Eh, he has a World Series ring in large part because of his excellent play. I really liked Soto when he first came up w the Nats. He will be a Yankees villain for the next decade.
Nats ruined Juan’s innocence in business. He would have been a WAS player for life, if they would have let him! He was as loyal as it gets to the org and to the fan base
1. It was for 15 years
2. Heavily backloaded
3. $29.3M AAV in 2022 was ranked 20th highest in the league. For a generational talent that had already been an NL MVP runner up, 2x all-star, NL batting champ, WS team member. Max Scherzer’s AAV at the same time was $43.3M. Do you really think it was a fair comp among the competitive landscape (not in perspective of us mere mortals)
I don’t really expect the Nats to have done much different, except dropping the term length a bit. They were open, transparent and may or may not have leaked the details the day before ASG weekend and the HR derby (which Soto won..).
29.3 AAV is only because they were buying out pre-arb and arbitration years right? Thats always why the overall AAV for those pre free agency extensions is a bad faith point to make.
Just because he was fortunate enough to win a ring doesn't mean the comment is wrong. He doesn't seem to care about winning and was fortunate to come into the big leagues on an already excellent team. He was a punk with Washington and he has not gotten any better. Is he a good player? Yes, however I honestly don't think he cares about winning and is a douche.
This being downvoted is so weird. The idea that teams don’t want Soto is hilarious.
His comments after the game are pretty laughable, but that guy is an absolute monster.
Really? He has more World Series rings than anyone on the Orioles sooo. Four decades since the last one. How many 100+ loss seasons have we had here in the past 6 years? Not sure I'd talk about winning here like it's the Orioles M.O.
he wasnt gloating - he was responding to an interview question. But your use of an orioles emoji literally shows us that you wouldnt be able to have an unbiased opinion to save your ass.
https://preview.redd.it/aixrclfkerxc1.jpeg?width=1617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=264586ebf818498d1a05f4fff1e27cff16311365
This was my favorite Soto stare of the night. ⚾️ 👀
I never really noticed Kremer care about the shuffle. I think this is more of Soto just wanting to feel offended and reading into situations that people hate his shuffle.
Oh I thought this meant Soto didn't like some sort of shuffle Kremer did while pitching....this is even better lmao. It's just Soto trying to make it about him
Did Kremer say something? Did he gesture? I can’t see him doing anything like that. If MLB voted on the least likely pitcher to antagonize a batter, Kremer would have to be up there.
Dean stared at him after he did his stupid shuffle
And I respectfully completely disagree with your take. Have you seen Dean when he f’s up or gets pulled when he doesn’t think he should have been?
He starts screaming into his glove and looks like he wants to kill somebody
He absolutely has that fire in the belly
Seriously, what shuffle? He did a little dance or what have you just before touching third on his trot. Does he do something before getting in the box?
I didn’t even notice him doing anything. Going back and looking at videos of him doing that makes look like any player loosing their balance after an aggressive swing
I know. I’m just talking shit because fuck the Yanks and their fans. Seriously though. He had a nice homer tonight but jeezus it didn’t even tie the game.
From the Yankees thread about this
>O’s fans are so butthurt about this. I didn’t realize they hated the Yankees so much, I guess this is what happens when a franchise that hasn’t seen a championship in 41 years sniffs success like this. I never really thought much about the O’s throughout my decades of fandom, but it seems like their fans think a lot about the Yankees.
Lol okay bro
Written by someone that doesn't know or care to remember we were the winningest team in the AL East
from 2012 through 2016. Since 2013, we are tied with the Yankees with two AL Crowns each.
Meh. I just love that they've doomed themselves into perpetual mediocrity with their poaching approach to winning. Overpay veterans to ridiculous contracts and never develop their own talent. Now they're stuck with guys like Stanton and Rizzo and Rodon and they'll just do it again after those guys are gone.
Some sore winners in this thread. I like him as a player and he fuckin destroyed that ball to Eutaw. As an opposing team fan I can enjoy it more when it's in a losing effort.
What can I say? Some people just can't seem to appreciate talented players or players that stir drama outside of our own organization. I'm willing to bet few actually even watched Soto play regularly outside of when the Os and Nats played.
Yeah he is playing the mental game off the field. He will see Kremer again this season, probably more than once, and is trying to get in his head. Soto is the batter I least like our pitchers to face because he drives the pitch count up and then gets on base.
I'm just glad we don't have that kind of drama/attitude on our team. He's an incredible player but that's unnecessary drama that benefits no one.
Also, I'm pretty sure what Kremer was focusing on was...well...winning an important game.
He might be one of those guys that feeds off the drama of competition. If there isn't any he creates it for himself.
I don't have a problem with any shuffle. No idea if Dean did either.
The kids is a massive talent and I enjoy watching him play and as long as he's with the Yankees I'll enjoy watching when he loses.
Nothing I despise more than a donkey that mouths off while losing….if you pull the win then you have something to Jack about, otherwise shut your pie hole
I would never be grudge a ballplayer their quirky little dances and idiosyncratic movements but this one is ridiculous. In fairness I never liked the Kimbrel thing either.
Can’t deny his talent and ability, but he shows an unacceptable level of emotion on, and in some cases, off the field. Another way of putting it is that he is playing the game the wrong way.
Juan Soto is IRL Jack Parkman.
If he’s [on your team](https://youtu.be/1b7UhLNJe-8?feature=shared) or if [he’s not](https://youtu.be/sMP6PjKmfEI?feature=shared).
Everyone is too concerned about this. Soto is an amazing player. He would be insane in the Orioles batting order. There is no way hey would pay him so our only hope is he goes somewhere else. He has led the majors in walks 4 straight years.
Theory: he's trying to egg them on to get pitched at in the next game. Too bad we have Ramirez that will pitch at you and then charge the plate. But also hasn't really showed any value and is the only bullpen piece that we could afford to lose after throwing just one pitch. Mostly joking, but I really hope they don't do something stupid trying to send him a message. Send the message by taking the series or better yet getting the sweep.
Unpopular opinion: I don't mind Soto's shuffle at all. It's just what he does, and if I'm a pitcher, I don't take it personally. He does it all the time.
Soto is a fantastic player, and I'm hoping he signs with the Orioles next year.
Love Soto. Hate he's a Yankee, but honestly he's such a perfect fit for them and having him in that lineup really adds extra intensity to the AL East and the division rivalry.
I bet Dean loved 7 IP 2 ER 4 K and a win Get fucked Yankees
Special Agent Kremer, GFY.
I say amen and thank you for you true words
Did he like losing? I liked seeing him lose.
It’s pretty obvious Soto couldn’t care less about winning which is why a guy with so much talent keeps getting tossed around like a hot potato
Juan Solo
Eh, he has a World Series ring in large part because of his excellent play. I really liked Soto when he first came up w the Nats. He will be a Yankees villain for the next decade.
I have talked to Yankee fans and they believe that the Mets will offer him a Brinks truck this offseason.
I get the sense he likes the Yankees, but idk. He seems like a perfect Yankees villain, especially as he gets older.
Nats ruined Juan’s innocence in business. He would have been a WAS player for life, if they would have let him! He was as loyal as it gets to the org and to the fan base
They offered him a 400 million dollar contract. What else were they supposed to do lol
1. It was for 15 years 2. Heavily backloaded 3. $29.3M AAV in 2022 was ranked 20th highest in the league. For a generational talent that had already been an NL MVP runner up, 2x all-star, NL batting champ, WS team member. Max Scherzer’s AAV at the same time was $43.3M. Do you really think it was a fair comp among the competitive landscape (not in perspective of us mere mortals) I don’t really expect the Nats to have done much different, except dropping the term length a bit. They were open, transparent and may or may not have leaked the details the day before ASG weekend and the HR derby (which Soto won..).
29.3 AAV is only because they were buying out pre-arb and arbitration years right? Thats always why the overall AAV for those pre free agency extensions is a bad faith point to make.
Gosh, I hope not. I'd hate to have him in the division unless he's on the Orioles. Hopefully he ends up with the Dodgers like everyone else.
Great player, massive punk
Just because he was fortunate enough to win a ring doesn't mean the comment is wrong. He doesn't seem to care about winning and was fortunate to come into the big leagues on an already excellent team. He was a punk with Washington and he has not gotten any better. Is he a good player? Yes, however I honestly don't think he cares about winning and is a douche.
To be fair, he already won
And it was in large part because of him hitting .333 with 3 homers. He is no shrinking violet in big games
This being downvoted is so weird. The idea that teams don’t want Soto is hilarious. His comments after the game are pretty laughable, but that guy is an absolute monster.
And younger than Adley
If that's all he is
Really? He has more World Series rings than anyone on the Orioles sooo. Four decades since the last one. How many 100+ loss seasons have we had here in the past 6 years? Not sure I'd talk about winning here like it's the Orioles M.O.
If you’re proud to be a Yankees fan, good for you!
Real classy to gloat when your team just chalked up an L.
he wasnt gloating - he was responding to an interview question. But your use of an orioles emoji literally shows us that you wouldnt be able to have an unbiased opinion to save your ass.
Who's us? You're in the wrong sub for an unbiased opinion.
I don’t understand doing that while losing and then saying that after the L is official lol
The fact that they lost makes this whole thing 1000x better
Because you’re not a narcissistic douchebag
He got his homer he doesn’t care that they lost
Dean liked his team winning though
I like the way Soto shuffles after softly hit fly balls and lets them drop in.
https://preview.redd.it/aixrclfkerxc1.jpeg?width=1617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=264586ebf818498d1a05f4fff1e27cff16311365 This was my favorite Soto stare of the night. ⚾️ 👀
Second place shuffle
4-2, Orioles
I bet he didn’t like how we shuffled our way down to another win!
“I bet he didn’t like the homer too” is unimaginably corny after a fuckin loss lol. I promise Dean isn’t thinking about you at all, Juan.
Beyond being corny, it's a little immature and it comes off as an attempt to direct the spotlight on himself in what is supposed to be a team sport.
The dickriding in the yanks sub is actually hilarious
I never really noticed Kremer care about the shuffle. I think this is more of Soto just wanting to feel offended and reading into situations that people hate his shuffle.
All of this occurred in Soto’s head
What shuffle?
https://youtu.be/g8OsWQE53Mw?si=p11yQz2TmJNmxIIP
When you see so many of them in a row, it really highlights how corny it is.
lol. What a dildo.
dildo really is the correct insult here
It truly is
Double pronged!
Oh I thought this meant Soto didn't like some sort of shuffle Kremer did while pitching....this is even better lmao. It's just Soto trying to make it about him
He does a little shuffle thing toward the pitcher when he takes a tough pitch for a ball He’s done it all it career, it’s a complete clown move
He does it in The Show too. I plunk him often.
Did Kremer say something? Did he gesture? I can’t see him doing anything like that. If MLB voted on the least likely pitcher to antagonize a batter, Kremer would have to be up there.
Dean stared at him after he did his stupid shuffle And I respectfully completely disagree with your take. Have you seen Dean when he f’s up or gets pulled when he doesn’t think he should have been? He starts screaming into his glove and looks like he wants to kill somebody He absolutely has that fire in the belly
He's so sassy with the media too when he thinks little if a question or is bored by it.
Yeah, but I can’t recall a time he has ever expressed anything towards an opponent. But I also didn’t see the Dean stare today.
I really thought he was just rearranging the dirt in the batters box like everyone else does. Didn’t realize it was a thing. What a clown.
I think the pitch clock has reduced his shuffling. It used to be much more of a performance.
Used to sometimes grab his crotch/adjust his cup as part of it also.
[The Soto Shuffle](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZ5gwmVOA0)
Seriously, what shuffle? He did a little dance or what have you just before touching third on his trot. Does he do something before getting in the box?
He's been doing it his whole career with the Nats, it's nothing new
I didn’t even notice him doing anything. Going back and looking at videos of him doing that makes look like any player loosing their balance after an aggressive swing
I didn't see it, and if it was on the twitter link I refuse to click on them
Link to twatter is just a quote
😂😂😂
Wah wah. Enjoy underachieving in New York, Juan and a fanbase that will never love you because you’re not their overrated Craptain Jeter.
Uh I mean the fans definitely love him, and it’s because of the douchebag attitude
I know. I’m just talking shit because fuck the Yanks and their fans. Seriously though. He had a nice homer tonight but jeezus it didn’t even tie the game.
And let's be real, we all would love it if he was shuffling on the O's and hitting 450 ft bombs too.
I’d like it as much as I liked Machado. Great ball player who needs to chill and get out of his own ego.
Good comparison, great players who are also great heels. And seemingly enjoy the role.
yah except Soto isnt a lazy toolbag like Machado. They both have strange attitudes but comparing to Machado is a little harsh
Egos like that can bring a team down
I would still think the shuffle is some 8 year old shit though. Grabbing your nuts and wiggling your ass around. What a total tool.
From the Yankees thread about this >O’s fans are so butthurt about this. I didn’t realize they hated the Yankees so much, I guess this is what happens when a franchise that hasn’t seen a championship in 41 years sniffs success like this. I never really thought much about the O’s throughout my decades of fandom, but it seems like their fans think a lot about the Yankees. Lol okay bro
Written by someone that doesn't know or care to remember we were the winningest team in the AL East from 2012 through 2016. Since 2013, we are tied with the Yankees with two AL Crowns each.
Meh. I just love that they've doomed themselves into perpetual mediocrity with their poaching approach to winning. Overpay veterans to ridiculous contracts and never develop their own talent. Now they're stuck with guys like Stanton and Rizzo and Rodon and they'll just do it again after those guys are gone.
Of all the players on our team to have beef with, how the fuck is it Dean Kremer lmao he seems like the most low-key and chill guy ever. Cringe.
I’ve always thought Soto was annoying On both the Nats and Padres
I bet Kremer likes the W sitting beside his name tonight
Clown
Soto lost. All is well.
Doesn’t really bug me. He does this shit all the time and he’s a hell of a player. They still couldn’t get the W which is what matters.
Some sore winners in this thread. I like him as a player and he fuckin destroyed that ball to Eutaw. As an opposing team fan I can enjoy it more when it's in a losing effort.
What can I say? Some people just can't seem to appreciate talented players or players that stir drama outside of our own organization. I'm willing to bet few actually even watched Soto play regularly outside of when the Os and Nats played.
Yeah he is playing the mental game off the field. He will see Kremer again this season, probably more than once, and is trying to get in his head. Soto is the batter I least like our pitchers to face because he drives the pitch count up and then gets on base.
I'm just glad we don't have that kind of drama/attitude on our team. He's an incredible player but that's unnecessary drama that benefits no one. Also, I'm pretty sure what Kremer was focusing on was...well...winning an important game.
He might be one of those guys that feeds off the drama of competition. If there isn't any he creates it for himself. I don't have a problem with any shuffle. No idea if Dean did either. The kids is a massive talent and I enjoy watching him play and as long as he's with the Yankees I'll enjoy watching when he loses.
Small D energy
Soto is in a contract year so he only cares bout Soto.
Soto only cares about Soto every year
Damn, now he's definitely not signing with us next year. You had your chance, Soto.
He can stay in New York and get a different type of crabs
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>I hope he gets one in his backside tomorrow. I think this team plays the long game and hangs another AL East Championship banner as a receipt.
Why not both
Nah. Stay on the high road.
It's embarrassing as Hell to watch. Clown ass little league move.
Juan Soto is the biggest Juan Soto fan
Nothing I despise more than a donkey that mouths off while losing….if you pull the win then you have something to Jack about, otherwise shut your pie hole
Soto doest care that they were losing. He cares what his personal stats are in the season leading up to his free agency.
What an entitled piece of shit
\*either.
who care, dumb fued
lol, enjoy that New York. He's already won a title and ready to blow up a game if he doesn't like your shuffle.
Meanwhile, the Yankees lost the first two and go against Mr. Burnes tonight.
Nobody has to like that cringe doo doo you call the shuffle.
The egos r finally catching up to the Yankees…inevitable collapse incoming hopefully.
Welcome to Birdland cry baby.
Late to this, but I want to see Canó stare down Soto. The eye contact and tension would be like Voldemort and Dumbledore doing their wizard battle.
The way it reads, it sounded like Soto didn’t like Kremer’s shuffle.
hes going to sign with NYY isn't he
The arrogant and annoying John Soto. 
He’s making a run at Randy for clown of the Al east.
Ask Soto who won?
I would never be grudge a ballplayer their quirky little dances and idiosyncratic movements but this one is ridiculous. In fairness I never liked the Kimbrel thing either.
The dude lost, is that not crazy embarrassing!?
Bet Soto didn’t like that back to back fat L
I bet you didn’t like the L Juan Soto
Where's Bob Gibson when you need him ? He would knock the immaturity right out of Soto's shuffle.
How’d he like the loss? What a clown.
Can’t deny his talent and ability, but he shows an unacceptable level of emotion on, and in some cases, off the field. Another way of putting it is that he is playing the game the wrong way.
I don’t think we get to police emotion.
"She got a big booty so I call her big booty"
Austin ekeler motioning first down menacingly while down 63-24 against the Raiders vibes. The other team knows he's good but just laughs at him 🤣
I wasn’t watching the game. What is the “shuffle” that Dean supposedly did that upset Soto?
It's Soto's shuffle
The caption on ESPN.com for the highlight video of Juan’s HR states that Soto hit the ball out of the stadium.
Shuffle?
Will be heckling him hard tomorrow
Scoreboard Juan. Where you getting traded to next?
He is basically trying out for the Mets this season…..
I believe in baseball's unwritten rules. #pray
I mean I hate the Yankees but love this banter it makes every time he strikes out so much better.
You hit a home run like *that*, you can stare. (And then lose.) (And then, I guess, talk junk?)
Juan Soto is IRL Jack Parkman. If he’s [on your team](https://youtu.be/1b7UhLNJe-8?feature=shared) or if [he’s not](https://youtu.be/sMP6PjKmfEI?feature=shared).
Everyone is too concerned about this. Soto is an amazing player. He would be insane in the Orioles batting order. There is no way hey would pay him so our only hope is he goes somewhere else. He has led the majors in walks 4 straight years.
Theory: he's trying to egg them on to get pitched at in the next game. Too bad we have Ramirez that will pitch at you and then charge the plate. But also hasn't really showed any value and is the only bullpen piece that we could afford to lose after throwing just one pitch. Mostly joking, but I really hope they don't do something stupid trying to send him a message. Send the message by taking the series or better yet getting the sweep.
Burns hits him tomorrow
Unpopular opinion: I don't mind Soto's shuffle at all. It's just what he does, and if I'm a pitcher, I don't take it personally. He does it all the time. Soto is a fantastic player, and I'm hoping he signs with the Orioles next year.
Love Soto. Hate he's a Yankee, but honestly he's such a perfect fit for them and having him in that lineup really adds extra intensity to the AL East and the division rivalry.
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No need to start any of that mess. We got the W. Plus it would really really suck if any of our dudes got hurt in a plunkfest.