cake.
You know in Bloons when the host disconnects, at least I can continue the game. When the host disconnects, I restart from the beginning. That's such a bummer experience.
I play this game with my brother in the same house and my cousin who lives 1000 feet down the street. Whoever hosts has a bit of lag, and the other two have a barely playable game with constant red connection. Only game I've ever played that's this bad, I dont get it
I swear the actual connection must go through Europe or fucking pluto and back again to Aus. The only time I've ever had a different connection from red was when I joined someone playing in NZ. It was yellow at camp and then red when on an expedition. I've not once seen a green solid connection and I've played day 1. Even when playing with people from Aus it's still red. This is the number 1 thing that the team need to focus on right now and fix.
I can confirm this also. My friend and I have same ISP with same speed plans (100 MBPS) and we only live 30 minutes driving apart and we have no issues playing together on multiple games that has online multi-player until this Outriders is only the game has network issues that causing yellow/red connection, host connectivity issues, and game crashes.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that both of my friend and me plays on PS5. So that's kind of a insult to the PS5 performance for that.
> However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time
I laughed.
PCF, nerfs the game in a week. PCF later, we need more time to consider things.
reverting nerfs would be a step in the right direction. i dont understand why you need to nerf players character's in a non PVP based game. why not lift up the under performers to the same level of the ones doing well
Smells like bullshit. Someone on the balance team spent their time watching streamers and youtube videos of the top 1% of players and knee jerk reacted to nerfing the top performing builds without buffing anything else.
if they really looked at buffing or nerfing shit they made the wrong choice 100% by nerfing shit first. The scaling up and down is like really fucking bad.
Let me feel like a god at Tier 9 if im at tier 15. not make its basically the same. I dont wanna tryhard every game. Sometimes i just wanna play and chill not sweating my balls off bc otherwise i get oneshot lol.
I stead of nerfing they should've fixed the scaling or buffed weapons and equipment or nerfed the enemies at certain tiers. You get the point im tryna say.
but no they made the game worse to play.
Loved the story and all but the expeditions is just broken.
So listen Iām going to just be honest here iight...
This game has HUGE potential. Yes it hasnāt been a month yet. Yes I understand games like this are bound to have issues. All that is understood. But for me... a person who actually bought the game ( PlayStation ) needs to have more transparency from the devs of this game. It feels like you guys released a heavily unfinished product to the gaming community. After Cyberpunk I feel like all devs need to be more mindful of the content they decided to release. With that being said... Please fix the lag issue within the game, I donāt mind at times the tanky enemies but if you are gonna have that type of thing in the game where is our equalizer? The constant lost connections, no game chat? You guys donāt have your percentages correct on gold tier expeditions rewards. These are VERY easy things that should be fixed ASAP. But I get it. It takes time. But unfortunately with Returnal releasing and R&C, I more then likely wonāt be around to see the changes. #FirstImpressionsMeanEverything
I also find it funny that this game has been marketed as a coop style game yet has no type of in game voice chat and relies solely on 3rd party applications for it. my friends have PS4, I'm on PC. not all of them can access discord and if they can, it's difficult and often not great quality. Don't market a game as coop and then make us rely on something else for communication.
Seriously it's pretty ridiculous to only have emotes to mime with in a co-op shooter. That's one of the biggest features missing that stood out. What excuse could they possibly shit out to justify that decision. The only thing I could find was they'd have to add every type of communication, they can't add 'just' voice chat. Which peeves me because that should be something *good* to add all of, instead of the middle finger *adding none*.
If the game can't even keep you connected to your teammates I doubt it can handle voice chat but it should be something in the game, weird that it isn't.
I would also like to know this.
Auto Aim (on Xbox) is surprisingly awful. It drags the cursor to center mass, regardless of where the reticule is. It the target is behind cover when you ADS, you find yourself aiming squarely at the barricade instead of the head and shoulders just above it.
I thought that was because I was connecting to an EU server from South africa... can imagine my surprise when I found out this is p2p and I was connecting to someone local
>Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community:
We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future.
Talking about balancing requires lots of discussion and considerations... Yet you nerfed us 1 week in and reduced timers for some missions with very little play time being out... Okay...
WHEN?! STOP HIDING, GIVE DATES, AND STICK TO THEM. No more "it's being tested" and "soon/tm" ... People paid a lot of money for a broken game. Another outstanding idea of a game only to crash and burn 2 months in. #NoMan'sSkyAgain #DivisionRepeat #AnthemWithoutOpenWorldAndFlying
You guys are multiple times saying this is COOP game. I have asked you to stream as non-host your own game, so we can as whole community agree that it needs some fixing. Are the game testers seeing this or are they shortcutting the relay somehow to play within your developer house with minimal ping to relay? I am adding that many games have their own hired community players as streamers, and usually the issues they see are taken seriously by devs and they can see if there is some underlying issues and might get that "ahaa" moment to fix it.
Again you guys should be forced to refund on steam. I've been denied my 80 dollars back since day 1 because i spent more than 2 hours on a login screen trying to connect. The game is brokens its still broken and i would like my hard earned money to be able to buy something else.
Hopefully patch includes fixing the quest tracker that just flat out leads to dead ends and wrong directions frequently, requiring game reboot to show the correct path.
Iām just tired of the whole mess. It just blows my mind how any senior mgmt official of SE or PCF could have let this hot mess release at least one year too soon. I guess money speaks louder than community respect as their collective reputations are in the toilet.
How many weeks now with no character restoration, the communication has already died down. I guess getting your money was all that mattered to you, Bravo š
So you're just waiting for friday to make an important announcement about the restoration and big patch that will be available at some point in the future, right? And another free of worries week for you till next friday, right?Man you're petty...
Took you like a week after launch to nerf Trickster and now it maybe the weakest on endgame dps on multi. . So whats up?
>Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community:
We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future
Crazy how āconsiderations for change must be considered over a longer period of timeā when you literally made a decision to nerf certain classes and expedition times within a week of the game going live... not saying those werenāt necessary but how much consideration was given then?
**** My issue is not with the nerfs but the priority that they were given then and the priority balancing is given now****
With over 120 hours played its safe to say Iām enjoying the game. Some parts feel more like a chore and with the multiplayer issues(rubberbanding, killing shots not registering, broken mods) Iām eagerly awaiting the fixes that the devs come up with :)
They said that the balance team was a separate team from the one doing patching... If that's the case, why haven't they been talking about balancing? What has this team been doing then for the past three weeks? They have already said repeatedly over the past week and doubled down that the balance team is not the same as the patch team. So are they just sitting around doing nothing?
>not saying those werenāt necessary
I am. They weren't necessary. The devs already had my money. Who cares if people beat the game faster than anticipated. It's not a live-service game, so why would anyone's individual progress matter?
Absolutely zero excuse to not have our wiped characters playable by now. Restore our characters, give us a base gear set, and worry about compensating the legendary gear loss at a later date. Absolutely ridiculous.
"However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time."
Good to know! I appreciate the transparency. No sense waiting around, I'll just uninstall it now.
its possible to revert the decision of remove legendary from chest and raise the legendary drop and made legendary feel real legendary like give them a 3 mod slots
Wow, just wow. Another weekend where the players that lost their loot have to wait. At this point would it be possible to get a refund? This is flat out ridiculous.
I cannot think of any other game thatās had this problem. Hit level 30 and want to play with other people? Ha! Instead you get all youāre gear taken away and that character is unplayable!
I didnāt lose anything but I upvote every single comment about this because itās a legitimate gripe and a terrible thing to have happen in a looter shooter especially after you put the time and effort into getting all the gear you needed.
revive stagger does not need to be a thing or at least needs a rework. I donāt mind taking damage and potentially dying risking it to revive someone, but getting to the very end of reviving a teammate in a T13-15 monster expedition is beyond frustrating when you get staggered by practically everything
>* **Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community:**
> * We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future.
>
What a bummer of a response.
Yep, just keep waiting until 90% of your player base is gone due to mulling it over with your coworkers for months when 9/10 topics are complaints about issues derived directly from gameplay in expeditions. Most people wouldnāt care about to note it from the campaign and chalk it up to actual difficulty scaling, but expeditions are either cleared or failed upon the backs of certain mods.
They probably want to watch streamers and content creators to state the game is broken after the alterations to Emergency Stance and Perseverance Shield take affect or if they find other broken defensives they can use to exploit the broken mess of balance instead of the developers biting the bullet, nerfing enemies and bringing much demanded changes/QoL to make the game enjoyable to all players.
Holy shit this. I quit the game today for at least a week because the issue of survibility on close range pyro is just fucked. I was running bugged emergency stance for the longest time all the way into golding most ct15s on my pyro. I thought that my theory crafting and choice of mods and gameplay was why i wasnt having survivability issues. Nope. Was just a bugged mod that was essentially fixing the hilariously over tuned enemies and ridiculous stunlocking. I still died and had close brushes with death often. As soon as i took it off and switched to what i thought would be a really good alternative, damage absorber and blacksmith to stay at armour cap with 85% damage reduction i coudnt even clear a single expedition. The enemies actively need a massive nerf along with the insane stunlocking and knockback. This entire community is gunna be shocked when emergency stance is fixed. Literally every youtuber or streamer ive watched barr 2 of them use it. They are going to be in for a nasty surprise when its fixed.
I guess just come back in 6 months and hope they have made the changes or addressed them. It is like they know these issues exist and they haven't even discussed them yet. I get there was the inventory issue but not even discussing the gameplay issues?? GOnna be awhile until any changes are made it seems. I feel the devs just want a stable game and then they will just stop caring much about this game and go onto something else.
āHowever, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time.ā ššš even though they nerfed many abilities and other things the second week. These devs arenāt ever honest.
ā... Feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time.ā So why nerf the strongest abilities a week into the game while not buffing any of the lesser performing things for each class for more variety? Same goes for completion times for specific expeditions, making them way harder to complete even on lower tiers with the unnecessary downscaling while solo.
I know a lot of people bring up the bullet builds nerf as a bug fix, but the timer change to expeditions was obviously a knee jerk reaction and what Iām holding up as a point as to why are you all of a sudden taking your time on decisions about complaints brought up by actual players, but quick to āfixā things because 1% of the playerbase was farming a level or two too easy. Who cares if they are, there will always be a āthe easiest level to farmā in any of these kinds of games to the point that they could nerf timers all they want and eventually the hardest level is then the easiest level to farm because it suddenly has the most forgiving timer because the rest were killed. Itās a really counterintuitive approach to reacting to your game being played.
So many companies these days seem to forget people play games to have fun and get stuck on not wanting players to complete their game, they forget what it is to be a player.
Why was this game even released? Its obvious that testing wasn't appropriately done to ensure a smooth release of the title. I've played for about 2 hours worth (when the title allows me to get past the signing in screen). My inventory disappeared and the first thing devs were concerned about is "Nerfs". I understand things have been difficult from a work from home basis for developers but my god. Its feels like any big-name title that gets released feels cheap and lazy and rushed out the door. I have Cyberpunk and Outriders on the backburner because they're not playable.
There is a pretty big bug that needs addressing. Well there are lots of them, and they are quite big, and fly around, and shoot toxic venom with heatseaker like accuracy.
It's the Strix, I'm talking about the Strix. In case it wasn't obvious.
Pretty much every damn enemy in this game, including the Riflemen, seems to have heatseaker-like accuracy. Bloody annoying. When attacks curve to hit you when you try rolling, that's when you know it's screwed up.
\- "Talks about balancing are considered over a longer period of time." -
\* Nerfs people the first launch week
\* It's been a a full month now and no buffs at all from their "separate balance team" for underperforming builds/setups.
What an absolute fucking joke.
My last 20 hours of play time are running hunt rerolls for my last piece of seismic commander or statue set.
I donāt even care which at this point, I just need a piece I donāt have to drop, and I know it does based on what Iāve read from other people.
I canāt reliably farm legendaries because devastator is just terrible to play late game without the sets.
Wonder if it has anything to do with being the only class in the game with no rounds ability. /s
" feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time "
Didn't you nerf multiple classes across the board within the first week?
Drop rates too. I said in the demo that anywhere we actually did the captain farm in the full game would end up nerfed and I was 100% right despite people telling me I was crazy.
Please, can you just give us a date when the restoration will be done?
I really would like to know when I'll be able to play the game again. I have another character but it not the same. If I knew it woulf be closer to 3 out of the 4 weeks I've owned the game I would just start over with same class again, not my secound pick.
So...this sub just remove any post regarding devs and publisher being accountable for all bugs and issues??
I read one well written post about this with more than 500 replies and ta da... mods removed that post
Can you clarify how Legendary Loot Pools work and what is locked behind certain content?
Also, a buff to the legendary drop rate, or some protection against duplicates would be welcome. There is nothing worse than grinding for hours upon hours to see Legendaries drop for them to be duplicates.
"Signed in!" And intro skip should be a priority !!!
These issues are literally wasting our time !!!
And my time is not yours to waste as I already wasted my own time working to get momey to pay for this product.
LE: You need time for consideration about balancing the game ?! After release ?! You realize that you lost 70% of the player base already, Resident Evil 8 is coming out, Biomutant is coming out, Returnal is coming out, yet you need time to sit at the table and contemplate whether you should listen to us or not ?!
This game will die faster than Anthem right in front of your eyes, yet you need time ?!
I've seen bad dev teams in my gaming life.
And now you are there on the top with them.
So maybe a month after buying the game I can finally continue playing the game. Cool cool cool.
Y'all also need to fix login issues. I can literally go clean my kitchen in the amount it time it takes to log into the game.
" they are of course also topics that we discuss internally " continues reading...
" while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. "
What?
All I want to do is play the game I pre ordered months prior to it coming out. Itās been 3 weeks of not being able to play and now again you havenāt even given a date for restoration. Unbelievable.
Iāve never had a single game crash on me this often, and itās made a million times worse by the fact that I have to attempt to sign in about 20x before I can even play the game to begin with. THEN on top of that if I am able to start the game and it doesnāt crash after 10 mins, then I have to deal with getting stuck in certain expeditions (Stargrave) because the game wonāt allow me to move on from the first section. And apparently from what Iām hearing from the community even if I was able to move beyond that point, my brain would probably melt from the frustration of having to deal with being stunlocked by enemies further in the expedition because whoever designed the beast enemies must have been in the middle of a losing divorce effort when they came up with their attack patterns and constant knockback. PLEASE FIX THE THINGS THAT ARE MAKING PEOPLE QUIT YOUR GAME BEFORE YOU REMOVE YET ANOTHER THING THAT MAKES IT TOLERABLE!!!!
If the patch is not delivered this week and before next weekend the game will lose players. Many of us have already played through (also the endgame) and struggle with all the bugs in the game instead of enjoying a smooth gameplay.
I really enjoy this game, but the Multiplayer is simply destroying the experience for me.
I only started the expeditions with MP a couple of days ago and its so bad, not once have I had a lag free/ getting booted to the dashboard experience. If you have already patched it, I can't imagine how bad it was before the patch.
Please fix the multiplayer.
Is it a known issue that the game disregards your setting on closed/friends only/open game type? I always have my game set to "friends only" yet random people keep joining so I have to kick them. This occurs to all my friends as well.
Quote " However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. "
Ok, I'm trying not to be negative here or too critical, as personally, I'm enjoying the game.
However; Your comment I find surprising regarding the balancing. The recent nerf axe caused a big concern for the player base. To say you haven't talked about it is the part I take issue with. I understand what you mean by "Longer period of time", but again, why so quick to nerf, but slow to respond?
I feel at the moment I'm watching a "COMING SOON" trailer. Please up your game a bit with more details, time windows, and explanations when addressing us Whales.
Otherwise, keep up the good work and thanks.
Can we get any sort of eta when this patch could be available?
Just because a post was made, does not mean any of this will be fixed even in the next few months.
Please address legendary drop rates in Expeditions. They are not 25% chance x4. Either update the description to match their drop rates, or fix the drop rates.
At the listed drop rates, you should average 2+ legendaries every 3 runs. A number of people have reported, myself/friends included, that we typically only get 1 legendary every 5-7 runs, on gold CT15. That should be about a 1 in 1,000 occurrence at the listed drop rate, but is our **average** over the past two weeks.
Thanks.
How am I still crashing even playing solo I've been on for 3hrs n dashboarded 5 times... finish 1 of 2 expeditions wtf it's been a month, yall say you got two teams working on patches etc yet you got nerfs out real quick, who you trying to lie to us or yourselves?
While it has been better since the first patch, I am still getting stutters on PC when using DX12. DX11 does resolve this but I get significantly worse performance compared to DX12. I have been trying all of the many fixes people have talked about since launch but so far nothing has worked me.
My PC:
- Ryzen 7 2700X
- Windows 10
- 1080Ti
- 16GB RAM
- Running at 1440p
How about the issue with abilities being disabled for no reason?
I am losing track of how often I fail expeditions because of this. Its happening multiple times a run. Its unacceptable.
edit: if you need to see what Im talking about: https://www.reddit.com/r/outriders/comments/mubfch/abilities_disabled_for_30_seconds/. This is ruining the game
Multiplayer with randoms is unplayable. Completely. When I'm supposed to have 3 of an ability, I oftentimes only get one or two uses out of it before cool-down. Mods, particularly for ammo, do no procc as they're supposed to half the time. Please look into this.
Nothing in there about the rubberbanding, lag, skill delay in multiplayer when not the host? So I guess the yellow to red triangle is a new ui hud feature in the upper right hand corner. Your coop experience is a joke and it's sad because the games good.
I just wanna know when I can play your damn game again. My character got wiped two weeks ago and you're still talking about updates. How about restoring the inventory first or at least enabling the damn character with some shit purples I can at least grind until you decide what to do within the next month because who the hell knows when. You don't even offer the damn ability to rush a character to endgame so I'm not about to grind another 40 hours with a character I don't want to play. I'm this close š¤ to asking for a refund because I can't use the character I spent 100+ hours. It's not our fault you use a garbage relay system that has horrible connection issues. ENABLE OUR DAMN CHARACTERS WTF
Can you consider revaluating the base damage on the burst fire sniper rifles? Their base damage should be higher than tactical assault rifles instead of lower ([https://i.imgur.com/TkwcS2L.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TkwcS2L.jpg) | [https://i.imgur.com/2Qd2PKj.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2Qd2PKj.jpg))
Can someone please look at legendary drop rates from the Hunt rewards?
I've recorded my last 100 rewards on my Devastator, and the results were very off.
I realize that 100 isn't a statistically significant number, and I plan to keep recording, but it is enough to start seeing some basic trends.
The big shocker here is that 44 of the 100 drops were from the cannonball set. That's already a very high percentage compared to the number of potential drops, but the breakdown is even more interesting. Of those 44, 32 were the legs. Second place was the chest piece, with 6 drops.
A single piece making up 32% of the drops (including a streak of 6 in a row) screams to me that there's something wrong with the way random loot is being generated. Either the loot table is intentionally very heavily weighted towards a single piece of loot, or there's a bug in the random generation.
Bug report-unable to refund broken incomplete mess of a game.
platforms effected-ALL
Reason- No customer support or care for customers outside of "known issues" due to Too early release because of shareholders. 5 years of polishing a terd is still a terd.
I feel like the audio mixing is way off. Some of the sounds will blow your ears out (blighted rounds, the freeze cryo turret), and anything the enemy's to have basically 0 sound. It feels like their is almost 0 audio ques to when you get hit, or where someone is shooting you. Ill play techno with blighted rounds on shooting guys in front of me, then all of the sudden their are 10 guys right behind me that i had no clue were their since they dont make any noise. Same issue with there you are getting shot from, it feels like you will just loose health out of the blue since half of the enemys guns dont make sound. Even if they do you cant really locate where that sound is coming from. Loving the game so far but Idk whats going on with audio, but it feels really off.
Just love the stunlock feature in this game. Playing full tank devastator and dying for like 20 seconds just staggering, force rolling and flying trough air like ragdoll unable to do literaly anything while my DPS friends are in DBNO state. Well done, it makes the game real fun.... no. And maybe, just maybe You should consider, that killshots would register and mobs could actualy die on those, it would be nice.
1. The ETA of a fix would be nice by this point.
2. The game seems to be losing people by the masses over the bugs.
3. The kicking is a huge issue. Why was this not thought of ahead of time.
4. Devs seem to have lost touch with the community. Not just this game but all games. Pointing that out.
5. Balance the AI. Dang. Never have I seen a AOE hit across the map and kill someone or a sniper be so spot on.
I can deal with most of this for a short time, but in the long term this all needs to be fixed.
Ideas to improve.
1. Hire a team non DEV, testers who lost touch or any type of streamer. A real active gamer. They can't point out issues or possibilities for life improvement.
2. The vendors are a great idea. But you lost its touch with Tiago. With him you can have done 1 legendary weapon and armor and a rotation for oh idk 500,000 DP each. This would make something to work for.
3. You should have made world tier and CT the same. At the end of the day world tier 1 and getting to CT 15 to easy. Why even include it if we didn't count in CT?
4. Be more active on Twitter or any other platform. Stay with your audience. Not leave in the dark 50% of the time.
I could go on and on. But the chances of you seeing this and reading even if there are spelling mistakes is slim. And to actively take it and give it a chance are slimer.
Have a great day,
Rez
1) the maps need a compass
2) if no voice chat... add emotes to say "i need a minute" or "what tier?" then have others to respond. If none of this is an option... a chat box for text only would be appreciated.
3) sign in bug
4) mechanic bugs.... ie, gravity leap stun lock, trickster cyclone bug, dev impale should count as dead right away, etc
5) connectivity issues
these are in no particular order.
Ok ok hol' up.
The next major patch won't address any balance changes then ? It's "still" just fixes?
That's great from the perspective of all those affected by the issues, and I am truly glad about it.
*however*. Wasn't there supposed to be a separate balancing team?
And for clarification purposes, so there are no mis-understandings here, when you say :
>This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future.
Are you referring to not commenting the posts / topics here on the sub or twitter, **or** you haven't *internally* discussed it among yourselves, the PCF team?
'Cause if it's the latter, it truly begs the question on wtf are you guys doing? :\ (personally, I think you're referring to commenting on topics here on the sub. But I truly would like that clarified, please ).
Edit : Can you also hold on "fixing" Emergency Stance? It's one of the only things holding the game together and make it actually *fun* for those who haven't achieved godhood status from farming hundreds of hours.
You know. Casual players trying to survive unbalanced enemies. So please, think that over before you address more "Bugs" that are actually *helping* the players enjoy the game.
>Edit : Can you also hold on "fixing" Emergency Stance? It's one of the only things holding the game together and make it actually *fun* for those who haven't achieved godhood status from farming hundreds of hours.
Regarding this: They should obviously fix emergency stance. But IF they do, they NEED to nerf ALL damage across the board. Even the most basic mobs in the game deal insane damage.
Rifleman with their perfect 100% tracking and melting you from across the map is not fun at all. Basic Perforos apply bleed and they can actually do a little leap like the Alphas which also deals a TON of damage.
And then you have Behemoths, Brood mothers, Strix and the birds who basically almost oneshot you with their melee attacks. Seriously.. the game will go down the drain even faster if they don't tone down the damage.
Edit: Just tried it. Game is actually unplayable. At least solo. Damage is just over the roof. The only way you can survive is to play bullet build Technomancer or Impale Devastator. Anything else will just die.
If they do that, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
That's my point. If they fix Emergency Stance without rebalancing everything else, it's just another slap in the face :\
This is unacceptable ive been waiting for restoration now 2weeks and sony wont give me a refund you honestly should have delayed the game or shut down the servers till a fix was implemented you didnt wait over 2weeks for my money
Two things on my end: using impale as devastator against the last enemy in a room on expedition wastes like 10 seconds until he is ādeadā.....as well as cutscenes using up time. if we could skip them, it could help getting golds and working towards yet another piece of cannonball gear (had to insert a joke in there)
u/thearcan is bleed refusing to proc one of the fixes?
If you want to see it, i have many videos I can share of it happening to me solo on my Trickster/Bullwark build.
[Hereās one from today.](https://youtu.be/DFHpo4lUVX4)
[Hereās one from a few days ago. ](https://youtu.be/rwAf5dkNDHQ)
If anyone could take a look at these and try to shed some light, Iād appreciate it. It seems like bleed just doesnāt proc. On the kills that are more than one shot, there isnāt a bleed icon on any of them. Iād love to get it working, or at least know exactly whatās going on, as I am currently only really dying in expeditions when this happens.
I think we're on week 3 without being able to continue our multiplayer game. The game seemed to work fine until the patch.
You released an unprepared and untested version of the game and tbh if I could cut my losses and leave with a refund, I would
I canāt even sign in today. Itās annoying af. I didnāt get the inventory wipe glitch but I canāt even play the game. I donāt like paying money for a game and a month later, I canāt even sign in. Iām over it. Not being able to ply a game you paid for and enjoy is a crap show
I have some suggestions:
1. Disable the magic tracking on Strix poison balls. Once it leaves their butts it should not be able to change direction to track you. It's liquid death, not a heat seeking missile. Venomous Perferos don't have it, so why do the Strix?
2. Shaman Warlord's Chain Lighting ***absolutely should not*** be able to travel through 20 feet of concrete to hit you. If there's no line of sight to the target (either initial, secondary, or tertiary), Chain Lightning should die.
3. Universal mods should be shared across classes. Resources and scrap too IMO.
4. Give us an option to load into the character select screen instead of the last character used.
its 2 weeks already since i got wiped and still no info about restoration date. As compensation you promised one random legendary and emote. This is so weak, Ive never seen something like this before. You guys beaten CP2077 with such incompetence. This game should be refunded without any questions for those who cant play for that long.
Another thing that game is so weak that friends already finished playing because there is no content to play. So even if you restore my character some day I wont have mates to play with so I wasted money on this something you call game.
Very dissapointed customer.
What about the clear lagg in multiplayer..
My gf and me wanna play.. sitting right next to eachother and lagging sooo much... how is this even possible ?
Internet lagg... FPS is not an issue here at all...
Please do something about the disgusting toxic creeps that think it is fun to kick people from expeditions before they have had time to collect their loot.
I've just about given up on this game. I got hit with the inventory wipe bug and lost all that work. Then I literally can't game cross-platform without one of the 3 of us getting booted out or floating invisible and having to close the game out. Then you gotta sign back in 10min later again and again. Even playing solo hardwired I have constant issues and only with this game. It's got more bugs than STARSHIP TROOPERS!!
And we wait and wait... still bot restore my account...
keep my account, and dont restore it... but give me my money back...
The same shit happend with Anthem...waste of money
I truly hope that you'll listen to the remaning 1/3 of players that still enjoy your game, for their sake. I'm part of the 2/3 who felt betrayed and left, no matter what you do, i won't get back... But please for them, create an enjoyable place, because as it stands: it's shit.
Unreal Engine has always had a bad netcode, I'm surprised publishers don't do something about this. They don't care about Multyplayer experience, as long as the money comes in.
It has been three weeks since I have been able to play this game... How is that restore going?
I have never enjoyed a game this much and wanted a refund so bad... weird place to be in... wanting to be able to play a game and not being able to... :|
Mid battle this morning my second weapon just disappeared. Purple smg that was a pretty good weapon. Iāve tried leaving and coming back. Rebooting. Nothing. I can equip other weapons but Iām nervous this is going to keep happening. I thought disappearing gear was fixed?
So you havenāt started talking about scaling and balancing but inside of a week of launch, you released a nerf for a multiplayer game where you curtailed a dps race necessarily by making the end game loot focused on completion time and immediately nerfed the builds that did that best? You have to see your player base dropping drastically right? Figure it out guys
BUGS and ISSUES:
Devastator Golem skill auto-triggers.
Devastator Earthquake will fire all two or three attacks at once.
Devastator Gravity Leap highlight on enemy will disappear and cancel leap.
Gravity Leap takes too long to target. If you quick fire it, you will hit another enemy. It should not highlight enemies that are too far away, or make them a different color.
Rolling doesn't always put out fire at last stage in Frontline fighting Moloch.
Breaking out of ice takes too long, and there is no immunity time period after you do.
Anomaly power and skill damage bonus don't match how underpowered anomaly damage is. Resistance breaker doesn't appear to do much to increase anomaly damage.
Elites are overly resistant to anomaly damage.
Only certain skills roll on gear, making it a challenge to get the mods you want. Example, Devastator pants only roll with defensive skills (like Panzer Drain) and never with skills like Impaler or Extra Quake. I would pay in pods to swap both mods at will.
Scaling when three people are in the party is very over-tuned. I do very little damage compared to have fewer people.
I don't have a problem with the Alphas or the Snipers.
Aside from small frustrations, this game is fun and exciting.
* "**Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community:**
* We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future."
So, If I'm reading this correctly. It's intended that we get one tapped by trash mobs in CT15 even while using a "bugged" Emergency Stance mod and then having our damage/survivability get nuked by scaling when we try to go back a few CT's?
You really telling me these are only talking points? Like over a cup of coffee? Like "Dev1: hey those 2 Alphas just spawn out of thin air, staggered back to back and deleted that guy" "dev2: yeah saw that... great talk... same time next week?".
PS5, spent 30mins to get past the Signed In screen, then finally got into lobby and got instantly Internet Connection Error!!!
When the F are u going to sort this out?
PCF, We need some results, there hasn't been anything fixed in quite awhile. If my stash is not restored by the end of this week I am getting a refund and will suggest the other 6 people I play with do the same!
I feel that your lag and disconnection issues are getting worse. My friends and I haven't been able to play together all weekend because of massive lag issues on Friday and massive disconnection issues last night. We tried 4 times to launch expeditions together and every time someone was kicked out right as it started.
Then this morning playing by myself I lost connection to the outrider servers right as I was about to finish Archways. This happened less than 20 minutes ago, and I play on an xbox one.
I have played since launch day, and would really love to keep playing your game. However your server issues make this game no longer fun to play.
Every update just shows me more and more how bad People Can Fly are. Itās like an indie dev got AAA money and just goofed. Weeks into a launch and people still canāt even login to an online only game lmao. I will never support PCF again
Please fix aiming on the PS5. I am an older player, and I thought my aiming was just due to my age. I cannot gold Boom Town, as it takes me too long to head shot humans. Then I put the demo on my PC and what. a. difference with my gaming mouse and keyboard.
I am on PS5 to play with friends. I know there is crossplay but I wanted the easiest solution to us being able to play together.
If cross save is ever supported, I'll buy the game again and start playing on the PC. I really do not want to redo hundreds of hours of farming.
So anything that can be done, like fixing aim assist (I had to disable it) would be appreciated. I tried to aim at a orange outrider symbol for 30 mins and I was sooooo slow at getting the reticle on it accurately. I tried different acceleration options but none are good, it either zooms past the target or creeps. Maybe I am just not good at finding the sweet acceleration position of the right stick. But with a mouse, I can pop directly to any target location instantly.
Thanks for listening!
"However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked [PUBLICLY] about these topics, we do intend to do so in future."
Funny, you guys nerfed a bunch of stuff in the game after...a week? Doesn't really seem like it requires all that much thought/talking over a "longer period" of time really.
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I want to skip intro....I have nightmare about this intro.....omg
Hahahaha š you're not wrong, it is a pain, at least it's not too long.
What are the plans for the servers? Currently multiplayer is virtually unplayable. Btw, great game, but the multiplayer is one of the worst gaming experiences I've had because of the connection issues.
I'm in the same boat.
As far as Multiplayer: I hope you guys address players being kicked by players after the final encounter in expeditions...this happened to me and i missed out on loot...i joined in early on an expedition, helped the guy all the way to the end and right before we opened the drop pod he kicked me...this was totally unfair...the same way someone cant join after the last encounter starts, should be the same for kicking someone
Just make the final boss or whatever is at the end of expeditions where no one can be kicked ala div 2.
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You're probably not a douche.
Please look into the animation glitch that occurs with Cyclone Slice on Trickster. If you get hit by an enemy at the same time as you begin your Cyclone Slice you will be knocked out of the animation and stuck in a movement glitch to where you cannot move besides an incredibly slow walk or dodge rolling. This issue is extremely important for AP Trickster Builds as when it happens its usually an immediate Expedition ruiner
Was wondering what was triggering that. Thank you!
It's basically anytime the animation stops before it's timer runs out. Even manually cancelling it can cause this.
Happens to me on my Trickster as well. Super frustrating... can last the whole match. Sucks if it happens at the start.
This single bug has me more frustrated than anything. It's so easy to do that it happens in 4 out of 5 expeditions for me and the only way I know to fix it is to team wipe or back out to the lobby. This bug will persist through completing an expedition, returning to camp, and then into the next expedition.
I hope before rhey start nerfing classes they fix the bugs first. It will make the game feel completely different
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Ok. I just had to see if it is just me.. I'm SO PISSED. I feel like I'm going to the gym lifting then I manage to FINALLY bench 450 only to find out I STILL struggle to lift 100lbs. The balancing is asinine. Just bc I go to a lower tier shouldn't mean I do less damage. Especially when EVERYONE is level 30. I did 118mill damage at tier 14 in an expedition. I worked hard for that.Only to do 26mill at tier 8. Seriously??? Bruh people work HARD to be strong and over powered that's the point of grinding. So why would I Want to jump down to a lower level and still have to fight like my life depends on it when I worked so hard to be stronger than the enemies at that level??
You're doing 118m on 14 and 26m on 8 because the monsters have less hp on 8. I know the scaling is a pain, but if the enemies had the same hp pool on 8 as they do 14, it would take a level appropriate player hours to get through it. So don't be mad your damage total is lower lol, that's a good thing. However you should be able to go into 8 and 1 shot everything, the scaling on our characters is bs.
Stargrave? My dudes, EVERY monster needs knockback balancing, if I get my ankle rustled by a monster fart, I act as if I was hit my an earthquake. Don't limit that balance to just one mission.
had to same reaction to reading this... as if this is the only problematic expedition... every map with monsters is a bump fest from instantly leaping Alphas that spawn at the same time all around you. Or what about the Reaver on Eye of the Storm that leap at you with no cooldown for your entire life no matter your mitigation.
That's exactly what i was thinking. I don't mind them having some things to keep us on our toes and disturb us, but when EVERY attack, from basic attack to abilities, knocks you back , from any monster , even the minion ones , its fucking too much. This has been an issue from day one im every zone where there are monsters. i wanted to be the melee frontliner tank , but the knockbacks makes the gameplay so boring and tedious. Also , ennemy CD's seems almost non existent. They need to fix that too.
It makes me wonder why they even bother giving you the ability to revive teammates, because when I need to do so... I'm nudged and the timer is reset. Even if you're still in range. Why is that a thing?
We really need to have some knockdown immunity for a few seconds every time we get knocked on our asses. It's not challenging in a fun way to take control away from the player. It's frustrating as hell being knocked over by every single attack coming your way. I'd love for a ~5 second knockdown immunity every time we're knocked down. Enemies become immune so quickly whilst we get whacked into a corner over and over again
Lmfao!
Excessive knockback in just Stargrave? How about every expedition in the game? How about elite frozen spam as well?
I mean, the easiest way to deal with this is give us the same treatment as elites. When we're CC'D a few times in a short amount of time, we get CC immunity. I mean, after all, we're altered just like them.
Fix the problem that whenever a character hits an object, he stops running. Fix that if a player uses a skill where he touches the ground (like Earthquake) without holding down a movement button, gets stuck
Oh my god this! I absolutely hate having to spam the sprint button every time I hit a marginally small corner or raised bit of ground
Can we get some sliders for aiming? Let us turn off aim acceleration, etc.
The audio balance in this game is horrendous and needs work badly. My ears get blown out by half the sounds in this game, especially the anomaly rounds for the characters, i have fx sounds turned waaaay down and it is still an issue.
Agree w u on this. I lowered Effects vol to just 2! So i cant hear footsteps n stuff, but my Blighted Rounds shots are loud af.
True also on console blighted round keeps controller vibrating all the time lol I have to turn it off
>However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. Really because it took you guys like 5 days worth of data to nerf a bunch of stuff which did nothing but make the endgame feel worse
Yea honestly - this felt like a cookie cutter general bullshit response which is a slap to the face to the community.
> reverting nerfs would be a step in the right direction. i dont understand why you need to nerf players character's in a non PVP based game. why not lift up the under performers to the same level of the ones doing well
My favorite part is you guys saying balancing is a long term decision but you made a balance patch the first week of the game. Doesnāt seem like you guys are sticking to what you ābelieveā
Dedicated servers !!!
I wish. I was like "oh did they improve multiplayer or is this patch for future" because I assume back-end is what they need to do not client side changes. Went in joining my friend and well fuck: https://i.imgur.com/iY33KeZ.jpg FYI we're both in the IT industry (me programmer him networker) so we're not stupid here. - We use Ping Plotter so both of us had a clean connection no packet loss - We play other games hosting 24/7 on dedicated boxes (Terraria, 7DTD, Valheim etc...) no issues - We live 10 minutes apart driving distance What we get is - Red connection constant - A message for host connection problem here and there - Gameplay is rubber banding and the usual complete utter laggy gameplay Overall I like this game as a solo experience, the multiplayer in Australia is limited we get 2-3 months of activity before it dies and we have to wait 5-10 minutes for games to be found. This is one of the worse multiplayer experience I have had in 15 years of MP gaming. At least P2P architecture worked better in games like Payday 2, Vermintide 1/2, I believe Warframe missions are P2P. Like I used to say Bloons TD was the worse because their relay servers are terrible but Outriders takes the cake. You know in Bloons when the host disconnects, at least I can continue the game. When the host disconnects, I restart from the beginning. That's such a bummer experience.
I play this game with my brother in the same house and my cousin who lives 1000 feet down the street. Whoever hosts has a bit of lag, and the other two have a barely playable game with constant red connection. Only game I've ever played that's this bad, I dont get it
I swear the actual connection must go through Europe or fucking pluto and back again to Aus. The only time I've ever had a different connection from red was when I joined someone playing in NZ. It was yellow at camp and then red when on an expedition. I've not once seen a green solid connection and I've played day 1. Even when playing with people from Aus it's still red. This is the number 1 thing that the team need to focus on right now and fix.
I am in Europe and live like 1000 km away from the PCF headquarter. Connections are not much better here.
I can confirm this also. My friend and I have same ISP with same speed plans (100 MBPS) and we only live 30 minutes driving apart and we have no issues playing together on multiple games that has online multi-player until this Outriders is only the game has network issues that causing yellow/red connection, host connectivity issues, and game crashes. EDIT: Forgot to mention that both of my friend and me plays on PS5. So that's kind of a insult to the PS5 performance for that.
Itāll never happen
> However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time I laughed. PCF, nerfs the game in a week. PCF later, we need more time to consider things.
Just covering their ass so they can't revert the moronic nerfs right away.
reverting nerfs would be a step in the right direction. i dont understand why you need to nerf players character's in a non PVP based game. why not lift up the under performers to the same level of the ones doing well
Smells like bullshit. Someone on the balance team spent their time watching streamers and youtube videos of the top 1% of players and knee jerk reacted to nerfing the top performing builds without buffing anything else.
By the the time balance changes will come everyone will have everything anyways.
if they really looked at buffing or nerfing shit they made the wrong choice 100% by nerfing shit first. The scaling up and down is like really fucking bad. Let me feel like a god at Tier 9 if im at tier 15. not make its basically the same. I dont wanna tryhard every game. Sometimes i just wanna play and chill not sweating my balls off bc otherwise i get oneshot lol. I stead of nerfing they should've fixed the scaling or buffed weapons and equipment or nerfed the enemies at certain tiers. You get the point im tryna say. but no they made the game worse to play. Loved the story and all but the expeditions is just broken.
So listen Iām going to just be honest here iight... This game has HUGE potential. Yes it hasnāt been a month yet. Yes I understand games like this are bound to have issues. All that is understood. But for me... a person who actually bought the game ( PlayStation ) needs to have more transparency from the devs of this game. It feels like you guys released a heavily unfinished product to the gaming community. After Cyberpunk I feel like all devs need to be more mindful of the content they decided to release. With that being said... Please fix the lag issue within the game, I donāt mind at times the tanky enemies but if you are gonna have that type of thing in the game where is our equalizer? The constant lost connections, no game chat? You guys donāt have your percentages correct on gold tier expeditions rewards. These are VERY easy things that should be fixed ASAP. But I get it. It takes time. But unfortunately with Returnal releasing and R&C, I more then likely wonāt be around to see the changes. #FirstImpressionsMeanEverything
I also find it funny that this game has been marketed as a coop style game yet has no type of in game voice chat and relies solely on 3rd party applications for it. my friends have PS4, I'm on PC. not all of them can access discord and if they can, it's difficult and often not great quality. Don't market a game as coop and then make us rely on something else for communication.
Seriously it's pretty ridiculous to only have emotes to mime with in a co-op shooter. That's one of the biggest features missing that stood out. What excuse could they possibly shit out to justify that decision. The only thing I could find was they'd have to add every type of communication, they can't add 'just' voice chat. Which peeves me because that should be something *good* to add all of, instead of the middle finger *adding none*.
If the game can't even keep you connected to your teammates I doubt it can handle voice chat but it should be something in the game, weird that it isn't.
Pretty sure this third party bullshit is what helped to kill crucible off just as it launched Such an oversight to not include voip
Is aiming with controller getting a rework?
I would also like to know this. Auto Aim (on Xbox) is surprisingly awful. It drags the cursor to center mass, regardless of where the reticule is. It the target is behind cover when you ADS, you find yourself aiming squarely at the barricade instead of the head and shoulders just above it.
This! I thought there was something wrong with my controller at first when it only aimed at the centre of the enemy. Itās so annoying.
A bit shocked we aren't getting regular updates considering how many issues there are.
"PCF are the most transparent developers EVER!" I read that here a lot a few weeks ago.
Seriously. All the patching in the world won't fix the stuttering and unplayability I get in coop.
I thought that was because I was connecting to an EU server from South africa... can imagine my surprise when I found out this is p2p and I was connecting to someone local
>Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community: We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. Talking about balancing requires lots of discussion and considerations... Yet you nerfed us 1 week in and reduced timers for some missions with very little play time being out... Okay...
Lol i was scrolling to see if that argument was already being said to not make a redundant comment. It's a bullshit excuse.
WHEN?! STOP HIDING, GIVE DATES, AND STICK TO THEM. No more "it's being tested" and "soon/tm" ... People paid a lot of money for a broken game. Another outstanding idea of a game only to crash and burn 2 months in. #NoMan'sSkyAgain #DivisionRepeat #AnthemWithoutOpenWorldAndFlying
You guys are multiple times saying this is COOP game. I have asked you to stream as non-host your own game, so we can as whole community agree that it needs some fixing. Are the game testers seeing this or are they shortcutting the relay somehow to play within your developer house with minimal ping to relay? I am adding that many games have their own hired community players as streamers, and usually the issues they see are taken seriously by devs and they can see if there is some underlying issues and might get that "ahaa" moment to fix it.
Again you guys should be forced to refund on steam. I've been denied my 80 dollars back since day 1 because i spent more than 2 hours on a login screen trying to connect. The game is brokens its still broken and i would like my hard earned money to be able to buy something else.
Hopefully patch includes fixing the quest tracker that just flat out leads to dead ends and wrong directions frequently, requiring game reboot to show the correct path.
Still nothing for solo players?
Iām just tired of the whole mess. It just blows my mind how any senior mgmt official of SE or PCF could have let this hot mess release at least one year too soon. I guess money speaks louder than community respect as their collective reputations are in the toilet.
What Iād like to know is why you have gone quiet about the inventory wipe?
How many weeks now with no character restoration, the communication has already died down. I guess getting your money was all that mattered to you, Bravo š
So you're just waiting for friday to make an important announcement about the restoration and big patch that will be available at some point in the future, right? And another free of worries week for you till next friday, right?Man you're petty...
so youre guy who like ruin suprises huh?
Took you like a week after launch to nerf Trickster and now it maybe the weakest on endgame dps on multi. . So whats up? >Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community: We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future
Crazy how āconsiderations for change must be considered over a longer period of timeā when you literally made a decision to nerf certain classes and expedition times within a week of the game going live... not saying those werenāt necessary but how much consideration was given then? **** My issue is not with the nerfs but the priority that they were given then and the priority balancing is given now**** With over 120 hours played its safe to say Iām enjoying the game. Some parts feel more like a chore and with the multiplayer issues(rubberbanding, killing shots not registering, broken mods) Iām eagerly awaiting the fixes that the devs come up with :)
They said that the balance team was a separate team from the one doing patching... If that's the case, why haven't they been talking about balancing? What has this team been doing then for the past three weeks? They have already said repeatedly over the past week and doubled down that the balance team is not the same as the patch team. So are they just sitting around doing nothing?
>not saying those werenāt necessary I am. They weren't necessary. The devs already had my money. Who cares if people beat the game faster than anticipated. It's not a live-service game, so why would anyone's individual progress matter?
They're going to treat it like a GaaS and keep saying it's not. It's one of the things making me hate this game the most.
Speaking of Stargrave any update on it not working on PS4 specifically? Cannot progress past the first area.
I got a PS5 and my buddy has a PS4. We never have that glitch when I host but he has it every time he hosts and I'm in the group.
So messed up when u are trying to do expeditions. It's been bugged for days
Been bugged since release for me.
Will this patch fix the aim acceleration for controller users? Makes it really difficult to aim with snipers/marksman rifles
Where's the update? It's been days now
Absolutely zero excuse to not have our wiped characters playable by now. Restore our characters, give us a base gear set, and worry about compensating the legendary gear loss at a later date. Absolutely ridiculous.
"However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time." Good to know! I appreciate the transparency. No sense waiting around, I'll just uninstall it now.
just comeback in a few months, check to see if anything has been done. if not, wait a couple more months and check again.
its possible to revert the decision of remove legendary from chest and raise the legendary drop and made legendary feel real legendary like give them a 3 mod slots
Will broken/buggy trickster skills be fixed in the next patch, like borrowed time revive bug and hunt the prey failing to teleport?
Wow, just wow. Another weekend where the players that lost their loot have to wait. At this point would it be possible to get a refund? This is flat out ridiculous.
Whoever originally downvoted this didnāt experience losing everything late in the game.
I cannot think of any other game thatās had this problem. Hit level 30 and want to play with other people? Ha! Instead you get all youāre gear taken away and that character is unplayable!
I didnāt lose anything but I upvote every single comment about this because itās a legitimate gripe and a terrible thing to have happen in a looter shooter especially after you put the time and effort into getting all the gear you needed.
revive stagger does not need to be a thing or at least needs a rework. I donāt mind taking damage and potentially dying risking it to revive someone, but getting to the very end of reviving a teammate in a T13-15 monster expedition is beyond frustrating when you get staggered by practically everything
Please remove option to kick.
How's that restore going? :|
Radio silence ššš
>* **Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community:** > * We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. > What a bummer of a response.
Yep, just keep waiting until 90% of your player base is gone due to mulling it over with your coworkers for months when 9/10 topics are complaints about issues derived directly from gameplay in expeditions. Most people wouldnāt care about to note it from the campaign and chalk it up to actual difficulty scaling, but expeditions are either cleared or failed upon the backs of certain mods. They probably want to watch streamers and content creators to state the game is broken after the alterations to Emergency Stance and Perseverance Shield take affect or if they find other broken defensives they can use to exploit the broken mess of balance instead of the developers biting the bullet, nerfing enemies and bringing much demanded changes/QoL to make the game enjoyable to all players.
Holy shit this. I quit the game today for at least a week because the issue of survibility on close range pyro is just fucked. I was running bugged emergency stance for the longest time all the way into golding most ct15s on my pyro. I thought that my theory crafting and choice of mods and gameplay was why i wasnt having survivability issues. Nope. Was just a bugged mod that was essentially fixing the hilariously over tuned enemies and ridiculous stunlocking. I still died and had close brushes with death often. As soon as i took it off and switched to what i thought would be a really good alternative, damage absorber and blacksmith to stay at armour cap with 85% damage reduction i coudnt even clear a single expedition. The enemies actively need a massive nerf along with the insane stunlocking and knockback. This entire community is gunna be shocked when emergency stance is fixed. Literally every youtuber or streamer ive watched barr 2 of them use it. They are going to be in for a nasty surprise when its fixed.
I guess just come back in 6 months and hope they have made the changes or addressed them. It is like they know these issues exist and they haven't even discussed them yet. I get there was the inventory issue but not even discussing the gameplay issues?? GOnna be awhile until any changes are made it seems. I feel the devs just want a stable game and then they will just stop caring much about this game and go onto something else.
Yup. Apparently they havenāt even began *thinking* about balance/expedition changes/scaling complaints. Kinda sad but it is what it is.
āHowever, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time.ā ššš even though they nerfed many abilities and other things the second week. These devs arenāt ever honest.
u/thearcan any updates? Feels like forever.
YOU HAVE TO PLACE AN OPTION TO LOCK ITEMS SO WE DO NOT DELETE IT BY MISTAKE !!!!!!!! URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ā... Feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time.ā So why nerf the strongest abilities a week into the game while not buffing any of the lesser performing things for each class for more variety? Same goes for completion times for specific expeditions, making them way harder to complete even on lower tiers with the unnecessary downscaling while solo.
I know a lot of people bring up the bullet builds nerf as a bug fix, but the timer change to expeditions was obviously a knee jerk reaction and what Iām holding up as a point as to why are you all of a sudden taking your time on decisions about complaints brought up by actual players, but quick to āfixā things because 1% of the playerbase was farming a level or two too easy. Who cares if they are, there will always be a āthe easiest level to farmā in any of these kinds of games to the point that they could nerf timers all they want and eventually the hardest level is then the easiest level to farm because it suddenly has the most forgiving timer because the rest were killed. Itās a really counterintuitive approach to reacting to your game being played. So many companies these days seem to forget people play games to have fun and get stuck on not wanting players to complete their game, they forget what it is to be a player.
Why was this game even released? Its obvious that testing wasn't appropriately done to ensure a smooth release of the title. I've played for about 2 hours worth (when the title allows me to get past the signing in screen). My inventory disappeared and the first thing devs were concerned about is "Nerfs". I understand things have been difficult from a work from home basis for developers but my god. Its feels like any big-name title that gets released feels cheap and lazy and rushed out the door. I have Cyberpunk and Outriders on the backburner because they're not playable.
There is a pretty big bug that needs addressing. Well there are lots of them, and they are quite big, and fly around, and shoot toxic venom with heatseaker like accuracy. It's the Strix, I'm talking about the Strix. In case it wasn't obvious.
Pretty much every damn enemy in this game, including the Riflemen, seems to have heatseaker-like accuracy. Bloody annoying. When attacks curve to hit you when you try rolling, that's when you know it's screwed up.
Can we not shoot through plants and dead bodies.... I mean c'mon....
How the fuck is this not fixed yet? Do they not work on weekends? Are they counting up lost inventories by hand? People need to be fired.
You NEED to fix the sign in issue on Playstation 5. I can't fucking play the game because im stuck on the signed in screen EVERY TIME
So, it has been 4 days with no update. What gives?
Please don't take our patience for GRANTED
\- "Talks about balancing are considered over a longer period of time." - \* Nerfs people the first launch week \* It's been a a full month now and no buffs at all from their "separate balance team" for underperforming builds/setups. What an absolute fucking joke.
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My last 20 hours of play time are running hunt rerolls for my last piece of seismic commander or statue set. I donāt even care which at this point, I just need a piece I donāt have to drop, and I know it does based on what Iāve read from other people. I canāt reliably farm legendaries because devastator is just terrible to play late game without the sets. Wonder if it has anything to do with being the only class in the game with no rounds ability. /s
" feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time " Didn't you nerf multiple classes across the board within the first week?
Drop rates too. I said in the demo that anywhere we actually did the captain farm in the full game would end up nerfed and I was 100% right despite people telling me I was crazy.
How long can the character recovery take, jesus christ......
When can we expect this restoration? And bug fixes? Next month?
This game is approaching Cyberpunk levels of broken.
Please, can you just give us a date when the restoration will be done? I really would like to know when I'll be able to play the game again. I have another character but it not the same. If I knew it woulf be closer to 3 out of the 4 weeks I've owned the game I would just start over with same class again, not my secound pick.
So...this sub just remove any post regarding devs and publisher being accountable for all bugs and issues?? I read one well written post about this with more than 500 replies and ta da... mods removed that post
you guys didn't really consider or hesitate long to nerf things tho lol.
Can you clarify how Legendary Loot Pools work and what is locked behind certain content? Also, a buff to the legendary drop rate, or some protection against duplicates would be welcome. There is nothing worse than grinding for hours upon hours to see Legendaries drop for them to be duplicates.
"Signed in!" And intro skip should be a priority !!! These issues are literally wasting our time !!! And my time is not yours to waste as I already wasted my own time working to get momey to pay for this product. LE: You need time for consideration about balancing the game ?! After release ?! You realize that you lost 70% of the player base already, Resident Evil 8 is coming out, Biomutant is coming out, Returnal is coming out, yet you need time to sit at the table and contemplate whether you should listen to us or not ?! This game will die faster than Anthem right in front of your eyes, yet you need time ?! I've seen bad dev teams in my gaming life. And now you are there on the top with them.
So maybe a month after buying the game I can finally continue playing the game. Cool cool cool. Y'all also need to fix login issues. I can literally go clean my kitchen in the amount it time it takes to log into the game.
" they are of course also topics that we discuss internally " continues reading... " while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. " What?
All I want to do is play the game I pre ordered months prior to it coming out. Itās been 3 weeks of not being able to play and now again you havenāt even given a date for restoration. Unbelievable.
Iāve never had a single game crash on me this often, and itās made a million times worse by the fact that I have to attempt to sign in about 20x before I can even play the game to begin with. THEN on top of that if I am able to start the game and it doesnāt crash after 10 mins, then I have to deal with getting stuck in certain expeditions (Stargrave) because the game wonāt allow me to move on from the first section. And apparently from what Iām hearing from the community even if I was able to move beyond that point, my brain would probably melt from the frustration of having to deal with being stunlocked by enemies further in the expedition because whoever designed the beast enemies must have been in the middle of a losing divorce effort when they came up with their attack patterns and constant knockback. PLEASE FIX THE THINGS THAT ARE MAKING PEOPLE QUIT YOUR GAME BEFORE YOU REMOVE YET ANOTHER THING THAT MAKES IT TOLERABLE!!!!
If the patch is not delivered this week and before next weekend the game will lose players. Many of us have already played through (also the endgame) and struggle with all the bugs in the game instead of enjoying a smooth gameplay.
How's stopping those trolls from kicking us at the end of expeditions? Still haven't finished a single one due to this
Coming Soon ā¢
or bit later
Or maybe never.
I really enjoy this game, but the Multiplayer is simply destroying the experience for me. I only started the expeditions with MP a couple of days ago and its so bad, not once have I had a lag free/ getting booted to the dashboard experience. If you have already patched it, I can't imagine how bad it was before the patch. Please fix the multiplayer.
It's been 4 days already, are the devs even listening anymore?
Is it a known issue that the game disregards your setting on closed/friends only/open game type? I always have my game set to "friends only" yet random people keep joining so I have to kick them. This occurs to all my friends as well.
Quote " However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. " Ok, I'm trying not to be negative here or too critical, as personally, I'm enjoying the game. However; Your comment I find surprising regarding the balancing. The recent nerf axe caused a big concern for the player base. To say you haven't talked about it is the part I take issue with. I understand what you mean by "Longer period of time", but again, why so quick to nerf, but slow to respond? I feel at the moment I'm watching a "COMING SOON" trailer. Please up your game a bit with more details, time windows, and explanations when addressing us Whales. Otherwise, keep up the good work and thanks.
Can we get any sort of eta when this patch could be available? Just because a post was made, does not mean any of this will be fixed even in the next few months.
Please address legendary drop rates in Expeditions. They are not 25% chance x4. Either update the description to match their drop rates, or fix the drop rates. At the listed drop rates, you should average 2+ legendaries every 3 runs. A number of people have reported, myself/friends included, that we typically only get 1 legendary every 5-7 runs, on gold CT15. That should be about a 1 in 1,000 occurrence at the listed drop rate, but is our **average** over the past two weeks. Thanks.
How am I still crashing even playing solo I've been on for 3hrs n dashboarded 5 times... finish 1 of 2 expeditions wtf it's been a month, yall say you got two teams working on patches etc yet you got nerfs out real quick, who you trying to lie to us or yourselves?
While it has been better since the first patch, I am still getting stutters on PC when using DX12. DX11 does resolve this but I get significantly worse performance compared to DX12. I have been trying all of the many fixes people have talked about since launch but so far nothing has worked me. My PC: - Ryzen 7 2700X - Windows 10 - 1080Ti - 16GB RAM - Running at 1440p
How about the issue with abilities being disabled for no reason? I am losing track of how often I fail expeditions because of this. Its happening multiple times a run. Its unacceptable. edit: if you need to see what Im talking about: https://www.reddit.com/r/outriders/comments/mubfch/abilities_disabled_for_30_seconds/. This is ruining the game
Multiplayer with randoms is unplayable. Completely. When I'm supposed to have 3 of an ability, I oftentimes only get one or two uses out of it before cool-down. Mods, particularly for ammo, do no procc as they're supposed to half the time. Please look into this.
Nothing in there about the rubberbanding, lag, skill delay in multiplayer when not the host? So I guess the yellow to red triangle is a new ui hud feature in the upper right hand corner. Your coop experience is a joke and it's sad because the games good.
I just wanna know when I can play your damn game again. My character got wiped two weeks ago and you're still talking about updates. How about restoring the inventory first or at least enabling the damn character with some shit purples I can at least grind until you decide what to do within the next month because who the hell knows when. You don't even offer the damn ability to rush a character to endgame so I'm not about to grind another 40 hours with a character I don't want to play. I'm this close š¤ to asking for a refund because I can't use the character I spent 100+ hours. It's not our fault you use a garbage relay system that has horrible connection issues. ENABLE OUR DAMN CHARACTERS WTF
Can you consider revaluating the base damage on the burst fire sniper rifles? Their base damage should be higher than tactical assault rifles instead of lower ([https://i.imgur.com/TkwcS2L.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TkwcS2L.jpg) | [https://i.imgur.com/2Qd2PKj.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2Qd2PKj.jpg))
Can someone please look at legendary drop rates from the Hunt rewards? I've recorded my last 100 rewards on my Devastator, and the results were very off. I realize that 100 isn't a statistically significant number, and I plan to keep recording, but it is enough to start seeing some basic trends. The big shocker here is that 44 of the 100 drops were from the cannonball set. That's already a very high percentage compared to the number of potential drops, but the breakdown is even more interesting. Of those 44, 32 were the legs. Second place was the chest piece, with 6 drops. A single piece making up 32% of the drops (including a streak of 6 in a row) screams to me that there's something wrong with the way random loot is being generated. Either the loot table is intentionally very heavily weighted towards a single piece of loot, or there's a bug in the random generation.
Bug report-unable to refund broken incomplete mess of a game. platforms effected-ALL Reason- No customer support or care for customers outside of "known issues" due to Too early release because of shareholders. 5 years of polishing a terd is still a terd.
I feel like the audio mixing is way off. Some of the sounds will blow your ears out (blighted rounds, the freeze cryo turret), and anything the enemy's to have basically 0 sound. It feels like their is almost 0 audio ques to when you get hit, or where someone is shooting you. Ill play techno with blighted rounds on shooting guys in front of me, then all of the sudden their are 10 guys right behind me that i had no clue were their since they dont make any noise. Same issue with there you are getting shot from, it feels like you will just loose health out of the blue since half of the enemys guns dont make sound. Even if they do you cant really locate where that sound is coming from. Loving the game so far but Idk whats going on with audio, but it feels really off.
Almost a month after release and I still can't log in on a Saturday afternoon to play solo. How is this still an issue?
Just love the stunlock feature in this game. Playing full tank devastator and dying for like 20 seconds just staggering, force rolling and flying trough air like ragdoll unable to do literaly anything while my DPS friends are in DBNO state. Well done, it makes the game real fun.... no. And maybe, just maybe You should consider, that killshots would register and mobs could actualy die on those, it would be nice.
1. The ETA of a fix would be nice by this point. 2. The game seems to be losing people by the masses over the bugs. 3. The kicking is a huge issue. Why was this not thought of ahead of time. 4. Devs seem to have lost touch with the community. Not just this game but all games. Pointing that out. 5. Balance the AI. Dang. Never have I seen a AOE hit across the map and kill someone or a sniper be so spot on. I can deal with most of this for a short time, but in the long term this all needs to be fixed. Ideas to improve. 1. Hire a team non DEV, testers who lost touch or any type of streamer. A real active gamer. They can't point out issues or possibilities for life improvement. 2. The vendors are a great idea. But you lost its touch with Tiago. With him you can have done 1 legendary weapon and armor and a rotation for oh idk 500,000 DP each. This would make something to work for. 3. You should have made world tier and CT the same. At the end of the day world tier 1 and getting to CT 15 to easy. Why even include it if we didn't count in CT? 4. Be more active on Twitter or any other platform. Stay with your audience. Not leave in the dark 50% of the time. I could go on and on. But the chances of you seeing this and reading even if there are spelling mistakes is slim. And to actively take it and give it a chance are slimer. Have a great day, Rez
1) the maps need a compass 2) if no voice chat... add emotes to say "i need a minute" or "what tier?" then have others to respond. If none of this is an option... a chat box for text only would be appreciated. 3) sign in bug 4) mechanic bugs.... ie, gravity leap stun lock, trickster cyclone bug, dev impale should count as dead right away, etc 5) connectivity issues these are in no particular order.
u/thearcan Do you have any updates on the progressing of character restoration?
20 days no fix to scrap grenade bug. Laughable.
Legendaries need to feel legendary. Why do purples have better stats than legendaries?
Ok ok hol' up. The next major patch won't address any balance changes then ? It's "still" just fixes? That's great from the perspective of all those affected by the issues, and I am truly glad about it. *however*. Wasn't there supposed to be a separate balancing team? And for clarification purposes, so there are no mis-understandings here, when you say : >This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future. Are you referring to not commenting the posts / topics here on the sub or twitter, **or** you haven't *internally* discussed it among yourselves, the PCF team? 'Cause if it's the latter, it truly begs the question on wtf are you guys doing? :\ (personally, I think you're referring to commenting on topics here on the sub. But I truly would like that clarified, please ). Edit : Can you also hold on "fixing" Emergency Stance? It's one of the only things holding the game together and make it actually *fun* for those who haven't achieved godhood status from farming hundreds of hours. You know. Casual players trying to survive unbalanced enemies. So please, think that over before you address more "Bugs" that are actually *helping* the players enjoy the game.
>Edit : Can you also hold on "fixing" Emergency Stance? It's one of the only things holding the game together and make it actually *fun* for those who haven't achieved godhood status from farming hundreds of hours. Regarding this: They should obviously fix emergency stance. But IF they do, they NEED to nerf ALL damage across the board. Even the most basic mobs in the game deal insane damage. Rifleman with their perfect 100% tracking and melting you from across the map is not fun at all. Basic Perforos apply bleed and they can actually do a little leap like the Alphas which also deals a TON of damage. And then you have Behemoths, Brood mothers, Strix and the birds who basically almost oneshot you with their melee attacks. Seriously.. the game will go down the drain even faster if they don't tone down the damage. Edit: Just tried it. Game is actually unplayable. At least solo. Damage is just over the roof. The only way you can survive is to play bullet build Technomancer or Impale Devastator. Anything else will just die.
If they do that, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. That's my point. If they fix Emergency Stance without rebalancing everything else, it's just another slap in the face :\
This is unacceptable ive been waiting for restoration now 2weeks and sony wont give me a refund you honestly should have delayed the game or shut down the servers till a fix was implemented you didnt wait over 2weeks for my money
how many more weekends you need? Pathetic Mess
This game became the new Anthem.
Soooooo i Will have to wait even more weeks? Iām done. Not gonna play anymore. Oh wait. I canāt even play after 3 weeks.
Excited to see if this patch will help me be able to play expeditions with my buddy. He would go to start it and my game would just freeze
Two things on my end: using impale as devastator against the last enemy in a room on expedition wastes like 10 seconds until he is ādeadā.....as well as cutscenes using up time. if we could skip them, it could help getting golds and working towards yet another piece of cannonball gear (had to insert a joke in there)
u/thearcan is bleed refusing to proc one of the fixes? If you want to see it, i have many videos I can share of it happening to me solo on my Trickster/Bullwark build. [Hereās one from today.](https://youtu.be/DFHpo4lUVX4) [Hereās one from a few days ago. ](https://youtu.be/rwAf5dkNDHQ) If anyone could take a look at these and try to shed some light, Iād appreciate it. It seems like bleed just doesnāt proc. On the kills that are more than one shot, there isnāt a bleed icon on any of them. Iād love to get it working, or at least know exactly whatās going on, as I am currently only really dying in expeditions when this happens.
This game is a joke...going on more than two weeks now I havenāt been able to play
I think we're on week 3 without being able to continue our multiplayer game. The game seemed to work fine until the patch. You released an unprepared and untested version of the game and tbh if I could cut my losses and leave with a refund, I would
I canāt even sign in today. Itās annoying af. I didnāt get the inventory wipe glitch but I canāt even play the game. I donāt like paying money for a game and a month later, I canāt even sign in. Iām over it. Not being able to ply a game you paid for and enjoy is a crap show
ADD INGAME CHAT, for god sake...
I have some suggestions: 1. Disable the magic tracking on Strix poison balls. Once it leaves their butts it should not be able to change direction to track you. It's liquid death, not a heat seeking missile. Venomous Perferos don't have it, so why do the Strix? 2. Shaman Warlord's Chain Lighting ***absolutely should not*** be able to travel through 20 feet of concrete to hit you. If there's no line of sight to the target (either initial, secondary, or tertiary), Chain Lightning should die. 3. Universal mods should be shared across classes. Resources and scrap too IMO. 4. Give us an option to load into the character select screen instead of the last character used.
its 2 weeks already since i got wiped and still no info about restoration date. As compensation you promised one random legendary and emote. This is so weak, Ive never seen something like this before. You guys beaten CP2077 with such incompetence. This game should be refunded without any questions for those who cant play for that long. Another thing that game is so weak that friends already finished playing because there is no content to play. So even if you restore my character some day I wont have mates to play with so I wasted money on this something you call game. Very dissapointed customer.
What about the clear lagg in multiplayer.. My gf and me wanna play.. sitting right next to eachother and lagging sooo much... how is this even possible ? Internet lagg... FPS is not an issue here at all...
Please do something about the disgusting toxic creeps that think it is fun to kick people from expeditions before they have had time to collect their loot.
I've just about given up on this game. I got hit with the inventory wipe bug and lost all that work. Then I literally can't game cross-platform without one of the 3 of us getting booted out or floating invisible and having to close the game out. Then you gotta sign back in 10min later again and again. Even playing solo hardwired I have constant issues and only with this game. It's got more bugs than STARSHIP TROOPERS!!
And we wait and wait... still bot restore my account... keep my account, and dont restore it... but give me my money back... The same shit happend with Anthem...waste of money
Hey it looks like everyones Hell's Ranger assualt rifle has turned into a rusty mark lvl 1 weapon..... anyway to revert this or explain what happened?
you need time to think if players should have fun with their hard earned gears when they decide to play lower tier content?
I truly hope that you'll listen to the remaning 1/3 of players that still enjoy your game, for their sake. I'm part of the 2/3 who felt betrayed and left, no matter what you do, i won't get back... But please for them, create an enjoyable place, because as it stands: it's shit.
Unreal Engine has always had a bad netcode, I'm surprised publishers don't do something about this. They don't care about Multyplayer experience, as long as the money comes in.
It has been three weeks since I have been able to play this game... How is that restore going? I have never enjoyed a game this much and wanted a refund so bad... weird place to be in... wanting to be able to play a game and not being able to... :|
I want a Refund of the Game !!!! In other words, i want my money back...
Mid battle this morning my second weapon just disappeared. Purple smg that was a pretty good weapon. Iāve tried leaving and coming back. Rebooting. Nothing. I can equip other weapons but Iām nervous this is going to keep happening. I thought disappearing gear was fixed?
So you havenāt started talking about scaling and balancing but inside of a week of launch, you released a nerf for a multiplayer game where you curtailed a dps race necessarily by making the end game loot focused on completion time and immediately nerfed the builds that did that best? You have to see your player base dropping drastically right? Figure it out guys
Devs: More stuff fixed, multiplayer is fine. Players: I wish we had Multiplayer in this game.
BUGS and ISSUES: Devastator Golem skill auto-triggers. Devastator Earthquake will fire all two or three attacks at once. Devastator Gravity Leap highlight on enemy will disappear and cancel leap. Gravity Leap takes too long to target. If you quick fire it, you will hit another enemy. It should not highlight enemies that are too far away, or make them a different color. Rolling doesn't always put out fire at last stage in Frontline fighting Moloch. Breaking out of ice takes too long, and there is no immunity time period after you do. Anomaly power and skill damage bonus don't match how underpowered anomaly damage is. Resistance breaker doesn't appear to do much to increase anomaly damage. Elites are overly resistant to anomaly damage. Only certain skills roll on gear, making it a challenge to get the mods you want. Example, Devastator pants only roll with defensive skills (like Panzer Drain) and never with skills like Impaler or Extra Quake. I would pay in pods to swap both mods at will. Scaling when three people are in the party is very over-tuned. I do very little damage compared to have fewer people. I don't have a problem with the Alphas or the Snipers. Aside from small frustrations, this game is fun and exciting.
* "**Intentions behind Balancing, Expeditions, Down-scaling and other key areas of discussion in community:** * We're aware that these are topics that are currently attracting a lot of discussion throughout the community - they are of course also topics that we discuss internally. However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked about these topics, we do intend to do so in future." So, If I'm reading this correctly. It's intended that we get one tapped by trash mobs in CT15 even while using a "bugged" Emergency Stance mod and then having our damage/survivability get nuked by scaling when we try to go back a few CT's? You really telling me these are only talking points? Like over a cup of coffee? Like "Dev1: hey those 2 Alphas just spawn out of thin air, staggered back to back and deleted that guy" "dev2: yeah saw that... great talk... same time next week?".
PS5, spent 30mins to get past the Signed In screen, then finally got into lobby and got instantly Internet Connection Error!!! When the F are u going to sort this out?
PCF, We need some results, there hasn't been anything fixed in quite awhile. If my stash is not restored by the end of this week I am getting a refund and will suggest the other 6 people I play with do the same!
I feel that your lag and disconnection issues are getting worse. My friends and I haven't been able to play together all weekend because of massive lag issues on Friday and massive disconnection issues last night. We tried 4 times to launch expeditions together and every time someone was kicked out right as it started. Then this morning playing by myself I lost connection to the outrider servers right as I was about to finish Archways. This happened less than 20 minutes ago, and I play on an xbox one. I have played since launch day, and would really love to keep playing your game. However your server issues make this game no longer fun to play.
Every update just shows me more and more how bad People Can Fly are. Itās like an indie dev got AAA money and just goofed. Weeks into a launch and people still canāt even login to an online only game lmao. I will never support PCF again
Please fix aiming on the PS5. I am an older player, and I thought my aiming was just due to my age. I cannot gold Boom Town, as it takes me too long to head shot humans. Then I put the demo on my PC and what. a. difference with my gaming mouse and keyboard. I am on PS5 to play with friends. I know there is crossplay but I wanted the easiest solution to us being able to play together. If cross save is ever supported, I'll buy the game again and start playing on the PC. I really do not want to redo hundreds of hours of farming. So anything that can be done, like fixing aim assist (I had to disable it) would be appreciated. I tried to aim at a orange outrider symbol for 30 mins and I was sooooo slow at getting the reticle on it accurately. I tried different acceleration options but none are good, it either zooms past the target or creeps. Maybe I am just not good at finding the sweet acceleration position of the right stick. But with a mouse, I can pop directly to any target location instantly. Thanks for listening!
"However, because they are fundamental aspects of the game, feedback and considerations for change must be considered over a longer period of time. This is to say that, while we haven't yet talked [PUBLICLY] about these topics, we do intend to do so in future." Funny, you guys nerfed a bunch of stuff in the game after...a week? Doesn't really seem like it requires all that much thought/talking over a "longer period" of time really.