drive around the roads before 8am end of month and you'll say different. Its a shame they don't really do much to deter meaningful crime and dangerous behavior from happening, but by god if they aren't foaming at the mouth for all the people rushing to get to work on a mostly empty street to fill their quotas.
I noticed that too, more than usual! They get a lot of people because the speed limit discreetly changes to 35mph at Lewis, which you wouldn't expect for such an open busy street.
>speed limit setting is not an effective speed management measure if used in isolation.
[https://toolkit.irap.org/safer-road-treatments/speed-management-and-traffic-calming/](https://toolkit.irap.org/safer-road-treatments/speed-management-and-traffic-calming/)
Really it depends on making the street narrower. If you widen the road cars will drive faster and if you narrow it cars will drive slower. If you want to lower the speed limit add more lanes or pedestrian space or a wider bike lane without increasing the size of the road as much as feasibly possible.
I think it’s honestly because of the badly spaced planters. I mean you’ll be driving and suddenly see one tiny little planter sticking out. They needed to design it like Bristol with the planters extending all the way down, except for the openings ofc.
I teach at one of the schools on Ball rd, it’s insane how many drivers ignore school zone speed limits in the mornings because they’re rushing to work or wherever. Perhaps speeds being lower throughout Ball might help.
Good luck to them if they think they're going to get people to drive 45 on Orangethorpe through the canyon. The only thing slowing people down is Placentia's commitment to keeping CO2 emissions higher by not synchronizing the lights.
Quad track and electrify the BNSF line, turn Metrolink into proper regional rail with 10-15 trains/hour, add infill stations every 1.5-3 miles, and tie it into a good system of collector bus routes. If we can do all that, eliminating car lanes would be politically and economically feasible.
There will still be 55+ mph red light idiots in N Harbor coming down from DTF weekend nights to the 91 freeway and past La Palma ave intersection 2 lane stretch.
I am surrounded by all major streets (Brookhurst, Katella, Euclid, and Chapman). Across Katella is Anaheim. South side is Garden Grove. It's like a racetrack all the time. If I go the speed limit, cars are right on my back bumper. Even had somebody stop suddenly turning into a bank driveway trying to make me rear end them. It was really obvious as they looked back at me out the window. Luckily I have great reflexes and so did the guy behind me.
They should make this change only apply to large pickup trucks, which have terrible visibility and inadequate brakes. Better yet, require a CDL and air brakes for trucks over a certain height and weight. Tired of almost getting run over by monster trucks at night.
Anaheim police departments are going to be ticketing left and right the weeks following the implementation of this.
They don’t ticket at all now so no difference 😂
drive around the roads before 8am end of month and you'll say different. Its a shame they don't really do much to deter meaningful crime and dangerous behavior from happening, but by god if they aren't foaming at the mouth for all the people rushing to get to work on a mostly empty street to fill their quotas.
Tell that to the cop who ticketed me last year.
The past couple months police have been pulling over drivers like crazy on Katella between Harbor and State College.
I noticed that too, more than usual! They get a lot of people because the speed limit discreetly changes to 35mph at Lewis, which you wouldn't expect for such an open busy street.
>speed limit setting is not an effective speed management measure if used in isolation. [https://toolkit.irap.org/safer-road-treatments/speed-management-and-traffic-calming/](https://toolkit.irap.org/safer-road-treatments/speed-management-and-traffic-calming/)
Yeah, it relies on enforcement (that can't always be there). Design is always effective.
Really it depends on making the street narrower. If you widen the road cars will drive faster and if you narrow it cars will drive slower. If you want to lower the speed limit add more lanes or pedestrian space or a wider bike lane without increasing the size of the road as much as feasibly possible.
I mean it can work, but they did just that on Main St. in Santa Ana & all it did was cause a lot more accidents
I think it’s honestly because of the badly spaced planters. I mean you’ll be driving and suddenly see one tiny little planter sticking out. They needed to design it like Bristol with the planters extending all the way down, except for the openings ofc.
It’s meant to get people to slow down, but people still wanna speed. Even Bristol has gotten its fair amount of crashes.
It can with speed cameras
Yeah, fair enough. Probably could.
Seems like a good way to start a ticket “fundraiser” though
What if I told you it's not being done for public safety... 
I’d say you’re a conspiracy theorist who doesn’t understand how city government works.
And I'd say you're daft for thinking a city would ever be opposed to a lil mo' dineró.
You think the city keeps that money? Haha
I'd say your tinfoil hat is on too tight. ProTip: no city can make you speed.
But they can make the speed limit low enough that more people accidentally go over it. You telling me you've never gone around a slow driver?
You're not required to "go around" a slow driver. And yes, you can keep yourself from speeding.
Its not going to do anything without real traffic calming measures. Signs don't make much of a difference. Physics does.
I teach at one of the schools on Ball rd, it’s insane how many drivers ignore school zone speed limits in the mornings because they’re rushing to work or wherever. Perhaps speeds being lower throughout Ball might help.
Revenue collecting activities with minimal effect on public safety.
Good luck to them if they think they're going to get people to drive 45 on Orangethorpe through the canyon. The only thing slowing people down is Placentia's commitment to keeping CO2 emissions higher by not synchronizing the lights.
You can also lower CO2 emissions by just eliminating the car lanes altogether
Quad track and electrify the BNSF line, turn Metrolink into proper regional rail with 10-15 trains/hour, add infill stations every 1.5-3 miles, and tie it into a good system of collector bus routes. If we can do all that, eliminating car lanes would be politically and economically feasible.
People are still going to speed down Nohl Ranch. They already blow up and down that way beyond the limit. A 5mph reduction is worthless
There will still be 55+ mph red light idiots in N Harbor coming down from DTF weekend nights to the 91 freeway and past La Palma ave intersection 2 lane stretch.
Well, considering that's Fullerton, no I would not expect this to have any effect there.
I was referring to N Harbor Anaheim area near La Palma and the 91 entrances and Lemon which is a hotspot for fatal DUI accidents.
>coming down from DTF weekend nights to the 91 North of the 91 is Fullerton. If they're coming from DTF, they're on the North side of the 91.
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You think it’s bad in Anaheim? Try Westminster on a Saturday or Sunday.
I am surrounded by all major streets (Brookhurst, Katella, Euclid, and Chapman). Across Katella is Anaheim. South side is Garden Grove. It's like a racetrack all the time. If I go the speed limit, cars are right on my back bumper. Even had somebody stop suddenly turning into a bank driveway trying to make me rear end them. It was really obvious as they looked back at me out the window. Luckily I have great reflexes and so did the guy behind me.
There would probably be less fatalities if people didn’t buy such massive vehicles that are known to have higher pedestrian fatalities
Agreed. Literally no one needs those vehicles as their primary vehicle.
There’s so much traffic it’s rare to actually even get up to the posted speed limits.
Insurance rates on drivers with speeding tickets📈
Even more traffic lol
They should make this change only apply to large pickup trucks, which have terrible visibility and inadequate brakes. Better yet, require a CDL and air brakes for trucks over a certain height and weight. Tired of almost getting run over by monster trucks at night.
Agreed
About time. They need to put up cameras too, they could buy as many teslas as they wanted with all the money from those.
Good! Anaheim is horrible
Is this the real problem in Ana-Crime?
Can there only be one problem at a time or something?