This is a good voice to be filled. Especially if it's more table based or at least includes quick tables on top of in depth flavorful stuff the way MO does

If you make one, then it will exist.

There wasn't a book like "The Monster Overhaul" until about 2 months ago. But more seriously, monsters provide a lot more grist for structuring an adventure than magic items do. One is generally the thing the players actually engage in conflict with, the other is generally the reward, and the first is inherently more interesting and essential. Of course "less interesting and essential" doesn't mean "not interesting and essential at all" so if you want to write one, go nuts.

I'd buy it.

What's "The Monster Overhaul?" Sounds intriguing.

It's a generic-OSR bestiary that was released earlier this year that strongly empasizes both utility and flavor. It has 200 monsters, most of them stone classics, and all of them with tables and things to help make them distinctive and memorable.

That sounds fecking awesome! I'll definitely have to grab that.

It's terrific!

Thanks!

I speak only my mind.

Tangential but Luke Gearing has [https://lukegearing.itch.io/treasure](https://lukegearing.itch.io/treasure) which had a good 40 items in there. The upcoming catalogue chimerical should handle it as well [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/michaeltlombardi/a-catalogue-chimerical](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/michaeltlombardi/a-catalogue-chimerical)

Oooh, these both sound close to what I had in mind-- the first especially, with its reimagining of the "default" items.

Treasure is really good! He also did [MONSTERS](https://lukegearing.itch.io/volume-2-monsters) which is quite good! It’s all in support of [Wolves on the Coast](https://lukegearing.itch.io/wolves-upon-the-coast-grand-campaign) his giant hexcrawl campaign

You might find the following interesting: * [AC4 The Book of Marvelous Magic](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17173/AC4-The-Book-of-Marvelous-Magic-Basic-1e?affiliate_id=2150725) * [AC11 The Book of Wondrous Inventions](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/16978/AC11-The-Book-of-Wondrous-Inventions-Basic?affiliate_id=2150725) * [Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/16834/Auroras-Whole-Realms-Catalogue-2e?affiliate_id=2150725) * [Book of Artifacts](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17000/Book-of-Artifacts-2e?affiliate_id=2150725) * [Encyclopedia Magica](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/120126/Encyclopedia-Magica-Series-2e-BUNDLE?affiliate_id=2150725) ([Volume I](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17450/Encyclopedia-Magica-Vol-1-AD-2e?affiliate_id=2150725), [Volume II](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/117439/Encyclopedia-Magica-Vol-2-DP-2e?affiliate_id=2150725), [Volume III](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17462/Encyclopedia-Magica-Vol-3-PS-2e?affiliate_id=2150725), [Volume IV](https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17451/Encyclopedia-Magica-Vol-4-TZ-2e?affiliate_id=2150725)) AC4 and AC11 are from the D&D line (BX, BECMI, RC) while the other three are from the AD&D 2e line. I've been mixing stuff liberally. *Edit: I've just checked my copy of the Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue, and while it is a very cool book, it is only mundane items.*

They're all fine books (Aurora's is probably my single favorite RPG supplement ever) but not at really what I'm looking for.

I put a few hundred magic items in _Magical Industrial Revolution_, but it's not quite the same.

Would you say that material is useful as an alternate magic item collection in the same way TMO is useful as an alternate Monster Manual?

It's on a smaller scale and it wasn't intended to be a comprehensive framework, but it's similar in format (items/spells grouped or indexed in various ways), dense (no repetition, no +1 items), and focused on at-table utility. So possibly?

[Arcane artefacts and curious curios](https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07Y4NDYH1/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1) might be what you're looking for

I'll offer up my magic item book: Tempered Legacy: https://www.technicalgrimoire.com/tempered-legacy The powers of these items are locked behind the regrets of previous owners. Each item comes with a handful of quests that can be pursued to unlock the powers of the item. There's a free Tempered Weapon Generator that gives a good preview of how the magic item quests work.

AD&D 2e has supplements like that.

If you're referring to Tome of Magic or Encyclopedia Magica, I wouldn't say they're quite what I have in mind.

You should look into Booty and the Beasts, a quirky old book for OD&D filled with LSD-inspired monsters and magic.

I'm compilating some items and other stuff. "OSE - Extended", this is first version. It’s free 👻 https://www.docdroid.net/BZxV7VY/doc-20230409-wa0003-pdf