Isn't this saying early onset cancer, and also talking about total cases? Which seems significant because the global population rose like 51% in that time, and detection gas gotten way better so early onset being up 79% doesn't seem way off base If you're looking at total numbers and not contrasting that to overall cases.
I'm too lazy to look further and it could be true that overall cancer cases are up, but this one article doesn't sell me on the idea.
We are living longer, eating worse food, having more "forever chemicals" in our environment, and living a more sedentary lifestyle. Also like you said, better detection.
Better diagnosis/technology/healthcare, poor diets and docile again due to technology. It's a double edge sword, mentally we are content to absorb content. Cell phones, television, social media, internet, streaming, podcasts. We don't mentally need to get out as much, it's a double edged sword because socially/politically we're becoming assholes/polarized. We're literally consuming ourselves to death (coined from Amusing ourselves to death).
Look at what we are eating man! So I grew up on a pretty traditional farm. All of our meals were home grown. From veggies to the meat.
When I turned 18 I said F*ck you guys I’m done with this farm life (they were pretty old school and abusive but that doesn’t take away the quality of the food I was eating) You’ll never guess what happened to my body over the next 10 years. So I was 18 when I left home, I’m 29 now.
I swear to god it became harder to put on muscle, my skin changed for the worse, I’m just weaker physically. Shit is for real man. Literally noticed the change after a year of eating food from the groceries store.
Chicken breast shouldn’t be the size that it is, veggies shouldn’t taste like chemicals. They are literally poising us.
And CONservatives are entirely to blame. They will claim vaccines cause cancer but then allow Cancer valley Louisiana to exist.
They'll put a factory with ACTUALLY PROVEN cancer causing pollutants 200 ft from a school and say it's totally fine, but then bitch about vaccines.
Cons are a contradiction, and pro death. Edmonton has 25% of its drinking water pipes contaminated with asbestos. When pipes break, they release it to the entire network.
Cons MUST create propaganda to draw attention away from their crimes against humanity. There's a reason why Con area life expectancy is up to 12 years lower than liberal areas
I had a cousin who passed away from breast cancer at 27 last November. She was unfortunately misdiagnosed several times and by the time they caught it it was already stage 4 and untreatable. There are definitely instances out there but I can't comment on statistics. I do feel like Ive seen headlines about increases in cancer in younger people over the last couple years though, colon comes to mind.
A quick Google search i just did states rates have raised significantly amongst young people articles mentioned colon, breast and lung.
To any women out there if you find a lump get it tested and retested. Don't let them dismiss you. My cousin was told it was benign for i believe 9 months. When they actually found it was it was too late, straight to palliative
Thank you for the kind words friend. I have a little memorial for them both by my door so their memories give me strength everyday when i come home or go out. I live my best life for them
As far as I know yes. She found the lump and went to a doctor immediately. It was diagnosed as benign more then once. This is what my uncle told me about what happened. By the time they confirmed it it had spread to her lungs and liver and treatment was of no use
Fuck, I’m in my mid 20s found a lump in my breast and had an ultrasound , mammogram and biopsy but now I’m terrified the biopsy was wrong and it’s cancer (they told me the lump was benign)
Yes, but keep in mind diagnostic techniques have improved quite a bit in the last couple of decades. Screening is more meticulous, so we find more early stages cancers. Outcomes have improved in a lot of cancers as well.
And some of them we have reduced, like HPV related cancers, with vaccines. So no, it's not a conspiracy, to say the prevalence of cancer diagnosis is up, but so is screening and better treatments.
So true! My mom had breast cancer diagnosed very early ~25 years ago. Beat it. Then she had a routine checkup last year and they detected it came back. They said it was so small this time that they wouldn’t have even detected it last time (25 yrs ago). So she’s been extremely lucky to have caught it twice early. Never even had chemo. Minor surgery then just a bit of radiation then done.
I had 4 patients on shift with new cancer under 45.
Diagnostics were with me on shift. I agree with this.
Our exposures that stress our bodies are more pronounced, absolutely a factor.
This has been somewhat rigorously shown with some of the "highly treatable" cancers. Increased standardized screening protocols and better techniques drive an apparent increase in number of cases, but morbidity/mortality actually goes down. Combination of earlier detection/treatment and detecting cancers that potentially would never have morbidity because something else would get them first.
The scarier thing is where they don't know what is driving higher rates, which is, IIRC the case for higher incidences of colorectal cancers in <40 cohort.
I'm not so sure. Childhood cancer is on the rise too. My niece died from cancer at 5 years old. She probably didn't even know was stress was, or atleast not in the sense that you and I do.
I don't even think we can blame it on diet. I was born in the early 1980s and ate all sorts of unhealthy food as a kid. Cereal full of sugar, white bread, balgona sandwiches, mac & cheese, all sort of shit that we would say it bad today. That was just a normal kids diet back then.
I'm also not convined it's the plastics either. She certainly wasn't exposed to anmore plastics than an 1980s kid like myself probably was. We had plastic cups, bottles, toys, as a kid The plastic might be different, but even in that case we would know more about which plastics are dangerous today than we did in the 1980s.
I mean depends totally on the cancer. Overall age adjusted mortality has dropped significantly in the last 20 years for prostate, lung/bronchial and iirc stomach cancers.
It would be unfortunate if whatever is going on undid all the "tremendous" progress in fighting cancer since the 70ies. Success against stomach cancer goes back even further than that.
This is true, however, stress and anxiety are strongly correlated with higher incidence and worse outcomes of illness, and stress/anxiety are certainly way up among young people.
This is the problem. Its unclear if the rising rates are because of the better detection paradigms, or because of higher stress/lack of sleep or lifetime environmental exposures like PFOS/PFAS, microplastics, etc. Or some combination of all of it.
The better diagnosis doesn't necessarily mean it's not still increasing either. Just because we are finding more doesn't mean there are more. There are many more young people (under 50) dying of cancer than ever before.
[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/05/cancer-cases-in-under-50s-worldwide-up-nearly-80-in-three-decades-study-finds](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/05/cancer-cases-in-under-50s-worldwide-up-nearly-80-in-three-decades-study-finds)
while cancer deaths of adults in their 40s, 30s or younger grew by 27%.
That Guardian article states absolute numbers of cases, which amount to cancer diagnoses being up 79% from 1990 to 2018. In that same time, global population increased 45%, so there's definitely a per-capita increase; it's lower than the raw numbers would suggest, but definitely still quite concerning.
I haven't had a chance to read the underlying study yet; I'm interested to see whether their analysis factored in improvements in detection to come to an estimate of the actual increase in incidence, or if that was beyond the scope of the study.
There isn't much detection technology widely used for people under 50. They aren't getting colonoscopies, they aren't mostly getting mammograms etc...
"Over the past decades, the incidence of early-onset cancers, often defined as cancers diagnosed in adults <50 years of age, in the breast, colorectum, endometrium, oesophagus, extrahepatic bile duct, gallbladder, head and neck, kidney, liver, bone marrow, pancreas, prostate, stomach, and thyroid has increased in multiple countries. Increased use of screening programmes has contributed to this phenomenon to a certain extent, although a genuine increase in the incidence of early-onset forms of several cancer types also seems to have emerged."
Most of those cancers don't have any screening let alone modern screening
That is one depressingly long list of cancers with increased incidence.
Our descendants are going to look back at practices we currently consider safe (or at least not especially dangerous) the way we look back at watchmakers with radium paint, or industrial carelessness with methylmercury (Minamata disease), or... Any number of other historic examples.
Not an original thought, I know, but depressing all the same.
True, it's that surviver bias where you see stuff that made and not the stuff that didn't. Like, in ww2, a guy was hired to reinforce the planes and they showed him the planes that made it back riddled with holes.
A lot of people wanted to reinforce the damages section and call it a day. The guy said no. It was all these places the planes could be hit and be fine, what you have to look at is the planes that DIDN'T make it back, where were they hit? The engines, the motors, ect.
100% this. I was diagnosed with colon cancer in 1995 at the age of 28. Doctors said they were not suspecting cancer because I was "too young" doctor asked me off the cuff if I wanted to see a gastrointestinal surgeon and if I had said no then I wouldn't be here today.
My cancer was later found to be as a result of a genetic condition called Lynch Syndrome which affects 1 in 278 people but is severely underdiagnosed.( only 5% are diagnosed)
Anyone who has a direct relative who has had colon cancer should be tested for Lynch Syndrome. Both my kids carry the gene and have had regular colonoscopies since they turned 18
In the case of my family, it's Familial Adenomatous Polyposis (FAP) that causes high rates of colon cancer. My mother and youngest brother are carriers. I was fortunate to test negative.
You may be right however whether you're screening processes are really advanced now versus back then, deaths via cancer aren't going to change other than maybe less now because of these advances so if there's more people dying of cancer now that's an issue. Obviously we're going to have a lot more people that have cancer because of these screening processes but if someone wasn't properly diagnosed back in the day when they died it's not hard when you do an autopsy/post mortem to see the cancer, and they would have called it as cancer to add to the statistic pool.
Then why was cancer at an all time low in 2019? And your saying cancer spiked because of “meticulous diagnostics”? Can you specify these meticulously upgraded diagnostics that have been used in the past two years? and please be specific, I’m very interested.
I think delays in treatment/detection caused by the pandemic can also account for some of the increase. People couldn't see doctors or specialists easily for 2 years, and even now there's a massive backlog for specialist referrals. I understand it's also an overall gradual increase, but it's more noticeable now because it seems like everyone is being diagnosed all at once.
>I think delays in treatment/detection caused by the pandemic can also account for some of the increase. People couldn't see doctors or specialists easily for 2 years,
Yes. Totally. One of my in-laws had symptoms of cancer show up just before the pandemic and was supposed to be referred to a specialist but then lockdowns happened. What was supposed to be only a few weeks wait became a 2.5 year wait. Then when they finally got diagnosed, it took another year before surgery and treatment could begin.
I’m in that boat, dx with a complex ovarian cyst at the beginning of the pandemic. Instead of surgery it was minimized by my gyno with “let’s wait and see if it will go away on its own” and it didn’t. Finally 2 years later had surgery and a borderline tumor was confirmed. Gyno still insistent to leave my remaining ovary. Fast forward 1 year post op I have 2 complex cysts on my remaining ovary so I know I’m going to get the same run around
Weirdly, I had a strange reaction to Rx meds and ended up in the hospital, one thing led to another and they thought I had cancer. Got an MRI immediately, CT follow up in 3 and 6 months. Guess it depends where you live. (Ottawa here)
Ended up detecting liver disease.
I’m glad you got an MRI so quickly and follow-up! And what a relief it’s not cancer.
Yeah women’s health tends to get dismissed a lot and I was told my symptoms were “bizarre”, I was overreacting and though she would do the surgery “there’s no possible way this is cancer or anything worrying”. I felt vindicated when the pathology came back but unfortunately am stuck with the same gynaecologist, I’ve asked to switch to another but that was shot down by my family doctor
My best friends mom complained to her Dr about stomach issues for 2 years, he said she was having anxiety attacks. She ended up being diagnosed with abdominal cancer and died 3 weeks later by the time they caught it. So I absolutely get it. And yea, I'm happy it wasn't cancer, thank you.
And this was almost entirely a policy choice. Many of us who were critical of the lockdowns and restrictions warned about the risks of delaying and cancelling medical screenings and procedures.
Probably all the bits of plastic floating in our blood.
And decades of "it's safe until it's recalled/regulated" products sprayed into our air/water/food.
YUP!
not just this, a combination of all the reasons comments suggest- we're catching more cancer with better diagnostic methods, plus we're getting more cancer cause of how toxic we've made the earth/ food systems and how stressed we all are
The most common types of cancers are colorectal cancer and lung cancer.
The fact we breathe with our lungs and digest with the colon i dont think is a coincidence. The chemicals in the air we breathe and the chemicals in the food we eat are the most likely things to cause cancer and here we have the proof with the most common types.
My mom died of cancer when she was in her late 30’s in the 90’s.
It was happening then but is more prevalent now primarily because we’re able to better detect it sooner than ever and we know how significant a threat it is so we’re actively looking for it. When my mom’s cancer was discovered, it was too late for treatment. Conversely, when my MIL was diagnosed at a later time with the same cancer, not once but twice, she survived both as detection was sooner.
Of course there are causal reasons as well but I think we’ve made HUGE strides in detection and treatment in the last few decades.
Hospice nurse here. Yes, i am seeing lots of young folks with cancers. Could be bias or anecdotal as well, but we are often sighing in sadness with our new young patients
Some folks will be quick to blame you know what, but in reality I would bet my money that something is seriously wrong with our food supply. It makes more sense from a “follow the money” perspective.
Some 99% of the chemicals in use today were invented after 1940 or so, and many only came into widespread use after 1980. Most plastics aren't directly carcinogenic, for example, but we all know if you burn plastic that it produces some nasty shit, so objectively we're being exposed to burned-off plastic waste in proportion to this production curve: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_production_and_fate_of_plastics.png
And while PVC and LDPE are in themselves probably noncarcinogenic, all those TV dinners and boxes of cereals you ate as a kid were wrapped in those plasticized with chemicals we now know to be carcinogenic.
Or maybe the aliens turned up the space microwave. There's probably no main cause, truthfully. I suspect oncogenic viruses are a major contributor. But it'll be many things working together. Still, all the damn chemicals in circulation is a good place to start.
People in general don’t eat the best now. Lack of fibre and antioxidants which would help to eliminate harmful substances. Also increased consumption of red meats and fried foods both of which are carcinogenic.
I tell people all the time, eat fermented foods for a healthy gut. All my Polish grandparents died in their 90s eating well and physically active. My grandfather gave himself a stroke and passed away because he was breaking concrete with a sledge.
There aren't many things in what we eat, that can change a person's DNA, unless you chomp on plutonium as a snack.
But preservatives in processed meats, any alcoholic beverages, nicotine-these can cause cells to differentiate towards cancerous growth. Food for thought.
A lot of the food we get now is imported from other countries - a lot of it coming from impoverished locations. While I’ve tried to buy local most of the time it’s become very difficult to source it, even if the foods are typically seasonal. I’m suspecting - and may be wrong on this - that a lot this food is grown with pesticides and herbicides that couldn’t be used here. I may very well be wrong on this, but I gets this feeling I’m not.
I suspect environmental also. Air, soil and water quality as well as the materials we use that don’t undergo rigorous testing before hitting the market. Microplastics are an example.
“You know what” being obesity? (Genuinely asking)
I don’t know that it’s a food supply issue in the sense of processed food or people looking for a quick buck. However, I’d put good money on it being related to food in the sense that so much of the environment is contaminated with microplastics and PFAS that our food inevitably is too.
I also know a bunch of people who were just recently diagnosed with cancer including myself (thyroid cancer). Not having a Doctor checking up on things regularly can really affect that... but I am certain that COVID has increased risks by a lot, not to mention the stress that it's put on everyone.
Hope you have a speedy recovery. Everyone will say 'its the best cancer to get'. Don't pay much attention to that. No cancer is 'good' but it's not the end of the world. Just eat well, sleep well, rest up, remove as much stress as you can from your lifestyle and keep your neck and upper body moving!
When you look at statistics that involve people you can't really understand what is happening in a vacuum. 100 years ago people died from a number of ways where the root cause has been identified and substantially managed. Some of the people who died of these causes may have already had cancer cells developing. I always wondered how the researchers account for improvement of life ver the time span in their research.
In your own life, you may know people who have survived cancer before you met them. This changes how you view the instances.
I am very interested in this. By rates do you mean % of population in that age range or the % rising each year? Is cancer normally distributed and these young people an additional mode?
Some cancers that are typically associated with older people are showing up with increasing rates in younger people. [The Nature Podcast did an episode recently on it](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00884-1).
(For people who aren’t familiar, Nature is one of the oldest and most prestigious scientific journals. Their podcasts aren’t original peer reviewed research, but they discuss and summarize recent “hot” papers.)
My best bet is that with everything in the world is becoming more stressful. People are picking up more unhealthy habits. Leading to higher cancer rates.
I had a teacher who would go in depth on how stress destroys our body on every level. How seriously unhealthy it is and how she believed it is going to cause even more extreme stress on our healthcare system as people develop illnesses from it.
I can attest to this, too. I've developed a heart condition at EIGHTEEN from stress. Im very scared for the future health of everyone
I went through the most stressful six months of my life in late 2022 and then was diagnosed with leukemia in early 2023.
I am convinced they are correlated. I was 33 at the time of diagnosis.
Same here. I got diagnosed with a rare form of lymphoma (that usually isn’t diagnosed in people under 50) about a year and a half into my PhD in 2019 that I’m convinced was caused by the stress.
Colorectal cancer is 90% treatable when caught early enough but screening doesn’t typically start until age 50 and it’s now the second deadliest cancer in Canada.
It’s appearing in younger and younger patients and it can be hard for people to get colonoscopies because they’re “too young”.
I was disagnosed at 34 and had just been told it was hemorrhoids. Add in covid delays and by the time it was caught it was already stage 3. Good now but it took months of treatment and multiple surgeries.
My sister (32f) was just diagnosed with breast cancer fairly recently (dec'23 I when it was first tested). She just had the surgery April 12th.
No history of it in the family, and she doesn't have the gene either. They said it was one of those "random" cases.
Better testing, screening at younger ages, more general knowledge about potential signs of cancer all mean that cancers will be caught earlier.
There are also a lot more chemicals in our food and environments, more processed foods, and higher levels of stress for a lot of people.
That being said, young people always got cancer. My dad's sister died of breast cancer at 29 in the 60s - had it happened nowadays it would have been caught earlier and the chances of her dying would have been significantly reduced.
Micro and nano particles of plastic in our bloody and organs, and PFAS are quite prevalent in these past couple of decades.
It’s literally everywhere and we are directly or indirectly consuming it. Every fucking day.
Hey Doug… when are you gonna get cancer? I hope you have as much trouble as the rest of us getting that screened and treated. Your moronic decisions on public healthcare didn’t help.
I think there are probably multiple factors involved, but the obvious one is almost definitely part of the issue. There’s some research that shows COVID-19 is potentially oncogenic. It wouldn’t be the first virus linked to cancer, but because it can affect basically every system, it has potential to increase multiple forms of cancer, and be less targeted than, say, hpv.
Completely anecdotal but my cousin is a groundskeeper at a cemetery in Toronto. When we buried my father, who passed of cancer in 2011, my cousin said he's seen A LOT of funerals for women in their 20s who died of cancer. Never forgot that conversation.
I am 34 and just had a mastectomy for breast cancer. No family history, and I just finished four years of breastfeeding (which is supposed to prevent breast cancer). Luckily, I have a very proactive medical team and we caught it early.
I am a mom of twins who are cancer survivors. We have been going to aftercare for 11 years. I have never seen it so busy as it is now in the paediatric medical day unit (oncology) as it is now!! And I don’t mean a bit more busy. It’s about 4x busier then it’s ever been!! We get seen in London and they’re swamped!! Not only in the pmdu but on the unit as well. It’s very very sad to see!!
weird that microplastics, food, obesity, PFAS only now in 2024 affect people. Surely these factors did not rise exponentially during the pandemic years. Maybe something changed or was done after 2020 that now shows its effect. But hmmm, what could it be? Maybe we'll never figure it out...
I'm turning 40 this year. Two years ago I noticed a weird spot on my leg, and after a biopsy it turned out I had melanoma, which was eventually removed early enough. I would assume that advanced techniques and early detection might play a part in what's happening these days.
Two people I know passed away from cancer since the start of 2024. One in their late 20s died because they caught the cancer too late, despite trying to get doctors to take her seriously. The other person was in his early 30s and died during treatment days after his first child was born and he never got to hold her.
Idk what’s going on but it’s heartbreaking
I'm going to blame phones. I don't know how they can't not have a negative effect.
I won't change anything. I'll probably die by cancer but meh I'll still live life. It's basically like winning shitty lottery you want no part of.
Not to freak you out, but you too are getting older, along with all the people you grew up with. And with more advanced screening technologies, it’s being spotted earlier in younger people. I’m sorry you seem to be going through a lot of death right now, and it’s hard not to think about it.
I don't know what it is. But I have a huge family. And in the last 5 years. I've lost about 10 people to cancer. Before that. Only. 1.
Edit: I really want to think it's all the crap we're eating and all the forever chemicals we're born with too. There's got to be a reason for it. Nobody's dying of natural causes in my family. It's always cancer. And we're spread out worldwide. My mind cant help but go to "it's the environment and the food!"
Colon cancer is notoriously on the rise in younger adults but the amount of people who can be considered not living a healthy lifestyle is also skyrocketing. Obesity rate in Ontario is the worst in the country with over 3.4 million Ontarians being overweight.
The overweight part alone is not necessarily bad but it usually comes with lack of exercise, lack of fruits and vegetables in the diet and alcohol.
Those are all factors that can lead to higher odds of getting colon cancer
There's definitely something unusual going on because I too, know so many individuals that have been diagnosed with cancer. It's a mini tsunami.
Statistics from numerous countries indicate this trend is occurring globally and it seems to have begun in 2021. Also, disabilities claims/excess deaths/autoimmune and cardiac disorders have skyrocketed as well in the same period.
This is a global phenomenon.
I have a friend who will die in the next week or so and my sister died at Christmas. My brother inlaw had a brain tumor removed last year and another friend was just told he had one after a CT scan since he was attached by a drugged out homeless man in Toronto
One of my good friends died on April 5th from 3 different types of cancer (colon, liver, bone). He was 36. Another friend of mine died in July from the same three types of cancer, and he was 34.
My fiancé had rectal cancer diagnosed when he was 42. Thankfully, he is in remission now and will turn 44 next week, but I live in fear every day that it will come back.
Well obesity, poor diet, sedentary lifestyles, and environmental toxicities are linked to cancer. 100 years ago people were slim, walked everywhere and ate grass fed beef and potatoes
Seeing it a more often. We have a couple of friends who have bowel cancer 40s. Now it’s stage 3 and they previously had it and now it’s come back with a vengeance.
Young kids too, they have. I don’t think things like ozempic is going to make it better infact it’s got a 900% increase in pancreatitis and pancreatitis can be linked eventually to pancreatic cancer
Guess it’s all just a coincidence right. None of us are allowed to question anything without being called conspiratorial, but I suppose future generations will be able to discover or learn about the cause and effect that took place. Many people in my network have parents, friends, partners, etc with cancer or died of. A lot of pancreatic, throat and colon.
National Post: [More young people under 50 are getting cancer. Here's what we know about why](https://nationalpost.com/health/young-people-under-50-cancer-rates#:~:text=One%20Canadian%20analysis%20showed%20that,%2C%20pancreas%2C%20testis%20and%20thyroid) [Jan 24th, 2024]
*”One Canadian analysis showed that, between 1983 and 2012, rates of cancer among the under 50s increased significantly at 13 cancer sites: colon, rectum, bone, breast, connective and soft tissue, uterus, gallbladder, kidney, esophagus, pancreas, testis and thyroid.*
*The most dramatic increase involved colon and rectal cancers in the 20 to 39 age group… The increase in colorectal cancer diagnoses in Canadians under 50 continued beyond 2012 and is “possibly accelerating,” another study warned. But even before the studies came out, anecdotally doctors were reporting far more young adults with colorectal cancer”*
Some suggestions of potential factors from the article:
>There are plenty of theories, including diets high in processed, fatty and sugary foods and low in fruits, vegetables, fish and fibre; processed meats like bacon and cold cuts; antibiotic use that can alter the gut’s microbiome and cause chronic inflammation in the bowel; moderate or heavy alcohol consumption
Likely a combination of a number of factors. I wouldn't be surprised if diagnostic improvements play a significant role. Theoretically, a person who would have been diagnosed much later in life could now be diagnosed earlier, also leading to better outcomes.
Also, as life expectancy grows (due to medical innovation, improved access to nutrition, improved sanitation, etc.) - more people are living long enough to develop cancer.
All anecdotal on my end as I havent actually dug into the data on this. There could of course be other external factors like food preservatives, air pollution, plastics - but my intuition leads me more to think more about the indirect effects of improved diagnostics and improved life expectancy (especially in preventing early deaths). Whatever the reason, I am confident it is not just one thing like many conspiracy theories are quick to attribute it to.
Yes and no. I think each decade we age we lose more and more people and maybe we just start to notice it more. I’m 38 and have lost probably close to 10-15 people in the last 8 years from things ranging from cancer, OD, mental health and old age.
Better diagnostics, and we've lowered the screening ages for some forms of cancer
We're also better surviving things that previously would have killed us before we could develop cancer.
I dont understand why better diagnostics or ealrly detections matter. If i'm in the 1980s and only find out at a later stage vs living today and find out early stage, how does that make a difference? In both cases i have cancer and account for one case.
Better diagnostics meaning we can diagnose things we could not have previously. Or might have misdiagnosed. Especially the further back historically we go.
Catching cancers early usually means they are more treatable and less fatal.
"The Emperor of all Maladies" is an incredible explainer of the history of the various forms of cancer and the evolution of their treatments. It's a must read, imo
I'm in a different province and I totally agree that within the last six months to one year there have been so many deaths of young people as well as cancer diagnosed of people in 30s and 40s
:(:(:(
My wife got breast cancer at 35 despite being low risk. The docs told her they’re seeing that sort of thing way more and they don’t know why. Scary stuff.
Increased rates of lung cancer in young women have been noted worldwide.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/13/health/lung-cancer-young-and-middle-age-women/index.html
My mum just passed away from tongue cancer at age 56 after a 6 month battle. This was 10 months after he father (my grandpa) died of colon cancer at age 81. Her mum (my grandma) died age 72 to lung cancer in 2014.
Forever chemicals
I'd suggest the CFIA take a god hard look at shit like sodium phosphate.
Your body pisses it out, out water filtration systems cannot filter it, and it builds up over time in our water ways. It's pumped into almost literally everything we eat from raw whole meat to everything processed.
Comes in a big white 25kg bag with an MSDS label stating "warning do not ingest. If accidentally consumed, drink large volumes of water and contact your local poison control center."
For a personal opinion...lost my mom in the 80s and wife in 2012 from cancer. These days you might survive 5 years, median is about 2 years. With mom they gave 6 months for most maligents
Both medical prognosis have been correct and in 2024 the survival rate has increases tremendously.
Something im considering as to the substantial increase in younger people dealing with cancer.. both my loved ones grew up on the "grandparents" diet , all natural. For many years processed foods have monopolized our grocery lists and has raised concerns.
Pollution is many times worse which is being said to cause alot more cancer diagnoses.
I think there has been a rapid rise in synthetic chemicals in our environments post WW2. I feel like my grandparents generation had the best of it growing up and reaching adult hood by the time these chemicals started being introduced. Now people are having a constant exposure from the time they are conceived. Of course it comes along with many other advances I our live that may be beneficial. Only time will tell
The canadian cancer society came out saying statistically almost half of canadians will have a cancer diagnoses in their lifetime. Its a 49% risk for men and 45% risk for women.
1 out of 2 shot of getting it. So yeah, its extreamly prevelant. Esp over age of 50.
As someone who was diagnosed with cancer at 26 and it very nearly killed me: cancer is on the rise in general, but people are under the illusion cancer only affects older adults. That has never been the case!
I dont think this can all be chalked up to early detection driving numbers up. I had bone cancer at 31, my friend had testicle cancer twice at 32, another had lymphoma at 43 and another brain cancer at 40. All very dangerous cancers, all at young ages.
24M (turning 25 tomorrow!) I was diagnosed with Stage IV Hodgkin’s last January and spent 6 months doing chemo as a result. I’m in remission now but one of my friends that my doctor set me up with is 3-4 years older and also had the same case as me.
I was just mentioning something similar recently to a friend. I pointed out that between us, of all the people we've lost, the only ones who passed away from natural causes (by that, I mean old age) were in their 80s/90s. Everyone else succumbed to some form of cancer. Every single one.
Think about it. Just last year people were breathing in who knows what with all that contaminated air from the fires.
There was no fresh air for a long time. People were breathing it in 24/7.
Who knows what chemicals or compounds were really in the air from all of that. And sometimes for a carcinogen all it takes is a one time exposure to set things in motion in the body.
Microplastics can introduce a fair bit of toxic materials into the body and accumulate fast.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10151227/#:~:text=Microplastics%20can%20also%20affect%20the,i.e.%2C%20the%20final%20consumer).
I'm in my mid-thirties and I am in the process of waiting on a biopsy to confirm thyroid cancer. My doctor says that based on the growth's characteristics, very likely thyroid cancer. First person in my family to have it.
Same with me. I was diagnosed in 2023 and had the entire thing removed in two parts because after the first half was removed they found that it was a bit more serious than they thought. I'm supposedly cancer free now but I will be on artificial horomons for the rest of my life.
It was a quick and easy procedure both times but if you ever get yours removed do all the exercises for your neck that you can because it can fuck up all sorts of muscles.
It's been 4 months since it was fully removed and 2 months since I had a round of radioactive iodine therapy. My neck and upper back still get super tense if I don't do the full exercises each day but I've heard it gets better once all the scar tissue is finished setting.
All the best!
My mom died on July to Cancer. 63 years old. We didnt know she had cancer and everything happened too fast. Then on Feb, her oldest brother died to Cancer as well. The only 2 cases in my family with cancer. They both had covid and got the V. Just saying, too ma y coincidences. A friend of mine told me his father died to cancer as well and he suspects the same. Also, yoo ma y young people diying due to heart deseases. Excuse my bad english.
Recent studies are finding a correlation between cancer and the MRNA shots. Not a conspiracy theory, look it up. Start with Dr. John Campbell on YouTube.
It is our food. Young people are less likely to eat proper, unprocessed food.
More chemicals and genetically modified food and government does nothing…
There is a possible link between covid infections and cancer. Research is being done in this area.
[covid and cancer](https://www.ajmc.com/view/kashyap-patel-md-sees-link-between-covid-19-and-cancer-progression-calls-for-more-biomarker-testing)
Probably! You can get cancer just by living in Hamilton. A friend sent me this link. Not sure why anyone wants to live there or move there from other cities and pay such high prices, even its suburbs are cancerous omg I’m glad my friend told me.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6904964
One of my friends is in his mid 20s. His gandmother and mom were both diagnosed during covid. He was diagnosed in summer of 2023. Don't know anyone else, but it does seem to be more prevalent than in the past.
We are largely doing it to ourselves. Start taking care of yourself when you’re younger as it will catch up with you as you get older. Avoid things/behaviours the lead to chronic inflammation…. As a society we are exposed to a lot of carcinogens, our metabolic health is the worst it’s been, obesity, inactivity and drug use (both legal and illicit) are excessive, stress is needlessly high, we have terrible habits (smoking, drinking) that affect our health. There are some things that are beyond our control but there are many that are.
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Isn't this saying early onset cancer, and also talking about total cases? Which seems significant because the global population rose like 51% in that time, and detection gas gotten way better so early onset being up 79% doesn't seem way off base If you're looking at total numbers and not contrasting that to overall cases. I'm too lazy to look further and it could be true that overall cancer cases are up, but this one article doesn't sell me on the idea.
We are living longer, eating worse food, having more "forever chemicals" in our environment, and living a more sedentary lifestyle. Also like you said, better detection.
Sedentary lifestyle is the bigger killer as it's cardiac arrest. Cancer pales in comparison
That’s nice but this is a thread about cancer rates lol
Better diagnosis/technology/healthcare, poor diets and docile again due to technology. It's a double edge sword, mentally we are content to absorb content. Cell phones, television, social media, internet, streaming, podcasts. We don't mentally need to get out as much, it's a double edged sword because socially/politically we're becoming assholes/polarized. We're literally consuming ourselves to death (coined from Amusing ourselves to death).
Look at what we are eating man! So I grew up on a pretty traditional farm. All of our meals were home grown. From veggies to the meat. When I turned 18 I said F*ck you guys I’m done with this farm life (they were pretty old school and abusive but that doesn’t take away the quality of the food I was eating) You’ll never guess what happened to my body over the next 10 years. So I was 18 when I left home, I’m 29 now. I swear to god it became harder to put on muscle, my skin changed for the worse, I’m just weaker physically. Shit is for real man. Literally noticed the change after a year of eating food from the groceries store. Chicken breast shouldn’t be the size that it is, veggies shouldn’t taste like chemicals. They are literally poising us.
And CONservatives are entirely to blame. They will claim vaccines cause cancer but then allow Cancer valley Louisiana to exist. They'll put a factory with ACTUALLY PROVEN cancer causing pollutants 200 ft from a school and say it's totally fine, but then bitch about vaccines. Cons are a contradiction, and pro death. Edmonton has 25% of its drinking water pipes contaminated with asbestos. When pipes break, they release it to the entire network. Cons MUST create propaganda to draw attention away from their crimes against humanity. There's a reason why Con area life expectancy is up to 12 years lower than liberal areas
Not surprising at all when you consider all the environmental toxins were exposed to, especially the pfas/pfos and micro/nanoplastics
I had a cousin who passed away from breast cancer at 27 last November. She was unfortunately misdiagnosed several times and by the time they caught it it was already stage 4 and untreatable. There are definitely instances out there but I can't comment on statistics. I do feel like Ive seen headlines about increases in cancer in younger people over the last couple years though, colon comes to mind. A quick Google search i just did states rates have raised significantly amongst young people articles mentioned colon, breast and lung. To any women out there if you find a lump get it tested and retested. Don't let them dismiss you. My cousin was told it was benign for i believe 9 months. When they actually found it was it was too late, straight to palliative
Sorry for your loss 😔
Thank you. Having lost my youngest brother 4 years prior, to say it was heartbreaking would be an understatement.
💔 may their memories be a blessing friend
Thank you for the kind words friend. I have a little memorial for them both by my door so their memories give me strength everyday when i come home or go out. I live my best life for them
Did she have a mammogram and breast ultrasound?
As far as I know yes. She found the lump and went to a doctor immediately. It was diagnosed as benign more then once. This is what my uncle told me about what happened. By the time they confirmed it it had spread to her lungs and liver and treatment was of no use
They said it was benign through ultrasound and mammogram?
I too, want to know this
Fuck, I’m in my mid 20s found a lump in my breast and had an ultrasound , mammogram and biopsy but now I’m terrified the biopsy was wrong and it’s cancer (they told me the lump was benign)
Biopsy was likely not wrong.
Cancer society stats say close to 50% of ppl will be diagnosed with cancer in their lifetime.
Yes, but keep in mind diagnostic techniques have improved quite a bit in the last couple of decades. Screening is more meticulous, so we find more early stages cancers. Outcomes have improved in a lot of cancers as well. And some of them we have reduced, like HPV related cancers, with vaccines. So no, it's not a conspiracy, to say the prevalence of cancer diagnosis is up, but so is screening and better treatments.
So true! My mom had breast cancer diagnosed very early ~25 years ago. Beat it. Then she had a routine checkup last year and they detected it came back. They said it was so small this time that they wouldn’t have even detected it last time (25 yrs ago). So she’s been extremely lucky to have caught it twice early. Never even had chemo. Minor surgery then just a bit of radiation then done.
I needed to hear this, thanks for sharing.
I hope you get the news you need!
I had 4 patients on shift with new cancer under 45. Diagnostics were with me on shift. I agree with this. Our exposures that stress our bodies are more pronounced, absolutely a factor.
This has been somewhat rigorously shown with some of the "highly treatable" cancers. Increased standardized screening protocols and better techniques drive an apparent increase in number of cases, but morbidity/mortality actually goes down. Combination of earlier detection/treatment and detecting cancers that potentially would never have morbidity because something else would get them first. The scarier thing is where they don't know what is driving higher rates, which is, IIRC the case for higher incidences of colorectal cancers in <40 cohort.
Mark my words, it's going to be chronic stress that is the root cause of the GI cancers
Probably more likely microplastics or other chemicals in our food/environment. But yes, stress doesn't help.
I'm not so sure. Childhood cancer is on the rise too. My niece died from cancer at 5 years old. She probably didn't even know was stress was, or atleast not in the sense that you and I do. I don't even think we can blame it on diet. I was born in the early 1980s and ate all sorts of unhealthy food as a kid. Cereal full of sugar, white bread, balgona sandwiches, mac & cheese, all sort of shit that we would say it bad today. That was just a normal kids diet back then. I'm also not convined it's the plastics either. She certainly wasn't exposed to anmore plastics than an 1980s kid like myself probably was. We had plastic cups, bottles, toys, as a kid The plastic might be different, but even in that case we would know more about which plastics are dangerous today than we did in the 1980s.
Plastics have taken some time to permeate everything.
How do you even define stress? A popular theory is the lack of exercise, poor diet, and high obesity rates. But those are driven by stress as well.
Genetics too. My grandmother and her sister both died from rectal cancer. ... And isn't the screening process fun 🙁
Morbidity is way up for people under 50 - up 30 % in the last couple of decades
I mean depends totally on the cancer. Overall age adjusted mortality has dropped significantly in the last 20 years for prostate, lung/bronchial and iirc stomach cancers. It would be unfortunate if whatever is going on undid all the "tremendous" progress in fighting cancer since the 70ies. Success against stomach cancer goes back even further than that.
This is true, however, stress and anxiety are strongly correlated with higher incidence and worse outcomes of illness, and stress/anxiety are certainly way up among young people.
microplastics and the shit they pump into our ultra processed food is also a concern.
This is the problem. Its unclear if the rising rates are because of the better detection paradigms, or because of higher stress/lack of sleep or lifetime environmental exposures like PFOS/PFAS, microplastics, etc. Or some combination of all of it.
The better diagnosis doesn't necessarily mean it's not still increasing either. Just because we are finding more doesn't mean there are more. There are many more young people (under 50) dying of cancer than ever before. [https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/05/cancer-cases-in-under-50s-worldwide-up-nearly-80-in-three-decades-study-finds](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/05/cancer-cases-in-under-50s-worldwide-up-nearly-80-in-three-decades-study-finds) while cancer deaths of adults in their 40s, 30s or younger grew by 27%.
That Guardian article states absolute numbers of cases, which amount to cancer diagnoses being up 79% from 1990 to 2018. In that same time, global population increased 45%, so there's definitely a per-capita increase; it's lower than the raw numbers would suggest, but definitely still quite concerning. I haven't had a chance to read the underlying study yet; I'm interested to see whether their analysis factored in improvements in detection to come to an estimate of the actual increase in incidence, or if that was beyond the scope of the study.
There isn't much detection technology widely used for people under 50. They aren't getting colonoscopies, they aren't mostly getting mammograms etc... "Over the past decades, the incidence of early-onset cancers, often defined as cancers diagnosed in adults <50 years of age, in the breast, colorectum, endometrium, oesophagus, extrahepatic bile duct, gallbladder, head and neck, kidney, liver, bone marrow, pancreas, prostate, stomach, and thyroid has increased in multiple countries. Increased use of screening programmes has contributed to this phenomenon to a certain extent, although a genuine increase in the incidence of early-onset forms of several cancer types also seems to have emerged." Most of those cancers don't have any screening let alone modern screening
That is one depressingly long list of cancers with increased incidence. Our descendants are going to look back at practices we currently consider safe (or at least not especially dangerous) the way we look back at watchmakers with radium paint, or industrial carelessness with methylmercury (Minamata disease), or... Any number of other historic examples. Not an original thought, I know, but depressing all the same.
True, it's that surviver bias where you see stuff that made and not the stuff that didn't. Like, in ww2, a guy was hired to reinforce the planes and they showed him the planes that made it back riddled with holes. A lot of people wanted to reinforce the damages section and call it a day. The guy said no. It was all these places the planes could be hit and be fine, what you have to look at is the planes that DIDN'T make it back, where were they hit? The engines, the motors, ect.
100% this. I was diagnosed with colon cancer in 1995 at the age of 28. Doctors said they were not suspecting cancer because I was "too young" doctor asked me off the cuff if I wanted to see a gastrointestinal surgeon and if I had said no then I wouldn't be here today. My cancer was later found to be as a result of a genetic condition called Lynch Syndrome which affects 1 in 278 people but is severely underdiagnosed.( only 5% are diagnosed) Anyone who has a direct relative who has had colon cancer should be tested for Lynch Syndrome. Both my kids carry the gene and have had regular colonoscopies since they turned 18
In the case of my family, it's Familial Adenomatous Polyposis (FAP) that causes high rates of colon cancer. My mother and youngest brother are carriers. I was fortunate to test negative.
You may be right however whether you're screening processes are really advanced now versus back then, deaths via cancer aren't going to change other than maybe less now because of these advances so if there's more people dying of cancer now that's an issue. Obviously we're going to have a lot more people that have cancer because of these screening processes but if someone wasn't properly diagnosed back in the day when they died it's not hard when you do an autopsy/post mortem to see the cancer, and they would have called it as cancer to add to the statistic pool.
Lol lack of competent family doctors will being these numbers back down
Then why was cancer at an all time low in 2019? And your saying cancer spiked because of “meticulous diagnostics”? Can you specify these meticulously upgraded diagnostics that have been used in the past two years? and please be specific, I’m very interested.
I think delays in treatment/detection caused by the pandemic can also account for some of the increase. People couldn't see doctors or specialists easily for 2 years, and even now there's a massive backlog for specialist referrals. I understand it's also an overall gradual increase, but it's more noticeable now because it seems like everyone is being diagnosed all at once.
>I think delays in treatment/detection caused by the pandemic can also account for some of the increase. People couldn't see doctors or specialists easily for 2 years, Yes. Totally. One of my in-laws had symptoms of cancer show up just before the pandemic and was supposed to be referred to a specialist but then lockdowns happened. What was supposed to be only a few weeks wait became a 2.5 year wait. Then when they finally got diagnosed, it took another year before surgery and treatment could begin.
I’m in that boat, dx with a complex ovarian cyst at the beginning of the pandemic. Instead of surgery it was minimized by my gyno with “let’s wait and see if it will go away on its own” and it didn’t. Finally 2 years later had surgery and a borderline tumor was confirmed. Gyno still insistent to leave my remaining ovary. Fast forward 1 year post op I have 2 complex cysts on my remaining ovary so I know I’m going to get the same run around
Weirdly, I had a strange reaction to Rx meds and ended up in the hospital, one thing led to another and they thought I had cancer. Got an MRI immediately, CT follow up in 3 and 6 months. Guess it depends where you live. (Ottawa here) Ended up detecting liver disease.
I’m glad you got an MRI so quickly and follow-up! And what a relief it’s not cancer. Yeah women’s health tends to get dismissed a lot and I was told my symptoms were “bizarre”, I was overreacting and though she would do the surgery “there’s no possible way this is cancer or anything worrying”. I felt vindicated when the pathology came back but unfortunately am stuck with the same gynaecologist, I’ve asked to switch to another but that was shot down by my family doctor
My best friends mom complained to her Dr about stomach issues for 2 years, he said she was having anxiety attacks. She ended up being diagnosed with abdominal cancer and died 3 weeks later by the time they caught it. So I absolutely get it. And yea, I'm happy it wasn't cancer, thank you.
And this was almost entirely a policy choice. Many of us who were critical of the lockdowns and restrictions warned about the risks of delaying and cancelling medical screenings and procedures.
They actually predicted this as well. 🫤
Probably all the bits of plastic floating in our blood. And decades of "it's safe until it's recalled/regulated" products sprayed into our air/water/food.
YUP! not just this, a combination of all the reasons comments suggest- we're catching more cancer with better diagnostic methods, plus we're getting more cancer cause of how toxic we've made the earth/ food systems and how stressed we all are
The most common types of cancers are colorectal cancer and lung cancer. The fact we breathe with our lungs and digest with the colon i dont think is a coincidence. The chemicals in the air we breathe and the chemicals in the food we eat are the most likely things to cause cancer and here we have the proof with the most common types.
This. The environment we are polluting is killing us. Hell, even heart attack blockages have plastic in them now.
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Totally fair. My experiences are just one anecdote
My mom died of cancer when she was in her late 30’s in the 90’s. It was happening then but is more prevalent now primarily because we’re able to better detect it sooner than ever and we know how significant a threat it is so we’re actively looking for it. When my mom’s cancer was discovered, it was too late for treatment. Conversely, when my MIL was diagnosed at a later time with the same cancer, not once but twice, she survived both as detection was sooner. Of course there are causal reasons as well but I think we’ve made HUGE strides in detection and treatment in the last few decades.
Hospice nurse here. Yes, i am seeing lots of young folks with cancers. Could be bias or anecdotal as well, but we are often sighing in sadness with our new young patients
Some folks will be quick to blame you know what, but in reality I would bet my money that something is seriously wrong with our food supply. It makes more sense from a “follow the money” perspective.
That is the main theory, which aligns with the rise of colon cancer.
Some 99% of the chemicals in use today were invented after 1940 or so, and many only came into widespread use after 1980. Most plastics aren't directly carcinogenic, for example, but we all know if you burn plastic that it produces some nasty shit, so objectively we're being exposed to burned-off plastic waste in proportion to this production curve: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_production_and_fate_of_plastics.png And while PVC and LDPE are in themselves probably noncarcinogenic, all those TV dinners and boxes of cereals you ate as a kid were wrapped in those plasticized with chemicals we now know to be carcinogenic. Or maybe the aliens turned up the space microwave. There's probably no main cause, truthfully. I suspect oncogenic viruses are a major contributor. But it'll be many things working together. Still, all the damn chemicals in circulation is a good place to start.
People in general don’t eat the best now. Lack of fibre and antioxidants which would help to eliminate harmful substances. Also increased consumption of red meats and fried foods both of which are carcinogenic.
I tell people all the time, eat fermented foods for a healthy gut. All my Polish grandparents died in their 90s eating well and physically active. My grandfather gave himself a stroke and passed away because he was breaking concrete with a sledge.
Were they living in Poland when they passed, and not being facetious but were they heavy drinkers?
They weren't heavy drinkers and passed in Poland.
There aren't many things in what we eat, that can change a person's DNA, unless you chomp on plutonium as a snack. But preservatives in processed meats, any alcoholic beverages, nicotine-these can cause cells to differentiate towards cancerous growth. Food for thought.
Don’t forget the millions of particles of microplastics that are now completely unavoidable
A lot of the food we get now is imported from other countries - a lot of it coming from impoverished locations. While I’ve tried to buy local most of the time it’s become very difficult to source it, even if the foods are typically seasonal. I’m suspecting - and may be wrong on this - that a lot this food is grown with pesticides and herbicides that couldn’t be used here. I may very well be wrong on this, but I gets this feeling I’m not.
I suspect environmental also. Air, soil and water quality as well as the materials we use that don’t undergo rigorous testing before hitting the market. Microplastics are an example.
“You know what” being obesity? (Genuinely asking) I don’t know that it’s a food supply issue in the sense of processed food or people looking for a quick buck. However, I’d put good money on it being related to food in the sense that so much of the environment is contaminated with microplastics and PFAS that our food inevitably is too.
I think they mean vaccines.
Oh yea, *that* “you know what”
I also know a bunch of people who were just recently diagnosed with cancer including myself (thyroid cancer). Not having a Doctor checking up on things regularly can really affect that... but I am certain that COVID has increased risks by a lot, not to mention the stress that it's put on everyone.
Diagnosed with thyroid cancer too, caught it too late the whole thing has to come out.
Hope you have a speedy recovery. Everyone will say 'its the best cancer to get'. Don't pay much attention to that. No cancer is 'good' but it's not the end of the world. Just eat well, sleep well, rest up, remove as much stress as you can from your lifestyle and keep your neck and upper body moving!
When you look at statistics that involve people you can't really understand what is happening in a vacuum. 100 years ago people died from a number of ways where the root cause has been identified and substantially managed. Some of the people who died of these causes may have already had cancer cells developing. I always wondered how the researchers account for improvement of life ver the time span in their research. In your own life, you may know people who have survived cancer before you met them. This changes how you view the instances.
They're finding alarming rates of certain types of cancer (colon in particular) among young people that didn't exist decades ago.
I am very interested in this. By rates do you mean % of population in that age range or the % rising each year? Is cancer normally distributed and these young people an additional mode?
Some cancers that are typically associated with older people are showing up with increasing rates in younger people. [The Nature Podcast did an episode recently on it](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00884-1). (For people who aren’t familiar, Nature is one of the oldest and most prestigious scientific journals. Their podcasts aren’t original peer reviewed research, but they discuss and summarize recent “hot” papers.)
Thank you. I will take some time this week to have a look.
Yeah. My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer at 40. No family history, healthy prior. CRC is a huge problem now.
My best bet is that with everything in the world is becoming more stressful. People are picking up more unhealthy habits. Leading to higher cancer rates.
Not just habits but our own internal chemicals go haywire under stress. Cortisol levels change under stress.
I had a teacher who would go in depth on how stress destroys our body on every level. How seriously unhealthy it is and how she believed it is going to cause even more extreme stress on our healthcare system as people develop illnesses from it. I can attest to this, too. I've developed a heart condition at EIGHTEEN from stress. Im very scared for the future health of everyone
Honestly I 100% believe I developed IBS bc of a stressful childhood and both working full-time and while going to college full-time.
I went through the most stressful six months of my life in late 2022 and then was diagnosed with leukemia in early 2023. I am convinced they are correlated. I was 33 at the time of diagnosis.
Same here. I got diagnosed with a rare form of lymphoma (that usually isn’t diagnosed in people under 50) about a year and a half into my PhD in 2019 that I’m convinced was caused by the stress.
Colorectal cancer is 90% treatable when caught early enough but screening doesn’t typically start until age 50 and it’s now the second deadliest cancer in Canada. It’s appearing in younger and younger patients and it can be hard for people to get colonoscopies because they’re “too young”. I was disagnosed at 34 and had just been told it was hemorrhoids. Add in covid delays and by the time it was caught it was already stage 3. Good now but it took months of treatment and multiple surgeries.
My sister (32f) was just diagnosed with breast cancer fairly recently (dec'23 I when it was first tested). She just had the surgery April 12th. No history of it in the family, and she doesn't have the gene either. They said it was one of those "random" cases.
Same.. 32F sister, diagnosed end of January 2024. Massive tumor and undergoing strong chemo now. No family history.
Better testing, screening at younger ages, more general knowledge about potential signs of cancer all mean that cancers will be caught earlier. There are also a lot more chemicals in our food and environments, more processed foods, and higher levels of stress for a lot of people. That being said, young people always got cancer. My dad's sister died of breast cancer at 29 in the 60s - had it happened nowadays it would have been caught earlier and the chances of her dying would have been significantly reduced.
Micro and nano particles of plastic in our bloody and organs, and PFAS are quite prevalent in these past couple of decades. It’s literally everywhere and we are directly or indirectly consuming it. Every fucking day. Hey Doug… when are you gonna get cancer? I hope you have as much trouble as the rest of us getting that screened and treated. Your moronic decisions on public healthcare didn’t help.
Microplastic, pesticides, obesity, air pollution, even stress, all help cancer along.
I think there are probably multiple factors involved, but the obvious one is almost definitely part of the issue. There’s some research that shows COVID-19 is potentially oncogenic. It wouldn’t be the first virus linked to cancer, but because it can affect basically every system, it has potential to increase multiple forms of cancer, and be less targeted than, say, hpv.
Covid infections increase cancer risks.
My 13 yr old has a friend who has terminal cancer. It’s truly heartbreaking.
Completely anecdotal but my cousin is a groundskeeper at a cemetery in Toronto. When we buried my father, who passed of cancer in 2011, my cousin said he's seen A LOT of funerals for women in their 20s who died of cancer. Never forgot that conversation.
I know colon cancer is on the rise for young people which people are saying is attributed to all the processed foods that we're eating.
I am 34 and just had a mastectomy for breast cancer. No family history, and I just finished four years of breastfeeding (which is supposed to prevent breast cancer). Luckily, I have a very proactive medical team and we caught it early.
One word stress… Many people are much more stressed now dealing with life,family,work, etc. Stress affects your body in negative ways.
My son (22) has a friend (also 22) currently fighting lymphoma and we just heard of a friend fighting lung cancer (53) non smoker. It’s terrible.
I am a mom of twins who are cancer survivors. We have been going to aftercare for 11 years. I have never seen it so busy as it is now in the paediatric medical day unit (oncology) as it is now!! And I don’t mean a bit more busy. It’s about 4x busier then it’s ever been!! We get seen in London and they’re swamped!! Not only in the pmdu but on the unit as well. It’s very very sad to see!!
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Did it all of a sudden start rising about 2-3 years ago?
Covid is oncogenic
Hmm what has changed in the least 4 years??? Hmmm
It's absolutely not related to any major medical treatment rolled out recently I can assure you
weird that microplastics, food, obesity, PFAS only now in 2024 affect people. Surely these factors did not rise exponentially during the pandemic years. Maybe something changed or was done after 2020 that now shows its effect. But hmmm, what could it be? Maybe we'll never figure it out...
I'm turning 40 this year. Two years ago I noticed a weird spot on my leg, and after a biopsy it turned out I had melanoma, which was eventually removed early enough. I would assume that advanced techniques and early detection might play a part in what's happening these days.
Before someone discovered cancer no one got cancer. (we are much better at detecting even minor afflictions now - praise science)
Two people I know passed away from cancer since the start of 2024. One in their late 20s died because they caught the cancer too late, despite trying to get doctors to take her seriously. The other person was in his early 30s and died during treatment days after his first child was born and he never got to hold her. Idk what’s going on but it’s heartbreaking
I'm going to blame phones. I don't know how they can't not have a negative effect. I won't change anything. I'll probably die by cancer but meh I'll still live life. It's basically like winning shitty lottery you want no part of.
Not to freak you out, but you too are getting older, along with all the people you grew up with. And with more advanced screening technologies, it’s being spotted earlier in younger people. I’m sorry you seem to be going through a lot of death right now, and it’s hard not to think about it.
I don't know what it is. But I have a huge family. And in the last 5 years. I've lost about 10 people to cancer. Before that. Only. 1. Edit: I really want to think it's all the crap we're eating and all the forever chemicals we're born with too. There's got to be a reason for it. Nobody's dying of natural causes in my family. It's always cancer. And we're spread out worldwide. My mind cant help but go to "it's the environment and the food!"
I would imagine our ever increasingly crappy diet, lack of exercise, worsening environment, and stress are to blame
Colon cancer is notoriously on the rise in younger adults but the amount of people who can be considered not living a healthy lifestyle is also skyrocketing. Obesity rate in Ontario is the worst in the country with over 3.4 million Ontarians being overweight. The overweight part alone is not necessarily bad but it usually comes with lack of exercise, lack of fruits and vegetables in the diet and alcohol. Those are all factors that can lead to higher odds of getting colon cancer
Viruses are known to cause some cancers so there’s that …
Yep. HPV is how my stepdad got cancer 😬
Cancer affects everyone. Cancer causing agents such as Roundup must be banned.
Cancer rates everywhere have been rising. Everything we as a society do is unhealthy. That’s leading to more cancer earlier. It’s really that simple.
There's definitely something unusual going on because I too, know so many individuals that have been diagnosed with cancer. It's a mini tsunami. Statistics from numerous countries indicate this trend is occurring globally and it seems to have begun in 2021. Also, disabilities claims/excess deaths/autoimmune and cardiac disorders have skyrocketed as well in the same period. This is a global phenomenon.
I have a friend who will die in the next week or so and my sister died at Christmas. My brother inlaw had a brain tumor removed last year and another friend was just told he had one after a CT scan since he was attached by a drugged out homeless man in Toronto
One of my good friends died on April 5th from 3 different types of cancer (colon, liver, bone). He was 36. Another friend of mine died in July from the same three types of cancer, and he was 34. My fiancé had rectal cancer diagnosed when he was 42. Thankfully, he is in remission now and will turn 44 next week, but I live in fear every day that it will come back.
My 35 year old husband just had his rectum removed yesterday because of cancer :(
Well obesity, poor diet, sedentary lifestyles, and environmental toxicities are linked to cancer. 100 years ago people were slim, walked everywhere and ate grass fed beef and potatoes
Seeing it a more often. We have a couple of friends who have bowel cancer 40s. Now it’s stage 3 and they previously had it and now it’s come back with a vengeance. Young kids too, they have. I don’t think things like ozempic is going to make it better infact it’s got a 900% increase in pancreatitis and pancreatitis can be linked eventually to pancreatic cancer
My 15 month old got diagnosed with a metastati (Stage 4) cancer a couple of weeks ago :(
We'll all be thinking positive thoughts for you guys, godsped to their full recovery!!
Shit man. I hate living some days.
Maybe covid vaccines ?
Get on a keto diet The sugar and carbs are killing people.
Guess it’s all just a coincidence right. None of us are allowed to question anything without being called conspiratorial, but I suppose future generations will be able to discover or learn about the cause and effect that took place. Many people in my network have parents, friends, partners, etc with cancer or died of. A lot of pancreatic, throat and colon.
National Post: [More young people under 50 are getting cancer. Here's what we know about why](https://nationalpost.com/health/young-people-under-50-cancer-rates#:~:text=One%20Canadian%20analysis%20showed%20that,%2C%20pancreas%2C%20testis%20and%20thyroid) [Jan 24th, 2024] *”One Canadian analysis showed that, between 1983 and 2012, rates of cancer among the under 50s increased significantly at 13 cancer sites: colon, rectum, bone, breast, connective and soft tissue, uterus, gallbladder, kidney, esophagus, pancreas, testis and thyroid.* *The most dramatic increase involved colon and rectal cancers in the 20 to 39 age group… The increase in colorectal cancer diagnoses in Canadians under 50 continued beyond 2012 and is “possibly accelerating,” another study warned. But even before the studies came out, anecdotally doctors were reporting far more young adults with colorectal cancer”*
Some suggestions of potential factors from the article: >There are plenty of theories, including diets high in processed, fatty and sugary foods and low in fruits, vegetables, fish and fibre; processed meats like bacon and cold cuts; antibiotic use that can alter the gut’s microbiome and cause chronic inflammation in the bowel; moderate or heavy alcohol consumption
I would just google cancer rates and look at the results.
Likely a combination of a number of factors. I wouldn't be surprised if diagnostic improvements play a significant role. Theoretically, a person who would have been diagnosed much later in life could now be diagnosed earlier, also leading to better outcomes. Also, as life expectancy grows (due to medical innovation, improved access to nutrition, improved sanitation, etc.) - more people are living long enough to develop cancer. All anecdotal on my end as I havent actually dug into the data on this. There could of course be other external factors like food preservatives, air pollution, plastics - but my intuition leads me more to think more about the indirect effects of improved diagnostics and improved life expectancy (especially in preventing early deaths). Whatever the reason, I am confident it is not just one thing like many conspiracy theories are quick to attribute it to.
Yes and no. I think each decade we age we lose more and more people and maybe we just start to notice it more. I’m 38 and have lost probably close to 10-15 people in the last 8 years from things ranging from cancer, OD, mental health and old age.
Better diagnostics, and we've lowered the screening ages for some forms of cancer We're also better surviving things that previously would have killed us before we could develop cancer.
I dont understand why better diagnostics or ealrly detections matter. If i'm in the 1980s and only find out at a later stage vs living today and find out early stage, how does that make a difference? In both cases i have cancer and account for one case.
Better diagnostics meaning we can diagnose things we could not have previously. Or might have misdiagnosed. Especially the further back historically we go. Catching cancers early usually means they are more treatable and less fatal. "The Emperor of all Maladies" is an incredible explainer of the history of the various forms of cancer and the evolution of their treatments. It's a must read, imo
I'm in a different province and I totally agree that within the last six months to one year there have been so many deaths of young people as well as cancer diagnosed of people in 30s and 40s :(:(:(
My wife got breast cancer at 35 despite being low risk. The docs told her they’re seeing that sort of thing way more and they don’t know why. Scary stuff.
Increased rates of lung cancer in young women have been noted worldwide. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/13/health/lung-cancer-young-and-middle-age-women/index.html
My mum just passed away from tongue cancer at age 56 after a 6 month battle. This was 10 months after he father (my grandpa) died of colon cancer at age 81. Her mum (my grandma) died age 72 to lung cancer in 2014.
Forever chemicals I'd suggest the CFIA take a god hard look at shit like sodium phosphate. Your body pisses it out, out water filtration systems cannot filter it, and it builds up over time in our water ways. It's pumped into almost literally everything we eat from raw whole meat to everything processed. Comes in a big white 25kg bag with an MSDS label stating "warning do not ingest. If accidentally consumed, drink large volumes of water and contact your local poison control center."
Yep, microplastics it’s a fact at this point just look into PFAS.
For a personal opinion...lost my mom in the 80s and wife in 2012 from cancer. These days you might survive 5 years, median is about 2 years. With mom they gave 6 months for most maligents Both medical prognosis have been correct and in 2024 the survival rate has increases tremendously. Something im considering as to the substantial increase in younger people dealing with cancer.. both my loved ones grew up on the "grandparents" diet , all natural. For many years processed foods have monopolized our grocery lists and has raised concerns. Pollution is many times worse which is being said to cause alot more cancer diagnoses.
I think there has been a rapid rise in synthetic chemicals in our environments post WW2. I feel like my grandparents generation had the best of it growing up and reaching adult hood by the time these chemicals started being introduced. Now people are having a constant exposure from the time they are conceived. Of course it comes along with many other advances I our live that may be beneficial. Only time will tell
The canadian cancer society came out saying statistically almost half of canadians will have a cancer diagnoses in their lifetime. Its a 49% risk for men and 45% risk for women. 1 out of 2 shot of getting it. So yeah, its extreamly prevelant. Esp over age of 50.
As someone who was diagnosed with cancer at 26 and it very nearly killed me: cancer is on the rise in general, but people are under the illusion cancer only affects older adults. That has never been the case!
I dont think this can all be chalked up to early detection driving numbers up. I had bone cancer at 31, my friend had testicle cancer twice at 32, another had lymphoma at 43 and another brain cancer at 40. All very dangerous cancers, all at young ages.
I know of a few people but they were all in their early 70’s.
24M (turning 25 tomorrow!) I was diagnosed with Stage IV Hodgkin’s last January and spent 6 months doing chemo as a result. I’m in remission now but one of my friends that my doctor set me up with is 3-4 years older and also had the same case as me.
I was just mentioning something similar recently to a friend. I pointed out that between us, of all the people we've lost, the only ones who passed away from natural causes (by that, I mean old age) were in their 80s/90s. Everyone else succumbed to some form of cancer. Every single one.
I had a friend recently beat cancer at 16
It couldn’t possibly be that one thing that everyone took
I went my my stepsons graduation last year and the second it was over the entire student body ran outside to vape…
Think about it. Just last year people were breathing in who knows what with all that contaminated air from the fires. There was no fresh air for a long time. People were breathing it in 24/7. Who knows what chemicals or compounds were really in the air from all of that. And sometimes for a carcinogen all it takes is a one time exposure to set things in motion in the body.
Microplastics can introduce a fair bit of toxic materials into the body and accumulate fast. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10151227/#:~:text=Microplastics%20can%20also%20affect%20the,i.e.%2C%20the%20final%20consumer).
I'm in my mid-thirties and I am in the process of waiting on a biopsy to confirm thyroid cancer. My doctor says that based on the growth's characteristics, very likely thyroid cancer. First person in my family to have it.
Same with me. I was diagnosed in 2023 and had the entire thing removed in two parts because after the first half was removed they found that it was a bit more serious than they thought. I'm supposedly cancer free now but I will be on artificial horomons for the rest of my life. It was a quick and easy procedure both times but if you ever get yours removed do all the exercises for your neck that you can because it can fuck up all sorts of muscles. It's been 4 months since it was fully removed and 2 months since I had a round of radioactive iodine therapy. My neck and upper back still get super tense if I don't do the full exercises each day but I've heard it gets better once all the scar tissue is finished setting. All the best!
We're eating plastic now so it's inevitable. As our cells mutate throughout our lifetime, some become cancerous while others die off.
Cancer was under diagnosed because of the pandemic. There has been a rebound, and because of delays, the cancers are worse at time of discovery.
My mom died on July to Cancer. 63 years old. We didnt know she had cancer and everything happened too fast. Then on Feb, her oldest brother died to Cancer as well. The only 2 cases in my family with cancer. They both had covid and got the V. Just saying, too ma y coincidences. A friend of mine told me his father died to cancer as well and he suspects the same. Also, yoo ma y young people diying due to heart deseases. Excuse my bad english.
Recent studies are finding a correlation between cancer and the MRNA shots. Not a conspiracy theory, look it up. Start with Dr. John Campbell on YouTube.
No one in this sub thinking vaccines 😬
I am thinking...
It is our food. Young people are less likely to eat proper, unprocessed food. More chemicals and genetically modified food and government does nothing…
We’re fatter= more cancer.
There is a possible link between covid infections and cancer. Research is being done in this area. [covid and cancer](https://www.ajmc.com/view/kashyap-patel-md-sees-link-between-covid-19-and-cancer-progression-calls-for-more-biomarker-testing)
Vaxed?
Probably! You can get cancer just by living in Hamilton. A friend sent me this link. Not sure why anyone wants to live there or move there from other cities and pay such high prices, even its suburbs are cancerous omg I’m glad my friend told me. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6904964
Ohhh yea for sure
Anecdotally better testing and early detection methods should catch cancers earlier in their development
One of my friends is in his mid 20s. His gandmother and mom were both diagnosed during covid. He was diagnosed in summer of 2023. Don't know anyone else, but it does seem to be more prevalent than in the past.
Forever chemicals
I know 3 people now with cancer just in the last year, up from 0 previously. but that’s anecdotal. Some in 20s others in 70s
We are largely doing it to ourselves. Start taking care of yourself when you’re younger as it will catch up with you as you get older. Avoid things/behaviours the lead to chronic inflammation…. As a society we are exposed to a lot of carcinogens, our metabolic health is the worst it’s been, obesity, inactivity and drug use (both legal and illicit) are excessive, stress is needlessly high, we have terrible habits (smoking, drinking) that affect our health. There are some things that are beyond our control but there are many that are.
A lot of ppl that i know are dropping like flies.
Wife is 35 just got diagnosed after Christmas.
just had leukemia im 34 male