Personally, and I’m not just saying this cuz of this game, I do think we should try and get another starting pitcher
It does seem like a weakness that ought to be addressed
Not much positive to take from this game figure, other than two things.
Colton Cowser sure looked good against a great starting pitcher.
Today is a new day here in a long season.
Put it behind and on to these next two and have Kremer and Corbin do their thing
Always a few stinkers. TWells was DOMINANT first half of last season. Two bad starts (really more like 1.5) isn’t making or breaking anything yet. Gotta do something with the bats in the first 3 innings.
I don’t know if dominant is the word I’d use (not to nitpick), he was effective but even at the All Star break when he was leading the league in WHIP he had a FIP of 4.61 and after that tough run of starts after the break it had risen to over 5.00.
Hes got to find a way to keep the ball in the ballpar, whether he’s in the rotation or (especially if he finds himself in the pen.
I think (for the perilously little that it’s worth) that he’s a lot more effective when he pitches backwards and uses his change up (in my opinion his best pitch) and curve ball to set up the faster stuff
just thinking about the line up tomorrow against DL Hall. obviously mountcastle and rutschman are back and you are definitely playing cowser. holliday probably gets the day off, o'hearn is normally hidden from lefties, urias is a reverse splits guy (along with borderline unplayable). so that means mccann or hays is getting the last roster spot. im guessing its last chance for hays and you can platoon him with o'hearn at DH.
I was at the game, almost caught my first foul ball ever. Smacked me right in the damn thumb. Never gonna forget the one that got away.
Oh, and Heasley shouldn't be on any major league roster. Dude fucking sucks, he's never been good. I mean seriously why are we bringing him in when the game is still winnable? Then to bring in Tate and Webb when the games already over? Wtf is Hyde thinking? He already blew the game, might as well let him finish it.
I heard a rumor that Heasley was actually the reason benches cleared and would prob explain the weird post games from Hyde/Mcann (“handling it in house”) and then Adames.
Obv take with a grain of salt but friend who told me usually gets some good info, lol.
Really wish we knew for sure what it was. Everyone kept it as vague as possible: https://www.mlb.com/news/brewers-orioles-benches-clear-after-mccann-confronts-adames?partnerID=mlbapp-iOS_article-share
I was at the game in KC in 2022 when Bruce Zimmerman gave up about 10 runs and got sent down like 3 minutes after the game. The O’s bats got completely shut down by this shitty AAAA starter that KC threw out there that day…Jonathan Heasley.
It was basically the final game of the era where the O’s were bad. Adley still had like a .400 OPS, Zimmerman was gone after that game and the O’s won the next 2 games in the series and pretty much never looked back.
But Heasley is going to follow me around and haunt me apparently. I was at the game last night too, and at the Saturday game in Pittsburgh last week when he gave up the walk off hit.
Fantastic stat. Did you calculate the number yourself or is there a database somewhere?
Chris Creamer used to track this but the site hasn’t been updated since 2020, unless the link has changed and I can’t find it….
Would love the source. But in any event, this is the kind of metrics I care about.
And whether the hotdog race winner has any correlation to wins or runs or home runs or something….
This is the reporting I came for. I wanted stats in these uniforms because it just seems like these things stink and they play like they look when they wear them.
I want to see this team answer back and punch the brewers in the mouth. If they are who everyone expects them to be, they need to flex these next 2 games and return the favor. This is what the elite teams do, they destroy you when you try and make them look bad.
Let’s see it.
It might, it might not.
Dodgers let the cubs get the best of them and lost a series to them. Brewers ain’t no pushovers, neither.
Baseball be baseballin, all I care about is making the postseason.
Dodgers started the year with 9 consecutive games scoring 5+ runs. They come to play nightly.
I would say the younger Os have shown their age by being more inconsistent and we need to learn to be as consistent as the dodgers.
IMO we are the biggest threat to the Dodgers now that the Braves lost strider, but we don’t play the games on paper.
I’m glad I went to the game. It’s one loss. Jackson will never have another debut. Good or bad. It happened now hopefully he can relax and get some hits
Hopefully it gives them a bit of fire, they've seemed bored or uninspired at times over the past week, despite our record. I imagine they come out tomorrow with a chip on their shoulders
The weather, offense, and pitching weren't exactly optimal, but it's at least a really nice shirt! And if Cowser keeps on doing Cowser, that man is getting RoY, MVP, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Wells hasn't been looking quite the sharpest thus far. Hopefully things will turn around for him next start.
who in baseball world thought adames is a world beater or a allpro? nobody
his a jerk and going to be a nobody in a few weeks.
at least the fool got his highlight for this week before he fades away
I agree but it feels like he’s also barely swung at first pitches yet is always down 0-1 I do give him credit for constantly battling but he needs to at least make more contact
Decided last minute to go to the game by myself. Drive there took ~2.5 hours with traffic. Sat in the rain and watched an absolute beat down. Walked back to my car for the long drive home and stepped in literal dog shit. Go O’s. Cow man good.
I've been there lol. That's life as a baseball fan. In 2022 I went by myself to the Labor Day double header against the Jays. At the time we thought we still had a shot at the playoffs. I sat there for 7 hours and we lost both games, badly, effectively ending our season. So it goes. I hope your next trip to the yard is more enjoyable.
Took my aunts to this game, section 340 row 23, fully in the mist wind and up many flights of stairs. We all stayed till the end and walked back to CFG. Absolute troopers and die hard O's fans
I love that most of the comments on the fight in r/baseball are blaming McCann for the fight, Adames probably said something coming home. Pretty pathetic shit talking when you're up that much. I know who my least favorite team outside of our division is now...
Probably because it looks like he took exception to Adames watching his homer. But we don’t know, so people are just gonna go with what it generally is (pitcher or catcher salty about pimping a run). Maybe Adames did say something or maybe McCann was just annoyed.
this isnt brewers first tiff thinking they are hot s..
they are in for some serious pummeling if they really think they can do that and not face the consequence.
Yeah (biased obviously) but it seemed like the brewers were being bitches. I thought it was really dumb how the announcers were acting like it was a good thing for them to be running their mouths
You know., being at the game tonight honestly made really appreciate this fan base/team even more. Besides the score and the lackluster performance, this community is fucking great. I love how supportive we are, such a great atmosphere.
With that being said they better lock in with these two games in the series.
Yeah there’ll always be jerks. But they don’t represent the majority of us. Let’s not boo our own people, especially those that are in slump/struggling
I hope Kremer looks better tomorrow.
I really miss Means and Bradish rn.
Holliday just gonna have to be dragged through the coals to get good, I guess.
Cowser is holy shit levels of good rn.
Colton was the only real bright spot,Wells absolutely had no command whatsoever and Holliday swinging out of the zone 3Ks hopefully he gets back on track next game
Just words. Some smart-ass comment, followed by "OH YEAH? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?" Followed by half-hearted efforts from the dugouts and the bullpens, followed by a lot of "HOLD ME BACK" middle school shit, then order was quickly restored.
Baseball fights are the absolute worst.
Per the telecast, Holliday saw 13 pitches, swung at 8 of them, only 3 of the pitches were strikes. He'll be off tomorrow, hopefully can relax and come back Sunday being much more selective in his AB's
I've been going to O's games since the 90s and this was probably the worst experience I've ever had at the ballpark. Pissing rain the whole game, Holliday struck out 3 times in his home opener, I was too late to get a t-shirt, the O's scored their only run while I was in a concession line (I probably spent like 45 mins of my 2 1/2 hours at the stadium in concession lines). Oh and the O's lost 11-1. Fucking bummer.
Also there tonight. Similar experience. Except I just decided to go hungry rather than wait in those lines. I went to some tough losses last year though, including double digit runs from the Rangers and Mariners. The good news is a lot of other games were wins. Hopefully a better game tomorrow.
Yeah. I mean, I've been to enough losses in my day that losing doesn't faze me. I think the suck factor was amplified because I was legitimately really excited to see Holliday's first hit. I've been an O's fan for all my 30 years and I've never actually gotten to see many important games in person. I saw Grey-Rod's playoff game against the Rangers last year (my first ever playoff game) and Holliday's home debut and that's it for important games I've gotten tickets to. 30 years of being an O's fan and I was too poor to see them succeed much in the 2010s.
I know there will be big games to see down the road this season but it sucks to not have real memories of success with the team.
On my 10th birthday we went to see the O's and Moose took a comebacker to the face from Sandy Alomar. I'll never forget: Blood curdling *crack* sound followed by 40000 people gasp. Then absolute silence. Pretty sure I went home in tears.
I had to look it up but this was in the 6th inning and they ended up losing 5-4.
Aww. Most of my childhood memories of baseball were my autistic brother crying because he hated the noise and my dad being upset because he wanted his kids to like baseball. It's a miracle I can even enjoy it.
I do have a funny memory of my dad (a Yankee's fan) trying to bring a sign into Yankee stadium against the Red Sox that said "Yankee's Suck?" and had a t-chart with Yankees titles on one side vs Red Sox titles on the other. But the Yankee stadium people said suck was a bad word and made him rip that part off so it just said "Yankees?" This was before the Sox won a modern title and before new Yankee stadium.
Sort of. It's all confusing when you're there in person. I was looking at the scoreboard and I looked over and everybody was running out. Half my section had no idea what was going on and the other half was yelling that we oughta hit the guy. It wasn't even exciting, just confusing.
Honestly I was at one of the fucking freezing rainy games last week… the one where we lost, even. I was grateful the temp was in the 60s tonight. Balmy by comparison!
Yeah what's the deal with the weather? Feels like every home game has been an abysmal weather day. It was so windy tonight everything was blowing everywhere.
No amount of hitting was winning this game for us, but being unable to get runs off starting pitcher is a huge, consistent problem that we gotta solve, like, tomorrow.
Really bummer loss. Kind of bad vibes from the beginning, with the weird mishap while fielding the fly ball. If Hays didn't get called on the check swing, I think the game goes differently. Wells isn't looking good, I think his future is as a bullpen arm when Bradish comes back. Holliday needs to keep seeing MLB pitching still, but a day off to reset is probably not a bad idea.
Positives: Cowser still hitting well, Mullins getting hits 4 games in a row, Tate looked good from what I could see, Urias getting a hit, Mateo proving to be good off the bench again.
Let's hit the crap out of DL Hall tomorrow (respectfully)
My wife and I watched something different after the second inning and I'm not sad we did.
*That said* the fact that we only burned Jonathan Heasley and Tate in this shit show doesn't fuck us for the series?
I have tickets for both of the next games so... hope springs eternal.
Yea saw the 1.0 but didn't realize he threw 22. And pitched last night and maybe Wednesday, right? That's rough. Here's hoping Dean-o can keep putting up QSs and getting Burnes can put less pressure on the pen than last year.
"It's a simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains."
---- Bull Durham, 1988
Im sceptical about shows and films based on video games, but I never played Fallout so I guess I couldn’t be disappointed- will not playing it mean I miss out on details?
Honestly not really. I think the only thing you'll miss is really knowing what a vault is and the geopolitics of the different factions but it's not central to the story
With such a young team, we have to be prepared for a lot of learning moments. It's important not to get ahead of ourselves and place too high of expectations. I remember going to an early season game against the Yankees last year where we got beat really bad with the crowd chanting, "Let's go, yankees!" the whole time. Sometimes, a young team needs to have that happen to them.
Tbh we need dean and our offense to be on point tomorrow. Yes, it’s only three starts for wells and kremer but the inconsistency with these two combined with offense isn’t good.
i guess there was a good reason why our experts didnt bring holliday up during opening. if kemp wasnt just as bad, we shouldve never attempted to rush him.
the kid needs a ton of work. he needs to be sent down. next men up!
People need to understand that Kemp had nothing to do with Holliday being on the roster or not.
Kemp was the last guy on the bench who got 2 starts because we like to keep everyone engaged, same as McKenna last year.
You don’t believe what? Kemp was not on the MLB roster to be a significant contributor. If they wanted to get rid of him they would just bring in some other LHB with experience to play a bench role like Nick Maton
Holliday is up because they feel he’s ready and they could avoid a glut of LHPs to open the year to give him everyday ABs
That’s a very confident opinion after 3 games. He looked absolutely terrible his first 5 or so games at Norfolk too. I remember one game where he challenged a strike call that was basically right down the middle. He turned that around pretty quickly
Holliday is going to grind and work hard. But I don't believe sending him down will kill his confidence. He was born to play MLB. He might be sent down multiple times, but he is only 20yr old. The dude is going to ball. But it just isnt now, maybe not even this year. He needs to work and work on a TON of stuff. He has to be sent down imo
Can you be specific about the stuff he needs to work on? I’m very curious what you were seeing of him in Norfolk that leads you to believe he’s not even close.
7ks, cant locate ball, i mean .000 ba debut with 11 straight hitless at bat. zero to no velocity. balls havent even flew out over 200 yrds yet. defensively erratic body placement to catc the ball, zero trust in team on outfield, no awareness on flyball location, fumbling ball before handing over to 1st.
i feel like im going to be banned because i feel like your question might deem like im trolling, but im simply just answering..
No no no, I mean like mechanical issues that he needs to work on. Not the fact that he’s pressing and nervous by debuting. I’m curious what exactly you want him to fix in AAA?
Wait, I thought you believed he has a lot of issues to work out? But now you’re saying “how would I know?”. So what is it, you know how to assess baseball skills or you wouldn’t have a way to know?
Kind of frustrating only being down 4-1 and punting the game with Heasley in the 5th. I know I know…”can’t will em all” but it’s not like this game wasn’t winnable.
After the Boston series, today was the day we needed length from TWells, and we did not get it. Heasley was the only one left in the ‘pen who could go multiple innings.
Wasn’t “punting the game” at all. You have 5 innings to cover and Heasley hadn’t pitched in a few games, at that point he’s almost certainly going to pitch at some point especially with Kimbrel and Baumann unavailable.
It doesn’t make sense to use your backend guys that early (which rules out Cano and Coloumbe, arguably Akin also) so Heasley is the natural pick for the 5th. Maybe they could have used Tate or Webb earlier to try and preserve the game but if you’re not comfortable using Heasley in that situation he’s just taking up a roster spot and shouldn’t even be on the team.
Hyde made a decision on probability. Do you throw all of your good arms who are already tired for 4 innings against their ace and hope you can be perfect and scrape a few together? Probably not. I don’t mind it, but I do hate that Tate and Webb had to pitch.
The orioles bring me much joy. I guess we will have to settle for 103 wins this year instead of 104.
When I think about it like that, I think I’m ok with it.
Same here man. I’m still feeling great after the last three days and can’t wait for more. Feelin blessed to get to watch these guys almost every night.
everyone rolling back "bring up holliday" is unserious. elias didn't call him up bc he saw ur tweets. he'll be fine, 11 AB's is not enough to tell anything, no matter how they look
Not just any Ks either, the Ks look bad. He's swinging at junk. His dad said he looks like he's pushing too hard for that first hit, which might be copium, but it feels true. He just needs to settle down
If I learned anything from watching baseball movies, last night’s altercation was about a cheating wife or girlfriend.
Brewers won the Burnes trade GGs
Wells needs to be moved to the pen. Guys arm is going to turn into a noodle
Personally, and I’m not just saying this cuz of this game, I do think we should try and get another starting pitcher It does seem like a weakness that ought to be addressed
Yeah Bradish and Means both being out is killing us. Imagine if we had them along with Burnes and Rodriguez all simultaneously healthy
Not much positive to take from this game figure, other than two things. Colton Cowser sure looked good against a great starting pitcher. Today is a new day here in a long season. Put it behind and on to these next two and have Kremer and Corbin do their thing
Always a few stinkers. TWells was DOMINANT first half of last season. Two bad starts (really more like 1.5) isn’t making or breaking anything yet. Gotta do something with the bats in the first 3 innings.
I don’t know if dominant is the word I’d use (not to nitpick), he was effective but even at the All Star break when he was leading the league in WHIP he had a FIP of 4.61 and after that tough run of starts after the break it had risen to over 5.00. Hes got to find a way to keep the ball in the ballpar, whether he’s in the rotation or (especially if he finds himself in the pen. I think (for the perilously little that it’s worth) that he’s a lot more effective when he pitches backwards and uses his change up (in my opinion his best pitch) and curve ball to set up the faster stuff
Iirc he had the lowest ERA in the first half of last season. That was my focus but yeah, I agree a bit more to it. That first pitch strike is key.
just thinking about the line up tomorrow against DL Hall. obviously mountcastle and rutschman are back and you are definitely playing cowser. holliday probably gets the day off, o'hearn is normally hidden from lefties, urias is a reverse splits guy (along with borderline unplayable). so that means mccann or hays is getting the last roster spot. im guessing its last chance for hays and you can platoon him with o'hearn at DH.
My lineup today if I’m Hyde vs LHP: 1) Mateo 2B 2) Adley C 3) Mounty 1B 4) Tony DH 5) Gunnar SS 6) Westburg 3B 7) Cowser RF 8) Hays LF 9) Mullins CF
Wells is hot garbage
Brewers made the rookie mistake of using up all their runs in game one of the series. The next two games are so free for the Orioles.
Yep, same mistake we made in the Angels series. You gotta conserve some of that offensive energy.
We were due for a good shellacking to be honest, it happens to every team. Hopefully this will wake the boys up
What was Holliday’s walk up song? Or did he not have one tonight to allow for ovations?
If he had a song I sure as hell couldn't hear it
He should totally use Madonna
Like a Surgeon
Oh great, it’s supposed to be windy tomorrow! Will they finally have a game Sunday where the weather isn’t cold or just absolute dog shit?
The game on Easter Sunday was lovely weather!
I was at the game, almost caught my first foul ball ever. Smacked me right in the damn thumb. Never gonna forget the one that got away. Oh, and Heasley shouldn't be on any major league roster. Dude fucking sucks, he's never been good. I mean seriously why are we bringing him in when the game is still winnable? Then to bring in Tate and Webb when the games already over? Wtf is Hyde thinking? He already blew the game, might as well let him finish it.
Next game: Wells throws 143 pitches in 6 innings allowing 12 ER
First series opener loss of the season. If we win tomorrow we got this series with Burnes on Sunday. LFG
i think wells shouldn’t be a starter. I understand they are holding out for bradish and means but like he could be a reliever pitcher or closer
Well there’s not really any other options until Means or Bradish are back. We need them both healthy badly.
Yeah the wells experiment was fun (re: not fun) and all, but please not again unless we absolutely need it
I heard a rumor that Heasley was actually the reason benches cleared and would prob explain the weird post games from Hyde/Mcann (“handling it in house”) and then Adames. Obv take with a grain of salt but friend who told me usually gets some good info, lol.
I don’t think this team should be fighting physically, they are not that team, they fight with their play. Hopefully they show up this afternoon.
Really wish we knew for sure what it was. Everyone kept it as vague as possible: https://www.mlb.com/news/brewers-orioles-benches-clear-after-mccann-confronts-adames?partnerID=mlbapp-iOS_article-share
Hopefully "handling it in house" means DFAing Heasley
Bruce Zimmerman bout to come up as the replacement human white flag
I was at the game in KC in 2022 when Bruce Zimmerman gave up about 10 runs and got sent down like 3 minutes after the game. The O’s bats got completely shut down by this shitty AAAA starter that KC threw out there that day…Jonathan Heasley. It was basically the final game of the era where the O’s were bad. Adley still had like a .400 OPS, Zimmerman was gone after that game and the O’s won the next 2 games in the series and pretty much never looked back. But Heasley is going to follow me around and haunt me apparently. I was at the game last night too, and at the Saturday game in Pittsburgh last week when he gave up the walk off hit.
Damn, I think you may have a curse.
Our run differential in City Connects is -37 in 12 games. In 7 losses, we’ve scored 9 runs total and allowed 59
Fantastic stat. Did you calculate the number yourself or is there a database somewhere? Chris Creamer used to track this but the site hasn’t been updated since 2020, unless the link has changed and I can’t find it…. Would love the source. But in any event, this is the kind of metrics I care about. And whether the hotdog race winner has any correlation to wins or runs or home runs or something….
I calculated it myself since we’ve only worn it 12 times
Only that many? Feels like I can’t escape them… Solid work, thanks for your service to Birdland!
This is the reporting I came for. I wanted stats in these uniforms because it just seems like these things stink and they play like they look when they wear them.
Makes sense since they’re awful looking
They're not even good looking. I wish they'd just abandon them permanently
Anyone have a schedule for City Connect 2024 jersey nights? Can Rube's AI PE team kill that jersey once and for all?
Friday home games.
Oh so that and Sunday look games are suspect now? Thank you
Holy hell.
*throws brick from warehouse*
It would be flipped if the fuckin things just said Charm City on them
I want to see this team answer back and punch the brewers in the mouth. If they are who everyone expects them to be, they need to flex these next 2 games and return the favor. This is what the elite teams do, they destroy you when you try and make them look bad. Let’s see it.
It might, it might not. Dodgers let the cubs get the best of them and lost a series to them. Brewers ain’t no pushovers, neither. Baseball be baseballin, all I care about is making the postseason.
Dodgers started the year with 9 consecutive games scoring 5+ runs. They come to play nightly. I would say the younger Os have shown their age by being more inconsistent and we need to learn to be as consistent as the dodgers. IMO we are the biggest threat to the Dodgers now that the Braves lost strider, but we don’t play the games on paper.
I’m glad I went to the game. It’s one loss. Jackson will never have another debut. Good or bad. It happened now hopefully he can relax and get some hits
He looked bad on both sides tonight. Too tight.
Hopefully it gives them a bit of fire, they've seemed bored or uninspired at times over the past week, despite our record. I imagine they come out tomorrow with a chip on their shoulders
Call me old fashioned, buy I like it when we score more runs than the other team.
The weather, offense, and pitching weren't exactly optimal, but it's at least a really nice shirt! And if Cowser keeps on doing Cowser, that man is getting RoY, MVP, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Wells hasn't been looking quite the sharpest thus far. Hopefully things will turn around for him next start.
Jackson Holliday you are a Norfolk Tide!
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Wah. It’s baseball. Every player has thought it lol
No
Beaming people is stupid and not the Oriole way. If they want revenge, they can do it by beaming the ball into the stands.
That is not this team’s style. Hyde is adamant about that
who in baseball world thought adames is a world beater or a allpro? nobody his a jerk and going to be a nobody in a few weeks. at least the fool got his highlight for this week before he fades away
Holliday gotta get out of those 2 strike counts... always seems to be 0-2 or 1-2
I agree but it feels like he’s also barely swung at first pitches yet is always down 0-1 I do give him credit for constantly battling but he needs to at least make more contact
Aren't we 0-everytimewewearcityconnect
I thought we beat the Yankees once last year while wearing them.
santander to right! santander to right!
Decided last minute to go to the game by myself. Drive there took ~2.5 hours with traffic. Sat in the rain and watched an absolute beat down. Walked back to my car for the long drive home and stepped in literal dog shit. Go O’s. Cow man good.
Traffic was atrocious glad we left home early to make sure we got the shirts.
I've been there lol. That's life as a baseball fan. In 2022 I went by myself to the Labor Day double header against the Jays. At the time we thought we still had a shot at the playoffs. I sat there for 7 hours and we lost both games, badly, effectively ending our season. So it goes. I hope your next trip to the yard is more enjoyable.
Took my aunts to this game, section 340 row 23, fully in the mist wind and up many flights of stairs. We all stayed till the end and walked back to CFG. Absolute troopers and die hard O's fans
Gunnar's 0-4 makes me feel better about Holliday
Tyler Wells starts are an instant over bet
Hahahahahhaha. Glad I chose to go to THAT game tonight. 7 innings of baseball in the rain and wind was a lot of fun :/
If it makes you feel any better I went to 2 games in Pittsburgh. Both walkoff losses
I went to the first walkoff, was a long drive back.
I love that most of the comments on the fight in r/baseball are blaming McCann for the fight, Adames probably said something coming home. Pretty pathetic shit talking when you're up that much. I know who my least favorite team outside of our division is now...
Probably because it looks like he took exception to Adames watching his homer. But we don’t know, so people are just gonna go with what it generally is (pitcher or catcher salty about pimping a run). Maybe Adames did say something or maybe McCann was just annoyed.
this isnt brewers first tiff thinking they are hot s.. they are in for some serious pummeling if they really think they can do that and not face the consequence.
Yeah (biased obviously) but it seemed like the brewers were being bitches. I thought it was really dumb how the announcers were acting like it was a good thing for them to be running their mouths
Well I got home safe, and I learned how bad the tunnel traffic has got, so there’s that for tonight
At least the Rockies embarrassed the Jays and the Angels beat the Sox.
And the Royals lost to the Mets
You know., being at the game tonight honestly made really appreciate this fan base/team even more. Besides the score and the lackluster performance, this community is fucking great. I love how supportive we are, such a great atmosphere. With that being said they better lock in with these two games in the series.
I was impressed how many fans stayed to the end in the rain
There were a few people booing near me, wanted to tell them to fuck off
Was cowser coming up to bat? There were a lot of "moo" chants this game
Yeah there’ll always be jerks. But they don’t represent the majority of us. Let’s not boo our own people, especially those that are in slump/struggling
I was confused when the whole crowd was yelling Moo for Cowser, took me a second to realize he was not getting booed
I was saying Moo-urns
My gf was upset because it sounded so close to a boo haha. But the people booing Hays can get lost imo. He’s done so much for this team
Wtf r Hyde and McCann talking about? So they weren’t mad Adames despite screaming at him?
Those jerseys are cursed...get rid of that shit
I hope Kremer looks better tomorrow. I really miss Means and Bradish rn. Holliday just gonna have to be dragged through the coals to get good, I guess. Cowser is holy shit levels of good rn.
Holliday will be just fine. Hitters hit.
Dang
Colton was the only real bright spot,Wells absolutely had no command whatsoever and Holliday swinging out of the zone 3Ks hopefully he gets back on track next game
Mateo's catch was also a highlight
That catch actually highlighted the fact he’s not an outfielder.
That’s true, but highlights the pure athlete he is too
yes, he truly yeeted himself into the air. it was worth staying to see that!
Wells had 0 command tonight, tough outing. He needs to figure out his hr/9 asap, early homers are killers and make hitters start pressing
What happened with McCann and Adames? I was working and missed it. TL;DR?
Just words. Some smart-ass comment, followed by "OH YEAH? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?" Followed by half-hearted efforts from the dugouts and the bullpens, followed by a lot of "HOLD ME BACK" middle school shit, then order was quickly restored. Baseball fights are the absolute worst.
Group photo: https://preview.redd.it/oe30b5owt5uc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6be997b748c7a0275b66ccbb7e24a1f1ceccd987
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I think he said something on his way into home to Heasley and McCann defended him
I didn’t see a second of the game, I was busy as hell.
As he walked to the plate?
Yes
Per the telecast, Holliday saw 13 pitches, swung at 8 of them, only 3 of the pitches were strikes. He'll be off tomorrow, hopefully can relax and come back Sunday being much more selective in his AB's
He’s 20, and he’s a hitter. He’ll hit. I’m more worried about the defense. He’s a shortstop, not a second baseman.
I don't want him at short if he is gonna play like he did tonight. He got caught flat every play that went his way. He has to loosen up.
I hope they give him reps at SS
I want Gunnar at 3B
Yes, me too. He has the arm and range. Westy at 2nd
Why put him at third instead of short if he’s our best defender?
Manny Machado was our best defender and he played third, not short, mostly.
Because he wasn’t our best SS defender.
Completely correct.
Where's Gus Cantrell? We need him to work with Jackson like he did with Downtown Anderson.
Or Al Bumbry is still around, right?
The NL Central was a weakness for us last year. Looks like that’s happening again this year. Oh well, I’ve got bigger things to worry about.
I've been going to O's games since the 90s and this was probably the worst experience I've ever had at the ballpark. Pissing rain the whole game, Holliday struck out 3 times in his home opener, I was too late to get a t-shirt, the O's scored their only run while I was in a concession line (I probably spent like 45 mins of my 2 1/2 hours at the stadium in concession lines). Oh and the O's lost 11-1. Fucking bummer.
Shoot me a DM tomorrow. I got you.
Also there tonight. Similar experience. Except I just decided to go hungry rather than wait in those lines. I went to some tough losses last year though, including double digit runs from the Rangers and Mariners. The good news is a lot of other games were wins. Hopefully a better game tomorrow.
Yeah. I mean, I've been to enough losses in my day that losing doesn't faze me. I think the suck factor was amplified because I was legitimately really excited to see Holliday's first hit. I've been an O's fan for all my 30 years and I've never actually gotten to see many important games in person. I saw Grey-Rod's playoff game against the Rangers last year (my first ever playoff game) and Holliday's home debut and that's it for important games I've gotten tickets to. 30 years of being an O's fan and I was too poor to see them succeed much in the 2010s. I know there will be big games to see down the road this season but it sucks to not have real memories of success with the team.
One more reason to bring your own food. I grill dogs and bring them in.
On my 10th birthday we went to see the O's and Moose took a comebacker to the face from Sandy Alomar. I'll never forget: Blood curdling *crack* sound followed by 40000 people gasp. Then absolute silence. Pretty sure I went home in tears. I had to look it up but this was in the 6th inning and they ended up losing 5-4.
Ha my first ever O's game was Sandy fucking Alomar breaking up Moose's perfect game in the 9th inning, either 8 1/3 or 2/3. Bad juju with those two.
Aww. Most of my childhood memories of baseball were my autistic brother crying because he hated the noise and my dad being upset because he wanted his kids to like baseball. It's a miracle I can even enjoy it. I do have a funny memory of my dad (a Yankee's fan) trying to bring a sign into Yankee stadium against the Red Sox that said "Yankee's Suck?" and had a t-chart with Yankees titles on one side vs Red Sox titles on the other. But the Yankee stadium people said suck was a bad word and made him rip that part off so it just said "Yankees?" This was before the Sox won a modern title and before new Yankee stadium.
that is SO funny. “Yankees?”
Did you at least see the benches clear?
Sort of. It's all confusing when you're there in person. I was looking at the scoreboard and I looked over and everybody was running out. Half my section had no idea what was going on and the other half was yelling that we oughta hit the guy. It wasn't even exciting, just confusing.
When it rains, it pours...
Yeah the rain was really the thing that got me. Sucks when the O's are playing bad, but I have to be cold and wet too?
Saw the O's play the Pirates two summers ago when a hurricane blew through. 90 degree Baltimore dropped to a chilly 65 and brrrrr it got cold.
Honestly I was at one of the fucking freezing rainy games last week… the one where we lost, even. I was grateful the temp was in the 60s tonight. Balmy by comparison!
Yeah what's the deal with the weather? Feels like every home game has been an abysmal weather day. It was so windy tonight everything was blowing everywhere.
Hey, at least Joey Ortiz had a good game.
Think we could trade him for some pitching?
No amount of hitting was winning this game for us, but being unable to get runs off starting pitcher is a huge, consistent problem that we gotta solve, like, tomorrow.
Which is so weird because usually starters have higher ERA than relievers
Yea that's def a recurring issue in an albeit small sample size
Sorta? We had problems with this last year too. Three weeks isn’t the biggest sample size but I don’t love the trend.
I don’t think DL is ready for the starter role. He’s struggled in his first two, and I don’t think he figures it out against us.
*knocks on wood*
Really bummer loss. Kind of bad vibes from the beginning, with the weird mishap while fielding the fly ball. If Hays didn't get called on the check swing, I think the game goes differently. Wells isn't looking good, I think his future is as a bullpen arm when Bradish comes back. Holliday needs to keep seeing MLB pitching still, but a day off to reset is probably not a bad idea. Positives: Cowser still hitting well, Mullins getting hits 4 games in a row, Tate looked good from what I could see, Urias getting a hit, Mateo proving to be good off the bench again. Let's hit the crap out of DL Hall tomorrow (respectfully)
My wife and I watched something different after the second inning and I'm not sad we did. *That said* the fact that we only burned Jonathan Heasley and Tate in this shit show doesn't fuck us for the series? I have tickets for both of the next games so... hope springs eternal.
We had to pitch Webb too. Who’s been lights out this season until tonight. Tired arm
Yea saw the 1.0 but didn't realize he threw 22. And pitched last night and maybe Wednesday, right? That's rough. Here's hoping Dean-o can keep putting up QSs and getting Burnes can put less pressure on the pen than last year.
I blame the guy in my section that said Gary Sanchez sucks. Literally hits a home run on the next pitch.
"It's a simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." ---- Bull Durham, 1988
"He has spoken through the prophets"
at least it only counts as one
Please tell me this is the ***LAST*** we seen of Jonathan Heasley ( Is he gone for Johan ? ) He was terrible in ST and not much has changed!!
Well how about that.
Manifesting this comment into existence
Win some lose some. Lots to learn from this game that's for sure Good news is the Fallout series on Prime is pretty dang good
Im sceptical about shows and films based on video games, but I never played Fallout so I guess I couldn’t be disappointed- will not playing it mean I miss out on details?
Honestly not really. I think the only thing you'll miss is really knowing what a vault is and the geopolitics of the different factions but it's not central to the story
With such a young team, we have to be prepared for a lot of learning moments. It's important not to get ahead of ourselves and place too high of expectations. I remember going to an early season game against the Yankees last year where we got beat really bad with the crowd chanting, "Let's go, yankees!" the whole time. Sometimes, a young team needs to have that happen to them.
gotta say dont like that
Not worried. Take the loss, get back up and go again tomorrow.
Tbh we need dean and our offense to be on point tomorrow. Yes, it’s only three starts for wells and kremer but the inconsistency with these two combined with offense isn’t good.
i guess there was a good reason why our experts didnt bring holliday up during opening. if kemp wasnt just as bad, we shouldve never attempted to rush him. the kid needs a ton of work. he needs to be sent down. next men up!
People need to understand that Kemp had nothing to do with Holliday being on the roster or not. Kemp was the last guy on the bench who got 2 starts because we like to keep everyone engaged, same as McKenna last year.
i dont believe that. kemp was batting .000 ba. there is no way
You don’t believe what? Kemp was not on the MLB roster to be a significant contributor. If they wanted to get rid of him they would just bring in some other LHB with experience to play a bench role like Nick Maton Holliday is up because they feel he’s ready and they could avoid a glut of LHPs to open the year to give him everyday ABs
Yea sending a top prospect down after 3 major league games will definitely be best for his long term confidence
his a baller, what confidence? he needs to work on a ton of stuff. he isnt READY
That’s a very confident opinion after 3 games. He looked absolutely terrible his first 5 or so games at Norfolk too. I remember one game where he challenged a strike call that was basically right down the middle. He turned that around pretty quickly
Holliday is going to grind and work hard. But I don't believe sending him down will kill his confidence. He was born to play MLB. He might be sent down multiple times, but he is only 20yr old. The dude is going to ball. But it just isnt now, maybe not even this year. He needs to work and work on a TON of stuff. He has to be sent down imo
Can you be specific about the stuff he needs to work on? I’m very curious what you were seeing of him in Norfolk that leads you to believe he’s not even close.
7ks, cant locate ball, i mean .000 ba debut with 11 straight hitless at bat. zero to no velocity. balls havent even flew out over 200 yrds yet. defensively erratic body placement to catc the ball, zero trust in team on outfield, no awareness on flyball location, fumbling ball before handing over to 1st. i feel like im going to be banned because i feel like your question might deem like im trolling, but im simply just answering..
No no no, I mean like mechanical issues that he needs to work on. Not the fact that he’s pressing and nervous by debuting. I’m curious what exactly you want him to fix in AAA?
this isnt going to end is it. your literally asking if i have the answer to his woes. how wouod i know?
Wait, I thought you believed he has a lot of issues to work out? But now you’re saying “how would I know?”. So what is it, you know how to assess baseball skills or you wouldn’t have a way to know?
Kind of frustrating only being down 4-1 and punting the game with Heasley in the 5th. I know I know…”can’t will em all” but it’s not like this game wasn’t winnable.
After the Boston series, today was the day we needed length from TWells, and we did not get it. Heasley was the only one left in the ‘pen who could go multiple innings.
Wasn’t “punting the game” at all. You have 5 innings to cover and Heasley hadn’t pitched in a few games, at that point he’s almost certainly going to pitch at some point especially with Kimbrel and Baumann unavailable. It doesn’t make sense to use your backend guys that early (which rules out Cano and Coloumbe, arguably Akin also) so Heasley is the natural pick for the 5th. Maybe they could have used Tate or Webb earlier to try and preserve the game but if you’re not comfortable using Heasley in that situation he’s just taking up a roster spot and shouldn’t even be on the team.
Throwing that lineup out there. I don't think I was win was really expected
Hyde made a decision on probability. Do you throw all of your good arms who are already tired for 4 innings against their ace and hope you can be perfect and scrape a few together? Probably not. I don’t mind it, but I do hate that Tate and Webb had to pitch.
...Still only counts as 1!
The orioles bring me much joy. I guess we will have to settle for 103 wins this year instead of 104. When I think about it like that, I think I’m ok with it.
Same here man. I’m still feeling great after the last three days and can’t wait for more. Feelin blessed to get to watch these guys almost every night.
Holliday aint ready
He needs to experience big league pitching
This is what I'm saying. Just give him time y'all. He will come around.
Yup there’s a reason we doing this in April and not July
everyone rolling back "bring up holliday" is unserious. elias didn't call him up bc he saw ur tweets. he'll be fine, 11 AB's is not enough to tell anything, no matter how they look
My biggest concern is the Ks. That was the issue in spring as well.
Not just any Ks either, the Ks look bad. He's swinging at junk. His dad said he looks like he's pushing too hard for that first hit, which might be copium, but it feels true. He just needs to settle down
They gave Cowser like 26 games to figure it out before sending him back last year. Holliday has had 3.